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					<description><![CDATA[Jess Weiner, the Cultural Expert and Founder and CEO of Talk to Jess, joins the Wild Business Growth podcast to share her journey from playwright to advising the world’s leading brands on the issues facing women and girls today.]]></description>
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<p>How do you decide if a risk is worth taking as a brand? That&#8217;s the story of this week&#8217;s <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth</em></a> podcast guest, Jess Weiner. Jess is the Cultural Expert and Founder and CEO of Talk to Jess. Listen to the episode on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wild-business-growth-podcast/id1422144338?mt=2" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6mSUsqYobBljhKIuK9sKJV" target="_blank">Spotify</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPJ7ovuCpHVg7SJchnF2BZg" target="_blank">YouTube</a>, and your other favorite <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">podcast platforms</a>.</p>



<ul><li><a href="#episode-summary">Episode Summary &amp; Player</a></li><li><a href="#full-transcript">Full Transcript</a></li><li><a href="#show-notes">Show Notes</a></li><li><a href="#podcast-summary"><em>Wild Business Growth </em>podcast Summary</a></li></ul>



<h2 id="episode-summary">Episode 304: Jess Weiner – Cultural Expert for Brands, Talk to Jess Founder</h2>



<p>Jess Weiner, the Cultural Expert and Founder and CEO of Talk to Jess, joins the show to share her journey from playwright to advising the world’s leading brands on the issues facing women and girls today. Hear the story behind the Dove Campaign for Real Beauty and the rebrand of Barbie, how to establish yourself as an expert, how to get your first big client, how to decide if a risk is worth taking as a brand, and what happened when Jess missed that ferry in Crete. This episode covers everything from culture to the Greek Islands. Here&#8217;s a small sample of what you will hear in this episode:</p>



<ul><li>When did Jess realize the Dove Campaign for Real Beauty would be so impactful</li><li>What was the reaction from friends &amp; family when she picked majors that wouldn&#8217;t make money</li><li>IUPUI (said &#8220;Oo-E-Poo-E&#8221;)</li><li>How did Jess revamp the Barbie brand</li><li>What are some brand guardrails for culture</li><li>How do you stay in the know with pop culture</li><li><em>Hamilton</em></li><li>How often does Jess&#8217;s last name get made fun of</li></ul>



<p>Connect with Jess on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessweiner/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a>, on Instagram <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/imjessweiner/?hl=en" target="_blank">@ImJessWeiner</a>, and at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.jessweiner.com/" target="_blank">JessWeiner.com</a>.</p>



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<p>Enjoy the shoooooow! Check out the show notes below for much more detail. You can also find the full transcript <a href="https://maxpodcasting.com/jess-weiner-transcript/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">here</a>.</p>



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<h2 id="show-notes"><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2>



<ul><li><strong>Intro &amp; Dove Campaign for Real Beauty</strong><ul><li>[0:30] Email me at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="mailto:m&#97;x&#64;hi&#112;p&#111;d&#105;&#114;&#101;c&#116;.c&#111;m" target="_blank">&#109;a&#120;&#64;&#109;&#97;xp&#111;dca&#115;&#116;&#105;&#110;g.com</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool</li></ul><ul><li>[0:39] Connect with Jess on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessweiner/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a>, on Instagram <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/imjessweiner/?hl=en" target="_blank">@ImJessWeiner</a>, and at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.jessweiner.com/" target="_blank">JessWeiner.com</a></li><li>[1:41] Come on, Max </li><li>[3:00] What&#8217;s the story behind the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.dove.com/us/en/stories/campaigns.html" target="_blank">Dove Campaign for Real Beauty</a></li><li>[4:25] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://sproutsocial.com/glossary/influencer/" target="_blank">Influencer</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">Entrepreneur</a></li><li>[5:54] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.dove.com/us/en/home.html" target="_blank">Dove</a></li><li>[6:05] Wow</li><li>[6:07] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/cpg.asp" target="_blank">CPG</a> (Consumer Packaged Goods)</li><li>[6:18] How did Jess get involved with the Dove Campaign for Real Beauty</li><li>[7:01] When did she realize the Dove Campaign for Real Beauty would be so impactful</li><li>[7:31] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://adage.com/article/marketing-news-strategy/doves-campaign-real-beauty-how-its-20-years-changed-marketing/2552441" target="_blank">Times Square</a></li></ul></li></ul>



<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-large is-resized"><img loading="lazy" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/SquadShot-Jess-Weiner-1024x538.png" alt="SquadShot Jess Weiner" class="wp-image-9543" width="716" height="376" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/SquadShot-Jess-Weiner-1024x538.png 1024w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/SquadShot-Jess-Weiner-400x210.png 400w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/SquadShot-Jess-Weiner-768x403.png 768w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/SquadShot-Jess-Weiner-500x263.png 500w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/SquadShot-Jess-Weiner-400x210@2x.png 800w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/SquadShot-Jess-Weiner.png 1200w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/SquadShot-Jess-Weiner-500x263@2x.png 1000w" sizes="(max-width: 716px) 100vw, 716px" /><figcaption>Who&#8217;s that girl?! It&#8217;s Jess!</figcaption></figure></div>



<ul><li><strong>The Talk to Jess Story</strong><ul><li>[9:54] Is it <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.reddit.com/r/EnglishLearning/comments/p1fx64/as_an_american_how_common_is_it_to_say_nitch/" target="_blank">niche or niche</a></li><li>[10:14] How did Jess carve her path</li><li>[12:04] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.britannica.com/technology/Internet" target="_blank">Internet</a></li><li>[12:40] What was the reaction from friends &amp; family when Jess picked majors that wouldn&#8217;t make money</li><li>[13:03] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/cfo.asp" target="_blank">CFO</a> (Chief Financial Officer)</li><li>[14:48] Ingredients</li><li>[15:22] How do you establish yourself as an expert</li><li>[16:08] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/w/word-of-mouth-marketing.asp" target="_blank">WOM</a> (Word-of-Mouth Marketing), <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.gartner.com/en/information-technology/glossary/request-proposal-rfp" target="_blank">RFP</a> (Request For Proposal)</li><li>[17:10] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.jessweiner.com/consulting" target="_blank">Talk to Jess</a></li><li>[17:24] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://scandal.fandom.com/wiki/Olivia_Pope" target="_blank">Olivia Pope</a></li><li>[18:00] How do you get your first big client</li><li>[18:12] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.claudemcnealproductions.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Corporate-ACT-Out-Brochure.pdf" target="_blank">The ACT Out Ensemble</a></li><li>[18:42] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.lilly.com/" target="_blank">Eli Lilly</a> (Lilly)</li><li>[20:01] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://fortune.com/ranking/best-companies/" target="_blank"><em>Fortune</em> 100</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://fortune.com/ranking/fortune500/" target="_blank"><em>Fortune</em> 500</a></li><li>[20:26] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1517268/" target="_blank">Barbie</a></em></li><li>[20:40] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://bloomington.iu.edu/index.html" target="_blank">IU</a> (Indiana University), <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://kelley.iu.edu/index.html" target="_blank">Kelley School of Business</a> (KSB)</li><li>[21:10] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://indianapolis.iu.edu/" target="_blank">IUPUI</a> (Indiana University Purdue University Indianapolis)</li><li>[21:42] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://indianapolis.iu.edu/" target="_blank">IU Indy</a> (IU Indianapolis)</li><li>[22:00] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting</a></li><li>[24:04] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIHExGaxfPE" target="_blank">Ryan Gosling</a></li><li>[25:07] How did Jess revamp the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://shop.mattel.com/collections/barbie" target="_blank">Barbie</a> brand</li><li>[25:18] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://shop.mattel.com/" target="_blank">Mattel</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://shop.mattel.com/collections/monster-high" target="_blank">Monster High</a></li><li>[26:32] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2019/01/17/where-millennials-end-and-generation-z-begins/" target="_blank">Millennials</a></li><li>[27:19] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.brandwatch.com/blog/how-to-measure-brand-awareness/" target="_blank">Brand Awareness Rating</a></li><li>[28:02] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.dazeddigital.com/fashion/article/29548/1/new-body-positive-barbie-lands-the-cover-of-time-magazine" target="_blank">Barbie <em>TIME</em> Cover</a></li><li>[28:52] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm4793987/" target="_blank">Issa Rae</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://shop.mattel.com/products/barbie-doll-hpk05" target="_blank">President Barbie</a></li><li>[29:35] What drove the success of the Barbie rebrand</li><li>[30:45] The <em>Wild Business Growth</em> podcast is on YouTube! <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/@maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Subscribe @MaxBranstetter</a> to watch full video interviews with Wild entrepreneurs like Jess</li></ul><ul><li>[30:46] Sign up for the <em>Podcasting to the Max</em> newsletter at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/newsletter/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/Newsletter</a> and receive <em>How to Edit Your Podcast in Audacity</em>. It&#8217;s where podcasting meets entrepreneurship &#8211; and terrible puns</li><li>[31:40] Such an honor speaking at Podcast Movement &#8217;23 in Denver! Sign up to grab the slides from my session at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/PM23/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/PM23</a></li></ul></li></ul>



<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-large is-resized"><img loading="lazy" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/1159533.jpg" alt="Barbie's TIME cover" class="wp-image-9545" width="405" height="541" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/1159533.jpg 524w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/1159533-299x400.jpg 299w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/1159533-500x668.jpg 500w" sizes="(max-width: 405px) 100vw, 405px" /><figcaption>Barbie&#8217;s <em><a href="https://time.com/barbie-new-body-cover-story/">TIME</a></em> cover</figcaption></figure></div>



<ul><li><strong>Culture</strong><ul><li>[31:51] What are some brand guardrails for culture</li><li>[32:04] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.jessweiner.com/post/what-does-sfsn-mean-sounds-fabulous-signifies-nothing" target="_blank">SFSN</a> (Sounds Fabulous, Signifies Nothing)</li><li>[36:07] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.pewresearch.org/internet/2021/05/19/americans-and-cancel-culture-where-some-see-calls-for-accountability-others-see-censorship-punishment/" target="_blank">Cancel Culture</a></li><li>[36:21] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.smartbrief.com/" target="_blank">SmartBrief</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.superbowl-ads.com/" target="_blank">Super Bowl Ads</a></li><li>[36:48] How do you decide if a risk is worth taking as a brand</li><li>[39:41] Not again</li><li>[39:55] How do you stay in the know with <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_culture" target="_blank">pop culture</a></li></ul></li><li><strong>Rapid-Fire Q&amp;A</strong><ul><li>[41:55] So silly</li><li>[42:18] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://hamiltonmusical.com/new-york/" target="_blank">Hamilton</a></em></li><li>[42:28] How did Jess get stranded in <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.britannica.com/place/Crete" target="_blank">Crete</a></li><li>[43:20] How does a bus get to/from Crete</li><li>[43:32] How long is the ferry from <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athens" target="_blank">Athens</a> to Crete</li><li>[44:08] What&#8217;s Jess&#8217;s favorite Greek phrase</li><li>[44:58] How often does her last name get made fun of</li><li>[45:52] <a href="https://www.wienerscirclechicago.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Wiener&#8217;s Circle</a> (or The Weiner&#8217;s Circle)</li><li>[46:07] Connect with Jess on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessweiner/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a>, on Instagram <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/imjessweiner/?hl=en" target="_blank">@ImJessWeiner</a>, and at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.jessweiner.com/" target="_blank">JessWeiner.com</a></li></ul><ul><li>[46:38] What are Jess&#8217;s Final Thoughts</li><li>[47:17] Follow the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth</em></a> podcast and tell a friend about the podcast. And show love (or roast me) by leaving 5 stars on Apple Podcasts and/or Spotify</li></ul><ul><li>[47:27] The <em>Wild Business Growth</em> podcast is on YouTube! <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/@maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Subscribe @MaxBranstetter</a> to watch full video interviews with Wild entrepreneurs like Jess</li></ul><ul><li>[47:31] Check out the <em>Wild Business Growth</em> podcast<em> </em>on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.goodpods.com/" target="_blank">Goodpods</a>, where you can see what your favorite people are listening to</li><li>[47:32] Connect with me on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/max-branstetter-74150a57/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/maxbranstetter/" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Twitter</a> (aka <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/maxbranstetter" target="_blank">X</a>), and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.threads.net/@maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Threads</a> @MaxBranstetter and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.tiktok.com/@wildbusinessgrowth" target="_blank">TikTok</a> @WildBusinessGrowth</li></ul><ul><li>[47:33] Save time with your high-quality podcast. Email me at <a href="mailto:m&#97;x&#64;max&#112;&#111;dca&#115;&#116;&#105;&#110;g&#46;c&#111;&#109;">m&#97;&#120;&#64;&#109;&#97;&#120;po&#100;ca&#115;t&#105;ng&#46;c&#111;&#109;</a> to bring your podcast to life and use it as a business-building tool</li><li>[47:37] Sign up for the <em>Podcasting to the Max</em> newsletter at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/newsletter/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/Newsletter</a> and receive <em>How to Edit Your Podcast in Audacity</em>. It&#8217;s where podcasting meets entrepreneurship &#8211; and terrible puns</li><li>Theme music: Freestyle Percussion Magik &#8211; &#8220;Jungle Tribe&#8221; &#8211; provided by Jamendo</li></ul></li></ul>



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<h2 id="podcast-summary"><strong>What is the <em>Wild Business Growth</em> podcast?</strong></h2>



<p>Wild ideas. Wild growth. Every Wednesday morning a new entrepreneur joins the <em>Wild Business Growth </em>podcast to share the wildly creative and unusual ways they grew their business &#8211; and teaches you how to do it, too. Hear the minds behind WordPress, Stacy&#8217;s Pita Chips, Drybar, NFL RedZone, Big Mouth Billy Bass, the voice of Bart Simpson, and more Wild stories. Hosted by <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/about/" target="_blank">Max Branstetter</a> (that&#8217;s me), Founder and Podcast Producer at MaxPodcasting.</p>



<h2><strong>How do you start a podcast?</strong></h2>



<p>Interested in starting a professional-sounding and professional-looking podcast for your brand, but don&#8217;t want to deal with the time commitment of all those behind-the-scenes details? I’ve got you covered. Email me at <a href="mailto:max&#64;&#109;a&#120;&#112;odc&#97;&#115;ting&#46;&#99;om">max&#64;ma&#120;po&#100;&#99;&#97;&#115;t&#105;&#110;&#103;.&#99;om</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool.</p>



<p>Thanks for listening to Jess Weiner on the <em>Wild Business Growth</em> podcast.<em> </em>To hear more Wild stories like this one every Wednesday morning, follow the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth</em></a> podcast and tell a friend about it. And watch <em>Barbie</em> with them. Until next time, Let your business Run Wild&#8230;and <strong><em>Bring on the Bongos!!</em></strong></p>
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