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		<title>Emily Vaca &#8211; Wild Business Growth Podcast #299: Designer Inflatable Pool, MINNIDIP Founder</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Emily Vaca, the Founder and CEO of MINNIDIP, joins the Wild Business Growth podcast to share her journey from living and breathing design to creating the original designer inflatable pool.]]></description>
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<p>Make a splash. That&#8217;s the story of this week&#8217;s <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth</em></a> podcast guest, Emily Vaca. Emily is the Founder and CEO of MINNIDIP. Listen to the episode on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wild-business-growth-podcast/id1422144338?mt=2" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6mSUsqYobBljhKIuK9sKJV" target="_blank">Spotify</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPJ7ovuCpHVg7SJchnF2BZg" target="_blank">YouTube</a>, and your other favorite <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">podcast platforms</a>.</p>



<ul><li><a href="#episode-summary">Episode Summary &amp; Player</a></li><li><a href="#full-transcript">Full Transcript</a></li><li><a href="#show-notes">Show Notes</a></li><li><a href="#podcast-summary"><em>Wild Business Growth </em>podcast Summary</a></li></ul>



<h2 id="episode-summary">Episode 299: Emily Vaca – Designer Inflatable Pool, MINNIDIP Founder</h2>



<p>Emily Vaca, the Founder and CEO of MINNIDIP, joins the show to share her journey from living and breathing design to creating the original designer inflatable pool. Hear how to find a manufacturer for your product, perfect your R&amp;D process, get distribution in major retailers, the most beautiful sight from a Chicago roof deck, and some zingers from the Queen of Puns. This episode covers everything from one-liners to Little Italy. Here&#8217;s a small sample of what you will hear in this episode:</p>



<ul><li>What gets Emily inspired about design</li><li>How did MINNIDIP get distribution in Target</li><li>What is RF Welding</li><li>How often does Emily make puns at work</li><li>What is a Balloon Garland</li><li>Where is Emily from in St. Louis</li><li>What&#8217;s her favorite pun of all time</li><li>Is it pronounced gyro or gyro</li></ul>



<p>Connect with Emily at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://minnidip.com/" target="_blank">MINNIDIP.com</a> and on Instagram <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/minnidip/" target="_blank">@MINNIDIP</a> and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/shoplavaca/" target="_blank">@ShopLaVaca</a>.</p>



<h2 id="full-transcript"></h2>



<p>Enjoy the shoooooow! Check out the show notes below for much more detail. You can also find the full transcript <a href="https://maxpodcasting.com/emily-vaca-transcript/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">here</a>.</p>



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<h2 id="show-notes"><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2>



<ul><li><strong>Intro &amp; Design</strong><ul><li>[0:25] Email me at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="mailto:m&#97;x&#64;h&#105;&#112;podire&#99;&#116;.co&#109;" target="_blank">&#109;&#97;x&#64;&#109;axp&#111;&#100;cas&#116;ing.&#99;o&#109;</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool</li><li>[0:34] Connect with Emily at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://minnidip.com/" target="_blank">MINNIDIP.com</a> and on Instagram <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/minnidip/" target="_blank">@MINNIDIP</a> and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/shoplavaca/" target="_blank">@ShopLaVaca</a></li><li>[2:12] The Queen of Puns!</li><li>[2:32] How do design and <a href="https://www.ideou.com/blogs/inspiration/what-is-design-thinking">design thinking</a> impact Emily&#8217;s daily life</li><li>[3:19] What gets her inspired about design</li><li>[3:40] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop.html" target="_blank">Photoshop</a></li><li>[4:39] How do you combine fine art and graphic design</li><li>[6:45] What projects has Emily done at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.lavaca.com/" target="_blank">La Vaca Designhouse</a></li></ul></li></ul>



<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-large is-resized"><img loading="lazy" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/SquadShot-Emily-Vaca-1024x538.png" alt="SquadShot Emily Vaca" class="wp-image-9332" width="702" height="369" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/SquadShot-Emily-Vaca-1024x538.png 1024w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/SquadShot-Emily-Vaca-400x210.png 400w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/SquadShot-Emily-Vaca-768x403.png 768w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/SquadShot-Emily-Vaca-500x263.png 500w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/SquadShot-Emily-Vaca-400x210@2x.png 800w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/SquadShot-Emily-Vaca.png 1200w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/SquadShot-Emily-Vaca-500x263@2x.png 1000w" sizes="(max-width: 702px) 100vw, 702px" /><figcaption>Va-ca! Va-ca!</figcaption></figure></div>



<ul><li><strong>The MINNIDIP Story</strong><ul><li>[9:56] Where did the idea for <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://minnidip.com/" target="_blank">MINNIDIP</a> come from</li><li>[10:51] Stock Tank</li><li>[14:05] How do you find a manufacturer for a new product</li><li>[14:18] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://andreasager.com/" target="_blank">IP</a> (Intellectual Property)</li><li>[15:55] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.rocketlawyer.com/business-and-contracts/intellectual-property/confidentiality-agreements/document/non-disclosure-agreement" target="_blank">NDA</a> (Non-Disclosure Agreement)</li><li>[16:45] Got her</li><li>[17:03] What is <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://markperi.com/resources/what-is-radio-frequency-welding/" target="_blank">RF Welding</a></li><li>[17:28] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://minnidip.com/" target="_blank">MINNIDIP.com</a></li><li>[18:01] What&#8217;s the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/randd.asp" target="_blank">R&amp;D</a> (Research &amp; Development) process for MINNIDIP</li><li>[20:25] What is a <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://minnidip.com/collections/balloon-garland" target="_blank">Balloon Garland</a></li><li>[21:47] Who knows</li><li>[22:51] Let&#8217;s goooooooo</li><li>[23:19] How did MINNIDIP get distribution in <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.target.com/b/minnidip/-/N-jhfnc" target="_blank">Target</a></li><li>[25:08] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://techcrunch.com/" target="_blank">Technology</a> (Tech)</li><li>[27:04] The <em>Wild Business Growth</em> podcast is on YouTube! <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/@maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Subscribe @MaxBranstetter</a> to watch full video interviews with Wild entrepreneurs like Emily</li></ul><ul><li>[27:05] Sign up for the <em>Podcasting to the Max</em> newsletter at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/newsletter/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/Newsletter</a> and receive <em>How to Edit Your Podcast in Audacity</em>. It&#8217;s where podcasting meets entrepreneurship &#8211; and terrible puns</li><li>[27:07] Such an honor speaking at Podcast Movement &#8217;23 in Denver! Sign up to grab the slides from my session at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/PM23/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/PM23</a></li></ul></li></ul>



<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-large is-resized"><img loading="lazy" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/Emily-Vaca-MINNIDIP-1024x683.jpg" alt="Emily Vaca MINNIDIP" class="wp-image-9334" width="679" height="453" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/Emily-Vaca-MINNIDIP-1024x683.jpg 1024w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/Emily-Vaca-MINNIDIP-400x267.jpg 400w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/Emily-Vaca-MINNIDIP-768x513.jpg 768w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/Emily-Vaca-MINNIDIP-500x334.jpg 500w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/Emily-Vaca-MINNIDIP-400x267@2x.jpg 800w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/Emily-Vaca-MINNIDIP-1280x854.jpg 1280w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/Emily-Vaca-MINNIDIP.jpg 1500w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/Emily-Vaca-MINNIDIP-500x334@2x.jpg 1000w" sizes="(max-width: 679px) 100vw, 679px" /><figcaption>Chi-Town MINNIDIP </figcaption></figure></div>



<ul><li><strong>The Punusual</strong><ul><li>[27:30] What&#8217;s Emily&#8217;s favorite pun of all time</li><li>[28:11] Does she make any Vaca puns</li><li>[29:15] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://krystalproffitt.com/" target="_blank">Krystal Proffitt</a> – <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/krystal-proffitt/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth</em> Podcast #203</a>: Binge-Worthy Strategist, Confident Content Creation</li><li>[29:30] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.thepoddyreport.com/" target="_blank">The Poddy Report</a></em></li><li>[29:45] How often does Emily make puns at work</li><li>[31:05] Oh boy</li></ul></li><li><strong>Rapid-Fire Q&amp;A</strong><ul><li>[31:45] What <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://minnidip.com/" target="_blank">MINNIDIP SKU</a> (Stock Keeping Unit) would Emily keep at her home</li><li>[33:32] That rhymes</li><li>[34:00] Where is Emily from in <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.hillstl.org/" target="_blank">St. Louis</a></li><li>[34:15] How is the St. Louis-Chicago sports rivalry</li><li>[35:02] Is it pronounced <a href="https://www.merkle.com/en/about-us/industry-expertise/b2b.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">gyro</a> or <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/gyrohsr/about/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">gyro</a></li><li>[35:36] What&#8217;s the most beautiful sight from a Chicago roof deck</li><li>[37:02] Connect with Emily at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://minnidip.com/" target="_blank">MINNIDIP.com</a> and on Instagram <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/minnidip/" target="_blank">@MINNIDIP</a> and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/shoplavaca/" target="_blank">@ShopLaVaca</a></li></ul><ul><li>[37:44] What are Emily&#8217;s Final Thoughts</li></ul><ul><li>[38:23] Follow the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth</em></a> podcast and tell a friend about the podcast. And show love (or roast me) by leaving 5 stars on Apple Podcasts and/or Spotify</li></ul><ul><li>[38:32] The <em>Wild Business Growth</em> podcast is on YouTube! <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/@maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Subscribe @MaxBranstetter</a> to watch full video interviews with Wild entrepreneurs like Emily</li></ul><ul><li>[38:51] Check out the <em>Wild Business Growth</em> podcast<em> </em>on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.goodpods.com/" target="_blank">Goodpods</a>, where you can see what your favorite people are listening to</li><li>[38:54] Connect with me on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/max-branstetter-74150a57/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/maxbranstetter/" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Twitter</a> (aka <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/maxbranstetter" target="_blank">X</a>), and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.threads.net/@maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Threads</a> @MaxBranstetter and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.tiktok.com/@wildbusinessgrowth" target="_blank">TikTok</a> @WildBusinessGrowth</li></ul><ul><li>[38:58] Save time with your high-quality podcast. Email me at <a href="mailto:&#109;a&#120;&#64;max&#112;o&#100;&#99;&#97;sti&#110;g&#46;co&#109;">&#109;&#97;x&#64;m&#97;&#120;&#112;&#111;d&#99;&#97;sting.c&#111;m</a> to bring your podcast to life and use it as a business-building tool</li><li>[39:03] Sign up for the <em>Podcasting to the Max</em> newsletter at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/newsletter/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/Newsletter</a> and receive <em>How to Edit Your Podcast in Audacity</em>. It&#8217;s where podcasting meets entrepreneurship &#8211; and terrible puns</li><li>Theme music: Freestyle Percussion Magik &#8211; &#8220;Jungle Tribe&#8221; &#8211; provided by Jamendo</li></ul></li></ul>



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<h2 id="podcast-summary"><strong>What is the <em>Wild Business Growth</em> podcast?</strong></h2>



<p>Wild ideas. Wild growth. Every Wednesday morning a new entrepreneur joins the <em>Wild Business Growth </em>podcast to share the wildly creative and unusual ways they grew their business &#8211; and teaches you how to do it, too. Hear the minds behind WordPress, Stacy&#8217;s Pita Chips, Drybar, NFL RedZone, Big Mouth Billy Bass, the voice of Bart Simpson, and more Wild stories. Hosted by <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/about/" target="_blank">Max Branstetter</a> (that&#8217;s me), Founder and Podcast Producer at MaxPodcasting.</p>



<h2><strong>How do you start a podcast?</strong></h2>



<p>Interested in starting a professional-sounding and professional-looking podcast for your brand, but don&#8217;t want to deal with the time commitment of all those behind-the-scenes details? I’ve got you covered. Email me at <a href="mailto:&#109;&#97;&#120;&#64;m&#97;&#120;po&#100;&#99;&#97;s&#116;&#105;ng&#46;c&#111;&#109;">m&#97;x&#64;&#109;a&#120;p&#111;dcast&#105;&#110;g&#46;&#99;&#111;m</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool.</p>



<p>Thanks for listening to Emily Vaca on the <em>Wild Business Growth</em> podcast.<em> </em>To hear more Wild stories like this one every Wednesday morning, follow the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth</em></a> podcast and tell a friend about it. And go MINNIDIP-ing with them. Until next time, Let your business Run Wild&#8230;and <strong><em>Bring on the Bongos!!</em></strong></p>
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		<title>Hilah Stahl &#8211; Wild Business Growth Podcast #294: Interior Design Producer, Co-Founder of Spoak</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Max Branstetter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jul 2024 07:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hilah Stahl, the Co-Founder and CEO of Spoak, joins the Wild Business Growth podcast to share her journey from working on bizarre reality TV shows to creating the easy online platform for interior design.]]></description>
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<p>Be a category definer. That&#8217;s the story of this week&#8217;s <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth</em></a> podcast guest, Hilah Stahl. Hilah is the Co-Founder and CEO of Spoak. Listen to the episode on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wild-business-growth-podcast/id1422144338?mt=2" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6mSUsqYobBljhKIuK9sKJV" target="_blank">Spotify</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPJ7ovuCpHVg7SJchnF2BZg" target="_blank">YouTube</a>, and your other favorite <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">podcast platforms</a>.</p>



<ul><li><a href="#episode-summary">Episode Summary &amp; Player</a></li><li><a href="#full-transcript">Full Transcript</a></li><li><a href="#show-notes">Show Notes</a></li><li><a href="#podcast-summary"><em>Wild Business Growth </em>podcast Summary</a></li></ul>



<h2 id="episode-summary">Episode 294: Hilah Stahl – Interior Design Producer, Co-Founder of Spoak</h2>



<p>Hilah Stahl, the Co-Founder and CEO of Spoak, joins the show to share her journey from working on bizarre reality TV shows to creating the easy online platform for interior design. Hear how to build software in a new category, identify the personas of your customers, recognize when to stop, load the dishwasher like Tetris, and the secret to making delicious maple syrup. This episode covers everything from interior design to <em>The Devil Wears Prada</em>. Here&#8217;s a small sample of what you will hear in this episode:</p>



<ul><li>What does a Production Coordinator do</li><li>Where did Hilah&#8217;s passion for interior design come from</li><li>How did she start Spoak at her wedding</li><li>What&#8217;s a big challenge she overcame in the business</li><li>How do you grow your user base</li><li>Where did the name Spoak come from</li><li>Eminem lyrics</li><li>That one tapas place in Barcelona</li></ul>



<p>Connect with Hilah at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.spoak.com/" target="_blank">Spoak.com</a>, on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/hilah-almog-stahl-7877033a" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a>, and on Instagram <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/hilahsthings/?hl=en" target="_blank">@HilahsThings</a> and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/spoak/" target="_blank">@Spoak</a>.</p>



<h2 id="full-transcript"></h2>



<p>Enjoy the shoooooow! Check out the show notes below for much more detail. You can also find the full transcript <a href="https://maxpodcasting.com/hilah-stahl-transcript/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">here</a>.</p>



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<h2 id="show-notes"><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2>



<ul><li><strong>Intro &amp; TLC International</strong><ul><li>[0:27] Email me at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="mailto:max&#64;&#104;ip&#112;od&#105;&#114;&#101;&#99;&#116;.c&#111;&#109;" target="_blank">ma&#120;&#64;m&#97;&#120;po&#100;ca&#115;t&#105;&#110;&#103;.com</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool</li><li>[0:37] Connect with Hilah at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.spoak.com/" target="_blank">Spoak.com</a>, on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/hilah-almog-stahl-7877033a" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a>, and on Instagram <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/hilahsthings/?hl=en" target="_blank">@HilahsThings</a> and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/spoak/" target="_blank">@Spoak</a></li><li>[2:26] When did she start <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.spoak.com/" target="_blank">Spoak</a></li><li>[2:39] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.irs.gov/businesses/small-businesses-self-employed/forming-a-corporation" target="_blank">C Corp</a> (C Corporation)</li><li>[3:09] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/jbauerfit/" target="_blank">Justin Bauer</a> &#8211; <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.hippodirect.com/blog/wild-business-growth-podcast-1-justin-bauer-wild-inventor-of-clip-grip-and-bakesplit/" target="_blank">Wild Business Growth podcast #1</a></em>:  Wild Inventor of Clip Grip and BakeSplit</li><li>[3:35] What did Hilah do at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.tlc.com/" target="_blank">TLC International</a></li><li>[4:04] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.discovery.com/" target="_blank">Discovery Channel</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.tlc.com/" target="_blank">TLC</a></li><li>[4:25] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2288050/" target="_blank">Here Comes Honey Boo Boo</a></em>, <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1809014/" target="_blank">My Strange Addiction</a></em></li><li>[4:53] <em><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4263818/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Body Bizarre</a></em></li><li>[6:17] What does a <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.screenskills.com/job-profiles/browse/film-and-tv-drama/production-management/production-coordinator-film-and-tv-drama/" target="_blank">Production Coordinator</a> do (PC)</li><li>[6:38] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD" target="_blank">DVD</a> (Digital Video Disc), <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_disc" target="_blank">CD</a> (Compact Disc), <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Blu-ray</a></li></ul></li></ul>



<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-large is-resized"><img loading="lazy" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/SquadShot-Hilah-Stahl-1024x538.png" alt="SquadShot Hilah Stahl" class="wp-image-9128" width="661" height="347" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/SquadShot-Hilah-Stahl-1024x538.png 1024w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/SquadShot-Hilah-Stahl-400x210.png 400w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/SquadShot-Hilah-Stahl-768x403.png 768w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/SquadShot-Hilah-Stahl-500x263.png 500w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/SquadShot-Hilah-Stahl-400x210@2x.png 800w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/SquadShot-Hilah-Stahl.png 1200w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/SquadShot-Hilah-Stahl-500x263@2x.png 1000w" sizes="(max-width: 661px) 100vw, 661px" /><figcaption>Spoak it into existence</figcaption></figure></div>



<ul><li><strong>The Spoak Story</strong><ul><li>[8:24] Where did Hilah&#8217;s passion for <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.spoak.com/" target="_blank">interior design</a> come from</li></ul><ul><li>[8:53] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://econ.duke.edu/" target="_blank">Econ</a> (Economics)</li><li>[9:18] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://eko.com/" target="_blank">Startup</a></li><li>[9:35] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://techcrunch.com/" target="_blank">Tech</a> (Technology)</li><li>[9:57] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.gilt.com/" target="_blank">GILT</a></li><li>[10:05] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://bonobos.com/" target="_blank">BONOBOS</a> (foreshadowing)</li><li>[12:37] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">Entrepreneurs</a></li><li>[12:45] How do you build software in a new space</li><li>[13:12] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.productplan.com/glossary/minimum-viable-product/" target="_blank">MVP</a> (Minimum Viable Product)</li><li>[13:18] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.spoak.com/team/john-kenny" target="_blank">John Kenny</a></li><li>[13:48] How did Hilah start Spoak at her wedding</li><li>[15:01] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regis_Philbin" target="_blank">Regis Philbin</a></li><li>[15:09] Stephen Lease – <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/stephen-lease/" target="_blank">Wild Business Growth podcast #291</a></em>: Sunglasses Spirit Animal, Co-Founder of <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://goodr.com/" target="_blank">goodr</a></li><li>[15:47] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.britannica.com/place/Mount-Everest" target="_blank">Mount Everest</a></li><li>[16:18] What&#8217;s a big challenge Hilah overcame in the business</li><li>[16:37] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/b/bootstrapping.asp" target="_blank">Bootstrapping</a></li><li>[16:49] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revenue" target="_blank">Revenue</a></li><li>[17:15] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/b/budget.asp" target="_blank">Budget</a></li><li>[18:27] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0268978/" target="_blank">A Beautiful Mind</a></em></li><li>[18:51] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.visitberlin.de/en" target="_blank">Berlin</a>, Germany</li><li>[20:11] What is Spoak&#8217;s main differentiator</li><li>[20:18] What just happened</li><li>[22:18] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.kpi.org/kpi-basics/" target="_blank">KPI</a> (Key Performance Indicator)</li><li>[22:28] What&#8217;s a tweak Hilah made that got positive feedback from her customers</li><li>[25:35] Catergory</li><li>[25:46] How do you find the key personas of your target customer</li><li>[26:35] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.anthropologie.com/" target="_blank">ANTHROPOLOGIE</a></li><li>[27:50] How do you grow your user base</li><li>[27:55] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.spoak.com/team/isalyn-connell" target="_blank">Isalyn Connell</a></li><li>[28:47] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.socialmediaexaminer.com/" target="_blank">Social Media</a></li><li>[29:05] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://searchengineland.com/guide/what-is-seo" target="_blank">SEO</a> (Search Engine Optimization), <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.google.com/" target="_blank">Google</a></li><li>[29:28] Stahl like Bathroom Stall</li><li>[29:35] Where did the name Spoak come from</li><li>[30:02] So many puns we Spoak of</li><li>[30:29] The <em>Wild Business Growth</em> podcast is on YouTube! <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/@maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Subscribe @MaxBranstetter</a> to watch full video interviews with Wild entrepreneurs like Hilah</li></ul><ul><li>[30:30] Sign up for the <em>Podcasting to the Max</em> newsletter at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/newsletter/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/Newsletter</a> and receive <em>How to Edit Your Podcast in Audacity</em>. It&#8217;s where podcasting meets entrepreneurship &#8211; and terrible puns</li><li>[31:18] Such an honor speaking at Podcast Movement &#8217;23 in Denver! Sign up to grab the slides from my session at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/PM23/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/PM23</a></li></ul></li></ul>



<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-large is-resized"><img loading="lazy" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Spoak-Hilah-Stahl-1024x576.png" alt="Spoak Hilah Stahl" class="wp-image-9131" width="657" height="369" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Spoak-Hilah-Stahl-1024x576.png 1024w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Spoak-Hilah-Stahl-400x225.png 400w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Spoak-Hilah-Stahl-768x432.png 768w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Spoak-Hilah-Stahl-500x281.png 500w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Spoak-Hilah-Stahl-400x225@2x.png 800w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Spoak-Hilah-Stahl-1280x720.png 1280w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Spoak-Hilah-Stahl.png 1400w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/Spoak-Hilah-Stahl-500x281@2x.png 1000w" sizes="(max-width: 657px) 100vw, 657px" /><figcaption>This is what she Spoak of</figcaption></figure></div>



<ul><li><strong>The Unusual: Pet Peeves, Quirks, and Weird Talents</strong><ul><li>[31:40] What&#8217;s a quirk Hilah has</li><li>[32:26] &#8220;<a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PjZAeiU7uM" target="_blank">Gird your loins!</a>&#8221; by <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001804/" target="_blank">Stanley Tucci</a> in <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0458352/" target="_blank">The Devil Wears Prada</a></em></li><li>[32:43] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2019/01/17/where-millennials-end-and-generation-z-begins/" target="_blank">Millennials</a></li><li>[32:51] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.cnn.com/shows/stanley-tucci-searching-for-italy" target="_blank">Searching for Italy</a></em></li><li>[33:02] What&#8217;s a Weird Talent Hilah has</li><li>[33:13] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://tetris.com/play-tetris" target="_blank">Tetris</a></em></li><li>[34:00] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.eminem.com/" target="_blank">Eminem</a>, &#8220;<a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Yhyp-_hX2s" target="_blank">Lose Yourself</a>&#8221; by Eminem, &#8220;<a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVkUvmDQ3HY" target="_blank">Without Me</a>&#8221; by Eminem</li><li>[34:29] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Marshall_Mathers_LP" target="_blank">The Marshall Mathers LP</a></em></li><li>[34:45] What&#8217;s Hilah&#8217;s biggest pet peeve</li><li>[34:51] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/24460-misophonia" target="_blank">Misophonia</a></li><li>[35:18] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.vmware.com/topics/glossary/content/remote-work.html" target="_blank">Remote Work</a></li></ul></li><li><strong>Rapid-Fire Q&amp;A</strong><ul><li>[35:58] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071853/" target="_blank">Monty Python and the Holy Grail</a></em></li><li>[36:44] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://sagradafamilia.org/en/" target="_blank">Sagrada Familia</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://parkguell.barcelona/en?q=en" target="_blank">Parc Güell</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Rambla,_Barcelona" target="_blank">La Rambla</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gothic_Quarter,_Barcelona" target="_blank">Gothic Quarter</a> (Barri Gòtic), <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.barcelona-tourist-guide.com/en/areas/el-born.html" target="_blank">El Born</a></li><li>[38:15] Shoutout, Cody &amp; Laine!</li><li>[38:24] True</li><li>[38:12] What&#8217;s something about Duke University most people would be surprised by</li><li>[38:28] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.durhamnc.gov/" target="_blank">Durham</a>, NC, <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094812/" target="_blank">Bull Durham</a></em></li><li>[39:08] What&#8217;s the best part about living in the <a href="https://travelhudsonvalley.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Hudson Valley</a></li><li>[40:16] What&#8217;s the secret to making great maple syrup</li><li>[40:29] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0247745/" target="_blank">Super Troopers</a></em></li><li>[42:31] Woooooah</li><li>[42:45] Connect with Hilah at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.spoak.com/" target="_blank">Spoak.com</a>, on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/hilah-almog-stahl-7877033a" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a>, and on Instagram <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/hilahsthings/?hl=en" target="_blank">@HilahsThings</a> and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/spoak/" target="_blank">@Spoak</a></li></ul><ul><li>[43:20] What are Hilah&#8217;s Final Thoughts</li></ul><ul><li>[43:54] Follow the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth</em></a> podcast and tell a friend about the podcast. And show love (or roast me) by leaving 5 stars on Apple Podcasts and/or Spotify</li></ul><ul><li>[44:04] The <em>Wild Business Growth</em> podcast is on YouTube! <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/@maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Subscribe @MaxBranstetter</a> to watch full video interviews with Wild entrepreneurs like Hilah</li></ul><ul><li>[44:16] Check out the <em>Wild Business Growth</em> podcast<em> </em>on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.goodpods.com/" target="_blank">Goodpods</a>, where you can see what your favorite people are listening to</li><li>[44:20] Connect with me on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/max-branstetter-74150a57/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/maxbranstetter/" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Twitter</a> (aka <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/maxbranstetter" target="_blank">X</a>), and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.threads.net/@maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Threads</a> @MaxBranstetter and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.tiktok.com/@wildbusinessgrowth" target="_blank">TikTok</a> @WildBusinessGrowth</li></ul><ul><li>[44:23] Save time with your high-quality podcast. Email me at <a href="mailto:m&#97;&#120;&#64;m&#97;x&#112;o&#100;&#99;a&#115;t&#105;n&#103;&#46;co&#109;">ma&#120;&#64;&#109;a&#120;&#112;o&#100;c&#97;sti&#110;&#103;.c&#111;m</a> to bring your podcast to life and use it as a business-building tool</li><li>[44:28] Sign up for the <em>Podcasting to the Max</em> newsletter at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/newsletter/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/Newsletter</a> and receive <em>How to Edit Your Podcast in Audacity</em>. It&#8217;s where podcasting meets entrepreneurship &#8211; and terrible puns</li><li>Theme music: Freestyle Percussion Magik &#8211; &#8220;Jungle Tribe&#8221; &#8211; provided by Jamendo</li></ul></li></ul>



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<h2 id="podcast-summary"><strong>What is the <em>Wild Business Growth</em> podcast?</strong></h2>



<p>Wild ideas. Wild growth. Every Wednesday morning a new entrepreneur joins the <em>Wild Business Growth </em>podcast to share the wildly creative and unusual ways they grew their business &#8211; and teaches you how to do it, too. Hear the minds behind WordPress, Stacy&#8217;s Pita Chips, Drybar, NFL RedZone, Big Mouth Billy Bass, the voice of Bart Simpson, and more Wild stories. Hosted by <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/about/" target="_blank">Max Branstetter</a> (that&#8217;s me), Founder and Podcast Producer at MaxPodcasting.</p>



<h2><strong>How do you start a podcast?</strong></h2>



<p>Interested in starting a professional-sounding and professional-looking podcast for your brand, but don&#8217;t want to deal with the time commitment of all those behind-the-scenes details? I’ve got you covered. Email me at <a href="mailto:max&#64;&#109;&#97;&#120;&#112;o&#100;cast&#105;n&#103;&#46;com">&#109;a&#120;&#64;&#109;axp&#111;d&#99;asti&#110;&#103;&#46;&#99;o&#109;</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool.</p>



<p>Thanks for listening to Hilah Stahl on the <em>Wild Business Growth</em> podcast.<em> </em>To hear more Wild stories like this one every Wednesday morning, follow the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth</em></a> podcast and tell a friend about it. And Spoak it up with them. Until next time, Let your business Run Wild&#8230;and <strong><em>Bring on the Bongos!!</em></strong></p>
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		<title>Sam Rosen &#8211; Wild Business Growth Podcast #287: Coworking Space Pioneer, Co-Founder of Deskpass</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2024 09:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sam Rosen, the Co-Founder and CEO of Deskpass, joins the Wild Business Growth  podcast to share his journey from starting a rollerblading delivery service growing up to making coworking spaces easier to reserve than ever.]]></description>
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<p>Turn the on/off light switch into a dimmer. That&#8217;s the story of this week&#8217;s <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth</em></a> podcast guest, Sam Rosen. Sam is the Co-Founder and CEO of Deskpass. Listen to the episode on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wild-business-growth-podcast/id1422144338?mt=2" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6mSUsqYobBljhKIuK9sKJV" target="_blank">Spotify</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPJ7ovuCpHVg7SJchnF2BZg" target="_blank">YouTube</a>, and your other favorite <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">podcast platforms</a>.</p>



<ul><li><a href="#episode-summary">Episode Summary &amp; Player</a></li><li><a href="#full-transcript">Full Transcript</a></li><li><a href="#show-notes">Show Notes</a></li><li><a href="#podcast-summary"><em>Wild Business Growth </em>podcast Summary</a></li></ul>



<h2 id="episode-summary">Episode 287: Sam Rosen – Coworking Space Pioneer, Co-Founder of Deskpass</h2>



<p>Sam Rosen, the Co-Founder and CEO of Deskpass, joins the show to share his journey from starting a rollerblading delivery service growing up to making coworking spaces easier to reserve than ever. Hear how he started the first coworking space in Chicago, the most creative coworking spaces, how to manage thousands of customers, his favorite lessons from his creative parents, and the best things to do in the Chicago River. This episode covers everything from beat poetry to <em>Grace and Frankie</em>. Here&#8217;s a small sample of what you will hear in this episode:</p>



<ul><li>What other businesses did Sam start growing up</li><li><em>Pure Truth</em>:<em> New Edition</em> by Sam Rosen</li><li>What were the early days of coworking like</li><li>How do you start a coworking space</li><li>Thumbs up!</li><li>What&#8217;s the story behind Sam&#8217;s mom&#8217;s paintings</li><li>That&#8217;s why you ask 1 question at a time, Max</li><li>A triple entendre</li></ul>



<p>Connect with Sam at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.sammyrosen.com/" target="_blank">SammyRosen.com</a> and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.deskpass.com/" target="_blank">Deskpass.com</a>.</p>



<h2 id="full-transcript"></h2>



<p>Enjoy the shoooooow! Check out the show notes below for much more detail. You can also find the full transcript <a href="https://maxpodcasting.com/sam-rosen-transcript/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">here</a>.</p>



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<h2 id="show-notes"><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2>



<ul><li><strong>Intro &amp; Serial Entrepreneurship</strong><ul><li>[0:35] Email me at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="mailto:m&#97;x&#64;&#104;i&#112;po&#100;i&#114;e&#99;&#116;.&#99;&#111;&#109;" target="_blank">&#109;a&#120;&#64;&#109;a&#120;&#112;od&#99;ast&#105;&#110;g.&#99;&#111;m</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool</li><li>[0:45] Connect with Sam at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.sammyrosen.com/" target="_blank">SammyRosen.com</a> and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.deskpass.com/" target="_blank">Deskpass.com</a></li></ul><ul><li>[2:15] Shoutout, the Rozens!</li><li>[2:39] What was Sam&#8217;s rollerblading delivery service</li><li>[3:14] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.lincolnwoodil.org/" target="_blank">Lincolnwood, IL</a></li><li>[3:31] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.uber.com/" target="_blank">Uber</a></li><li>[3:52] Why didn&#8217;t that business work out</li><li>[4:20] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086960/" target="_blank">Beverly Hills Cop</a></em> (wrong reference)</li><li>[4:45] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.lego.com/" target="_blank">LEGO</a></li><li>[5:02] What other businesses did Sam start growing up</li><li>[5:18] <em>Pure Truth</em> by Sam Rosen</li><li>[5:54] <em>Pure Truth</em>:<em> New Edition</em> by Sam Rosen</li><li>[6:07] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="http://www.healingearthresources.com/" target="_blank">Healing Earth Resources</a></li><li>[6:11] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.fender.com/en-US/sunburst-finishes/" target="_blank">Fender Sunburst Guitar</a> (Starburst)</li><li>[6:27] How did Sam get into <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/collections/147552/an-introduction-to-the-beat-poets" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">beat poetry</a></li></ul></li></ul>



<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-large is-resized"><img loading="lazy" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Thumbs-Up-Sam-Rosen.jpg" alt="Thumbs up!" class="wp-image-8880" width="690" height="383" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Thumbs-Up-Sam-Rosen.jpg 872w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Thumbs-Up-Sam-Rosen-400x222.jpg 400w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Thumbs-Up-Sam-Rosen-768x426.jpg 768w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Thumbs-Up-Sam-Rosen-500x278.jpg 500w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Thumbs-Up-Sam-Rosen-400x222@2x.jpg 800w" sizes="(max-width: 690px) 100vw, 690px" /><figcaption>When you forget to turn Reactions off</figcaption></figure></div>



<ul><li><strong>The Deskpass Story</strong><ul><li>[7:51] What were the early days of coworking like</li><li>[8:01] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.sammyrosen.com/" target="_blank">The Coop</a></li><li>[8:07] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.onedesigncompany.com/" target="_blank">One Design Company</a></li><li>[8:50] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.wi-fi.org/home-page" target="_blank">Wi-Fi</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.techtarget.com/whatis/definition/latency" target="_blank">Latency</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.audimute.com/" target="_blank">Soundproofing</a></li><li>[9:41] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2019/01/17/where-millennials-end-and-generation-z-begins/" target="_blank">Millennial</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">Entrepreneur</a></li><li>[9:51] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.rabbitholerestaurant.com/" target="_blank">Rabbithole</a></li><li>[10:01] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.britannica.com/technology/Internet" target="_blank">Internet</a></li><li>[10:32] Shoutout, Noah!</li><li>[10:41] What is <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coworking" target="_blank">Coworking</a></li><li>[11:02] The Change You Want to See</li><li>[12:45] Oh boy</li><li>[13:24] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">Podcast Guests</a></li><li>[13:31] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.google.com/" target="_blank">Google</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coworking" target="_blank">Wikipedia</a></li><li>[13:42] How do you start a coworking space</li><li>[14:01] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://charles-adler.com/" target="_blank">Charles Adler</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.kickstarter.com/?country=US" target="_blank">Kickstarter</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Graves_(businessman)" target="_blank">Ryan Graves</a>, <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.007.com/" target="_blank">James Bond</a></em></li><li>[14:09] Ha!</li><li>[15:20] Where did the idea for <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.deskpass.com/" target="_blank">Deskpass</a> come from</li><li>[16:18] Math!</li><li>[16:54] Great question</li><li>[17:25] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.deskpass.com/" target="_blank">Deskpass Website</a></li><li>[17:59] How do most people use Deskpass today</li><li>[18:18] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://whatfix.com/blog/technology-adoption-curve/" target="_blank">Adoption Curve</a></li><li>[18:38] TRONCH</li><li>[19:46] Shoutout, Judy!</li><li>[20:24] What are some well-known Deskpass clients</li><li>[20:43] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.synchrony.com/" target="_blank">Synchrony</a> Financial, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.goodrx.com/" target="_blank">GoodRx</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.gsa.gov/" target="_blank">GSA</a> (General Services Administration), <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.usgs.gov/" target="_blank">USGS</a> (United States Geological Survey)</li><li>[21:10] What does <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://rockcontent.com/blog/icp-vs-persona/" target="_blank">ICP</a> mean (Ideal Customer Profile)</li><li>[21:40] How do you attract new customers</li><li>[22:30] The Lightswitch Analogy</li><li>[22:38] Thumbs up! (see above)</li><li>[22:50] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://about.meta.com/metaverse/" target="_blank">Metaverse </a></li><li>[24:21] How do you manage thousands of coworking spaces</li><li>[24:57] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://techcrunch.com/" target="_blank">Technology</a> (Tech)</li><li>[25:02] That&#8217;s why you ask 1 question at a time, Max</li><li>[25:32] How does Deskpass find coworking spaces</li><li>[25:52] Shoutout, H&#8217;boken! (<a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.hobokengirl.com/" target="_blank">Hoboken</a>)</li><li>[26:42] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.industriousoffice.com/" target="_blank">Industrious</a></li><li>[26:58] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/revenue.asp" target="_blank">Revenue</a></li></ul><ul><li>[27:20] The <em>Wild Business Growth</em> podcast is on YouTube! <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/@maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Subscribe @MaxBranstetter</a> to watch full video interviews with Wild entrepreneurs like Sam</li></ul><ul><li>[27:58] Sign up for the <em>Podcasting to the Max</em> newsletter at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/newsletter/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/Newsletter</a> and receive <em>How to Edit Your Podcast in Audacity</em>. It&#8217;s where podcasting meets entrepreneurship &#8211; and terrible puns</li></ul><ul><li>[28:00] Such an honor speaking at Podcast Movement &#8217;23 in Denver! Sign up to grab the slides from my session at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/PM23/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/PM23</a></li></ul></li></ul>



<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-large is-resized"><img loading="lazy" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Deskpass-1024x286.png" alt="Deskpass" class="wp-image-8882" width="648" height="181" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Deskpass-1024x286.png 1024w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Deskpass-400x112.png 400w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Deskpass-768x214.png 768w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Deskpass-500x140.png 500w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Deskpass-400x112@2x.png 800w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Deskpass-1280x357.png 1280w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Deskpass-1920x536.png 1920w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Deskpass-768x214@2x.png 1536w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Deskpass.png 2000w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Deskpass-500x140@2x.png 1000w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Deskpass-800x223@2x.png 1600w" sizes="(max-width: 648px) 100vw, 648px" /></figure></div>



<ul><li><strong>Inspiration &amp; Creativity: Lessons from Sam&#8217;s Creative Parents</strong><ul><li>[28:42] What&#8217;s the story behind Sam&#8217;s mom&#8217;s paintings (<a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.nrosen.com/pages/grace-frankie" target="_blank">Nancy Rosen</a>)</li><li>[29:14] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3609352/" target="_blank">Grace and Frankie</a></em>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80017537" target="_blank">Netflix</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005499/" target="_blank">Lily Tomlin</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.janefonda.com/" target="_blank">Jane Fonda</a></li><li>[30;08] Shoutout, Dana!</li><li>[30:23] &#8220;<a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5262554/" target="_blank">The Art Show</a>&#8220;</li><li>[30:34] Bazinga</li><li>[30:38] What commercials did Sam&#8217;s dad direct and produce</li><li>[31:11] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuTF08iYx2k" target="_blank">Michael Jordan Chevy Blazer Commercial</a></li><li>[31:42] Did Sam&#8217;s dad get to meet <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Jordan" target="_blank">Michael Jordan</a></li><li>[32:00] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.ispot.tv/topic/athlete/Ldh/cal-ripken-jr" target="_blank">Cal Ripken, Jr.</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://baseballhall.org/hall-of-famers/cox-bobby" target="_blank">Bobby Cox</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Smoltz" target="_blank">John Smoltz</a></li><li>[32:08] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.mlb.com/braves/" target="_blank">Atlanta Braves</a></li><li>[32:15] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.galottery.com/en-us/winning-numbers.html" target="_blank">Atlanta Lottery</a> (Georgia Lottery)</li><li>[32:51] What&#8217;s the most important lesson Sam learned from his parents about creativity and entrepreneurship </li><li>[34:21] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.solonohio.org/" target="_blank">Solon, OH</a></li></ul></li><li><strong>Rapid-Fire Q&amp;A</strong><ul><li>[35:12] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.rengateichicago.com/" target="_blank">Renga-Tei</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.lulacafe.com/" target="_blank">Lula Cafe</a></li></ul><ul><li>[35:56] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.furniturecoworking.com/" target="_blank">Furniture Creative Coworking</a></li><li>[36:54] How do you have a successful long-term relationship</li><li>[38:35] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.architecture.org/tours/detail/chicago-architecture-center-river-cruise-aboard-chicago-s-first-lady/" target="_blank">Chicago Architecture River Cruise Aboard Chicago&#8217;s First Lady</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.chicago.gov/city/en/sites/chicagoriverwalk/home.html.html" target="_blank">Chicago Riverwalk</a></li><li>[39:22] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.groupon.com/deals/chicago-electric-boat-company-1-3" target="_blank">Groupon Electric Boat Chicago</a></li><li>[39:54] Shoutout, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/maxbranstetter/p/CvddhEXJ6mP/?img_index=2" target="_blank">Spense</a>!</li><li>[40:38] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://breather.com/" target="_blank">Breather</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.industriousoffice.com/" target="_blank">Industrious</a></li><li>[42:53] Connect with Sam at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.sammyrosen.com/" target="_blank">SammyRosen.com</a> and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.deskpass.com/" target="_blank">Deskpass.com</a></li></ul><ul><li>[43:56] What are Sam&#8217;s Final Thoughts</li><li>[44:28] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.azquotes.com/quote/1447875" target="_blank">Branch Rickey Quote </a></li></ul><ul><li>[45:08] Follow the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth</em></a> podcast and tell a friend about the podcast. And show love (or roast me) by leaving 5 stars on Apple Podcasts and/or Spotify</li></ul><ul><li>[45:19] The <em>Wild Business Growth</em> podcast is on YouTube! <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/@maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Subscribe @MaxBranstetter</a> to watch full video interviews with Wild entrepreneurs like Sam</li></ul><ul><li>[45:34] Check out the <em>Wild Business Growth</em> podcast<em> </em>on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.goodpods.com/" target="_blank">Goodpods</a>, where you can see what your favorite people are listening to</li><li>[45:35] Connect with me on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/max-branstetter-74150a57/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/maxbranstetter/" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Twitter</a> (aka <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/maxbranstetter" target="_blank">X</a>), and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.threads.net/@maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Threads</a> @MaxBranstetter and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.tiktok.com/@wildbusinessgrowth" target="_blank">TikTok</a> @WildBusinessGrowth</li></ul><ul><li>[45:38] Save time with your high-quality podcast. Email me at <a href="mailto:&#109;&#97;x&#64;&#109;&#97;&#120;po&#100;&#99;as&#116;in&#103;&#46;com">&#109;&#97;&#120;&#64;&#109;&#97;&#120;&#112;o&#100;&#99;&#97;&#115;tin&#103;.&#99;&#111;m</a> to bring your podcast to life and use it as a business-building tool</li><li>[45:43] Sign up for the <em>Podcasting to the Max</em> newsletter at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/newsletter/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/Newsletter</a> and receive <em>How to Edit Your Podcast in Audacity</em>. It&#8217;s where podcasting meets entrepreneurship &#8211; and terrible puns</li><li>Theme music: Freestyle Percussion Magik &#8211; &#8220;Jungle Tribe&#8221; &#8211; provided by Jamendo</li></ul></li></ul>



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<h2 id="podcast-summary"><strong>What is the <em>Wild Business Growth</em> podcast?</strong></h2>



<p>Wild ideas. Wild growth. Every Wednesday morning a new entrepreneur joins the <em>Wild Business Growth </em>podcast to share the wildly creative and unusual ways they grew their business &#8211; and teaches you how to do it, too. Hear the minds behind WordPress, Stacy&#8217;s Pita Chips, Drybar, NFL RedZone, Big Mouth Billy Bass, the voice of Bart Simpson, and more Wild stories. Hosted by <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/about/" target="_blank">Max Branstetter</a> (that&#8217;s me), Founder and Podcast Producer at MaxPodcasting.</p>



<h2><strong>How do you start a podcast?</strong></h2>



<p>Interested in starting a professional-sounding podcast for your brand, but don&#8217;t want to deal with the time commitment of all those behind-the-scenes details? I’ve got you covered. Email me at <a href="mailto:max&#64;&#109;axp&#111;&#100;&#99;&#97;&#115;ti&#110;g&#46;&#99;o&#109;">&#109;&#97;x&#64;maxp&#111;dcast&#105;n&#103;.&#99;&#111;&#109;</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool.</p>



<p>Thanks for listening to Sam Rosen on the <em>Wild Business Growth</em> podcast.<em> </em>To hear more Wild stories like this one every Wednesday morning, follow the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth</em></a> podcast and tell a friend about it. And become rock out on Deskpass with them. Until next time, Let your business Run Wild&#8230;and <strong><em>Bring on the Bongos!!</em></strong></p>
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		<title>Clement Mok &#8211; Wild Business Growth Podcast #268: First-Mover Advantage, Dynamic Designer</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2024 03:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Clement Mok, the Legendary Designer and Serial Entrepreneur, joins the Wild Business Growth Podcast to share his journey from the early days of Apple to disrupting image libraries, web design, and restaurants.]]></description>
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<p>Where could you benefit from diving into a new space before the majority of people have? That&#8217;s the story of this week&#8217;s <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em></a> guest, Clement Mok. Clement is a Legendary Designer and Serial Entrepreneur. Listen to the episode on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wild-business-growth-podcast/id1422144338?mt=2" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6mSUsqYobBljhKIuK9sKJV" target="_blank">Spotify</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPJ7ovuCpHVg7SJchnF2BZg" target="_blank">YouTube</a>, and your other favorite <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">podcast platforms</a>.</p>



<ul><li><a href="#episode-summary">Episode Summary &amp; Player</a></li><li><a href="#full-transcript">Full Transcript</a></li><li><a href="#show-notes">Show Notes</a></li><li><a href="#podcast-summary"><em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em> Summary</a></li></ul>



<h2 id="episode-summary">Episode 268: Clement Mok – First-Mover Advantage, Dynamic Designer</h2>



<p>Clement Mok, the Legendary Designer and Serial Entrepreneur, joins the show to share his journey from the early days of Apple to disrupting image libraries, web design, and restaurants. Hear his top lessons from Apple, how to attack complex problems, why you should ask why, what SUGARFISH and other top restaurants do best, and the most unique food he’s tried. This episode covers everything from stock photos to sushi. Here&#8217;s a small sample of what you will hear in this episode:</p>



<ul><li>How did Clement work on links before the Internet existed</li><li>Why did he get into the restaurant industry</li><li>How did he start the first royalty-free image library</li><li>Do different types of restaurants operate differently</li><li>How did Clement get into the digital design space</li><li>What&#8217;s the biggest adjustment moving from NYC to California</li><li>Jersey Diners</li><li>What&#8217;s the biggest lesson Clement learned working with Steve Jobs</li></ul>



<p>Connect with Clement at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://clementmok.com/" target="_blank">ClementMok.com</a>.</p>



<h2 id="full-transcript"></h2>



<p>Enjoy the shoooooow! Check out the show notes below for much more detail. You can also find the full transcript <a href="https://maxpodcasting.com/clement-mok-transcript/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">here</a>.</p>



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<h2 id="show-notes"><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2>



<ul><li><strong>Intro &amp; Apple</strong><ul><li>[0:35] Email me at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="mailto:m&#97;x&#64;hip&#112;&#111;&#100;&#105;rec&#116;&#46;c&#111;&#109;" target="_blank">&#109;&#97;x&#64;ma&#120;p&#111;&#100;c&#97;s&#116;&#105;ng&#46;com</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool</li><li>[0:44] Connect with Clement at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://clementmok.com/" target="_blank">ClementMok.com</a></li></ul><ul><li>[2:07] The All-Time Designer!</li><li>[2:25] That&#8217;s a guarantee</li><li>[2:46] What were the early days of <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.apple.com/" target="_blank">Apple</a> like</li><li>[3:04] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_(computer)" target="_blank">Macintosh</a> (Mac)</li><li>[3:19] Apple Headquarters, Cupertino, CA</li><li>[3:48] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://corporatefinanceinstitute.com/resources/career/what-is-a-ceo-chief-executive-officer/" target="_blank">CEO</a> (Chief Executive Officer), <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.apple.com/stevejobs/" target="_blank">Steve Jobs</a></li><li>[4:29] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Valley" target="_blank">Silicon Valley</a></li><li>[4:37] What did Clement learn from his time at Apple</li><li>[4:42] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kool-Aid" target="_blank">Kool-Aid</a></li><li>[5:35] How did he work on links before the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.britannica.com/technology/Internet" target="_blank">Internet</a> existed</li><li>[5:50] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.apple.com/education/" target="_blank">Apple Education</a></li><li>[6:01] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyperCard" target="_blank">HyperCard</a></li><li>[7:02] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.techtarget.com/searchapparchitecture/definition/user-interface-UI" target="_blank">User Interface</a> (UI)</li><li>[7:10] Did they use the term &#8220;link&#8221; back then (shoutout the links in this blog post)</li><li>[7:20] <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Atkinson" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Bill Atkinson</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Lisa" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Apple Lisa</a></li><li>[7:31] Robert Brunner – <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/robert-brunner/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em> #255</a>: Beats by Dre Designer, Founder of <a href="https://ammunitiongroup.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Ammunition</a></li><li>[7:53] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088763/" target="_blank">Back to the Future</a></em> </li></ul></li></ul>



<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-large is-resized"><img loading="lazy" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Clement-Mok-First-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-268-First-Mover-Advantage-Dynamic-Designer-1024x305.jpg" alt="Clement Mok - Wild Business Growth Podcast #268 First-Mover Advantage, Dynamic Designer" class="wp-image-8161" width="782" height="232" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Clement-Mok-First-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-268-First-Mover-Advantage-Dynamic-Designer-1024x305.jpg 1024w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Clement-Mok-First-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-268-First-Mover-Advantage-Dynamic-Designer-400x119.jpg 400w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Clement-Mok-First-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-268-First-Mover-Advantage-Dynamic-Designer-768x228.jpg 768w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Clement-Mok-First-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-268-First-Mover-Advantage-Dynamic-Designer-500x149.jpg 500w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Clement-Mok-First-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-268-First-Mover-Advantage-Dynamic-Designer-400x119@2x.jpg 800w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Clement-Mok-First-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-268-First-Mover-Advantage-Dynamic-Designer-1280x381.jpg 1280w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Clement-Mok-First-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-268-First-Mover-Advantage-Dynamic-Designer-1920x571.jpg 1920w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Clement-Mok-First-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-268-First-Mover-Advantage-Dynamic-Designer-768x228@2x.jpg 1536w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Clement-Mok-First-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-268-First-Mover-Advantage-Dynamic-Designer-1024x305@2x.jpg 2048w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Clement-Mok-First-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-268-First-Mover-Advantage-Dynamic-Designer-500x149@2x.jpg 1000w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Clement-Mok-First-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-268-First-Mover-Advantage-Dynamic-Designer-800x238@2x.jpg 1600w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Clement-Mok-First-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-268-First-Mover-Advantage-Dynamic-Designer-1280x381@2x.jpg 2560w" sizes="(max-width: 782px) 100vw, 782px" /><figcaption>Behind-the-scenes with Clement</figcaption></figure></div>



<ul><li><strong>First-Mover Advantage &amp; Design</strong><ul><li>[8:25] How did Clement start <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://clementmok.com/cmcd/" target="_blank">the first royalty-free image library</a></li><li>[8:49] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.coursera.org/articles/what-does-a-product-manager-do" target="_blank">Product Manager</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">Startups</a></li><li>[9:09] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.techtarget.com/whatis/definition/desktop-publishing#:~:text=Desktop%20publishing%20(DTP)%20is%20the,ink%20jet%20or%20laser%20printers." target="_blank">Desktop Publishing</a> (DTP), <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.digitalcameraworld.com/buying-guides/best-monitor-calibrators" target="_blank">Color Calibrators</a></li><li>[9:38] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://licensinginternational.org/education/what-is-licensing/" target="_blank">Licensing</a></li><li>[9:50] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-business-schools/mba-rankings" target="_blank">B-School</a> (Business School)</li><li>[10:40] How do you attack a complex problem at a reasonable pace</li><li>[12:04] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://clementmok.com/netobjects/" target="_blank">NetObjects</a></li><li>[12:18] How did Clement get into the digital design space</li><li>[14:44] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.techtarget.com/whatis/definition/WYSIWYG-what-you-see-is-what-you-get#:~:text=WYSIWYG%20(pronounced%20wiz%2Dee%2D,see%20is%20what%20you%20get.%22" target="_blank">WYSIWYG</a> (What You See Is What You Get)</li><li>[14:58] Why should you ask why</li></ul><ul><li>[16:23] Such an honor speaking at Podcast Movement &#8217;23 in Denver! Sign up to grab the slides from my session at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/PM23/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/PM23</a></li></ul><ul><li>[16:25] Sign up for the <em>Podcasting to the Max</em> newsletter at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/newsletter/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/Newsletter</a> and receive <em>How to Edit Your Podcast in Audacity</em></li></ul></li><li><strong>Restaurant Design</strong><ul><li>[17:04] Why?</li><li>[17:38] Why did Clement get into the restaurant industry</li><li>[18:00] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dot-com_bubble" target="_blank">Internet Bust</a></li><li>[19:04] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.lefoodist.com/guides/cooking-classes-paris/cookingparis136#:~:text=Cooking%20classes%20are%20where%20the,how%20to%20make%20is%20acquired." target="_blank">Cooking Class</a></li><li>[19:41] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://sugarfishsushi.com/co-founders/" target="_blank">Jerry Greenberg</a></li><li>[19:58] Bring to the <em>table</em></li><li>[20:15] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.oracle.com/scm/what-is-supply-chain-management/#:~:text=At%20the%20most%20fundamental%20level,product%20at%20its%20final%20destination." target="_blank">Supply Chain Management</a> (SCM)</li><li>[21:01] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/i/inventory.asp" target="_blank">Inventory</a></li><li>[21:15] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://sugarfishsushi.com/our-story/sushinozawa/" target="_blank">Chef Nozawa</a> (Kazunori Nozawa)</li><li>[22:34] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/supplychain.asp" target="_blank">Supply Chain</a></li><li>[22:48] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://corporatefinanceinstitute.com/resources/management/business-operations/#:~:text=Business%20operations%20refer%20to%20activities,the%20owners%20of%20the%20business." target="_blank">Operations</a> (Ops)</li><li>[23:02] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://sugarfishsushi.com/" target="_blank">SUGARFISH</a></li><li>[23:12] Do different types of restaurants operate differently</li><li>[25:11] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.in-n-out.com/" target="_blank">In-N-Out</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.chipotle.com/home" target="_blank">Chipotle</a></li><li>[25:32] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.tastingtable.com/1203923/best-diners-in-new-jersey-ranked/" target="_blank">Jersey Diners</a></li><li>[25:56] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matzah_ball" target="_blank">Matzah Ball Soup</a></li></ul></li></ul>



<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-large is-resized"><img loading="lazy" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/SF2GoBox-1024x1024.jpg" alt="Clement Mok SUGARFISH" class="wp-image-8164" width="510" height="510" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/SF2GoBox-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/SF2GoBox-200x200@2x.jpg 400w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/SF2GoBox-200x200.jpg 200w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/SF2GoBox-768x768.jpg 768w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/SF2GoBox-500x500.jpg 500w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/SF2GoBox-400x400@2x.jpg 800w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/SF2GoBox-1280x1280.jpg 1280w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/SF2GoBox-1920x1920.jpg 1920w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/SF2GoBox-768x768@2x.jpg 1536w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/SF2GoBox.jpg 2000w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/SF2GoBox-500x500@2x.jpg 1000w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/SF2GoBox-800x800@2x.jpg 1600w" sizes="(max-width: 510px) 100vw, 510px" /><figcaption><a href="https://sugarfishsushi.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">SUGARFISH</a></figcaption></figure></div>



<ul><li><strong>Rapid-Fire Q&amp;A</strong><ul><li>[27:24] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.finedininglovers.com/article/what-is-monkfish-liver-and-how-to-eat-it" target="_blank">Monkfish Liver</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pompano" target="_blank">Pompano</a></li><li>[27:44] What&#8217;s the biggest adjustment moving from NYC to California</li><li>[28:31] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://visitpalmsprings.com/" target="_blank">Palm Springs</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coachella_Valley" target="_blank">Coachella Valley</a></li><li>[29:03] What&#8217;s the biggest lesson Clement learned from working with Steve Jobs</li><li>[30:31] Connect with Clement at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://clementmok.com/" target="_blank">ClementMok.com</a></li></ul><ul><li>[30:43] What are Clement&#8217;s Final Thoughts</li><li>[31:02]&nbsp;Follow the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em></a> and tell a friend about the podcast. And show love (or roast me) by leaving 5 stars on Apple Podcasts and/or Spotify</li></ul><ul><li>[31:24] Check out the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast&nbsp;</em>on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.goodpods.com/" target="_blank">Goodpods</a>, where you can see what your favorite people are listening to</li><li>[31:26]&nbsp;Connect with me on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/maxbranstetter/" target="_blank">Instagram</a>,&nbsp;<a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Twitter</a> (aka <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/maxbranstetter" target="_blank">X</a>), and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/max-branstetter-74150a57/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a> @MaxBranstetter</li><li>[31:28] Save time with your high-quality podcast. Email me at <a href="mailto:&#109;&#97;x&#64;&#109;&#97;x&#112;o&#100;ca&#115;t&#105;&#110;&#103;&#46;&#99;om">max&#64;&#109;axpodc&#97;&#115;&#116;in&#103;&#46;&#99;o&#109;</a> to bring your podcast to life and use it as a business-building tool</li><li>[31:32] Sign up for the&nbsp;<em>Podcasting to the Max</em>&nbsp;newsletter at&nbsp;<a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/newsletter/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/Newsletter</a>&nbsp;and receive <em>How to Edit Your Podcast in Audacity</em></li><li>Theme music: Freestyle Percussion Magik &#8211; &#8220;Jungle Tribe&#8221; &#8211; provided by Jamendo</li></ul></li></ul>



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<h2 id="podcast-summary"><strong>What is the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em>?</strong></h2>



<p>Wild ideas. Wild growth. Every Wednesday morning a new entrepreneur joins the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em> to share the wildly creative and unusual ways they grew their business &#8211; and teaches you how to do it, too. Hear the minds behind WordPress, Stacy&#8217;s Pita Chips, Drybar, NFL RedZone, Big Mouth Billy Bass, the voice of Bart Simpson, and more Wild stories. Hosted by <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/about/" target="_blank">Max Branstetter</a> (that&#8217;s me), Founder and Podcast Producer at MaxPodcasting.</p>



<h2><strong>How do you start a podcast?</strong></h2>



<p>Interested in starting a professional-sounding podcast for your brand, but don&#8217;t want to deal with the time commitment of all those behind-the-scenes details? I’ve got you covered. Email me at <a href="mailto:m&#97;&#120;&#64;&#109;&#97;&#120;pod&#99;&#97;s&#116;i&#110;&#103;.&#99;o&#109;">m&#97;&#120;&#64;m&#97;&#120;&#112;o&#100;c&#97;sting.c&#111;m</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool.</p>



<p>Thanks for listening to Clement Mok on the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em>.<em> </em>To hear more Wild stories like this one every Wednesday morning, follow the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em></a> and tell a friend about it. And try out SUGARFISH while you&#8217;re at it. Until next time, Let your business Run Wild&#8230;and <strong><em>Bring on the Bongos!!</em></strong></p>
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		<title>Sheryl McLean &#8211; Wild Business Growth Podcast #264: Interior Design Inspirer, Founder of McLean &#038; Tircuit</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Max Branstetter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2023 04:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<category><![CDATA[Interior Design]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[McLean & Tircuit]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Sheryl McLean]]></category>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sheryl McLean, the President and Creative Director of McLean &#038; Tircuit, joins the Wild Business Growth Podcast to share her journey from international flight attendant to building the award-winning interior design firm.]]></description>
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<p>Do what you love to do. That&#8217;s the story of this week&#8217;s <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em></a> guest, Sheryl McLean. Sheryl is the President and Creative Director of McLean &amp; Tircuit. Listen to the episode on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wild-business-growth-podcast/id1422144338?mt=2" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6mSUsqYobBljhKIuK9sKJV" target="_blank">Spotify</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPJ7ovuCpHVg7SJchnF2BZg" target="_blank">YouTube</a>, and your other favorite <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">podcast platforms</a>.</p>



<ul><li><a href="#episode-summary">Episode Summary &amp; Player</a></li><li><a href="#full-transcript">Full Transcript</a></li><li><a href="#show-notes">Show Notes</a></li><li><a href="#podcast-summary"><em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em> Summary</a></li></ul>



<h2 id="episode-summary">Episode 264: Sheryl McLean – Interior Design Inspirer, Founder of McLean &amp; Tircuit</h2>



<p>Sheryl McLean, the President and Creative Director of McLean &amp; Tircuit, joins the show to share her journey from international flight attendant to building the award-winning interior design firm. Hear what to look for in a business coach, what to do if you’re too busy, how to have a Day of Inspiration, the best food in New Orleans, and Sheryl’s most memorable story from the friendly skies. This episode covers everything from Ray Romano to customer service. Here&#8217;s a small sample of what you will hear in this episode:</p>



<ul><li>What made Sheryl want to be an international flight attendant</li><li>How did she go from flight attendant to interior designer</li><li>What does Tircuit mean</li><li>Why does unplugging and doing something fun help inspire creativity</li><li>What&#8217;s the best thing Sheryl&#8217;s learned from a business coach</li><li>How do you use a journal</li><li>What are Sheryl&#8217;s favorite design projects to work on</li><li>Do you ever get used to your ears popping on flights</li></ul>



<p>Connect with Sheryl at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.mcleanandtircuit.com/" target="_blank">McLeanAndTircuit.com</a>, on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sheryl-mclean" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a>, and on Instagram <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="http://instagram.com/mcleantircuitdesigns" target="_blank">@McLeanTircuitDesigns</a>.</p>



<h2 id="full-transcript"></h2>



<p>Enjoy the shoooooow! Check out the show notes below for much more detail. You can also find the full transcript <a href="https://maxpodcasting.com/sheryl-mclean-transcript/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">here</a>.</p>



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<h2 id="show-notes"><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2>



<ul><li><strong>Intro &amp; International Flight Attendant</strong><ul><li>[0:31] Email me at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="mailto:m&#97;x&#64;h&#105;pp&#111;&#100;ire&#99;t.c&#111;m" target="_blank">&#109;a&#120;&#64;&#109;&#97;xp&#111;&#100;&#99;&#97;&#115;t&#105;n&#103;.&#99;&#111;m</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool</li><li>[0:41] Connect with Sheryl at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.mcleanandtircuit.com/" target="_blank">McLeanAndTircuit.com</a>, on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sheryl-mclean" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a>, and on Instagram <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="http://instagram.com/mcleantircuitdesigns" target="_blank">@McLeanTircuitDesigns</a></li></ul><ul><li>[2:06] Shoutout, Sheryl!</li><li>[2:17] WHOOPS</li><li>[2:57] What made Sheryl want to be an <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.indeed.com/q-international-flight-attendant-jobs.html" target="_blank">international flight attendant</a></li><li>[3:39] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.ibm.com/" target="_blank">IBM</a> (International Business Machines)</li><li>[4:33] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.united.com/" target="_blank">United Airlines</a></li><li>[5:39] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">Entrepreneurs</a></li><li>[5:49] Bazinga</li><li>[6:08] What&#8217;s Sheryl&#8217;s most memorable story from her time as a flight attendant</li><li>[7:14] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.lonelyplanet.com/articles/top-things-to-do-in-the-swiss-alps" target="_blank">Swiss Alps</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://lakecomotravel.com/lake-como-italy/" target="_blank">Lake Como</a></li><li>[8:24] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7660850/" target="_blank">Succession</a></em></li><li>[8:47] How did Sheryl go from flight attendant to interior designer</li><li>[9:49] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://grad.ucla.edu/programs/school-of-arts-and-architecture/architecture-and-urban-design-department/architecture/" target="_blank">UCLA Architecture</a> (University of California, Los Angeles)</li></ul></li></ul>



<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-large is-resized"><img loading="lazy" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/Sheryl-McLean-Tircuit-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-264-Interior-Design-Inspirer-Founder-of-McLean-Tircuit-1024x538.png" alt="Sheryl McLean - Wild Business Growth Podcast #264: Interior Design Inspirer, Founder of McLean &amp; Tircuit" class="wp-image-8039" width="716" height="377" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/Sheryl-McLean-Tircuit-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-264-Interior-Design-Inspirer-Founder-of-McLean-Tircuit-1024x538.png 1024w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/Sheryl-McLean-Tircuit-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-264-Interior-Design-Inspirer-Founder-of-McLean-Tircuit-400x210.png 400w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/Sheryl-McLean-Tircuit-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-264-Interior-Design-Inspirer-Founder-of-McLean-Tircuit-768x403.png 768w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/Sheryl-McLean-Tircuit-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-264-Interior-Design-Inspirer-Founder-of-McLean-Tircuit-500x263.png 500w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/Sheryl-McLean-Tircuit-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-264-Interior-Design-Inspirer-Founder-of-McLean-Tircuit-400x210@2x.png 800w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/Sheryl-McLean-Tircuit-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-264-Interior-Design-Inspirer-Founder-of-McLean-Tircuit.png 1200w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/Sheryl-McLean-Tircuit-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-264-Interior-Design-Inspirer-Founder-of-McLean-Tircuit-500x263@2x.png 1000w" sizes="(max-width: 716px) 100vw, 716px" /><figcaption>McLean &amp; Tircuit &amp; Branstetter</figcaption></figure></div>



<ul><li><strong>The McLean &amp; Tircuit Story</strong><ul><li>[12:16] Can&#8217;t stop</li><li>[12:26] What does Tircuit mean</li><li>[12:58] Gary Gottdiener – <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/gary-gottdiener/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em> #262</a>: <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.thesamplegroup.com/" target="_blank">The Sample Group</a><br>[13:29] What made Sheryl want to start her own design firm</li><li>[13:56] <em>Blueprint</em></li><li>[14:13] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://decoratingden.com/" target="_blank">Interiors by Decorating Den</a></li><li>[15:47] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/" target="_blank">Podcast Production Business</a></li><li>[16:07] How do you handle being too busy as a business owner</li><li>[16:15] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0463034/" target="_blank">You, Me and Tircuit</a></em></li><li>[17:03] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://badguild.info/" target="_blank">BADG</a> (Black Artists + Designers Guild)</li><li>[17:30] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.thebowcollective.org/" target="_blank">The BOW Collective</a> (Black Owner &amp; Women)</li><li>[17:53] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/ceo.asp" target="_blank">CEO</a> (Chief Executive Officer)</li><li>[18:42] <em>The Black Owner &amp; Women (BOW) Knows Business Podcast</em>: <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/live/9mAjM2eY-rs?si=HdPHYBaKIDqtBgqO" target="_blank">Episode 11 &#8211; Sheryl McLean</a></li><li>[19:00] What&#8217;s the best thing Sheryl&#8217;s learned from a <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://blog.hubspot.com/sales/business-coach" target="_blank">business coach</a></li><li>[20:54] What should you look for in a business coach</li><li>[22:35] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/" target="_blank">Podcasts</a></li><li>[23:08] What are Sheryl&#8217;s favorite design projects to work on</li><li>[25:17] I never know</li><li>[25:38] What differentiates <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.mcleanandtircuit.com/" target="_blank">McLean &amp; Tircuit</a></li><li>[28:28] What does Sheryl&#8217;s workflow look like</li><li>[30:01] Such an honor speaking at Podcast Movement &#8217;23 in Denver! Sign up to grab the slides from my session at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/PM23/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/PM23</a></li></ul><ul><li>[30:03] Sign up for the <em>Podcasting to the Max</em> newsletter at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/newsletter/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/Newsletter</a> and receive <em>How to Edit Your Podcast in Audacity</em></li></ul></li><li><strong>Inspiration &amp; Creativity</strong><ul><li>[30:55] What does Sheryl do on a Day of Inspiration</li><li>[31:09] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.beyonce.com/" target="_blank">Beyoncé</a></li><li>[32:17] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://narf.org/" target="_blank">NARF</a> (Native American Rights Fund)</li><li>[32:27] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://americanindian.si.edu/" target="_blank">National Museum of the American Indian</a> (Smithsonian)</li><li>[33:22] Why does unplugging and doing something fun help inspire creativity</li><li>[34:04] <em>Runway</em></li><li>[34:47] How do you use a journal</li></ul></li></ul>



<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-large is-resized"><img loading="lazy" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/Tircuit-Sheryl-McLean-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-264-Interior-Design-Inspirer-Founder-of-McLean-Tircuit.jpeg" alt="Sheryl McLean - Wild Business Growth Podcast #264: Interior Design Inspirer, Founder of McLean &amp; Tircuit" class="wp-image-8041" width="615" height="408" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/Tircuit-Sheryl-McLean-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-264-Interior-Design-Inspirer-Founder-of-McLean-Tircuit.jpeg 928w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/Tircuit-Sheryl-McLean-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-264-Interior-Design-Inspirer-Founder-of-McLean-Tircuit-400x266.jpeg 400w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/Tircuit-Sheryl-McLean-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-264-Interior-Design-Inspirer-Founder-of-McLean-Tircuit-768x511.jpeg 768w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/Tircuit-Sheryl-McLean-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-264-Interior-Design-Inspirer-Founder-of-McLean-Tircuit-500x332.jpeg 500w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/Tircuit-Sheryl-McLean-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-264-Interior-Design-Inspirer-Founder-of-McLean-Tircuit-400x266@2x.jpeg 800w" sizes="(max-width: 615px) 100vw, 615px" /><figcaption>Sheryl&#8217;s boutique</figcaption></figure></div>



<ul><li><strong>The Unusual</strong><ul><li>[36:02] What&#8217;s a Weird Talent Sheryl has</li><li>[36:53] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.ssa.gov/prepare/plan-retirement" target="_blank">Retirement</a></li><li>[37:34] What&#8217;s a quirk Sheryl has</li><li>[38:59] What&#8217;s her biggest pet peeve</li><li>[39:12] Shoutout, Dana!</li><li>[39:27] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.apa.org/topics/anger/road-rage" target="_blank">Road Rage</a> </li></ul></li><li><strong>Rapid-Fire Q&amp;A</strong><ul><li>[40:54] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://tastesbetterfromscratch.com/authentic-new-orleans-style-gumbo/" target="_blank">Gumbo</a></li><li>[41:01] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.delish.com/cooking/recipe-ideas/a42551468/instant-pot-jambalaya-recipe/" target="_blank">Jambalaya</a></li><li>[41:07] Shoutout, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/p/Cbquq-5pnYq/" target="_blank">Jon</a>!</li><li>[41:22] Jake&#8217;s</li><li>[41:46] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Po%27_boy" target="_blank">Po&#8217; Boy</a></li><li>[41:51] What&#8217;s Sheryl&#8217;s favorite thing she&#8217;s ever sketched</li><li>[42:47] <a href="https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/1325808?hl=en&amp;co=GENIE.Platform%3DDesktop" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Reverse Google Search</a>, <a href="https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/1325808?hl=en&amp;co=GENIE.Platform%3DDesktop" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Reverse Google Image</a></li><li>[43:05] Do you ever get used to your <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.uhhospitals.org/blog/articles/2023/10/ear-popping-pain-or-pressure-when-to-be-concerned" target="_blank">ears popping</a> on flights</li><li>[44:14] How do you deal with <a href="https://www.weather.gov/source/zhu/ZHU_Training_Page/turbulence_stuff/turbulence/turbulence.htm" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">turbulence</a></li><li>[45:03] How loyal is Sheryl to United Airlines</li><li>[45:17] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.southwest.com/" target="_blank">Southwest Airlines</a></li><li>[46:01] Connect with Sheryl at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.mcleanandtircuit.com/" target="_blank">McLeanAndTircuit.com</a>, on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sheryl-mclean" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a>, and on Instagram <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="http://instagram.com/mcleantircuitdesigns" target="_blank">@McLeanTircuitDesigns</a></li></ul><ul><li>[47:00] What are Sheryl&#8217;s Final Thoughts</li></ul><ul><li>[47:51] Follow the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em></a> and tell a friend about the podcast. And show love (or roast me) by leaving 5 stars on Apple Podcasts and/or Spotify</li></ul><ul><li>[48:05] Check out the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast </em>on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.goodpods.com/" target="_blank">Goodpods</a>, where you can see what your favorite people are listening to</li><li>[48:12] Connect with me on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/maxbranstetter/" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Twitter</a> (aka <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/maxbranstetter" target="_blank">X</a>), and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/max-branstetter-74150a57/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a> @MaxBranstetter</li><li>[48:19] Save time with your high-quality podcast. Email me at <a href="mailto:m&#97;&#120;&#64;m&#97;x&#112;&#111;d&#99;&#97;s&#116;&#105;&#110;&#103;.&#99;&#111;&#109;">m&#97;x&#64;&#109;&#97;&#120;&#112;&#111;dca&#115;t&#105;&#110;&#103;.c&#111;&#109;</a> to bring your podcast to life and use it as a business-building tool</li><li>[48:23] Sign up for the <em>Podcasting to the Max</em> newsletter at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/newsletter/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/Newsletter</a> and receive <em>How to Edit Your Podcast in Audacity</em></li><li>Theme music: Freestyle Percussion Magik &#8211; &#8220;Jungle Tribe&#8221; &#8211; provided by Jamendo</li></ul></li></ul>



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<h2 id="podcast-summary"><strong>What is the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em>?</strong></h2>



<p>Wild ideas. Wild growth. Every Wednesday morning a new entrepreneur joins the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em> to share the wildly creative and unusual ways they grew their business &#8211; and teaches you how to do it, too. Hear the minds behind WordPress, Stacy&#8217;s Pita Chips, Drybar, NFL RedZone, Big Mouth Billy Bass, the voice of Bart Simpson, and more Wild stories. Hosted by <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/about/" target="_blank">Max Branstetter</a> (that&#8217;s me), Founder and Podcast Producer at MaxPodcasting.</p>



<h2><strong>How do you start a podcast?</strong></h2>



<p>Interested in starting a professional-sounding podcast for your brand, but don&#8217;t want to deal with the time commitment of all those behind-the-scenes details? I’ve got you covered. Email me at <a href="mailto:&#109;a&#120;&#64;&#109;a&#120;pod&#99;as&#116;&#105;n&#103;&#46;&#99;om">&#109;&#97;&#120;&#64;m&#97;&#120;p&#111;d&#99;&#97;st&#105;n&#103;.&#99;om</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool.</p>



<p>Thanks for listening to Sheryl McLean on the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em>.<em> </em>To hear more Wild stories like this one every Wednesday morning, follow the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em></a> and tell a friend about it. And go on a Day of Inspiration together. Until next time, Let your business Run Wild&#8230;and <strong><em>Bring on the Bongos!!</em></strong></p>
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		<title>Robert Brunner &#8211; Wild Business Growth Podcast #255: Beats by Dre Designer, Founder of Ammunition</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2023 02:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Robert Brunner, the Chief Designer of Beats by Dre and Founder of Ammunition, joins the Wild Business Growth Podcast to share his journey from falling in love with industrial design to shaping design for Apple, Pentagram, Beats by Dre, and beyond.]]></description>
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<p>How did Beats by Dre and Apple become the design behemoths they are today? That&#8217;s the story of this week&#8217;s <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth&nbsp;Podcast</em></a> guest, Robert Brunner. Robert is the Chief Designer of Beats by Dre and Founder of Ammunition. Listen to the episode on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wild-business-growth-podcast/id1422144338?mt=2" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6mSUsqYobBljhKIuK9sKJV" target="_blank">Spotify</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPJ7ovuCpHVg7SJchnF2BZg" target="_blank">YouTube</a>,&nbsp;and your other favorite <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">podcast platforms</a>.</p>



<ul><li><a href="#episode-summary">Episode Summary &amp; Player</a></li><li><a href="#full-transcript">Full Transcript</a></li><li><a href="#show-notes">Show Notes</a></li><li><a href="#podcast-summary"><em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em> Summary</a></li></ul>



<h2 id="episode-summary">Episode 255: Robert Brunner – Beats by Dre Designer, Founder of Ammunition</h2>



<p>Robert Brunner, the Chief Designer of Beats by Dre and Founder of Ammunition, joins the show to share his journey from falling in love with industrial design to shaping design for Apple, Pentagram, Beats by Dre, and beyond. Hear his design principles, how Apple became what it is today, behind-the-scenes stories from Beats by Dre, his most memorable design projects, and what Dr. Dre goes by in the office. This episode covers everything from Jimmy Iovine to the Apple Lisa. Here&#8217;s a small sample of what you will hear in this episode:</p>



<ul><li>Did Robert always know he wanted to design for massive brands</li><li>What was the scene in his house like growing up</li><li>How did he start working for Apple</li><li>Could he tell Apple would become what it is today</li><li>How did he start working on Beats by Dre</li><li>Why did he go back to entrepreneurship with Ammunition</li><li>Does Beats by Dre really test new headphones with &#8220;In Da Club&#8221; by 50 Cent</li><li>Pharrell</li></ul>



<p>Connect with Robert at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://ammunitiongroup.com/" target="_blank">AmmunitionGroup.com</a>, on Instagram <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/robertdbrunner/" target="_blank">@RobertDBrunner</a> and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/ammunitiongroup/" target="_blank">@AmmunitionGroup</a>, and on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/robertbrunner" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a>.</p>



<h2 id="full-transcript"></h2>



<p>Enjoy the shoooooow! Check out the show notes below for much more detail. You can also find the full transcript <a href="https://maxpodcasting.com/robert-brunner-transcript/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">here</a>.</p>



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<h2 id="show-notes"><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2>



<ul><li><strong>Intro &amp; Industrial Design</strong><ul><li>[0:27] Email me at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="mailto:&#109;&#97;x&#64;&#104;&#105;pp&#111;d&#105;&#114;ec&#116;.&#99;om" target="_blank">m&#97;x&#64;&#109;ax&#112;&#111;d&#99;&#97;&#115;t&#105;ng&#46;c&#111;m</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool</li><li>[0:36] Connect with Robert at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://ammunitiongroup.com/" target="_blank">AmmunitionGroup.com</a>, on Instagram <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/robertdbrunner/" target="_blank">@RobertDBrunner</a> and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/ammunitiongroup/" target="_blank">@AmmunitionGroup</a>, and on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/robertbrunner" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a></li></ul><ul><li>[1:39] Oh boy</li><li>[2:08] Did Robert always know he wanted to design for massive brands</li><li>[2:43] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.ibm.com/us-en" target="_blank">IBM</a> (International Business Machines)</li><li>[3:33] What was the scene in Robert&#8217;s house like growing up</li><li>[3:48] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_IBM_magnetic_disk_drives" target="_blank">14&#8243; Winchester Disk Drives</a></li><li>[4:59] What lessons did Robert&#8217;s parents teach him</li><li>[5:27] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.bls.gov/ooh/architecture-and-engineering/home.htm" target="_blank">Engineering</a></li><li>[5:50] <a href="https://www.sjsu.edu/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">San José State University</a> (SJSU)</li><li>[5:54] <a href="https://www.sjsu.edu/cee/programs/bs-civil-engineering/index.php" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Civil Engineering</a>, <a href="https://www.britannica.com/topic/Trans-Alaska-Pipeline" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Alaska Pipeline</a>, <a href="https://www.sjsu.edu/ee/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Electrical Engineering</a></li><li>[6:27] <a href="https://www.interaction-design.org/literature/topics/graphic-design" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Graphic Design</a></li></ul></li></ul>



<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-large is-resized"><img loading="lazy" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Robert-Brunner-Beats-by-Dre-Ammunition-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-1024x538.png" alt="Robert Brunner - Wild Business Growth Podcast #255: Beats by Dre Designer, Founder of Ammunition" class="wp-image-7751" width="718" height="377" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Robert-Brunner-Beats-by-Dre-Ammunition-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-1024x538.png 1024w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Robert-Brunner-Beats-by-Dre-Ammunition-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-400x210.png 400w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Robert-Brunner-Beats-by-Dre-Ammunition-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-768x403.png 768w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Robert-Brunner-Beats-by-Dre-Ammunition-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-500x263.png 500w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Robert-Brunner-Beats-by-Dre-Ammunition-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-400x210@2x.png 800w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Robert-Brunner-Beats-by-Dre-Ammunition-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast.png 1200w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Robert-Brunner-Beats-by-Dre-Ammunition-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-500x263@2x.png 1000w" sizes="(max-width: 718px) 100vw, 718px" /><figcaption>Mayyyy have looked up what color shirt Robert often wears</figcaption></figure></div>



<ul><li><strong>Industrial Design at Apple</strong><ul><li>[7:55] What is <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.idsa.org/what-id/#:~:text=Industrial%20Design%20is%20a%20strategic,what%20is%20and%20what's%20possible." target="_blank">industrial design</a></li><li>[9:13] What are Robert&#8217;s <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://99designs.com/blog/tips/principles-of-design/" target="_blank">design principles</a></li><li>[9:40] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.britannica.com/science/physics-science#:~:text=Physics%20is%20the%20basic%20physical,the%20fundamental%20laws%20of%20nature." target="_blank">Physics</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.britannica.com/science/calculus-mathematics#:~:text=calculus%2C%20branch%20of%20mathematics%20concerned,some%20whole%20(integral%20calculus)." target="_blank">Calculus</a></li><li>[11:08] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.tate.org.uk/art/art-terms/m/modernism#:~:text=Modernism%20refers%20to%20a%20global,values%20of%20modern%20industrial%20life." target="_blank">Modernism</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.britannica.com/topic/postmodernism-philosophy#:~:text=What%20is%20postmodernism%3F,Western%20philosophy%3A%20Modern%20philosophy" target="_blank">Postmodernism</a></li><li>[11:16] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.starwars.com/" target="_blank">Star Wars</a></em>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://atari.com/" target="_blank">Atari</a></li><li>[11:57] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.tate.org.uk/art/art-terms/e/expressionism" target="_blank">Expressionism</a></li><li>[12:05] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.bebitalia.com/en-us/mario-bellini" target="_blank">Mario Bellini</a></li><li>[12:12] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.designindex.org/index/design/mario-bellini.html" target="_blank">Olivetti</a></li><li>[13:51] How did Robert start working for <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.apple.com/" target="_blank">Apple</a></li><li>[14:04] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.furbershaworks.com/" target="_blank">Gerard Furbershaw</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-smith-9116661" target="_blank">Jeff Smith</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/mckinsey-design/how-we-help-clients" target="_blank">LUNAR</a></li><li>[14:37] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.apple.com/stevejobs/" target="_blank">Steve Jobs</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hartmut_Esslinger" target="_blank">Hartmut Esslinger</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.frog.co/" target="_blank">frog</a></li><li>[15:11] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/billdresselhaus" target="_blank">Bill Dresselhaus</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Lisa" target="_blank">Lisa</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.apple.com/mac/" target="_blank">Mac</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skunkworks_project#:~:text=A%20skunkworks%20project%20is%20a,the%20sake%20of%20radical%20innovation." target="_blank">Skunkworks</a></li><li>[18:24] <em>The Man Who Rejected Apple*</em> by Robert Brunner</li><li>[18:54] What&#8217;s Robert&#8217;s favorite memory from working at Apple</li><li>[19:28] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.hermanmiller.com/products/workspaces/workstations/action-office-system/design-story/" target="_blank">Herman Miller Action Office</a></li><li>[19:57] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerBook" target="_blank">PowerBook</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.apple.com/macbook-pro/" target="_blank">MacBook</a></li><li>[22:40] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.amazon.com/Do-You-Matter-Design-Company-ebook/dp/B004QQ3NHQ?ref_=ast_author_mpb" target="_blank">Do You Matter? How Great Design Will Make People Love Your Company</a></em> by Robert Brunner and Stewart Emery with Russ Hall</li></ul><ul><li>[22:52] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://techcrunch.com/" target="_blank">Technology</a> (Tech)</li><li>[23:00] Could Robert tell Apple would become what it is today</li><li>[23:24] Bazinga!</li><li>[24:42] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/windows/overview.html" target="_blank">Windows-Intel</a></li><li>[25:34] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.hp.com/us-en/home.html" target="_blank">Hewlett-Packard</a> (HP), <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Microsystems" target="_blank">Sun Microsystems</a></li><li>[25:53] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jony_Ive" target="_blank">Jony Ive</a></li></ul><ul><li>[26:10] Such an honor speaking at Podcast Movement &#8217;23 in Denver! Sign up to grab the slides from my session at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/PM23/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/PM23</a></li></ul><ul><li>[26:12] Sign up for the <em>Podcasting to the Max</em> newsletter at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/newsletter/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/Newsletter</a> and receive <em>How to Edit Your Podcast in Audacity</em></li></ul></li><li><strong>Industrial Design at Pentagram &amp; Beats by Dre</strong><ul><li>[27:08] Paula Scher – <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/paula-scher/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em> #110</a>: Legendary Graphic Designer, Principal at Pentagram</li><li>[27:29] What brought Robert to <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.pentagram.com/" target="_blank">Pentagram</a></li><li>[28:26] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.sfmoma.org/" target="_blank">San Francisco Museum of Modern Art</a> (SFMOMA), <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="http://www.studio-hinrichs.com/" target="_blank">Kit Hinrichs</a></li><li>[29:08] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.anglepoise.com/eu/designers/sir-kenneth-grange/" target="_blank">Kenneth Grange</a></li><li>[29:28] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.pentagram.com/news/in-memory-of-colin-forbes-1928-2022" target="_blank">Colin Forbes</a></li><li>[30:53] Any day!</li><li>[31:28] How did Robert start working on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.beatsbydre.com/" target="_blank">Beats by Dre</a></li><li>[32:02] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.rockhall.com/inductees/jimmy-iovine" target="_blank">Jimmy Iovine</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.drdre.com/" target="_blank">Dr. Dre</a></li><li>[33:37] Bose</li><li>[35:22] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.beatsbydre.com/headphones/studio-pro-wireless" target="_blank">Beats by Dre Studio</a></li><li>[35:38] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Valley" target="_blank">Silicon Valley</a></li><li>[36:01] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.ladygaga.com/" target="_blank">Lady Gaga</a></li><li>[38:07] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Jordan" target="_blank">Michael Jordan</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kobe_Bryant" target="_blank">Kobe Bryant</a></li><li>[38:29] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://youtu.be/a4Cyg1qATfg?si=mcQqTAOZVR-4RXIH" target="_blank">Jimmy Iovine Interviews</a></li><li>[38:55] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://brucespringsteen.net/" target="_blank">Bruce Springsteen</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Lennon" target="_blank">John Lennon</a></li></ul></li></ul>



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<ul><li><strong>The Ammunition Story</strong><ul><li>[39:48] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://ammunitiongroup.com/" target="_blank">AmmunitionGroup.com</a></li><li>[39:54] Why did Robert go back to entrepreneurship with Ammunition</li><li>[40:24] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.pentagram.com/news/thank-you-daniel-weil" target="_blank">Daniel Weil</a></li><li>[42:52] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://ammunitiongroup.com/projects_pt/fuego/" target="_blank">Fuego</a></li><li>[44:59] What other projects are memorable at Ammunition</li><li>[45:14] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://ammunitiongroup.com/projects_pt/square/" target="_blank">Square</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Dorsey" target="_blank">Jack Dorsey</a></li><li>[45:31] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://usa.visa.com/" target="_blank">VISA</a></li><li>[46:01] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://ammunitiongroup.com/projects_pt/square/" target="_blank">Square Stand</a></li><li>[46:07] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.retaildive.com/" target="_blank">Retail</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.sba.gov/" target="_blank">Small Business</a></li></ul></li><li><strong>Rapid-Fire Q&amp;A: Music Edition</strong><ul><li>[46:44] &#8220;<a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiAgeZUcZ58" target="_blank">I Don&#8217;t Have a Square to Spare!</a>&#8220;</li><li>[46:51] What does Dr. Dre go by in the office</li><li>[47:42] Does Beats by Dre really test new headphones with &#8220;<a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qm8PH4xAss" target="_blank">In Da Club</a>&#8221; by 50 Cent</li><li>[48:15] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent" target="_blank">Curtis Jackson</a></li><li>[48:18] Shoutout, Alex!</li><li>[48:31] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.universalmusic.com/" target="_blank">Universal Music Group</a> (UMG)</li><li>[49:02] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharrell_Williams" target="_blank">Pharrell Williams</a>, <a href="https://will.i.am/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">will.i.am</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_Stone" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Oliver Stone</a></li><li>[49:55] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bono" target="_blank">Bono</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.u2.com/" target="_blank">U2</a></li><li>[51:02] Connect with Robert at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://ammunitiongroup.com/" target="_blank">AmmunitionGroup.com</a>, on Instagram <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/robertdbrunner/" target="_blank">@RobertDBrunner</a> and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/ammunitiongroup/" target="_blank">@AmmunitionGroup</a>, and on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/robertbrunner" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a></li><li>[51:51] What are Robert&#8217;s Final Thoughts</li></ul><ul><li>[52:27]&nbsp;Follow the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em></a> and tell a friend about the podcast. And show love (or roast me) by leaving 5 stars on Apple Podcasts and/or Spotify</li><li>[52:42] Check out the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast&nbsp;</em>on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.goodpods.com/" target="_blank">Goodpods</a>, where you can see what your favorite people are listening to</li><li>[52:44]&nbsp;Connect with me on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/maxbranstetter/" target="_blank">Instagram</a>,&nbsp;<a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Twitter</a> (aka <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/maxbranstetter" target="_blank">X</a>), and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/max-branstetter-74150a57/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a> @MaxBranstetter</li><li>[52:47] Save time with your high-quality podcast. Email me at <a href="mailto:&#109;a&#120;&#64;&#109;&#97;xpo&#100;ca&#115;t&#105;ng.&#99;o&#109;">ma&#120;&#64;m&#97;x&#112;&#111;d&#99;ast&#105;&#110;g.&#99;om</a> to bring your podcast to life and use it as a business-building tool</li><li>[52:52] Sign up for the&nbsp;<em>Podcasting to the Max</em>&nbsp;newsletter at&nbsp;<a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/newsletter/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/Newsletter</a>&nbsp;and receive <em>How to Edit Your Podcast in Audacity</em></li><li>Theme music: Freestyle Percussion Magik &#8211; &#8220;Jungle Tribe&#8221; &#8211; provided by Jamendo</li></ul></li></ul>



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<h2 id="podcast-summary"><strong>What is the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em>?</strong></h2>



<p>Wild ideas. Wild growth. Every Wednesday morning a new entrepreneur joins the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em> to share the wildly creative and unusual ways they grew their business &#8211; and teaches you how to do it, too. Hear the minds behind WordPress, Stacy&#8217;s Pita Chips, Drybar, NFL RedZone, Big Mouth Billy Bass, the voice of Bart Simpson, and more Wild stories. Hosted by <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/about/" target="_blank">Max Branstetter</a> (that&#8217;s me), Founder and Podcast Producer at MaxPodcasting.</p>



<h2><strong>How do you start a podcast?</strong></h2>



<p>Interested in starting a professional-sounding podcast for your brand, but don&#8217;t want to deal with the time commitment of all those behind-the-scenes details? I’ve got you covered. Email me at <a href="mailto:ma&#120;&#64;&#109;axpo&#100;&#99;&#97;&#115;t&#105;ng&#46;&#99;&#111;&#109;">&#109;a&#120;&#64;m&#97;&#120;p&#111;&#100;cast&#105;ng.&#99;&#111;m</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool.</p>



<p>Thanks for listening to Robert Brunner on the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em>.<em> </em>To hear more Wild stories like this one every Wednesday morning, follow the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em></a> and tell a friend about it. And sketch all sorts of stuff with them while listening to &#8220;In Da Club.&#8221; Until next time, Let your business Run Wild&#8230;and <strong><em>Bring on the Bongos!!</em></strong></p>
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		<title>Todd Radom &#8211; Wild Business Growth Podcast #202: Pro Sports Logo Designer, Branding All-Star</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Max Branstetter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2022 09:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Todd Radom, the Designer, Sports Branding Expert, and Writer, joins the Wild Business Growth Podcast to share his journey from designing book covers to designing the logos for a Super Bowl, MLB and NBA All-Star Games, MLB teams, and Ice Cube's BIG3 basketball league.]]></description>
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<p class="has-drop-cap">How do you design a logo that&#8217;s so impactful it can be stretched to the side of an arena &#8211; yet so simple, it can shrink down to the size of an avatar? That&#8217;s what this week&#8217;s <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">Wild Business Growth Podcast</a></em> guest, Todd Radom, works with time and time again. Todd is a Designer, Sports Branding Expert, and Writer. Listen to the episode on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wild-business-growth-podcast/id1422144338?mt=2" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6mSUsqYobBljhKIuK9sKJV" target="_blank">Spotify</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://podcasts.google.com/?feed=aHR0cDovL3dpbGRidXNpbmVzc2dyb3d0aHBvZGNhc3QubGlic3luLmNvbS9yc3M%3D" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a>, and your other favorite <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">podcast platforms</a>.</p>



<ul><li><a href="#episode-summary">Episode Summary &amp; Player</a></li><li><a href="#full-transcript">Full Transcript</a></li><li><a href="#show-notes">Show Notes</a></li><li><a href="#podcast-summary"><em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em> Summary</a></li></ul>



<h2 id="episode-summary">Episode 202: Todd Radom – Pro Sports Logo Designer, Branding All-Star</h2>



<p>Todd Radom, the Designer, Sports Branding Expert, and Writer, joins the show to share his journey from designing book covers to designing the logos for a Super Bowl, MLB and NBA All-Star Games, MLB teams, and Ice Cube&#8217;s BIG3 basketball league. Hear how to design a lasting logo, what makes a logo jump off the page, Todd’s approach for the Super Bowl XXXVIII logo, his favorite pro sports uniforms of all time, and the hardest thing in the world to draw. This episode covers everything from the Washington Nationals logo to top throwback uniforms. Here&#8217;s a small sample of what you will hear in this episode:</p>



<ul><li>What makes a visually-appealing book cover</li><li>How did Todd get into the sports design world</li><li>When did he get his first official pro sports client</li><li>How confident was he the MLB would be interested in his work</li><li>Does he ever interact with people in the wild wearing his logos</li><li>What&#8217;s different about creating logos for a brand new franchise vs. existing franchises</li><li>How do clients decide which design is the winner</li><li>Why do cartoon hands have 4 fingers</li></ul>



<p>Connect with Todd at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.toddradom.com/" target="_blank">ToddRadom.com</a> and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/toddradom" target="_blank">Twitter</a> and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/toddradom/" target="_blank">Instagram</a> @ToddRadom.</p>



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<p>Enjoy the shoooooow! Check out the show notes below for much more detail. You can also find the full transcript <a href="https://maxpodcasting.com/todd-radom-transcript/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">here</a>.</p>



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<h2 id="show-notes"><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2>



<ul><li><strong>Intro &amp; Designing Book Covers</strong><ul><li>[0:30] Email me at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="mailto:&#109;&#97;&#120;&#64;h&#105;&#112;p&#111;d&#105;r&#101;&#99;&#116;&#46;c&#111;&#109;" target="_blank">&#109;&#97;&#120;&#64;&#109;ax&#112;o&#100;&#99;ast&#105;&#110;&#103;&#46;co&#109;</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool</li><li>[0:40] Connect with Todd at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.toddradom.com/" target="_blank">ToddRadom.com</a> and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/toddradom" target="_blank">Twitter</a> and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/toddradom/" target="_blank">Instagram</a> @ToddRadom</li><li>[2:10] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://baseballhall.org/" target="_blank">Cooperstown</a></li><li>[2:29] Short &amp; sweet</li><li>[3:18] What makes a visually-appealing book cover</li><li>[3:50] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://kdp.amazon.com/" target="_blank">Book Publishing</a></li><li>[3:53] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.penguin.com/" target="_blank">Penguin Books</a></li><li>[4:51] Bazinga</li><li>[5:05] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.amazon.com/" target="_blank">Amazon</a></li><li>[5:22] How do you make eye-popping book covers</li><li>[5:51] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://stephenking.com/" target="_blank">Stephen King</a></li><li>[6:17] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/pointofpurchase1.asp" target="_blank">Point of Purchase</a> (POP)</li><li>[7:06] What kind of art did Todd&#8217;s parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents do</li><li>[8:24] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.britannica.com/science/DNA#:~:text=Deoxyribonucleic%20acid%20(DNA)%20is%20an,parent%20or%20parents%20to%20offspring." target="_blank">DNA</a> (Deoxyribonucleic acid)</li><li>[9:08] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.newschool.edu/parsons/" target="_blank">Parsons School of Design</a></li><li>[9:57] Awwwwww!</li><li>[10:32] What a bummer!</li><li>[11:22] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://corporatefinanceinstitute.com/resources/knowledge/accounting/accounting/#:~:text=Accounting%20is%20a%20term%20that,financial%20performance%2C%20and%20cash%20flows." target="_blank">Accounting</a></li></ul></li></ul>



<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-large is-resized"><img loading="lazy" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/IMG_8827-1024x724.jpg" alt="Todd Radom - Wild Business Growth Podcast #202: Pro Sports Logo Designer, Branding All-Star" class="wp-image-5953" width="678" height="479" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/IMG_8827-1024x724.jpg 1024w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/IMG_8827-400x283.jpg 400w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/IMG_8827-768x543.jpg 768w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/IMG_8827-500x354.jpg 500w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/IMG_8827-400x283@2x.jpg 800w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/IMG_8827-1280x905.jpg 1280w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/IMG_8827-1920x1358.jpg 1920w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/IMG_8827-768x543@2x.jpg 1536w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/IMG_8827-1024x724@2x.jpg 2048w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/IMG_8827-500x354@2x.jpg 1000w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/IMG_8827-800x566@2x.jpg 1600w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/IMG_8827-1280x905@2x.jpg 2560w" sizes="(max-width: 678px) 100vw, 678px" /><figcaption>The Toddfather with the W</figcaption></figure></div>



<ul id="block-e2455cfc-8974-4c8c-9460-307439cd97ee"><li><strong>Designing Sports Logos &amp; Brands</strong><ul><li>[11:51] What a direct segue</li><li>[12:14] How did Todd get into the sports design world</li><li>[12:21] Guilty</li><li>[12:43] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.amazon.com/Sports-Outdoors-Headliners/s?rh=n%3A3375251%2Cp_89%3AHeadliners" target="_blank">Headliners</a></li><li>[12:48] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.bobbleheads.com/" target="_blank">Bobbleheads</a></li><li>[13:17] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.internetsociety.org/internet/history-internet/brief-history-internet/" target="_blank">Internet</a></li><li>[13:50] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Hockey_Association" target="_blank">World Hockey Association</a> (WHA), <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Football_League" target="_blank">World Football League</a> (WFL), <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Basketball_Association" target="_blank">ABA</a> (American Basketball Association)</li><li>[14:22] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.mlb.com/yankees" target="_blank">New York Yankees</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.mlb.com/twins" target="_blank">Minnesota Twins</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_League" target="_blank">American League</a></li><li>[14:50] How accurate were Todd&#8217;s pro sports drawings when he was younger</li><li>[15:14] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.adobe.com/products/illustrator.html" target="_blank">Adobe Illustrator</a></li><li>[15:32] When did Todd get his first official pro sports client</li><li>[15:40] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://sva.edu/" target="_blank">School of Visual Arts</a> (SVA)</li><li>[15:57] What a combo</li><li>[16:10] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.britannica.com/art/iconography" target="_blank">Iconography</a></li><li>[17:01] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.mlb.com/" target="_blank">MLB</a> (Major League Baseball), <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.nba.com/" target="_blank">NBA</a> (National Basketball Association), <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.nfl.com/" target="_blank">NFL</a> (National Football League)</li><li>[17:41] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/coldcalling.asp" target="_blank">Cold Calling</a></li><li>[17:45] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://clutch.co/agencies" target="_blank">Advertising Agencies</a> (Ad Agencies)</li><li>[18:38] <a href="https://www.toddradom.com/legacy-work" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Los Angeles Dodgers Winter Tour Patch</a></li><li>[18:50] <a href="https://funwhileitlasted.net/2015/09/26/1980-1992-knoxville-blue-jays/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Knoxville Blue Jays</a>, <a href="https://www.milb.com/tennessee" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Knoxville Smokies</a></li><li>[19:22] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.milb.com/" target="_blank">Minor League Baseball</a> (MiLB)</li><li>[19:38] How confident was Todd the MLB would be interested in his work</li><li>[19:55] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.americanexpress.com/" target="_blank">American Express</a> (AMEX), <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.att.com/" target="_blank">AT&amp;T</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/" target="_blank">Simon &amp; Schuster</a></li><li>[20:40] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://us.macmillan.com/stmartinspress/" target="_blank">St. Martin&#8217;s Press</a></li><li>[21:46] What was Todd&#8217;s first big &#8220;pinch me&#8221; moment</li><li>[22:21] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.toddradom.com/legacy-work" target="_blank">Milwaukee Brewers</a> (&#8217;94)</li><li>[23:37] Does Todd ever interact with people in the wild wearing his logos</li><li>[24:44] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.toddradom.com/legacy-work" target="_blank">Washington Nationals</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.toddradom.com/los-angeles-angels" target="_blank">Los Angeles Angels</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.toddradom.com/los-angeles-angels" target="_blank">Anaheim Angels</a></li><li>[25:04] How does Todd develop graphic identities for MLB teams</li><li>[26:20] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.britannica.com/technology/technology" target="_blank">Technology</a> (Tech)</li><li>[27:41] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreal_Expos" target="_blank">Montreal Expos</a></li><li>[28:30] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Senators_(1901%E2%80%931960)" target="_blank">Washington Senators</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.espn.com/mlb/team/_/name/tex/texas-rangers" target="_blank">Texas Rangers</a></li><li>[28:41] What&#8217;s different about creating logos for a brand new franchise vs. existing franchises</li><li>[29:05] Thank you!</li><li>[30:55] Geeeeez</li><li>[31:12] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backyard_Baseball" target="_blank">Backyard Baseball</a></em>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://backyardsports.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_teams" target="_blank">Humongous Melonheads</a></li><li>[32:16] How did Todd create the official logo for <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.toddradom.com/legacy-work" target="_blank">Super Bowl XXXVIII</a></li><li>[34:08] Beautifully done</li><li>[34:53] Does it change Todd&#8217;s approach when there are more eyeballs on a project</li><li>[35:43] <a href="https://www.toddradom.com/work" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Environmental Graphics</a></li><li>[36:42] Super Bowel lol</li></ul><ul><li>[36:54] Save time with your high-quality podcast. Email me at <a href="mailto:&#109;ax&#64;m&#97;&#120;podcasting.&#99;&#111;&#109;">&#109;&#97;&#120;&#64;&#109;&#97;x&#112;&#111;dc&#97;&#115;ting&#46;c&#111;&#109;</a> to bring your podcast to life and use it as a business-building tool. Sign up for the <em>Podcasting to the Max</em> newsletter at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com</a> (bottom of the page)</li></ul></li></ul>



<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-large is-resized"><img loading="lazy" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/ToddRadom_WebsiteLogo_Gold.png" alt="Todd Radom - Wild Business Growth Podcast #202: Pro Sports Logo Designer, Branding All-Star" class="wp-image-5958" width="340" height="341" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/ToddRadom_WebsiteLogo_Gold.png 450w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/ToddRadom_WebsiteLogo_Gold-200x200@2x.png 400w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/ToddRadom_WebsiteLogo_Gold-200x200.png 200w" sizes="(max-width: 340px) 100vw, 340px" /><figcaption>Todd even has a fantastic logo himself</figcaption></figure></div>



<ul id="block-e2455cfc-8974-4c8c-9460-307439cd97ee"><li><strong>Inspiration &amp; Creativity: People, Hobbies, and Resources</strong><ul><li>[37:56] Does Todd have any must-haves when designing a logo of any sort</li><li>[38:33] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://backyardsports.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_teams" target="_blank">Humongous All-Stars</a></li><li>[39:27] And is so humble</li><li>[39:38] Is there a framework Todd typically goes with for pro sports logos</li><li>[40:03] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://zoom.us/" target="_blank">Zoom</a></li><li>[41:07] <a href="http://www.formula1.com/">Formula 1</a> (F1)</li><li>[43:12] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.ranzey.com/generators/bart/index.html" target="_blank">Bart Simpson Chalkboard</a> (Shoutout <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/nancy-cartwright/" target="_blank">Nancy</a>!)</li><li>[43:32] What makes something jump off the page at you</li><li>[44:17] How dare we</li><li>[44:28] How do clients decide which design is the winner</li><li>[45:43] How do you be and stay creative</li></ul></li><li><strong>Rapid-Fire Q&amp;A</strong><ul><li>[48:32] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://shop.nhl.com/montreal-canadiens/jerseys/t-36155277+d-94446940+z-901-800487469" target="_blank">Montreal Canadiens</a> Home Jersey</li><li>[49:08] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.mlb.com/tigers" target="_blank">Detroit Tigers</a></li><li>[50:02] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/20219881/the-history-houston-iconic-rainbow-uniforms-story-worth-telling" target="_blank">Houston Astros Rainbow Uniforms</a></li><li>[50:33] <a href="https://twitter.com/ToddRadom/status/567694692180320256?s=20&amp;t=6Sn6zhs6E006gArDWzGP8g" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Toronto Blue Jays Original Uniform Set</a></li><li>[50:47] <em><a href="https://maxpodcasting.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Modern Perfection</a></em> by Todd Radom &amp; Max Branstetter</li><li>[51:18] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://icehockey.fandom.com/wiki/Hartford_Whalers" target="_blank">Hartford Whalers</a></li><li>[51:42] What&#8217;s the hardest thing in the world to draw</li><li>[52:38] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.toddradom.com/" target="_blank">Graphic Design</a></li><li>[52:51] What&#8217;s a weird talent Todd has</li><li>[53:07] Couldn&#8217;t resist</li><li>[53:39] &#8220;<a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4UqMyldS7Q" target="_blank">It Was a Good Day</a>&#8221; by Ice Cube, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.toddradom.com/big3" target="_blank">BIG3</a></li><li>[53:51] What&#8217;s something about Ice Cube most people would be surprised by</li><li>[55:47] Connect with Todd at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.toddradom.com/" target="_blank">ToddRadom.com</a> and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/toddradom" target="_blank">Twitter</a> and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/toddradom/" target="_blank">Instagram</a> @ToddRadom</li></ul><ul><li>[56:07] What are Todd&#8217;s Final Thoughts</li></ul><ul><li>[56:37] Follow the <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">Wild Business Growth Podcast</a></em> and tell a friend about the podcast. And 5 stars on Apple Podcasts &amp; Spotify if you&#8217;re feeling super nice </li></ul><ul><li>[57:00] Check out the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast </em>on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.goodpods.com/" target="_blank">GoodPods</a>, where you can see what your favorite people are listening to</li><li>[57:04] Connect with me on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/maxbranstetter/" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/max-branstetter-74150a57/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a> @MaxBranstetter</li><li>[57:07] Save time with your high-quality podcast. Email me at <a href="mailto:m&#97;x&#64;m&#97;xp&#111;dc&#97;&#115;ti&#110;g.co&#109;">m&#97;x&#64;&#109;ax&#112;&#111;&#100;&#99;&#97;st&#105;n&#103;&#46;&#99;o&#109;</a> to bring your podcast to life and use it as a business-building tool</li><li>[57:11] Sign up for the <em>Podcasting to the Max</em> newsletter at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com</a> (bottom of the page)</li><li>Theme music: Freestyle Percussion Magik &#8211; &#8220;Jungle Tribe&#8221; &#8211; provided by Jamendo</li></ul></li></ul>



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<h2 id="podcast-summary"><strong>What is the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em>?</strong></h2>



<p>Wild ideas. Wild growth. Every Wednesday morning a new entrepreneur joins the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em> to share the wildly creative and unusual ways they grew their business &#8211; and teaches you how to do it, too. Hear the minds behind WordPress, Stacy&#8217;s Pita Chips, Drybar, the voice of Bart Simpson, and more wild stories. Hosted by <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/about/" target="_blank">Max Branstetter</a> (that&#8217;s me), Founder and Podcast Producer at MaxPodcasting.</p>



<h2><strong>How do you start a podcast?</strong></h2>



<p>Interested in starting a professional-sounding podcast for your brand, but don&#8217;t want to deal with the time commitment of all those behind-the-scenes details? I’ve got you covered. Email me at <a href="mailto:ma&#120;&#64;&#109;&#97;xpo&#100;c&#97;&#115;&#116;&#105;&#110;g.&#99;&#111;m">&#109;&#97;x&#64;&#109;ax&#112;&#111;d&#99;&#97;st&#105;ng&#46;com</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool.</p>



<p>Thanks for listening to Todd Radom on the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast. </em>To hear more Wild stories like this one every Wednesday morning, follow the <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">Wild Business Growth Podcast</a></em> and tell a friend about it. And doodle some new sports logo ideas with them until 3am. Until next time, Let your business Run Wild&#8230;and <em><strong>Bring on the Bongos!!</strong></em></p>
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		<title>David Brier &#8211; Wild Business Growth Podcast #177: Sarcastic Rebrander, Brand Intervention</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Max Branstetter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jan 2022 08:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<category><![CDATA[Brand Intervention]]></category>
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		<category><![CDATA[David Brier]]></category>
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					<description><![CDATA[David Brier, Google's #1 Rebranding Expert and Bestselling Author of Brand Intervention, joins the Wild Business Growth Podcast to share his journey from defiant baby to top rebranding expert featured in Fast Company, Forbes, Adweek, and Inc.]]></description>
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<p class="has-drop-cap">Sometimes you need a rebrand. Like, if your industry is booming and you&#8217;re falling behind. Or, if people have no idea what main service you provide. These warning signs are identified and torn to pieces by this week&#8217;s <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">Wild Business Growth Podcast</a></em> guest, David Brier. David is Google&#8217;s #1 Rebranding Expert and the Bestselling Author of <em>Brand Intervention</em>. Listen to the episode on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wild-business-growth-podcast/id1422144338?mt=2" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6mSUsqYobBljhKIuK9sKJV" target="_blank">Spotify</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://podcasts.google.com/?feed=aHR0cDovL3dpbGRidXNpbmVzc2dyb3d0aHBvZGNhc3QubGlic3luLmNvbS9yc3M%3D" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a>, and your other favorite <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">podcast platforms</a>.</p>



<ul><li><a href="#episode-summary">Episode Summary &amp; Player</a></li><li><a href="#show-notes">Show Notes</a></li><li><a href="#podcast-summary"><em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em> Summary</a></li></ul>



<h2 id="episode-summary"><strong>Episode 177: David Brier &#8211; Sarcastic Rebrander, Brand Intervention</strong></h2>



<p>David Brier, Google&#8217;s #1 Rebranding Expert and Bestselling Author of Brand Intervention, joins the show to share his journey from defiant baby to top rebranding expert featured in Fast Company, Forbes, Adweek, and Inc. Hear the best time to rebrand, how to find your best differentiator, whether to change your logo, how to keep the optimism, and David turning into the Duluth Trading guy. This episode covers everything from horror movie sound effects to taking on more work. Here&#8217;s a small sample of what you will hear in this episode:</p>



<ul><li>How did David develop his assertive voice</li><li>What element of design does he like the best</li><li>How do you get started on a brand intervention/rebrand</li><li>The Bullshit Competition</li><li>What&#8217;s the #1 thing you should not do when rebranding</li><li>How do you keep tremendous energy</li><li>Has David ever gone an entire day speaking like the Duluth Trading guy</li><li>What would be his special talent in a traveling circus</li></ul>



<p>Connect with David at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.risingabovethenoise.com/" target="_blank">RisingAboveTheNoise.com</a> and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidbrier" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a>.</p>



<p>Enjoy the shoooooow! Check out the show notes below for much more detail.</p>



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<h2 id="show-notes"><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2>



<ul><li><strong>Intro &amp; Branding</strong><ul><li>[0:34] Email me at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="mailto:&#109;a&#120;&#64;hi&#112;&#112;&#111;&#100;&#105;rec&#116;.&#99;o&#109;" target="_blank">&#109;&#97;x&#64;m&#97;&#120;po&#100;c&#97;st&#105;ng.&#99;&#111;m</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool</li><li>[0:39] Connect with David at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.risingabovethenoise.com/" target="_blank">RisingAboveTheNoise.com</a> and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidbrier" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a></li></ul><ul><li>[1:47] What was David&#8217;s birth name</li><li>[2:07] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.google.com/" target="_blank">Google</a></li><li>[2:31] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://calendly.com/maxpodcasting" target="_blank">Calendly</a></li><li>[2:47] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.ironman.com/" target="_blank">IRONMAN</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.nyrr.org/tcsnycmarathon" target="_blank">Marathon</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/D/DonaAa00.htm" target="_blank">Aaron Donald</a></li><li>[3:10] How did David develop his assertive voice</li><li>[3:58] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://gothamist.com/arts-entertainment/tourists-flood-joker-stairs-frustrating-bronx-residents#:~:text=in%20the%20Bronx.-,Tourists%20and%20sightseers%20take%20photos%20at,Joker%20stairs%22%20in%20the%20Bronx.&amp;text=Thanks%20to%20Joaquin%20Phoenix's%20dance,New%20York%20City%20right%20now." target="_blank">The New York Stair</a></li><li>[4:48] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.risingabovethenoise.com/" target="_blank">Brand</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.risingabovethenoise.com/" target="_blank">Branding Experts</a></li><li>[4:55] What pulled David into the branding space</li><li>[5:10] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.snhu.edu/about-us/newsroom/liberal-arts/what-is-an-associate-of-arts-degree#:~:text=An%20Associate%20of%20Arts%20or,social%20sciences%20and%20liberal%20arts." target="_blank">Associate of Arts Degree</a></li><li>[5:53] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://material.io/design/typography/understanding-typography.html" target="_blank">Typography</a></li></ul><ul><li>[6:28] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.careerexplorer.com/careers/art-director/" target="_blank">Art Director</a></li><li>[7:23] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphony_No._9_(Beethoven)" target="_blank">Beethoven&#8217;s IX</a></li><li>[7:32] Miles Davis <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kind_of_Blue" target="_blank">Kind of Blue</a></em></li><li>[7:47] Beethoven&#8217;s IX <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphony_No._9_(Beethoven)" target="_blank">is about 70 minutes</a>! Pulled that out of my ass</li><li>[8:08] What element of design does David like the best</li><li>[8:27] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.warhol.org/" target="_blank">Andy Warhol</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://petermax.com/" target="_blank">Peter Max</a></li><li>[9:02] In a world.</li><li>[10:23] <a href="https://www.henson.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Jim Henson</a>, <em><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085017/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Fraggle Rock</a></em>, <em><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/section/magazine" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The New York Times Magazine</a></em>, <em><a href="https://www.rollingstone.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Rolling Stone Magazine</a></em></li></ul></li></ul>



<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-large"><img loading="lazy" width="1024" height="711" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/IMG_7384-1024x711.jpg" alt="David Brier - Wild Business Growth Podcast #177: Sarcastic Rebrander, Brand Intervention" class="wp-image-5232" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/IMG_7384-1024x711.jpg 1024w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/IMG_7384-400x278.jpg 400w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/IMG_7384-768x533.jpg 768w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/IMG_7384-500x347.jpg 500w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/IMG_7384-400x278@2x.jpg 800w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/IMG_7384-1280x889.jpg 1280w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/IMG_7384-1920x1333.jpg 1920w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/IMG_7384-768x533@2x.jpg 1536w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/IMG_7384-1024x711@2x.jpg 2048w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/IMG_7384-500x347@2x.jpg 1000w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/IMG_7384-800x555@2x.jpg 1600w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/IMG_7384-1280x889@2x.jpg 2560w" sizes="(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px" /><figcaption>Brand &amp; Bran(d)stetter</figcaption></figure></div>



<ul id="block-baade927-068a-4c27-9f19-e7e74b0a4476"><li><strong>Rebranding</strong> <strong>&amp; <em>Brand Intervention</em></strong><ul><li>[10:56] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.amazon.com/Brand-Intervention-Steps-Transform-Have/dp/0999529706" target="_blank">Brand Intervention</a></em></li><li>[11:12] When is a good time to rebrand</li><li>[11:29] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://blog.hubspot.com/sales/solopreneur" target="_blank">Solopreneur</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.fool.com/investing/stock-market/basics/publicly-traded-companies/" target="_blank">Publicly-Traded Company</a></li><li>[12:13] <a href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/m/market-segment.asp#:~:text=A%20market%20segment%20is%20a,for%20their%20products%20and%20services.">Market Segment</a></li><li>[13:44] Pigeonholedom</li><li>[13:51] What are some warning signs you need a rebrand</li><li>[14:06] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://smallbusiness.chron.com/difference-between-customer-vs-client-56387.html" target="_blank">Clients</a></li><li>[14:34] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://smallbusiness.chron.com/difference-between-customer-vs-client-56387.html" target="_blank">Customers</a></li><li>[14:43] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/ceo.asp" target="_blank">CEO</a> (Chief Executive Officer)</li><li>[14:51] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/b/brand-loyalty.asp#:~:text=Brand%20loyalty%20is%20the%20positive,efforts%20to%20lure%20them%20away." target="_blank">Brand Loyalty</a></li><li>[15:06] Here we go again</li><li>[15:40] How do you get started on a brand intervention/rebrand</li><li>[15:58] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.britannica.com/technology/technology" target="_blank">Technology</a> (Tech), <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/042715/how-do-subscription-business-models-work.asp" target="_blank">Subscriber</a></li><li>[16:27] Those are some pastries</li><li>[17:37] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://blog.hubspot.com/marketing/inspiring-company-mission-statements" target="_blank">Mission Statement</a></li><li>[17:47] If you build it, they will come</li><li>[18:07] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/maxbranstetter" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.socialmediaexaminer.com/" target="_blank">Social Media</a></li><li>[18:29] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.rd.com/article/fresh-krispy-kreme-doughnuts/" target="_blank">Hot Fresh Krispy Kreme</a></li><li>[18:44] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.smartkarrot.com/resources/blog/consumer-vs-customer/" target="_blank">Consumer</a></li><li>[19:07] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://marketbusinessnews.com/financial-glossary/competitor-definition-meaning/#:~:text=Two%20companies%20that%20operate%20in,same%20consumers%2C%20are%20competitors.%E2%80%9D" target="_blank">Competitors</a></li><li>[19:15] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvktbdKzsq4" target="_blank">Sharon Stone</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvktbdKzsq4" target="_blank">Michael Douglas</a></li><li>[19:37] How do you find the best brand differentiator for you (or differentior)</li><li>[19:58] The Bullshit Competition</li><li>[20:08] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81040344" target="_blank">Squid Game</a></em></li><li>[20:18] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/startup.asp" target="_blank">Startup</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.apple.com/" target="_blank">Apple</a></li><li>[21:51] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098904/" target="_blank">Seinfeld</a></em>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3xwFanvTjA" target="_blank">The Ugly Baby</a></li><li>[22:24] How important is revitalizing your <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://logo.com/" target="_blank">logo</a> in a rebrand</li><li>[23:05] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/b/brandequity.asp#:~:text=Brand%20equity%20refers%20to%20a,compared%20to%20a%20generic%20equivalent.&amp;text=When%20a%20company%20has%20positive,from%20a%20competitor%20for%20less." target="_blank">Equity</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.toysrus.com/" target="_blank">Toys&#8221;R&#8221;Us</a></li><li>[23:35] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://hero.fandom.com/wiki/Geoffrey_the_Giraffe_(Toys_%E2%80%9CR%E2%80%9D_Us)#:~:text=Geoffrey%20the%20Giraffe%20is%20the,%2C%20Toys%20%E2%80%9CR%E2%80%9D%20Us." target="_blank">Geoffrey The Frickin&#8217; Giraffe</a></li><li>[25:05] He got me</li><li>[25:22] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://davidblaine.com/" target="_blank">David Blaine</a></li><li>[25:33] What&#8217;s the #1 thing you should not do when rebranding</li><li>[26:27] Save time with your high-quality podcast. Email me at <a href="mailto:&#109;&#97;&#120;&#64;maxpo&#100;cast&#105;&#110;&#103;.&#99;&#111;&#109;">&#109;&#97;&#120;&#64;&#109;a&#120;&#112;od&#99;&#97;sti&#110;g.&#99;&#111;m</a> to bring your podcast to life and use it as a business-building tool</li></ul></li><li><strong>Inspiration &amp; Creativity: People, Hobbies, and Resources</strong><ul><li>[27:33] How do you keep tremendous energy</li><li>[29:47] PREACH</li><li>[30:21] What would you say to a pessimistic person</li><li>[31:05] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.goto.com/resources/what-is-a-webinar" target="_blank">Webinar</a></li><li>[31:36] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://nealschaffer.com/what-is-a-sphere-of-influence/" target="_blank">Sphere of Influence</a></li><li>[32:13] Shoutout those 18 minutes</li><li>[32:22] I&#8217;m <em>never</em> guilty of this</li></ul></li></ul>



<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-full is-resized"><img loading="lazy" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/David-Brier-Brand-Intervention-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-177-Sarcastic-Rebrander-Brand-Intervention.jpg" alt="David Brier - Wild Business Growth Podcast #177: Sarcastic Rebrander, Brand Intervention" class="wp-image-5235" width="446" height="484" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/David-Brier-Brand-Intervention-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-177-Sarcastic-Rebrander-Brand-Intervention.jpg 1400w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/David-Brier-Brand-Intervention-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-177-Sarcastic-Rebrander-Brand-Intervention-368x400.jpg 368w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/David-Brier-Brand-Intervention-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-177-Sarcastic-Rebrander-Brand-Intervention-943x1024.jpg 943w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/David-Brier-Brand-Intervention-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-177-Sarcastic-Rebrander-Brand-Intervention-768x834.jpg 768w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/David-Brier-Brand-Intervention-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-177-Sarcastic-Rebrander-Brand-Intervention-500x543.jpg 500w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/David-Brier-Brand-Intervention-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-177-Sarcastic-Rebrander-Brand-Intervention-800x869.jpg 800w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/David-Brier-Brand-Intervention-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-177-Sarcastic-Rebrander-Brand-Intervention-1280x1390.jpg 1280w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/David-Brier-Brand-Intervention-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-177-Sarcastic-Rebrander-Brand-Intervention-368x400@2x.jpg 736w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/David-Brier-Brand-Intervention-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-177-Sarcastic-Rebrander-Brand-Intervention-500x543@2x.jpg 1000w" sizes="(max-width: 446px) 100vw, 446px" /></figure></div>



<ul id="block-baade927-068a-4c27-9f19-e7e74b0a4476"><li><strong>Wild Business Shoutout of the Week</strong><ul><li>[33:12] Excellent shoutout to <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gdX6sycuWI" target="_blank">Wayne&#8217;s World</a></em></li><li>[33:19] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.ayoa.com/ourblog/creativity-in-marketing-the-secret-ingredient-youve-probably-not-considered/#:~:text=Creative%20marketing%20is%20the%20generation,rather%20than%20outspending%2C%20your%20competition." target="_blank">Creative Marketing</a></li></ul><ul><li>[33:25] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.duluthtrading.com/TV+Ads.html" target="_blank">Duluth Trading Commercials</a></li><li>[33:41] Bravo</li><li>[35:11] Has David ever gone an entire day speaking like that</li><li>[35:26] <em>ouuuuuuch</em> </li></ul></li><li><strong>Rapid-Fire Q&amp;A</strong><ul><li>[35:54] What was <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://daymondjohn.com/" target="_blank">Daymond John</a>&#8216;s reaction to David asking him to write the foreword to his book</li><li>[36:38] Premature Reciprocation</li><li>[37:13] How do you create a <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.risingabovethenoise.com/start-here/the-1-alexa-skill-on-branding-and-rebranding/" target="_blank">top Alexa skill</a></li><li>[38:20] Recovering Typoholic</li><li>[38:56] <a href="https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Work+Sans" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Work Sans</a></li><li>[39:21] What would be David&#8217;s special talent in a traveling circus</li><li>[39:59] Connect with David at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.risingabovethenoise.com/" target="_blank">RisingAboveTheNoise.com</a> and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidbrier" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a></li><li>[40:50] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.benihana.com/" target="_blank">Benihana</a></li><li>[41:02] What are David&#8217;s Final Thoughts</li></ul><ul><li>[42:43] Follow the <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">Wild Business Growth Podcast</a></em> and tell a friend about the podcast. And 5 stars on Apple Podcasts &amp; Spotify if you dare</li></ul><ul><li>[42:54] Check out the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast </em>on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.goodpods.com/" target="_blank">GoodPods</a>, where you can see what your favorite people are listening to</li><li>[42:57] Connect with me on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/maxbranstetter/" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/max-branstetter-74150a57/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a> at @MaxBranstetter</li><li>[43:00] Save time with your high-quality podcast. Email me at <a href="mailto:max&#64;&#109;a&#120;pod&#99;as&#116;&#105;ng&#46;&#99;&#111;m">max&#64;&#109;ax&#112;odc&#97;&#115;&#116;i&#110;&#103;.&#99;o&#109;</a> to bring your podcast to life and use it as a business-building tool</li><li>Theme music: Freestyle Percussion Magik &#8211; &#8220;Jungle Tribe&#8221; &#8211; provided by Jamendo</li></ul></li></ul>



<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-large"><img loading="lazy" width="1024" height="1024" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Max-OFFICIAL-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-1024x1024.jpg" alt="David Brier - Wild Business Growth Podcast #177: Sarcastic Rebrander, Brand Intervention" class="wp-image-2734" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Max-OFFICIAL-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Max-OFFICIAL-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-200x200@2x.jpg 400w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Max-OFFICIAL-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-200x200.jpg 200w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Max-OFFICIAL-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-768x768.jpg 768w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Max-OFFICIAL-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-500x500.jpg 500w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Max-OFFICIAL-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-400x400@2x.jpg 800w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Max-OFFICIAL-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-1280x1280.jpg 1280w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Max-OFFICIAL-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-1920x1920.jpg 1920w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Max-OFFICIAL-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-768x768@2x.jpg 1536w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Max-OFFICIAL-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-1024x1024@2x.jpg 2048w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Max-OFFICIAL-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-500x500@2x.jpg 1000w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Max-OFFICIAL-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-800x800@2x.jpg 1600w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Max-OFFICIAL-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-1280x1280@2x.jpg 2560w" sizes="(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px" /></figure></div>



<h2 id="podcast-summary"><strong>What is the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em>?</strong></h2>



<p>Wild ideas. Wild growth. Every Wednesday morning a new entrepreneur or innovator joins the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em> to share the crazy creative and unusual ways they grew their business, and provides tips for you to do it, too. Hear the woman who became the voice of Siri, the man who’s reinventing the sandcastle, how GaryVee’s partners are turning the wine world upside down, and more wild stories. Hosted by <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/about/" target="_blank">Max Branstetter</a> (that&#8217;s me), Founder and Podcast Producer at MaxPodcasting.</p>



<h2><strong>How do you start a podcast?</strong></h2>



<p>Interested in starting a professional-sounding podcast for your brand, but don&#8217;t want to deal with the time commitment of all those behind-the-scenes details? I’ve got you covered. Email me at <a href="mailto:&#109;&#97;&#120;&#64;max&#112;&#111;d&#99;a&#115;t&#105;&#110;&#103;.co&#109;">m&#97;&#120;&#64;&#109;ax&#112;odca&#115;&#116;&#105;&#110;g.c&#111;&#109;</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool.</p>



<p>Thanks for listening to David Brier on the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast. </em>To hear more Wild stories like this one every Wednesday morning, follow the <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">Wild Business Growth Podcast</a></em> and tell a friend about it. And speak in the Duluth Trading voice for 2 weeks straight. Until next time, Let your business Run Wild&#8230;and <em><strong>Bring on the Bongos!!</strong></em></p>
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		<title>Dr. Willard Wigan MBE &#8211; Wild Business Growth Podcast #174: The World&#8217;s Greatest Micro-Sculptor</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dr. Willard Wigan MBE, The World's Greatest Micro-Sculptor, joins the Wild Business Growth Podcast to share his journey from being made fun of for having Autism and Dyslexia to setting Guinness World Records and receiving an MBE from the Queen for creating the tiniest masterpieces on the planet.]]></description>
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<p class="has-drop-cap">The biggest impact can come from the smallest things. No one exemplifies this better than this week&#8217;s <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">Wild Business Growth Podcast</a></em> guest, Dr. Willard Wigan MBE. Willard is The World&#8217;s Greatest Micro-Sculptor. Listen to the episode on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wild-business-growth-podcast/id1422144338?mt=2" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6mSUsqYobBljhKIuK9sKJV" target="_blank">Spotify</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://podcasts.google.com/?feed=aHR0cDovL3dpbGRidXNpbmVzc2dyb3d0aHBvZGNhc3QubGlic3luLmNvbS9yc3M%3D" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a>, and your other favorite <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">podcast platforms</a>.</p>



<ul><li><a href="#episode-summary">Episode Summary &amp; Player</a></li><li><a href="#show-notes">Show Notes</a></li><li><a href="#podcast-summary"><em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em> Summary</a></li></ul>



<h2 id="episode-summary"><strong>Episode 174: Dr. Willard Wigan MBE – The World&#8217;s Greatest Micro-Sculptor</strong></h2>



<p>Dr. Willard Wigan MBE, The World&#8217;s Greatest Micro-Sculptor, joins the show to share his journey from being made fun of for having Autism and Dyslexia to setting Guinness World Records and receiving an MBE from the Queen for creating the tiniest masterpieces on the planet. Hear how he started creating micro-sculptures, kept going smaller and getting better, the turning point, stories behind his most memorable sculptures, and inspiration from his mom. This episode covers everything from newts to new chapters in sculpting. Here&#8217;s a small sample of what you will hear in this episode:</p>



<ul><li>Why did Willard run away from school</li><li>How&#8217;d he react to his mom telling him to go smaller</li><li>What was &#8220;the bestest&#8221;</li><li>Willard&#8217;s Dog Voice</li><li>What was the turning point for Willard</li><li>When was the first time he got praise for his art</li><li>A letter from Buckingham Palace</li><li>What message does Willard have for the world</li></ul>



<p>Connect with Willard at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.willardwiganmbe.com/" target="_blank">WillardWiganMBE.com</a> and on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/dr_willardwigan_mbe/?hl=en" target="_blank">social media</a>.</p>



<p>Enjoy the shoooooow! Check out the show notes below for much more detail.</p>



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<h2 id="show-notes"><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2>



<ul><li><strong>Intro &amp; Childhood</strong><ul><li>[0:34] Email me at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="mailto:ma&#120;&#64;&#104;&#105;&#112;&#112;odi&#114;&#101;ct.&#99;om" target="_blank">&#109;a&#120;&#64;&#109;a&#120;&#112;od&#99;a&#115;&#116;i&#110;&#103;&#46;c&#111;m</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool</li><li>[0:45] Connect with Willard at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.willardwiganmbe.com/" target="_blank">WillardWiganMBE.com</a> and on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/dr_willardwigan_mbe/?hl=en" target="_blank">social media</a></li></ul><ul><li>[3:41] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">Podcast</a></li><li>[3:59] Why did Willard run away from school</li><li>[4:20] Microscopic 🙂</li><li>[4:56] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.understood.org/articles/en/what-are-learning-thinking-differences#:~:text=Learning%20and%20thinking%20differences%20are,are%20learning%20disabilities%20like%20dyslexia." target="_blank">Learning Difference</a></li><li>[6:03] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119223/" target="_blank">Great Expectations</a></em>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Havisham" target="_blank">Miss Havisham</a></li><li>[8:12] How did it feel to run away from school</li><li>[9:35] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whirligig_beetle" target="_blank">Whirly Beetles</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.orkin.com/pests/cockroaches/how-to-tell-cockroaches-and-waterbugs-apart" target="_blank">Water Bug</a></li><li>[10:18] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.britannica.com/animal/newt" target="_blank">Newt</a></li><li>[11:10] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.autismspeaks.org/what-autism#:~:text=Autism%2C%20or%20autism%20spectrum%20disorder,in%20the%20United%20States%20today." target="_blank">Autism</a></li><li>[11:31] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069817/" target="_blank">The Borrowers</a></em></li><li>[12:38] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.lung.org/lung-health-diseases/lung-disease-lookup/pneumonia/symptoms-and-diagnosis#:~:text=Pneumonia%20is%20an%20infection%20that,fever%2C%20chills%20and%20trouble%20breathing." target="_blank">Pneumonia</a></li><li>[12:47] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/disciplinarian" target="_blank">Disciplinarian</a></li><li>[14:03] Shoutout the dog voice</li><li>[22:07] The Bestest!</li><li>[23:17] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.ecenglish.com/learnenglish/lessons/why-do-we-say-bobs-your-uncle" target="_blank">Bob&#8217;s your uncle</a>!</li><li>[24:37] When was the first time Willard got praise for his art</li><li>[27:12] How&#8217;d he react to his mom telling him to go smaller</li><li>[28:03] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.listchallenges.com/all-beatrix-potter-characters" target="_blank">Beatrix Potter Characters</a></li><li>[29:19] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Threepence_(British_coin)" target="_blank">Threepence</a> (Three Pence)</li><li>[29:31] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.xe.com/currencyconverter/convert/?Amount=1&amp;From=GBP&amp;To=USD" target="_blank">Pounds</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shilling_(British_coin)#:~:text=The%20shilling%20(1%2F%2D)%20was,pound%20sterling%2C%20or%20twelve%20pence.&amp;text=Values%20less%20than%20a%20pound,pronounced%20%22three%20and%20six%22." target="_blank">Shillings</a></li><li>[30:18] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dracula" target="_blank">Dracula</a></em>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/headmaster" target="_blank">Headmaster</a></li><li>[31:29] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.peterrabbit.com/" target="_blank">Peter Rabbit</a></li><li>[32:44] Shoutout Mrs. Brown!</li><li>[34:55] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/dyslexia/symptoms-causes/syc-20353552" target="_blank">Dyslexia</a></li><li>[36:42] <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20071018203534/http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml?xml=/arts/2007/07/07/nosplit/banano107.xml" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Willard getting his MBE from the Queen</a></li><li>[37:26] The Bad News</li><li>[37:46] <a href="https://www.willardwiganmbe.com/world-records" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Sculpture smaller than a human embryo</a></li><li>[39:56] Save time with your high-quality podcast. Email me at <a href="mailto:&#109;&#97;&#120;&#64;ma&#120;&#112;o&#100;c&#97;sti&#110;&#103;&#46;com">&#109;&#97;&#120;&#64;&#109;&#97;&#120;po&#100;&#99;a&#115;ti&#110;g.&#99;&#111;&#109;</a> to bring your podcast to life and use it as a business-building tool</li></ul></li></ul>



<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-full is-resized"><img loading="lazy" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/227878969.jpg" alt="Dr. Willard Wigan MBE Albert Einstein - Wild Business Growth Podcast #174: The World's Greatest Micro-Sculptor" class="wp-image-5143" width="375" height="563" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/227878969-500x750@2x.jpg 1000w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/227878969-267x400.jpg 267w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/227878969-683x1024.jpg 683w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/227878969-768x1152.jpg 768w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/227878969-500x750.jpg 500w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/227878969-800x1200.jpg 800w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/227878969-267x400@2x.jpg 534w" sizes="(max-width: 375px) 100vw, 375px" /><figcaption><em>Albert Einstein</em> by Dr. Willard Wigan MBE</figcaption></figure></div>



<ul id="block-baade927-068a-4c27-9f19-e7e74b0a4476"><li><strong>Willard&#8217;s Sculptures</strong><ul><li>[40:08] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.willardwiganmbe.com/world-records" target="_blank">Guinness World Records</a></li><li>[41:13] What was the turning point for Willard</li><li>[41:23] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporation_Street,_Birmingham" target="_blank">Corporation Street</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://visitbirmingham.com/" target="_blank">Birmingham, UK</a></li><li>[43:10] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://museumhack.com/artist-in-residence/#:~:text=An%20artist%2Din%2Dresidence%20is,to%20a%20year%20or%20more.&amp;text=Read%20on%20to%20explore%20how,artist%20residency%20at%20your%20museum." target="_blank">Artist in Residence</a></li></ul><ul><li>[44:37] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-36070518" target="_blank">William Shakespeare</a></li><li>[44:51] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.britishshakespeare.ws/" target="_blank">Shakespeare Society</a></li><li>[46:05] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/unemployment-rate" target="_blank">Unemployment</a></li><li>[46:21] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="http://www.thearcadian.co.uk/" target="_blank">Arcadian Centre</a></li><li>[46:42] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.willardwiganmbe.com/gallery" target="_blank">Edward &amp; Sophie <em>The Perfect Match</em></a></li><li>[46:56] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6725944/who-willard-wigan-how-artist-world-smallest-handmade-sculptures/" target="_blank">The Sun</a></em>, <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2016/mar/10/noddy-holder-through-the-eye-of-a-needle-minature-sculptures-willard-wigan-in-pictures" target="_blank">The Guardian</a></em></li><li>[47:03] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.capetownetc.com/events/arts-and-culture/tiny-art-sells-for-over-r1-8-million-the-heart-and-eye-of-the-needle/" target="_blank">Micro-Angelo</a></li><li>[47:06] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0103363/" target="_blank">The Big Breakfast</a></em></li><li>[47:23] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/kxvvu9/snow_white_and_the_7_dwarves_made_inside_a_needle/" target="_blank">Snow White &amp; The 7 Dwarfs</a></em></li><li>[47:34] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.britannica.com/place/Jersey-island-Channel-Islands-English-Channel" target="_blank">Jersey</a></li><li>[48:54] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://steemit.com/art/@bontonstory/art-tiny-world-by-willard-wigan" target="_blank">Little Miss Muffet</a></em></li><li>[49:27] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://visitbath.co.uk/" target="_blank">Bath, UK</a></li><li>[49:35] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2000/apr/13/artsfeatures1" target="_blank">Impossible Microworld</a></li><li>[50:22] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.rct.uk/visit/buckingham-palace" target="_blank">Buckingham Palace</a></li></ul><ul><li>[50:32] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.coventgarden.london/" target="_blank">Covent Garden</a></li><li>[51:29] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.amusingplanet.com/2012/03/how-many-camels-can-you-fit-inside-eye.html" target="_blank">9 camels in the eye of a needle</a></li><li>[51:40] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.pinterest.com/pin/61572719882574101/" target="_blank">Henry VIII</a></em></li><li>[51:52] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.standard.co.uk/lifestyle/the-man-who-makes-millions-from-miniature-art-6749854.html" target="_blank">Richard &amp; Judy</a></em>, <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q034SDH2HfI" target="_blank">This Morning</a></em></li><li>[53:14] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://miketyson.com/" target="_blank">Mike Tyson</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3041037/" target="_blank">Joe Egan</a></li><li>[54:53] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.willardwiganmbe.com/post/manage-your-blog-from-your-live-site" target="_blank">Honorary Doctorate</a></li><li>[55:08] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.royal.uk/the-prince-of-wales" target="_blank">Prince Charles</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://rodstewart.com/" target="_blank">Rod Stewart</a></li><li>[55:45] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scarecrow_(Oz)" target="_blank">Scarecrow from <em>The Wizard of Oz</em></a></li><li>[56:12] <em><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8702802/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">World&#8217;s Tiniest Masterpiece</a></em></li></ul></li></ul>



<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-full is-resized"><img loading="lazy" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/Willard-Wigan-4-Seasons.png" alt="Dr. Willard Wigan MBE 4 Seasons - Wild Business Growth Podcast #174: The World's Greatest Micro-Sculptor" class="wp-image-5141" width="778" height="363" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/Willard-Wigan-4-Seasons.png 1500w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/Willard-Wigan-4-Seasons-400x187.png 400w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/Willard-Wigan-4-Seasons-1024x478.png 1024w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/Willard-Wigan-4-Seasons-768x358.png 768w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/Willard-Wigan-4-Seasons-500x233.png 500w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/Willard-Wigan-4-Seasons-400x187@2x.png 800w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/Willard-Wigan-4-Seasons-1280x597.png 1280w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/Willard-Wigan-4-Seasons-500x233@2x.png 1000w" sizes="(max-width: 778px) 100vw, 778px" /><figcaption><em>4 Seasons</em> by Dr. Willard Wigan MBE</figcaption></figure></div>



<ul id="block-baade927-068a-4c27-9f19-e7e74b0a4476"><li><strong>Final Thoughts</strong><ul><li>[57:49] What message does Willard have for the world</li><li>[59:25] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://raic.org/raic/what-architect" target="_blank">Architect</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.newschool.edu/parsons/bfa-interior-design/" target="_blank">Interior Design</a></li><li>[1:00:42] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyson_Fury" target="_blank">Tyson Fury</a></li><li>[1:01:51] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.britannica.com/biography/Muhammad-Ali-boxer" target="_blank">Muhammad Ali</a></li><li>[1:02:49] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaolin_Monastery" target="_blank">Shaolin Monk</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r7wHMg5Yjg" target="_blank">Honey Badger</a></li><li>[1:03:09] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_ant" target="_blank">Army Ants</a></li><li>[1:05:41] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary,_Mary,_Quite_Contrary" target="_blank">Mary Mary, Quite Contrary</a></li><li>[1:06:58] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.willardwiganmbe.com/gallery" target="_blank">Queen Crown</a></li><li>[1:09:52] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://birmingham-cag.uk/willard-wigan-mbe/" target="_blank">Birmingham Contemporary Art Gallery Exhibition</a></li><li>[1:10:47] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.willardwiganmbe.com/collaberate" target="_blank">Commission Work</a></li><li>[1:10:23] <a href="https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EyePop" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Eye-Popping Cartoons</a></li><li>[1:11:17] Connect with Willard at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.willardwiganmbe.com/" target="_blank">WillardWiganMBE.com</a> and on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/dr_willardwigan_mbe/?hl=en" target="_blank">social media</a></li><li>[1:11:50] What are Willard&#8217;s Final Thoughts</li></ul><ul><li>[1:12:45] Follow the <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">Wild Business Growth Podcast</a></em> and tell a friend about the podcast</li></ul><ul><li>[1:12:53] Check out the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast </em>on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.goodpods.com/" target="_blank">GoodPods</a>, where you can see what your favorite people are listening to</li><li>[1:12:57] Connect with me on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/maxbranstetter/" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/max-branstetter-74150a57/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a> at @MaxBranstetter</li><li>[1:12:59] Save time with your high-quality podcast. Email me at <a href="mailto:&#109;ax&#64;&#109;&#97;x&#112;od&#99;a&#115;tin&#103;&#46;c&#111;m">m&#97;x&#64;m&#97;&#120;&#112;o&#100;ca&#115;t&#105;ng&#46;c&#111;&#109;</a> to bring your podcast to life and use it as a business-building tool</li><li>Theme music: Freestyle Percussion Magik &#8211; &#8220;Jungle Tribe&#8221; &#8211; provided by Jamendo</li></ul></li></ul>



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<h2 id="podcast-summary"><strong>What is the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em>?</strong></h2>



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		<title>Marije Vogelzang &#8211; Wild Business Growth Podcast #164: Eating Designer, The Dutch Institute of Food &#038; Design</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Oct 2021 13:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<category><![CDATA[Design]]></category>
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		<category><![CDATA[Marije Vogelzang]]></category>
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					<description><![CDATA[Marije Vogelzang, the Founder of The Dutch Institute of Food &#038; Design and Head of Studio Living Matter at Design Academy Eindhoven, joins the Wild Business Growth Podcast to share her journey from wanting to play with food as a kid to playing with food for her career.]]></description>
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<blockquote class="wp-block-quote"><p>&#8220;What is food, really?&#8221; </p></blockquote>



<p class="has-drop-cap">That&#8217;s a question you&#8217;ve probably never thought of before. This week&#8217;s <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">Wild Business Growth Podcast</a></em> guest, Marije Vogelzang, experiments very deeply into this fascinating subject matter. Marije is the Founder of The Dutch Institute of Food &amp; Design and Head of Studio Living Matter at Design Academy Eindhoven. Listen to the episode on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wild-business-growth-podcast/id1422144338?mt=2" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6mSUsqYobBljhKIuK9sKJV" target="_blank">Spotify</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://podcasts.google.com/?feed=aHR0cDovL3dpbGRidXNpbmVzc2dyb3d0aHBvZGNhc3QubGlic3luLmNvbS9yc3M%3D" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a>, and your other favorite <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">podcast platforms</a>.</p>



<ul><li><a href="#episode-summary">Episode Summary &amp; Player</a></li><li><a href="#show-notes">Show Notes</a></li><li><a href="#podcast-summary"><em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em> Summary</a></li></ul>



<h2 id="episode-summary"><strong>Episode 164: Marije Vogelzang – Eating Designer, The Dutch Institute of Food &amp; Design</strong></h2>



<p>Marije Vogelzang, the Founder of The Dutch Institute of Food &amp; Design and Head of Studio Living Matter at Design Academy Eindhoven, joins the show to share her journey from wanting to play with food as a kid to playing with food for her career. Hear the most fascinating food design experiments Marije has produced, why our lips are so important to the eating experience, what it’s like eating hairy tofu, how to take notes in the shower, and the most difficult Dutch word to pronounce. This episode covers everything from sharing food to mating shrimp. Here&#8217;s a small sample of what you will hear in this episode:</p>



<ul><li>When did Marije know she wanted to pursue food as a big part of her career</li><li>What is The Dutch Institute of Food &amp; Design</li><li>The Evil Food Genius</li><li>What is Pasta Sauna</li><li>How do participants typically react to Marije&#8217;s installations</li><li>Wonky Vegetables</li><li>What&#8217;s a surprising fun fact about food</li><li>Alpha Theta Brainwaves</li></ul>



<p>Connect with Marije on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/marije_vogelzang/?hl=en" target="_blank">Instagram</a> at @Marije_Vogelzang and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.marijevogelzang.nl/" target="_blank">MarijeVogelzang.NL</a>.</p>



<p>Enjoy the shoooooow! Check out the show notes below for much more detail.</p>



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<h2 id="show-notes"><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2>



<ul><li><strong>Intro &amp; Food</strong><ul><li>[0:33] Email me at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="mailto:&#109;ax&#64;hi&#112;p&#111;d&#105;r&#101;ct.&#99;om" target="_blank">&#109;&#97;&#120;&#64;&#109;&#97;xp&#111;dca&#115;&#116;&#105;ng&#46;co&#109;</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool</li><li>[0:43] &#8220;<a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCTunqv1Xt4" target="_blank">When I&#8217;m Sixty Four</a>&#8221; by The Beatles</li></ul><ul><li>[0:45] Connect with Marije on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/marije_vogelzang/?hl=en" target="_blank">Instagram</a> at @Marije_Vogelzang and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.marijevogelzang.nl/" target="_blank">MarijeVogelzang.NL</a></li><li>[1:55] What a sad attempt</li><li>[2:42] What is <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.marijevogelzang.nl/designs/" target="_blank">Eating Design</a></li><li>[3:09] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.thebalancecareers.com/creative-thinking-definition-with-examples-2063744" target="_blank">Creative Thinking</a></li><li>[3:25] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.foodnetwork.com/" target="_blank">Food Network</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.tlc.com/" target="_blank">TLC</a> (The Learning Channel)</li><li>[3:37] When did Marije first get passionate about food</li><li>[3:57] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.marijevogelzang.nl/designs/" target="_blank">Design</a></li><li>[5:14] When did Marije know she wanted to pursue food as a big part of her career</li><li>[6:19] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smopqTC6yAc" target="_blank">White Funeral Meal</a></li><li>[7:11] Is that the first time Marije put together an exhibit about food</li></ul></li><li><strong>Eating Design &amp; Food Design Experiments</strong><ul><li>[8:15] This is how the segue gets made</li><li>[8:18] What is <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://thedifd.com/" target="_blank">The Dutch Institute of Food &amp; Design</a> (DIFD)</li><li>[8:49] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://thedifd.com/" target="_blank">Network</a></li><li>[10:12] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Packaging_and_labeling" target="_blank">Packaging</a></li><li>[11:13] What is <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.marijevogelzang.nl/past-projects/pasta-sauna/" target="_blank">Pasta Sauna</a></li><li>[11:19] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/garage%20band#:~:text=%3A%20an%20amateur%20rock%20band%20typically,having%20only%20a%20local%20audience" target="_blank">Garage Band</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-lists/readers-poll-the-best-punk-rock-bands-of-all-time-15225/" target="_blank">Punk Rock</a></li><li>[11:32] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.flavorwire.com/48320/performa-09-pasta-sauna" target="_blank">Performa</a></li><li>[11:42] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.tate.org.uk/art/art-terms/f/futurism" target="_blank">Futurist Art Movement</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.britannica.com/biography/Filippo-Tommaso-Marinetti" target="_blank">Filippo Tommaso Marinetti</a>, <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.societyforasianart.org/sites/default/files/manifesto_futurista.pdf" target="_blank">The Manifesto of Futurism</a> </em>by Filippo Tommaso Marinetti</li><li>[12:48] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://nutritionsciencedegree.org/what-is-nutrition-science/" target="_blank">Dietary Science</a></li></ul><ul><li>[15:49] What is <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.marijevogelzang.nl/past-projects/grazing-city-scapes/" target="_blank">Grazing City Scapes</a></li><li>[17:19] So awkward</li><li>[18:54] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/healthiest-beans-legumes" target="_blank">Legumes</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.loveandlemons.com/what-are-leeks/" target="_blank">Leeks</a></li><li>[19:30] Shoutout our favorite <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/views/instant-pot-brothy-farro-with-sausage-and-leeks" target="_blank">Leeks</a> recipe!</li><li>[20:20] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">Podcast</a></li><li>[20:28] What is <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.marijevogelzang.nl/past-projects/sharing-dinner/" target="_blank">Sharing Dinner</a></li><li>[20:54] How cliché</li><li>[25:25] The Evil Food Genius</li><li>[26:01] Check out all the installations on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.marijevogelzang.nl/about/past-projects/" target="_blank">Marije&#8217;s website</a></li><li>[26:04] How do participants typically react to Marije&#8217;s installations</li><li>[27:27] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/public-speaking" target="_blank">Public Speaking Class</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://magnettheater.com/class/free-improv-class/" target="_blank">Improv Class</a></li><li>[27:42] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://positivepsychology.com/comfort-zone/" target="_blank">Comfort Zone</a></li><li>[28:09] How does it feel to play with your food for a living</li><li>[29:10] Huge Living Octopus Guy</li><li>[30:05] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.simplypsychology.org/whatispsychology.html#:~:text=Psychology%20is%20the%20scientific%20study,social%20behavior%20and%20cognitive%20processes." target="_blank">Psychology</a></li><li>[30:53] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.marketo.com/digital-marketing/#:~:text=At%20a%20high%20level%2C%20digital,goods%2C%20services%2C%20and%20brands." target="_blank">Digital World</a></li><li>[31:08] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.sustain.ucla.edu/what-is-sustainability/" target="_blank">Sustainable</a></li><li>[31:23] Save time with your high-quality podcast. Email me at <a href="mailto:&#109;a&#120;&#64;&#109;a&#120;p&#111;dca&#115;ti&#110;g.&#99;o&#109;">&#109;ax&#64;ma&#120;&#112;o&#100;&#99;&#97;&#115;t&#105;&#110;g&#46;com</a> to bring your podcast to life and use it as a business-building tool</li></ul></li></ul>



<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-large"><img loading="lazy" width="1024" height="712" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/IMG_6920-1024x712.jpg" alt="Marije Vogelzang - Wild Business Growth Podcast #164: Eating Designer, The Dutch Institute of Food &amp; Design" class="wp-image-4892" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/IMG_6920-1024x712.jpg 1024w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/IMG_6920-400x278.jpg 400w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/IMG_6920-768x534.jpg 768w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/IMG_6920-500x348.jpg 500w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/IMG_6920-400x278@2x.jpg 800w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/IMG_6920-1280x890.jpg 1280w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/IMG_6920-1920x1335.jpg 1920w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/IMG_6920-768x534@2x.jpg 1536w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/IMG_6920-1024x712@2x.jpg 2048w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/IMG_6920-500x348@2x.jpg 1000w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/IMG_6920-800x556@2x.jpg 1600w" sizes="(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px" /><figcaption>Vogelzang means &#8220;Birdsong&#8221;, hence the birds and songs </figcaption></figure></div>



<ul><li><strong>Wild Business Shoutout of the Week</strong><ul><li>[32:27] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://simplicable.com/new/creative-marketing#:~:text=Creative%20marketing%20is%20the%20process,products%20in%20an%20inspiring%20experience." target="_blank">Creative Marketing</a></li></ul><ul><li>[32:31] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.wonkyfoodco.com/" target="_blank">Wonky Vegetables</a></li><li>[33:03] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://wonkybox.nz/" target="_blank">Wonky Vegetable Box</a></li><li>[33:11] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.smartkarrot.com/resources/blog/consumer-vs-customer/#:~:text=Meaning%3A%20While%20a%20consumer%20is,a%20family%20or%20a%20mass." target="_blank">Consumers</a></li><li>[33:27] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.ama.org/the-definition-of-marketing-what-is-marketing/" target="_blank">Marketing</a></li><li>[34:00] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.socialmediaexaminer.com/" target="_blank">Social Media</a></li><li>[34:08] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.buzzfeed.com/arielknutson/people-who-found-jesus-in-their-food" target="_blank">Jesus in French Toast</a></li></ul></li></ul>



<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-vp_lg is-resized"><img loading="lazy" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Marije-Vogelzang-Tall-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-164-Eating-Designer-The-Dutch-Institute-of-Food-Design-1280x1792.jpg" alt="Marije Vogelzang - Wild Business Growth Podcast #164: Eating Designer, The Dutch Institute of Food &amp; Design" class="wp-image-4896" width="445" height="623" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Marije-Vogelzang-Tall-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-164-Eating-Designer-The-Dutch-Institute-of-Food-Design-1280x1792.jpg 1280w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Marije-Vogelzang-Tall-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-164-Eating-Designer-The-Dutch-Institute-of-Food-Design-286x400.jpg 286w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Marije-Vogelzang-Tall-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-164-Eating-Designer-The-Dutch-Institute-of-Food-Design-731x1024.jpg 731w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Marije-Vogelzang-Tall-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-164-Eating-Designer-The-Dutch-Institute-of-Food-Design-768x1075.jpg 768w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Marije-Vogelzang-Tall-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-164-Eating-Designer-The-Dutch-Institute-of-Food-Design-500x700.jpg 500w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Marije-Vogelzang-Tall-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-164-Eating-Designer-The-Dutch-Institute-of-Food-Design-800x1120.jpg 800w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Marije-Vogelzang-Tall-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-164-Eating-Designer-The-Dutch-Institute-of-Food-Design-1920x2688.jpg 1920w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Marije-Vogelzang-Tall-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-164-Eating-Designer-The-Dutch-Institute-of-Food-Design-1097x1536.jpg 1097w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Marije-Vogelzang-Tall-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-164-Eating-Designer-The-Dutch-Institute-of-Food-Design-1463x2048.jpg 1463w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Marije-Vogelzang-Tall-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-164-Eating-Designer-The-Dutch-Institute-of-Food-Design-scaled.jpg 1828w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Marije-Vogelzang-Tall-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-164-Eating-Designer-The-Dutch-Institute-of-Food-Design-286x400@2x.jpg 572w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Marije-Vogelzang-Tall-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-164-Eating-Designer-The-Dutch-Institute-of-Food-Design-731x1024@2x.jpg 1462w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Marije-Vogelzang-Tall-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-164-Eating-Designer-The-Dutch-Institute-of-Food-Design-768x1075@2x.jpg 1536w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Marije-Vogelzang-Tall-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-164-Eating-Designer-The-Dutch-Institute-of-Food-Design-500x700@2x.jpg 1000w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Marije-Vogelzang-Tall-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-164-Eating-Designer-The-Dutch-Institute-of-Food-Design-800x1120@2x.jpg 1600w" sizes="(max-width: 445px) 100vw, 445px" /><figcaption>Marije does this all the time, I&#8217;m sure (Image by Hilde Harshagen)</figcaption></figure></div>



<ul><li><strong>Rapid-Fire Q&amp;A</strong><ul><li>[35:28] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.facebook.com/goldthread2/videos/why-is-this-chinese-tofu-hairy/2419672651389004/#:~:text=Hairy%20tofu%20is%2C%20well%2C%20tofu,it%20braised%20or%20pan%2Dfried." target="_blank">Hairy Tofu</a></li><li>[35:53] What&#8217;s a surprising fun fact about food</li><li>[38:01] Fun Fact: We did have <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://boulderlocavore.com/instant-pot-jambalaya/" target="_blank">shrimp</a> tonight</li><li>[38:33] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-is-the-function-of-t-1997-12-22/" target="_blank">Alpha Theta Brainwaves</a></li><li>[38:35] <a href="https://www.myaquanotes.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">AquaNotes</a></li><li>[38:55] <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/Showerthoughts/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Shower Thoughts</a></li><li>[39:04] <a href="https://www.mindful.org/how-to-meditate/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Meditation</a></li><li>[39:30] Shoutout Harry Tofu</li><li>[40:02] What&#8217;s the most difficult Dutch word to pronounce for native English speakers</li><li>[40:24] No idea</li><li>[40:51] Connect with Marije on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/marije_vogelzang/?hl=en" target="_blank">Instagram</a> at @Marije_Vogelzang and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.marijevogelzang.nl/" target="_blank">MarijeVogelzang.NL</a></li><li>[41:14] <a href="https://www.google.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Google</a></li><li>[41:44] What are Marije&#8217;s Final Thoughts</li></ul><ul><li>[43:06] Follow the <em style="color: var(--color); font-family: var(--fontFamily); font-size: var(--fontSize); font-weight: var(--fontWeight); letter-spacing: var(--letterSpacing); text-transform: var(--textTransform);"><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">Wild Business Growth Podcast</a></em><span style="color: var(--color); font-family: var(--fontFamily); font-size: var(--fontSize); font-style: var(--fontStyle, inherit); font-weight: var(--fontWeight); letter-spacing: var(--letterSpacing); text-transform: var(--textTransform);"> and tell a friend about the podcast</span></li></ul><ul><li>[43:20] Check out the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast </em>on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.goodpods.com/" target="_blank">GoodPods</a>, where you can see what your favorite people are listening to</li><li>[43:23] Connect with me on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/maxbranstetter/" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/max-branstetter-74150a57/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a> at @MaxBranstetter</li><li>[43:25] Save time with your high-quality podcast. Email me at <a href="mailto:&#109;&#97;&#120;&#64;&#109;&#97;x&#112;odc&#97;&#115;ting.&#99;o&#109;">&#109;a&#120;&#64;m&#97;&#120;&#112;&#111;dcas&#116;&#105;n&#103;&#46;&#99;&#111;m</a> to bring your podcast to life and use it as a business-building tool</li><li>Theme music: Freestyle Percussion Magik &#8211; &#8220;Jungle Tribe&#8221; &#8211; provided by Jamendo</li></ul></li></ul>



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<h2 id="podcast-summary"><strong>What is the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em>?</strong></h2>



<p>Wild ideas. Wild growth. Every Wednesday morning a new entrepreneur or innovator joins the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em> to share the crazy creative and unusual ways they grew their business, and provides tips for you to do it, too. Hear the woman who became the voice of Siri, the man who’s reinventing the sandcastle, how GaryVee’s partners are turning the wine world upside down, and more wild stories. Hosted by <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/about/" target="_blank">Max Branstetter</a> (that&#8217;s me), Founder and Podcast Producer at MaxPodcasting.</p>



<h2><strong>How do you start a podcast?</strong></h2>



<p>Interested in starting a professional-sounding podcast for your brand, but don&#8217;t want to deal with the time commitment of all those behind-the-scenes details? I’ve got you covered. Email me at <a href="mailto:&#109;&#97;&#120;&#64;ma&#120;p&#111;&#100;&#99;&#97;sti&#110;&#103;.co&#109;">&#109;&#97;&#120;&#64;&#109;&#97;xpodcast&#105;ng&#46;&#99;&#111;&#109;</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool.</p>



<p>Thanks for listening to Marije Vogelzang on the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast. </em>To hear more Wild stories like this one every Wednesday morning, follow the <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">Wild Business Growth Podcast</a></em> and tell a friend about it. They will give you food, maybe. Until next time, Let your business Run Wild&#8230;and <em><strong>Bring on the Bongos!!</strong></em></p>
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