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					<description><![CDATA[Nick Childs, the Co-Founder and Chief Creative Officer of DIRT, joins the Wild Business Growth Podcast to share his journey from creating Super Bowl ads to measuring the neuroscientific reactions of consumers.]]></description>
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<p class="has-drop-cap">Imagine strapping some sensors to a consumer&#8217;s fingers and being able to tell the exact points they found exciting or boring in a commercial. That&#8217;s gotta be from the future, right? It&#8217;s also from the present thanks to this week&#8217;s <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">Wild Business Growth Podcast</a></em> guest, Nick Childs. Nick is the Co-Founder and Chief Creative Officer of DIRT. Listen to the episode on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wild-business-growth-podcast/id1422144338?mt=2" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6mSUsqYobBljhKIuK9sKJV" target="_blank">Spotify</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://podcasts.google.com/?feed=aHR0cDovL3dpbGRidXNpbmVzc2dyb3d0aHBvZGNhc3QubGlic3luLmNvbS9yc3M%3D" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a>, and your other favorite <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">podcast platforms</a>.</p>



<ul><li><a href="#episode-summary">Episode Summary &amp; Player</a></li><li><a href="#show-notes">Show Notes</a></li><li><a href="#podcast-summary"><em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em> Summary</a></li></ul>



<h2 id="episode-summary"><strong>Episode 175: Nick Childs &#8211; </strong>Creative Neuroscience, Co-Founder of DIRT</h2>



<p>Nick Childs, the Co-Founder and Chief Creative Officer of DIRT, joins the show to share his journey from creating Super Bowl ads to measuring the neuroscientific reactions of consumers. Hear how DIRT uses biometric sensors to measure consumer reactions to ads, the Galvanic Skin Response, secret to pulling off a great Super Bowl ad, best part of film festivals, and story behind the E-Trade baby. This episode covers everything from jealousy to Cannes Lions. Here&#8217;s a small sample of what you will hear in this episode:</p>



<ul><li>What is the secret to pulling off a great Super Bowl ad</li><li>How do you help clients to stay open with ideas</li><li>What are DIRT&#8217;s sensors actually measuring</li><li>How are they weaving neuroscience into DIRT</li><li>What is the Galvanic Skin Response</li><li>Tribeca &amp; Sundance</li><li>What&#8217;s the best way clients can apply the insights from DIRT</li><li>Fun facts of being 6&#8217;6&#8243;</li></ul>



<p>Connect with Nick at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://wearedirt.com/" target="_blank">WeAreDIRT.com</a> and on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/NickChilds" target="_blank">Twitter</a> at @NickChilds.</p>



<p>Enjoy the shoooooow! Check out the show notes below for much more detail.</p>



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<h2 id="show-notes"><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2>



<ul><li><strong>Intro &amp; Creative Directing</strong><ul><li>[0:28] Email me at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="mailto:&#109;&#97;&#120;&#64;&#104;i&#112;p&#111;d&#105;&#114;&#101;c&#116;&#46;c&#111;m" target="_blank">&#109;a&#120;&#64;&#109;ax&#112;o&#100;&#99;&#97;&#115;&#116;in&#103;&#46;&#99;&#111;m</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool</li><li>[0:41] Connect with Nick at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://wearedirt.com/" target="_blank">WeAreDIRT.com</a> and on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/NickChilds" target="_blank">Twitter</a> at @NickChilds</li></ul><ul><li>[2:34] Nick Childs: Not the Least Amazing</li><li>[3:04] What is the secret to pulling off a great <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.nfl.com/super-bowl/" target="_blank">Super Bowl</a> ad</li><li>[3:22] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sycophantic" target="_blank">Sycophantic</a></li><li>[4:14] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/b/brand.asp" target="_blank">Brand</a></li><li>[4:28] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.twitch.tv/" target="_blank">Twitch</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.snapchat.com/" target="_blank">Snap</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.tiktok.com/en/" target="_blank">TikTok</a></li><li>[4:45] How do you help <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://smallbusiness.chron.com/difference-between-customer-vs-client-56387.html" target="_blank">clients</a> to stay open with ideas</li><li>[5:23] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-reilly-796717" target="_blank">Rob Reilly</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.wpp.com/" target="_blank">WPP</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.canneslions.com/enter/awards/lions-categories/titanium-lions" target="_blank">Cannes Lions Titanium</a></li><li>[8:11] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://adage.com/" target="_blank">Ad</a> (Advertisement)</li><li>[8:39] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">WILD</a></li></ul><ul><li>[8:47] Kat &amp; Jethro Gilligan Toth on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/kat-and-jethro-gilligan-toth-the-box-of-oddities-fun-freaks/id1422144338?i=1000468063745" target="_blank">Episode #85</a> of the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em></li><li>[9:13] Shoutout the <a href="https://www.theboxofoddities.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Freaks</a>!</li><li>[9:23] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://janisjoplin.com/" target="_blank">Janis Joplin</a></li><li>[10:10] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodecagram" target="_blank">Dodecagram</a></li><li>[10:21] What is Nick&#8217;s favorite creative role</li><li>[10:45] Shoutout any <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://burialbeer.com/" target="_blank">brewery</a></li><li>[11:24] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/podcast-production/" target="_blank">Editing</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/podcast-production/" target="_blank">Production</a></li><li>[12:08] Hey Nick are you still playing?</li><li>[12:28] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodecahedron" target="_blank">Dodecahedron</a></li><li>[13:07] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://smallbusiness.chron.com/define-good-client-service-2081.html" target="_blank">Client Services</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.webfx.com/blog/marketing/what-is-a-marketing-agency/#:~:text=While%20it%20may%20seem%20confusing,create%2C%20and%20manage%20marketing%20campaigns." target="_blank">Agency</a></li></ul></li></ul>



<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-large"><img loading="lazy" width="1024" height="727" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/IMG_7385-1024x727.jpg" alt="Nick Childs - Wild Business Growth Podcast #175: Creative Neuroscience, Co-Founder of DIRT" class="wp-image-5179" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/IMG_7385-1024x727.jpg 1024w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/IMG_7385-400x284.jpg 400w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/IMG_7385-768x545.jpg 768w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/IMG_7385-500x355.jpg 500w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/IMG_7385-400x284@2x.jpg 800w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/IMG_7385-1280x909.jpg 1280w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/IMG_7385-1920x1363.jpg 1920w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/IMG_7385-768x545@2x.jpg 1536w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/IMG_7385-1024x727@2x.jpg 2048w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/IMG_7385-500x355@2x.jpg 1000w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/IMG_7385-800x568@2x.jpg 1600w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/IMG_7385-1280x909@2x.jpg 2560w" sizes="(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px" /><figcaption>Nick has an excellent book collection</figcaption></figure></div>



<ul id="block-baade927-068a-4c27-9f19-e7e74b0a4476"><li><strong>The DIRT Story</strong><ul><li>[13:40] Shoutout longtime Wild Listener <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.christinaaguilera.com/" target="_blank">Christina Aguilera</a>!</li><li>[14:04] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.henkel-northamerica.com/" target="_blank">CPG</a> (Consumer Packaged Goods)</li><li>[14:28] How are they weaving neuroscience into <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://wearedirt.com/" target="_blank">DIRT</a></li><li>[15:15] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.hbomax.com/" target="_blank">HBO</a></li><li>[16:58] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.apple.com/app-store/" target="_blank">App</a></li><li>[17:41] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://rockcontent.com/blog/business-data/#:~:text=Business%20data%20is%20all%20the,and%20even%20website%20traffic%20statistics.&amp;text=As%20companies%20continue%20to%20increase,for%20future%20analysis%20only%20increases." target="_blank">Data</a></li><li>[19:43] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://tribecafilm.com/" target="_blank">Tribeca</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.sundance.org/" target="_blank">Sundance</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.filmlinc.org/nyff2021/" target="_blank">New York Film Festival</a></li><li>[20:00] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.oculus.com/" target="_blank">VR</a> (Virtual Reality), <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augmented_reality" target="_blank">AR</a> (Augmented Reality)</li><li>[20:55] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/muse" target="_blank">Muse</a></li><li>[21:55] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://builtin.com/artificial-intelligence" target="_blank">Ai</a> (Artificial Intelligence)</li><li>[22:02] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://signalfire.com/blog/creator-economy/" target="_blank">Creator Economy</a></li><li>[22:49] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.ama.org/the-definition-of-marketing-what-is-marketing/" target="_blank">Marketing</a></li><li>[23:08] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.salesforce.com/" target="_blank">Sales</a></li><li>[23:27] What are DIRT&#8217;s sensors actually measuring</li><li>[24:19] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Peele" target="_blank">Jordan Peele</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.monkeypawproductions.com/" target="_blank">Monkeypaw</a></li><li>[24:29] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.blumhouse.com/" target="_blank">Blumhouse</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0089658/" target="_blank">Jason Blum</a></li><li>[25:56] What is the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://imotions.com/blog/gsr/#:~:text=The%20galvanic%20skin%20response%20(GSR,otherwise%20known%20as%20emotional%20arousal." target="_blank">Galvanic Skin Response</a> (GSR)</li><li>[26:26] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryananthony/" target="_blank">Ryan Anthony</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/bmurray2/" target="_blank">Dr. Brendan Murray</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/aravind-swaminathan-74817787/" target="_blank">Arivand Swaminathan</a></li><li>[27:32] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.nbc.com/fear-factor" target="_blank">Fear Factor</a></em> lol</li><li>[29:28] What&#8217;s the best way clients can apply the insights from DIRT</li><li>[29:49] Pump fake!</li><li>[29:59] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://georgesaundersbooks.com/" target="_blank">George Saunders</a></li><li>[30:15] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://georgesaunders.substack.com/" target="_blank">Story Club</a></li><li>[30:19] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.syracuse.edu/" target="_blank">Syracuse University</a></li><li>[30:35] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/literature/1954/hemingway/biographical/" target="_blank">Ernest Hemingway</a></li><li>[30:42] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.hippodirect.com/" target="_blank">Newsletter</a></li><li>[32:08] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="http://www.elmoreleonard.com/" target="_blank">Elmore Leonard</a>, <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1489428/" target="_blank">Justified</a></em>, <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.amazon.com/Out-Sight-Novel-Elmore-Leonard/dp/0062227874" target="_blank">Out of Sight</a></em>, <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0113161/" target="_blank">Get Shorty</a></em></li><li>[32:55] Save time with your high-quality podcast. Email me at <a href="mailto:max&#64;ma&#120;po&#100;c&#97;s&#116;ing&#46;com">m&#97;x&#64;maxp&#111;dca&#115;tin&#103;&#46;&#99;&#111;&#109;</a> to bring your podcast to life and use it as a business-building tool</li></ul></li></ul>



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<ul id="block-baade927-068a-4c27-9f19-e7e74b0a4476"><li><strong>Inspiration &amp; Creativity: People, Hobbies, and Resources</strong><ul><li>[33:45] What does Nick do to stay creative</li><li>[35:00] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://austinkleon.com/" target="_blank">Austin Kleon</a>, <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.amazon.com/Show-Your-Work-Austin-Kleon/dp/076117897X/ref=asc_df_076117897X/?tag=hyprod-20&amp;linkCode=df0&amp;hvadid=312065696873&amp;hvpos=&amp;hvnetw=g&amp;hvrand=5046538636118238172&amp;hvpone=&amp;hvptwo=&amp;hvqmt=&amp;hvdev=c&amp;hvdvcmdl=&amp;hvlocint=&amp;hvlocphy=1015020&amp;hvtargid=pla-404289621070&amp;psc=1&amp;tag=&amp;ref=&amp;adgrpid=61316180399&amp;hvpone=&amp;hvptwo=&amp;hvadid=312065696873&amp;hvpos=&amp;hvnetw=g&amp;hvrand=5046538636118238172&amp;hvqmt=&amp;hvdev=c&amp;hvdvcmdl=&amp;hvlocint=&amp;hvlocphy=1015020&amp;hvtargid=pla-404289621070" target="_blank">Show Your Work!</a></em> by Austin Kleon</li><li>[35:11] <a href="https://www.mindaharts.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Minda Harts</a></li><li>[35:28] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.lauraolin.com/" target="_blank">Laura Olin</a></li><li>[36:18] <em><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7660850/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Succession</a> </em>(no I haven&#8217;t yet)</li><li>[37:26] Dr. Willard Wigan MBE on<em> </em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/willard-wigan/" target="_blank">Episode #174</a> of the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em></li><li>[38:09] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://canary---yellow.com/" target="_blank">Virgil Abloh</a></li><li>[38:15] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1569276/" target="_blank">Chadwick Boseman</a></li><li>[38:31] <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/mary-oliver" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Mary Oliver</a></li><li>[38:43] <a href="https://www.britannica.com/biography/Chloe-Zhao" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Chloé Zhao</a>, <em><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9770150/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Nomadland</a></em>, <em><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6217608/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Rider</a></em>, <em><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9032400/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Eternals</a></em></li><li>[39:19] <a href="https://www.npr.org/sections/live-updates-oscars-2021/2021/04/25/988816124/chloe-zhao-is-the-first-woman-of-color-to-win-oscar-for-best-director" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Oscar</a></li><li>[40:39] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6mSUsqYobBljhKIuK9sKJV" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li><li>[41:09] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://tallo.com/blog/what-is-graduate-degree/" target="_blank">Graduate Degree</a></li></ul></li><li><strong>Wild Business Shoutout of the Week</strong><ul><li>[41:54] #Harmonica4Life</li><li>[42:12] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.ayoa.com/ourblog/creativity-in-marketing-the-secret-ingredient-youve-probably-not-considered/#:~:text=Creative%20marketing%20is%20the%20generation,rather%20than%20outspending%2C%20your%20competition." target="_blank">Creative Marketing</a></li><li>[42:30] &#8220;<a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCbfq_-cd-g" target="_blank">Open Spaces</a>&#8221; by Burberry</li><li>[43:06] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/maxbranstetter/" target="_blank">Millennial</a></li><li>[44:54] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.pulitzer.org/" target="_blank">Pulitzer Prize</a></li><li>[46:39] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.tiffany.com/" target="_blank">Tiffany</a></li></ul></li><li><strong>Final Thoughts</strong><ul><li>[47:24] What&#8217;s Nick&#8217;s favorite part of film festivals</li><li>[48:02] What&#8217;s his biggest pet peeve</li><li>[48:53] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impostor_syndrome" target="_blank">Impostor Syndrome</a></li><li>[49:26] What&#8217;s Nick&#8217;s favorite and least favorite parts of being 6&#8217;6&#8243;</li><li>[50:41] What&#8217;s something about the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hashPaU7Dpk" target="_blank">E*TRADE baby</a> most people would be surprised by</li><li>[51:07] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://zoom.us/" target="_blank">Zoom</a></li><li>[52:02] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/podcast-production/" target="_blank">Postproduction</a></li><li>[52:11] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.samsung.com/us/" target="_blank">Samsung</a></li><li>[53:00] Connect with Nick at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://wearedirt.com/" target="_blank">WeAreDIRT.com</a> and on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/NickChilds" target="_blank">Twitter</a> at @NickChilds</li></ul><ul><li>[53:34] What are Nick&#8217;s Final Thoughts</li></ul><ul><li>[54:10] Follow the <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">Wild Business Growth Podcast</a></em> and tell a friend about the podcast. And 5 stars on Apple Podcasts &amp; Spotify if you dare</li></ul><ul><li>[54:18] Check out the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast </em>on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.goodpods.com/" target="_blank">GoodPods</a>, where you can see what your favorite people are listening to</li><li>[54:27] Connect with me on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/maxbranstetter/" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/max-branstetter-74150a57/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a> at @MaxBranstetter</li><li>[54:46] Save time with your high-quality podcast. Email me at <a href="mailto:ma&#120;&#64;m&#97;xpod&#99;asti&#110;&#103;.&#99;&#111;m">m&#97;x&#64;m&#97;x&#112;o&#100;&#99;&#97;s&#116;in&#103;.com</a> to bring your podcast to life and use it as a business-building tool</li><li>Theme music: Freestyle Percussion Magik &#8211; &#8220;Jungle Tribe&#8221; &#8211; provided by Jamendo</li></ul></li></ul>



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<h2 id="podcast-summary"><strong>What is the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em>?</strong></h2>



<p>Wild ideas. Wild growth. Every Wednesday morning a new entrepreneur or innovator joins the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em> to share the crazy creative and unusual ways they grew their business, and provides tips for you to do it, too. Hear the woman who became the voice of Siri, the man who’s reinventing the sandcastle, how GaryVee’s partners are turning the wine world upside down, and more wild stories. Hosted by <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/about/" target="_blank">Max Branstetter</a> (that&#8217;s me), Founder and Podcast Producer at MaxPodcasting.</p>



<h2><strong>How do you start a podcast?</strong></h2>



<p>Interested in starting a professional-sounding podcast for your brand, but don&#8217;t want to deal with the time commitment of all those behind-the-scenes details? I’ve got you covered. Email me at <a href="mailto:max&#64;&#109;&#97;&#120;p&#111;dc&#97;&#115;t&#105;n&#103;&#46;&#99;&#111;m">&#109;&#97;&#120;&#64;&#109;&#97;&#120;&#112;odc&#97;&#115;ting&#46;c&#111;m</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool.</p>



<p>Thanks for listening to Nick Childs on the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast. </em>To hear more Wild stories like this one every Wednesday morning, follow the <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">Wild Business Growth Podcast</a></em> and tell a friend about it. And watch the E*TRADE baby for old times&#8217; sake. Until next time, Let your business Run Wild&#8230;and <em><strong>Bring on the Bongos!!</strong></em></p>
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		<title>Michele Ronsen &#8211; Wild Business Growth Podcast #133: Curiosity Tank, How to Ask Better Questions</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2021 08:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Michele Ronsen, the Founder, Educator, and Chief Curiosity Cat of Curiosity Tank, joins the Wild Business Growth Podcast to share her journey from drawing logos as a 3-year-old to leading user research and design for Fortune 500 companies and startups.]]></description>
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<p class="has-drop-cap">Why did you have chicken parm for dinner last night <em>again</em>? It&#8217;s probably something you didn&#8217;t think too much about. But questions like this can help you understand your users and customers on a different level and lead to informed decisions on your end. This week&#8217;s <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">Wild Business Growth Podcast</a></em> guest, Michele Ronsen, is all about asking better questions. She&#8217;s the Founder, Educator, and Chief Curiosity Cat of Curiosity Tank. Listen to the episode on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wild-business-growth-podcast/id1422144338?mt=2" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6mSUsqYobBljhKIuK9sKJV" target="_blank">Spotify</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://podcasts.google.com/?feed=aHR0cDovL3dpbGRidXNpbmVzc2dyb3d0aHBvZGNhc3QubGlic3luLmNvbS9yc3M%3D" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a>, and your other favorite <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">podcast platforms</a>.</p>



<ul><li><a href="#episode-summary">Episode Summary &amp; Player</a></li><li><a href="#show-notes">Show Notes</a></li><li><a href="#podcast-summary"><em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em> Summary</a></li></ul>



<h2 id="episode-summary"><strong>Episode 133: Michele Ronsen – Curiosity Tank, How to Ask Better Questions</strong></h2>



<p>Michele Ronsen, the Founder, Educator, and Chief Curiosity Cat of Curiosity Tank, joins the show to share her journey from drawing logos as a 3-year-old to leading user research and design for Fortune 500 companies and startups. Hear how to ask better questions, why short questions are better, how to deal with rejection, how we decide what we eat for dinner, and the Skittles Popcorn experiment. This episode covers everything from the best questions to ask to adventures with Michele&#8217;s daughter, &#8220;Bunny.&#8221; Here&#8217;s a small sample of what you will hear in this episode:</p>



<ul><li>Why does Michele have a stronger connection with the McDonald&#8217;s logo than the average person</li><li>What are the most memorable projects from her design career</li><li>What are her favorite and least favorite questions to ask</li><li>The Acronym Decoder</li><li>Why does the Energizer Bunny keep going and going and going and&#8230;</li><li>Why is Michele so good at multitasking</li><li>What is the most creative food concoction her daughter has created</li><li>What did Michele&#8217;s parents do for a living</li></ul>



<p>Connect with Michele on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/michele-ronsen-0a55233" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a> and at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.curiositytank.com/" target="_blank">CuriosityTank.com</a>.</p>



<p>Enjoy the shooooow! Check out the show notes below for much more detail.</p>



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<h2 id="show-notes"><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2>



<ul><li><strong>Intro</strong> <strong>&amp; Curiosity Since Childhood</strong><ul><li>[0:31] Email me at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="mailto:&#109;&#97;x&#64;&#104;i&#112;p&#111;&#100;&#105;r&#101;ct&#46;&#99;o&#109;" target="_blank">m&#97;x&#64;max&#112;&#111;d&#99;&#97;&#115;t&#105;ng.&#99;om</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool</li></ul><ul><li>[0:44] Connect with Michele on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/michele-ronsen-0a55233" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a> and at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.curiositytank.com/" target="_blank">CuriosityTank.com</a></li><li>[1:45] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.curiositytank.com/" target="_blank">Curiosity Tank</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.curiositytank.com/workshops" target="_blank">User Research</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.curiositytank.com/about" target="_blank">Design</a></li><li>[2:13] What is Michele&#8217;s childhood memory with the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us.html" target="_blank">McDonald&#8217;s</a> logo</li><li>[3:35] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/l/logo.asp#:~:text=A%20logo%20is%20a%20graphic,it%20has%20sufficient%20brand%20recognition." target="_blank">Logo</a></li><li>[3:47] Creative Torture</li><li>[3:54] What did Michele&#8217;s drawing look like</li><li>[4:42] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.bozeman.net/" target="_blank">Bozeman, MT</a></li><li>[5:04] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.mckinsey.com/business-functions/strategy-and-corporate-finance/our-insights/the-eight-essentials-of-innovation" target="_blank">Innovation</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://medlineplus.gov/genetics/understanding/basics/dna/" target="_blank">DNA</a></li><li>[6:18] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.pentagram.com/" target="_blank">Pentagram</a></li><li>[6:20] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/paula-scher/" target="_blank">Paula Scher</a> on the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em></li><li>[6:22] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.nordstrom.com/" target="_blank">Nordstrom</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.bankofamerica.com/" target="_blank">Bank of America</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.wellsfargo.com/" target="_blank">Wells Fargo</a></li><li>[6:27] What is the most memorable project from Michele&#8217;s design career</li><li>[7:00] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://press.nordstrom.com/news-releases/news-release-details/nordstrom-names-chief-innovation-officer-focus-stores-future" target="_blank">Nordstrom Innovation Team</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://corporatefinanceinstitute.com/resources/knowledge/other/products-and-services/#:~:text=What%20are%20Products%20and%20Services,of%20one%20or%20more%20individuals.&amp;text=In%20most%20cases%20services%20are,products%20are%20not%20always%20tangible." target="_blank">Products</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://corporatefinanceinstitute.com/resources/knowledge/other/products-and-services/#:~:text=What%20are%20Products%20and%20Services,of%20one%20or%20more%20individuals.&amp;text=In%20most%20cases%20services%20are,products%20are%20not%20always%20tangible." target="_blank">Services</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.nordstrom.com/browse/beauty" target="_blank">Beauty</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.nordstrom.com/browse/beauty/makeup" target="_blank">Cosmetics</a></li><li>[7:18] <a href="https://careers.bankofamerica.com/en-us/company/future-vision">Bank of the Future</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.olympic.org/salt-lake-city-2002" target="_blank">Salt Lake City Olympics</a></li></ul></li><li><strong>Curiosity Tank &amp; Asking Better Questions</strong><ul><li>[8:23] Why did Michele start her own company</li><li>[8:31] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://medium.com/google-design/the-meaning-of-design-44f1a82129a8" target="_blank">Designer</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.toptal.com/designers/design-director/job-description" target="_blank">Design Director</a></li><li>[8:44] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://portal.cca.edu/people/mronsen/" target="_blank">California College for the Arts</a> (CCA), <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.cca.edu/design/design-strategy/" target="_blank">DMBA Program</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.artandeducation.net/announcements/110929/california-college-of-the-arts-launches-new-leading-by-design-fellows-program" target="_blank">Leading By Design</a> Fellowship</li><li>[9:07] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.edglossary.org/capstone-project/" target="_blank">Capstone Project</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.chieflearningofficer.com/2019/12/05/cohort-based-programs-can-develop-leaders-at-all-levels/" target="_blank">Cohort</a></li><li>[9:24] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.curiositytank.com/about" target="_blank">Research</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.cio.com/article/3224865/what-is-a-project-manager-the-lead-role-for-project-success.html" target="_blank">Project Managers</a></li><li>[9:44] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.hippodirect.com/college-administrators-faculty-lists" target="_blank">Professor</a></li><li>[9:58] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.curiositytank.com/blog/ethnographies-or-unmoderated-studies" target="_blank">Ethnographies</a></li><li>[10:09] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="http://www.americananthro.org/AdvanceYourCareer/Content.aspx?ItemNumber=2150" target="_blank">Anthropology</a></li><li>[10:14] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt00043274/" target="_blank">Alice in Wonderland</a></em></li><li>[10:52] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://resources.workable.com/senior-vice-president-job-description" target="_blank">Senior Vice President</a> (SVP)</li><li>[11:02] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.curiositytank.com/" target="_blank">Clients</a></li><li>[11:14] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://courses.lumenlearning.com/montgomerycollege-masterybusinesslaw3/chapter/what-is-a-contract/#:~:text=Contracts%20Defined&amp;text=Contract%20means%20the%20total%20legal,is%20a%20legally%20enforceable%20promise.%E2%80%9D" target="_blank">Contract</a></li><li>[11:50] Why is Michele so curious</li><li>[11:54] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://quickbooks.intuit.com/ca/resources/business/small-business-insights-competitive-advantage/#:~:text=A%20business%20insight%20combines%20data,competitive%20advantage%20for%20your%20business.&amp;text=Companies%20that%20reveal%20the%20best%20insights%20tend%20toward%20success." target="_blank">Insights</a></li><li>[12:16] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.curiositytank.com/ux-lexicon-blog/mental-model" target="_blank">Mental Model</a></li><li>[12:34] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.studiobinder.com/blog/what-is-technicolor-definition/" target="_blank">Technicolor</a></li><li>[13:02] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.inhersight.com/blog/career-development/colleague-vs-coworker" target="_blank">Colleagues</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/stakeholder.asp" target="_blank">Stakeholders</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.thebalancecareers.com/what-is-an-employer-1918113" target="_blank">Employer</a></li><li>[13:19] Shoutout Dana!</li><li>[13:42] How do you win more clients</li></ul><ul><li>[14:08] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.curiositytank.com/blog/advocating-for-ux-research" target="_blank">Pain Point</a></li><li>[15:00] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.academyart.edu/" target="_blank">Academy of Art</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.berkeley.edu/" target="_blank">UC Berkeley</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://generalassemb.ly/instructors/michele-ronsen/19261" target="_blank">General Assembly</a></li><li>[16:01] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.aha.io/roadmapping/guide/product-management/what-makes-up-the-product-team" target="_blank">Product Teams</a></li><li>[16:41] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.curiositytank.com/" target="_blank">User Researchers</a></li><li>[17:25] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.curiositytank.com/ux-lexicon-blog/generative-research" target="_blank">Generative Research</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.curiositytank.com/ux-lexicon-blog/generative-research" target="_blank">Discovery Research</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.curiositytank.com/ux-lexicon-blog/generative-research" target="_blank">Foundational Research</a></li><li>[17:48] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.resume.com/career-advice/resumes/area-of-expertise-resume-skills/" target="_blank">Areas of Expertise</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.curiositytank.com/" target="_blank">Client List</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.nea.org/" target="_blank">Education</a></li><li>[18:12] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://searchcustomerexperience.techtarget.com/definition/straw-man#:~:text=In%20business%2C%20straw%20man%20is,entire%20position%20has%20been%20refuted." target="_blank">Straw Man Outline</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://a16z.com/2017/02/18/12-things-about-product-market-fit/" target="_blank">Product-Market Fit</a></li><li>[18:24] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="http://blog.eoscu.com/blog/what-is-fidelity-in-research" target="_blank">Fidelity</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK259435/" target="_blank">Engagement</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://contentmarketinginstitute.com/what-is-content-marketing/" target="_blank">Content</a></li><li>[18:51] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.curiositytank.com/consulting" target="_blank">Case Study</a></li><li>[19:01] How do you deal with rejection</li><li>[20:19] Why do you need to ask better questions</li><li>[20:31] Crispalize!</li><li>[20:42] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.curiositytank.com/ux-lexicon" target="_blank">Jargon</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.curiositytank.com/ux-lexicon" target="_blank">Acronyms</a></li><li>[21:06] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://help.surveyanyplace.com/en/support/solutions/articles/35000042310-double-barreled-question" target="_blank">Double-Barreled Questions</a></li><li>[21:23] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.curiositytank.com/" target="_blank">Product Research</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.researchgate.net/post/What-is-the-difference-between-attitude-and-behaviour--any-examples#:~:text=Management%20Development%20Institute-,What%20is%20the%20difference%20between%20attitude%20and%20behaviour%2D%2Dany,or%2Fand%20through%20body%20language." target="_blank">Attitudes</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.researchgate.net/post/What-is-the-difference-between-attitude-and-behaviour--any-examples#:~:text=Management%20Development%20Institute-,What%20is%20the%20difference%20between%20attitude%20and%20behaviour%2D%2Dany,or%2Fand%20through%20body%20language." target="_blank">Behaviors</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.questionpro.com/blog/exploratory-research/" target="_blank">Exploration</a></li><li>[21:45] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.researchgate.net/post/What-is-the-difference-between-attitude-and-behaviour--any-examples#:~:text=Management%20Development%20Institute-,What%20is%20the%20difference%20between%20attitude%20and%20behaviour%2D%2Dany,or%2Fand%20through%20body%20language." target="_blank">Attitudinal</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.researchgate.net/post/What-is-the-difference-between-attitude-and-behaviour--any-examples#:~:text=Management%20Development%20Institute-,What%20is%20the%20difference%20between%20attitude%20and%20behaviour%2D%2Dany,or%2Fand%20through%20body%20language." target="_blank">Behavioral</a></li><li>[22:01] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.curiositytank.com/blog/ethnographies-or-unmoderated-studies" target="_blank">Unmoderated</a></li><li>[22:15] Why is it better to ask short questions</li><li>[22:39] <a href="https://www.nngroup.com/articles/open-ended-questions/#:~:text=Open%2Dended%20questions%20are%20questions,or%20All%20of%20the%20Above)." target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Open-Ended Questions vs. Closed-Ended Questions</a> </li><li>[22:58] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://financial-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Binary+Answer#:~:text=A%20slang%20term%20used%20when,response%20is%20evasive%20or%20misleading." target="_blank">Binary Answer</a></li><li>[23:42] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.fastcompany.com/3058579/six-habits-of-the-best-conversationalists" target="_blank">Conversationalist</a></li><li>[24:07] How do you get better at asking questions</li><li>[24:25] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.nytimes.com/guides/tmagazine/how-to-host-a-dinner-party" target="_blank">Dinner Party</a></li><li>[25:11] I just can&#8217;t resist Alluding to Alliteration</li><li>[25:26] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.curiositytank.com/resources" target="_blank">Tools</a>: Attitudes &amp; Behaviors</li><li>[25:48] Why does it help to ask better questions as a <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://courses.lumenlearning.com/boundless-management/chapter/small-business-owners-a-profile/#:~:text=An%20entrepreneur%20or%20a%20small,shouldering%20considerable%20risk%20alongside%20it)." target="_blank">small business owner</a></li><li>[25:58] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.masterclass.com/articles/how-to-make-informed-decisions" target="_blank">Informed Decisions</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://simplicable.com/new/business-data#:~:text=Business%20data%20is%20information%20that,plan%20and%20operate%20an%20organization.&amp;text=Business%20data%20can%20be%20stored,user%20interface%2C%20document%20or%20report." target="_blank">Data</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="http://www.delmarlearning.com/companions/content/0766838366/students/ch11/faq.asp#:~:text=Subjective%20data%20are%20information%20from,and%20laboratory%20and%20diagnostic%20testing." target="_blank">Subjective Data</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="http://www.delmarlearning.com/companions/content/0766838366/students/ch11/faq.asp#:~:text=Subjective%20data%20are%20information%20from,and%20laboratory%20and%20diagnostic%20testing." target="_blank">Objective Data</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://learn.g2.com/qualitative-vs-quantitative-data#:~:text=Quantitative%20data%20can%20be%20counted,based%20on%20traits%20and%20characteristics." target="_blank">Qualitative Data</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://learn.g2.com/qualitative-vs-quantitative-data#:~:text=Quantitative%20data%20can%20be%20counted,based%20on%20traits%20and%20characteristics." target="_blank">Quantitative Data</a></li><li>[26:33] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://study.com/academy/lesson/what-is-competition-in-marketing-definition-types-quiz.html#:~:text=Competition%20is%20the%20rivalry%20between,profit%2C%20and%20market%20share%20growth." target="_blank">Competition</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.curiositytank.com/blog/feedback-from-my-ask-like-a-pro-students" target="_blank">User Feedback</a></li><li>[27:20] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.curiositytank.com/consulting" target="_blank">Advising</a></li><li>[27:27] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.hideouttheatre.com/about/what-is-improv/" target="_blank">Improv</a></li><li>[27:34] What is Michele&#8217;s favorite question to ask</li><li>[28:05] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.mbaskool.com/business-concepts/marketing-and-strategy-terms/11038-user.html#:~:text=A%20User%20is%20the%20one,of%20a%20goods%20or%20services." target="_blank">User</a></li><li>[28:23] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.appcues.com/blog/user-onboarding-ui-ux-patterns" target="_blank">Onboarding Experience</a></li><li>[28:58] Save time with your high-quality podcast. Email me at <a href="mailto:max&#64;&#109;&#97;&#120;po&#100;&#99;a&#115;ting&#46;c&#111;m">ma&#120;&#64;&#109;a&#120;p&#111;&#100;&#99;&#97;&#115;&#116;&#105;&#110;&#103;.&#99;&#111;&#109;</a> to bring your podcast to life and use it as a business-building tool</li></ul></li></ul>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-large"><img loading="lazy" width="1024" height="881" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Michele-Ronsen-Max-Branstetter-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-133-Curiosity-Tank-How-to-Ask-Better-Questions-1024x881.jpg" alt="Michele Ronsen Max Branstetter - Wild Business Growth Podcast #133 Curiosity Tank, How to Ask Better Questions" class="wp-image-3845" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Michele-Ronsen-Max-Branstetter-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-133-Curiosity-Tank-How-to-Ask-Better-Questions-1024x881.jpg 1024w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Michele-Ronsen-Max-Branstetter-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-133-Curiosity-Tank-How-to-Ask-Better-Questions-400x344.jpg 400w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Michele-Ronsen-Max-Branstetter-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-133-Curiosity-Tank-How-to-Ask-Better-Questions-768x661.jpg 768w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Michele-Ronsen-Max-Branstetter-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-133-Curiosity-Tank-How-to-Ask-Better-Questions-500x430.jpg 500w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Michele-Ronsen-Max-Branstetter-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-133-Curiosity-Tank-How-to-Ask-Better-Questions-400x344@2x.jpg 800w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Michele-Ronsen-Max-Branstetter-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-133-Curiosity-Tank-How-to-Ask-Better-Questions-1280x1102.jpg 1280w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Michele-Ronsen-Max-Branstetter-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-133-Curiosity-Tank-How-to-Ask-Better-Questions-1920x1653.jpg 1920w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Michele-Ronsen-Max-Branstetter-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-133-Curiosity-Tank-How-to-Ask-Better-Questions-768x661@2x.jpg 1536w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Michele-Ronsen-Max-Branstetter-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-133-Curiosity-Tank-How-to-Ask-Better-Questions-1024x881@2x.jpg 2048w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Michele-Ronsen-Max-Branstetter-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-133-Curiosity-Tank-How-to-Ask-Better-Questions-500x430@2x.jpg 1000w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Michele-Ronsen-Max-Branstetter-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-133-Curiosity-Tank-How-to-Ask-Better-Questions-800x689@2x.jpg 1600w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Michele-Ronsen-Max-Branstetter-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-133-Curiosity-Tank-How-to-Ask-Better-Questions-1280x1102@2x.jpg 2560w" sizes="(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px" /><figcaption>The Tank of Curiosity</figcaption></figure>



<ul><li><strong>Inspiration &amp; Creativity/Curiosity: People, Hobbies, and Resources</strong><ul><li>[29:33] How do you stay curious</li><li>[30:05] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.womenshealthmag.com/life/a22500573/questions-to-ask-to-get-to-know-someone/" target="_blank">Surface-Level Questions</a></li><li>[30:51] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.post-it.com/3M/en_US/post-it/products/~/Post-it-Products/Notes/?N=4327+5927575+3294529207+3294857497&amp;rt=r3" target="_blank">Post-it Notes</a></li><li>[31:32] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUdLlhTmenc" target="_blank">Chicken Parm you taste so good</a> (Chicken Parmesan)</li><li>[32:04] Why does chicken parm taste so good</li><li>[32:52] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt000000000366551/" target="_blank">Harold &amp; Kumar Go to White Castle</a></em></li><li>[33:12] What hobbies help you stay curious</li><li>[34:23] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://calendar.google.com/calendar/render?mode=week" target="_blank">Calendar</a></li><li>[34:41] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://corporatefinanceinstitute.com/resources/knowledge/accounting/revenue-streams/" target="_blank">Revenue Stream</a></li><li>[34:51] How do curious and creative hobbies help your business</li><li>[35:41] Who does Michele like to follow for inspiration</li><li>[36:25] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.talentlyft.com/en/resources/what-is-hiring-process" target="_blank">Hiring</a></li><li>[36:31] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.curiositytank.com/ux-lexicon" target="_blank">UX Lex</a> (UX Lexicon)</li><li>[37:10] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.curiositytank.com/ux-lexicon" target="_blank">Acronym Decoder</a></li><li>[37:18] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.curiositytank.com/ux-lexicon" target="_blank">UX</a> (User Experience)</li><li>[38:12] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/b/business.asp" target="_blank">Businesses</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/i/industry.asp" target="_blank">Industries</a></li></ul></li><li><strong>Wild Business Shoutout of the Week</strong><ul><li>[38:40] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://simplicable.com/new/creative-marketing#:~:text=Creative%20marketing%20is%20the%20process,products%20in%20an%20inspiring%20experience." target="_blank">Creative Marketing</a></li><li>[38:49] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://smallbusiness.chron.com/difference-between-ad-commercial-26203.html" target="_blank">Commercial</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.energizer.com/energizer-bunny" target="_blank">Mascot</a></li><li>[38:55] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiFQsxGUQOI" target="_blank">Original Energizer Bunny Commercial</a></li><li>[40:01] What does Michele&#8217;s daughter have in common with the Energizer Bunny</li><li>[40:50] Why does the Energizer Bunny have such staying power</li></ul></li></ul>



<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-medium"><img loading="lazy" width="400" height="246" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Michele-Ronsen-Curiosity-Tank-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-133-Curiosity-Tank-How-to-Ask-Better-Questions-400x246.jpg" alt="Michele Ronsen - Wild Business Growth Podcast #133: Curiosity Tank, How to Ask Better Questions" class="wp-image-3846" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Michele-Ronsen-Curiosity-Tank-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-133-Curiosity-Tank-How-to-Ask-Better-Questions-400x246.jpg 400w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Michele-Ronsen-Curiosity-Tank-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-133-Curiosity-Tank-How-to-Ask-Better-Questions-1024x630.jpg 1024w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Michele-Ronsen-Curiosity-Tank-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-133-Curiosity-Tank-How-to-Ask-Better-Questions-768x473.jpg 768w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Michele-Ronsen-Curiosity-Tank-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-133-Curiosity-Tank-How-to-Ask-Better-Questions-500x308.jpg 500w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Michele-Ronsen-Curiosity-Tank-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-133-Curiosity-Tank-How-to-Ask-Better-Questions-400x246@2x.jpg 800w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Michele-Ronsen-Curiosity-Tank-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-133-Curiosity-Tank-How-to-Ask-Better-Questions-1280x788.jpg 1280w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Michele-Ronsen-Curiosity-Tank-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-133-Curiosity-Tank-How-to-Ask-Better-Questions.jpg 1444w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Michele-Ronsen-Curiosity-Tank-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-133-Curiosity-Tank-How-to-Ask-Better-Questions-500x308@2x.jpg 1000w" sizes="(max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px" /></figure></div>



<ul><li><strong>The Unusual: Pet Peeves, Quirks, and Weird Talents</strong><ul><li>[42:00] Quite the drumroll</li><li>[42:05] What is a weird talent Michele has</li><li>[42:16] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.verywellmind.com/multitasking-2795003" target="_blank">Multitasking</a></li><li>[43:02] What is a quirk Michele has</li><li>[43:41] What is a pet peeve she has</li><li>[43:56] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.brainpickings.org/2014/01/29/carol-dweck-mindset/" target="_blank">Fixed Mindset</a></li><li>[44:32] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.hippodirect.com/college-administrators-faculty-lists" target="_blank">Educators</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://startupguide.com/12-greatest-innovators-of-all-time" target="_blank">Innovators</a></li><li>[44:40] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.brainpickings.org/2014/01/29/carol-dweck-mindset/" target="_blank">Growth Mindset</a></li><li>[44:45] Thinking outside the box and beyond</li><li>[45:18] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.nngroup.com/articles/diverge-converge/" target="_blank">Diverge-Converge</a></li></ul></li><li><strong>Rapid-Fire Q&amp;A</strong><ul><li>[45:37] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80234304" target="_blank">The Queen&#8217;s Gambit</a></em></li><li>[45:59] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.chess.com/" target="_blank">Chess</a>, <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://abc.com/shows/shark-tank" target="_blank">Shark Tank</a></em></li><li>[46:11] What is Michele&#8217;s least favorite question to ask</li><li>[46:28] Really couldn&#8217;t resist</li><li>[46:37] What is the most challenging part of teaching at the collegiate level </li><li>[46:58] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.diffen.com/difference/Mac_vs_PC#:~:text=A%20PC%20generally%20refers%20to,on%20the%20Windows%20operating%20system.&amp;text=The%20Mac%20is%20the%20only,be%20run%3B%20side%20by%20side." target="_blank">Mac vs. PC</a></li><li>[47:13] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://tophat.com/glossary/a/academic-rigor/#:~:text=Academic%20Rigor%20refers%20to%20a,these%20standards%20are%20less%20defined." target="_blank">Academic Rigor</a></li><li>[48:22] Curiositivititively (rolls off the tongue/rolls the tongue into a ball)</li><li>[48:30] What is a memorable form of &#8220;creative torture&#8221; from Michele&#8217;s childhood</li><li>[49:30] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://english.yale.edu/undergraduate/why-major-english" target="_blank">English</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.sciencemag.org/" target="_blank">Science</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.mathsisfun.com/" target="_blank">Math</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/e/entrepreneur.asp" target="_blank">Entrepreneur</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch/0AJE4_Xo4ng" target="_blank">Amateur Architect</a></li><li>[49:51] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.britannica.com/" target="_blank">Encyclopedia Britannica</a></em></li><li>[50:12] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.google.com/" target="_blank">Googling</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.reviews.com/home/smart-home/best-voice-assistant/" target="_blank">Voice Assistants</a></li><li>[50:36] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ma9j5mi2pSs" target="_blank">Skittles Popcorn</a> on YouTube</li><li>[51:01] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://mars-itr.com/our-brands/skittles" target="_blank">Skittles</a></li><li>[51:41] Connect with Michele on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/michele-ronsen-0a55233" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a> and at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.curiositytank.com/" target="_blank">CuriosityTank.com</a></li><li>[51:53] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/linkedin-top-voices-2020-technology-john-c-abell" target="_blank">LinkedIn Top Voice</a></li><li>[52:28] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.curiositytank.com/resources" target="_blank">Bundle and Discount Code</a> coming soon</li></ul><ul><li>[52:43] What are Michele&#8217;s final thoughts</li><li>[53:03] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brRGE5hgkng" target="_blank">Cat-like Speed and Reflexes</a></li><li>[53:17] Subscribe to the <em style="color: var(--color); 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Email me at <a href="mailto:max&#64;&#109;a&#120;&#112;&#111;&#100;&#99;a&#115;&#116;&#105;&#110;g.co&#109;">m&#97;&#120;&#64;m&#97;&#120;&#112;od&#99;&#97;st&#105;&#110;&#103;&#46;&#99;o&#109;</a> to bring your podcast to life and use it as a business-building tool</li></ul><ul><li>Theme music: Freestyle Percussion Magik &#8211; Jungle Tribe &#8211; provided by Jamendo</li></ul></li></ul>



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<p>Wild ideas. Wild growth. Every Wednesday morning a new entrepreneur or innovator joins the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em> to share the crazy creative and unusual ways they grew their business, and provides tips for you to do it, too. Hear the woman who became the voice of Siri, the man who’s reinventing the sandcastle, how GaryVee’s partners are turning the wine world upside down, and more wild stories. Hosted by <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/about/" target="_blank">Max Branstetter</a> (that&#8217;s me), Founder and Podcast Producer at MaxPodcasting.</p>



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<p>Interested in starting a professional-sounding podcast for your brand, but don&#8217;t want to deal with the time commitment? I’ve got you covered. Email me at <a href="mailto:&#109;a&#120;&#64;m&#97;xp&#111;d&#99;&#97;&#115;&#116;&#105;ng&#46;co&#109;">m&#97;x&#64;&#109;&#97;&#120;&#112;&#111;&#100;ca&#115;t&#105;n&#103;.com</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool.</p>



<p>Thanks for listening to Michele Ronsen on the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast. </em>To hear more Wild stories like this one every Wednesday morning, subscribe to the <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">Wild Business Growth Podcast</a></em> and tell a friend about it. Until next time, Let your business Run Wild&#8230;and <em><strong>Bring on the Bongos!!</strong></em></p>
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