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					<description><![CDATA[Aytekin Tank, the Founder and CEO of Jotform and Bestselling Author of Automate Your Busywork, joins the Wild Business Growth Podcast to share his journey from using the school computer on weekends to creating online forms for 20 million users.]]></description>
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<p>Do the work that&#8217;s most important. That&#8217;s the story of this week&#8217;s <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em></a> guest, Aytekin Tank. Aytekin is the Founder and CEO of Jotform and Bestselling Author of <em>Automate Your Busywork</em>. Listen to the episode on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wild-business-growth-podcast/id1422144338?mt=2" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6mSUsqYobBljhKIuK9sKJV" target="_blank">Spotify</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPJ7ovuCpHVg7SJchnF2BZg" target="_blank">YouTube</a>, and your other favorite <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">podcast platforms</a>.</p>



<ul><li><a href="#episode-summary">Episode Summary &amp; Player</a></li><li><a href="#full-transcript">Full Transcript</a></li><li><a href="#show-notes">Show Notes</a></li><li><a href="#podcast-summary"><em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em> Summary</a></li></ul>



<h2 id="episode-summary">Episode 278: Aytekin Tank – <em>Automate Your Busywork</em>, Founder of Jotform</h2>



<p>Aytekin Tank, the Founder and CEO of Jotform and Bestselling Author of <em>Automate Your Busywork</em>, joins the show to share his journey from using the school computer on weekends to creating online forms for 20 million users. Hear his Rules on Hiring, Gross Margin, and Productivity, how to scale your business to millions of users, open more offices, and focus on the important work, plus lessons on motivation from Michael Jordan. This episode covers everything from taking the bus to working ON the business. Here&#8217;s a small sample of what you will hear in this episode:</p>



<ul><li>What&#8217;s the most common misconception people have about Computer Science</li><li>How does it feel to have 20 million customers</li><li>Philoso-pee?</li><li>Where did Aytekin&#8217;s Rule on Hiring come from</li><li>What did Jotform look like in the early days</li><li>Congrats &amp; a voice crack</li><li>The Automation Flywheel</li><li>What&#8217;s a rule Aytekin has outside of work</li></ul>



<p>Connect with Aytekin at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.jotform.com/" target="_blank">Jotform.com</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://aytekintank.com/" target="_blank">AytekinTank.com</a>, and check out his <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://aytekintank.com/books/automate-your-busywork/" target="_blank">book</a>.</p>



<h2 id="full-transcript"></h2>



<p>Enjoy the shoooooow! Check out the show notes below for much more detail. You can also find the full transcript <a href="https://maxpodcasting.com/aytekin-tank-transcript/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">here</a>.</p>



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<h2 id="show-notes"><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2>



<ul><li><strong>Intro &amp; Computer Science</strong><ul><li>[0:28] Email me at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="mailto:m&#97;x&#64;&#104;ip&#112;&#111;di&#114;ec&#116;.&#99;&#111;&#109;" target="_blank">m&#97;&#120;&#64;m&#97;&#120;po&#100;c&#97;st&#105;&#110;g.com</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool</li><li>[0:38] Connect with Aytekin at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.jotform.com/" target="_blank">Jotform.com</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://aytekintank.com/" target="_blank">AytekinTank.com</a>, and check out his <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://aytekintank.com/books/automate-your-busywork/" target="_blank">book</a></li></ul><ul><li>[2:21] We&#8217;re even</li><li>[2:35] Cool</li><li>[2:56] What&#8217;s the most common misconception people have about <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.bridgeport.edu/academics/programs/computer-science-ms/" target="_blank">Computer Science</a> (CompSci)</li><li>[3:54] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://opensource.org/" target="_blank">Open-Source</a></li><li>[4:32] Kelley <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://kelley.iu.edu/faculty-research/departments/marketing/index.html" target="_blank">Marketing</a> &amp; <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://kelley.iu.edu/programs/undergrad/academics/majors-minors-certificates/entrepreneurship-corporate-innovation-curriculum.html" target="_blank">Entrepreneurship</a></li><li>[5:11] How did Aytekin become interested in computers</li><li>[6:51] What feeling did he have the first time he used a computer</li><li>[7:41] <a href="https://code.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Code</a></li></ul></li></ul>



<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-large is-resized"><img loading="lazy" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/SquadShot-Aytekin-Tank-1024x538.png" alt="Aytekin Tank Jotform Automate Your Busywork" class="wp-image-8509" width="688" height="361" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/SquadShot-Aytekin-Tank-1024x538.png 1024w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/SquadShot-Aytekin-Tank-400x210.png 400w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/SquadShot-Aytekin-Tank-768x403.png 768w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/SquadShot-Aytekin-Tank-500x263.png 500w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/SquadShot-Aytekin-Tank-400x210@2x.png 800w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/SquadShot-Aytekin-Tank.png 1200w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/SquadShot-Aytekin-Tank-500x263@2x.png 1000w" sizes="(max-width: 688px) 100vw, 688px" /><figcaption>Mr. Tank!</figcaption></figure></div>



<ul><li><strong>The Jotform Story</strong><ul><li>[8:28] How does it feel to have 20 million customers</li><li>[8:56] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.statista.com/companies/ranking/6/top-100-media-companies" target="_blank">Media Company</a></li><li>[11:55] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/b/bootstrapping.asp" target="_blank">Bootstrapped</a></li></ul><ul><li>[14:04] Philoso-pee?</li><li>[14:17] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.salary.com/" target="_blank">Salary</a></li><li>[14:44] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/122214/what-difference-between-revenue-and-income.asp" target="_blank">Revenue</a></li><li>[14:47] Where did Aytekin&#8217;s Rule on Hiring come from</li><li>[15:01] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.wikihow.com/Play-Poker" target="_blank">Poker</a></li><li>[15:25] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/g/grossmargin.asp" target="_blank">Gross Margin</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://corporatefinanceinstitute.com/resources/accounting/accrual-accounting-guide/" target="_blank">Accrual Accounting</a></li><li>[16:02] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://corporatefinanceinstitute.com/resources/management/hiring-freeze/" target="_blank">Hiring Freeze</a></li><li>[17:20] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.asid.org/" target="_blank">Interior Designers</a></li><li>[18:00] How has Aytekin&#8217;s approach as <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/ceo.asp" target="_blank">CEO</a> (Chief Executive Officer) changed since opening more offices</li><li>[18:21] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.indeed.com/q-remote-jobs.html" target="_blank">Remote Work</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.flexjobs.com/blog/post/benefits-of-remote-work/" target="_blank">Working From Home</a> (WFH)</li><li>[19:01] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.bondcollective.com/blog/open-office-plan" target="_blank">Open Office Floor Plan</a></li><li>[21:17] Yum</li><li>[21:44] What did <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.jotform.com/" target="_blank">Jotform</a> look like in the early days</li><li>[22:50] &#8220;<a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2001/07/21/good-software-takes-ten-years-get-used-to-it/" target="_blank">Good Software Takes Ten Years. Get Used To it.</a>&#8221; by Joel Spolsky</li><li>[24:31] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.jotform.com/answers/" target="_blank">Jotform Support</a></li><li>[25:08] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.jotform.com/myforms/" target="_blank">Jotform Form Builder</a></li><li>[25:37] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.hippodirect.com/best-lists-by-market-segment" target="_blank">Email</a></li><li>[25:57] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.jotform.com/products/approvals/" target="_blank">Jotform Approvals</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.jotform.com/products/pdf-editor/" target="_blank">Jotform PDF Editor</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.jotform.com/products/sign/" target="_blank">Jotform Sign</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.jotform.com/products/apps/" target="_blank">Jotform Apps</a></li><li>[26:58] Liz Giorgi – <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/liz-giorgi/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em> #276</a>: Virtual Product Photography, Co-Founder of <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://soona.co/" target="_blank">soona</a></li><li>[27:29] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://corporatefinanceinstitute.com/resources/accounting/revenue-streams/" target="_blank">Revenue Streams</a></li><li>[28:02] How do you scale to millions of users or millions of customers</li><li>[28:45] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://aytekintank.com/interviews/" target="_blank">50/50 Rule</a></li><li>[29:54] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.productplan.com/glossary/minimum-viable-product/" target="_blank">MVP</a> (Minimum Viable Product)</li><li>[33:53] Come to CEX (Content Entrepreneur Expo) May 5-7, 2024 in Cleveland, OH! Save $100 off the in-person ticket price by registering at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://cex.events/" target="_blank">CEX.Events</a> and using the coupon code: MAX100</li></ul><ul><li>[33:55] The <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em> is on YouTube! <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/@maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Subscribe @MaxBranstetter</a> to watch full video interviews with Wild entrepreneurs like Aytekin</li></ul><ul><li>[34:56] Sign up for the <em>Podcasting to the Max</em> newsletter at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/newsletter/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/Newsletter</a> and receive <em>How to Edit Your Podcast in Audacity</em>. It&#8217;s where podcasting meets entrepreneurship &#8211; and terrible puns</li></ul><ul><li>[34:58] Such an honor speaking at Podcast Movement &#8217;23 in Denver! Sign up to grab the slides from my session at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/PM23/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/PM23</a></li></ul></li><li><strong><em>Automate Your Busywork</em></strong><ul><li>[35:21] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://aytekintank.com/books/automate-your-busywork/" target="_blank">Automate Your Busywork</a></em> by Aytekin Tank</li><li>[35:30] What is Aytekin&#8217;s philosophy on productivity</li><li>[35:57] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/a/accounting.asp" target="_blank">Accounting</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/h/humanresources.asp" target="_blank">HR</a> (Human Resources)</li><li>[36:30] Google Forms</li><li>[36:39] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goliath" target="_blank">David &amp; Goliath</a></li><li>[37:52] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://blog.superhuman.com/inbox-zero-method/" target="_blank">Inbox Zero</a></li><li>[38:01] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.upwork.com/" target="_blank">Upwork</a></li><li>[39:15] Congrats &amp; a voice crack</li><li>[39:39] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.getclockwise.com/blog/time-audits" target="_blank">Time Audit</a></li><li>[41:52] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/568877-i-choose-a-lazy-person-to-do-a-hard-job" target="_blank">Bill Gates Lazy Quote</a></li><li>[43:15] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.jotform.com/blog/how-the-automation-flywheel-can-help-you-achieve-greater-peace-and-productivity-at-work/" target="_blank">Automation Flywheel</a></li><li>[44:04] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://calendly.com/" target="_blank">Calendly</a></li><li>[45:01] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.kpi.org/kpi-basics/" target="_blank">KPIs</a> (Key Performance Indicators)</li><li>[45:23] MAX</li></ul></li></ul>



<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-large is-resized"><img loading="lazy" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Aytekin-Tank-Automate-Your-Busywork-1024x576.jpg" alt="Aytekin Tank Automate Your Busywork" class="wp-image-8511" width="651" height="365" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Aytekin-Tank-Automate-Your-Busywork-1024x576.jpg 1024w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Aytekin-Tank-Automate-Your-Busywork-400x225.jpg 400w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Aytekin-Tank-Automate-Your-Busywork-768x432.jpg 768w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Aytekin-Tank-Automate-Your-Busywork-500x281.jpg 500w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Aytekin-Tank-Automate-Your-Busywork-400x225@2x.jpg 800w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Aytekin-Tank-Automate-Your-Busywork.jpg 1200w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Aytekin-Tank-Automate-Your-Busywork-500x281@2x.jpg 1000w" sizes="(max-width: 651px) 100vw, 651px" /><figcaption><em><a href="https://aytekintank.com/books/automate-your-busywork/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Automate Your Busywork</a></em> by Aytekin Tank</figcaption></figure></div>



<ul><li><strong>Rapid-Fire Q&amp;A</strong><ul><li>[46:19] Connecti-kittens</li><li>[46:28] Shoutout, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://x.com/AlexMyers3/status/534372430547275776?s=20" target="_blank">StamVegas</a>!</li><li>[46:39] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.bridgeport.edu/" target="_blank">University of Bridgeport</a></li><li>[46:45] What&#8217;s the best and worst part of living in Connecticut</li><li>[47:55] Shoutout, Spense!</li><li>[48:21] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://new.mta.info/agency/metro-north-railroad" target="_blank">Metro-North Railroad</a> (MNR)</li><li>[48:45] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.britannica.com/place/Istanbul" target="_blank">Istanbul</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.britannica.com/place/Roman-Empire" target="_blank">Roman Empire</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.britannica.com/place/Ottoman-Empire" target="_blank">Ottoman Empire</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.britannica.com/place/Bosporus" target="_blank">Bosporus</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.britannica.com/place/Aegean-Sea" target="_blank">Aegean Sea</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.nationalgeographic.com/travel/world-heritage/article/cappadocia" target="_blank">Cappadocia</a></li><li>[49:51] What&#8217;s a Weird Talent Aytekin has</li><li>[51:18] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.hoophall.com/hall-of-famers/michael-jordan" target="_blank">Michael Jordan</a>, <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80203144" target="_blank">The Last Dance</a></em></li><li>[52:40] What&#8217;s a rule Aytekin has outside of work</li><li>[53:58] Connect with Aytekin at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.jotform.com/" target="_blank">Jotform.com</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://aytekintank.com/" target="_blank">AytekinTank.com</a>, and check out his <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://aytekintank.com/books/automate-your-busywork/" target="_blank">book</a></li></ul><ul><li>[54:53] What are Aytekin&#8217;s Final Thoughts</li></ul><ul><li>[55:40] Follow the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em></a> and tell a friend about the podcast. And show love (or roast me) by leaving 5 stars on Apple Podcasts and/or Spotify</li></ul><ul><li>[55:45] Come to CEX (Content Entrepreneur Expo) May 5-7, 2024 in Cleveland, OH! Save $100 off the in-person ticket price by registering at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://cex.events/" target="_blank">CEX.Events</a> and using the coupon code: MAX100</li></ul><ul><li>[55:48] Check out the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast </em>on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.goodpods.com/" target="_blank">Goodpods</a>, where you can see what your favorite people are listening to</li><li>[55:50] The <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em> is on YouTube! <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/@maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Subscribe @MaxBranstetter</a> to watch full video interviews with Wild entrepreneurs like Aytekin</li><li>[55:59] Connect with me on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/max-branstetter-74150a57/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/maxbranstetter/" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Twitter</a> (aka <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/maxbranstetter" target="_blank">X</a>), and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.threads.net/@maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Threads</a> @MaxBranstetter and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.tiktok.com/@wildbusinessgrowth" target="_blank">TikTok</a> @WildBusinessGrowth</li><li>[56:05] Save time with your high-quality podcast. Email me at <a href="mailto:m&#97;&#120;&#64;&#109;axp&#111;&#100;&#99;&#97;s&#116;i&#110;g&#46;&#99;&#111;&#109;">max&#64;maxp&#111;dc&#97;stin&#103;&#46;c&#111;m</a> to bring your podcast to life and use it as a business-building tool</li><li>[56:19] Sign up for the <em>Podcasting to the Max</em> newsletter at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/newsletter/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/Newsletter</a> and receive <em>How to Edit Your Podcast in Audacity</em>. It&#8217;s where podcasting meets entrepreneurship &#8211; and terrible puns</li><li>Theme music: Freestyle Percussion Magik &#8211; &#8220;Jungle Tribe&#8221; &#8211; provided by Jamendo</li></ul></li></ul>



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<h2 id="podcast-summary"><strong>What is the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em>?</strong></h2>



<p>Wild ideas. Wild growth. Every Wednesday morning a new entrepreneur joins the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em> to share the wildly creative and unusual ways they grew their business &#8211; and teaches you how to do it, too. Hear the minds behind WordPress, Stacy&#8217;s Pita Chips, Drybar, NFL RedZone, Big Mouth Billy Bass, the voice of Bart Simpson, and more Wild stories. Hosted by <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/about/" target="_blank">Max Branstetter</a> (that&#8217;s me), Founder and Podcast Producer at MaxPodcasting.</p>



<h2><strong>How do you start a podcast?</strong></h2>



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		<title>Richard Saul Wurman &#8211; Wild Business Growth Podcast #254: Creator of TED</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2023 01:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Richard Saul Wurman, the Creator of TED and other top conferences, Author of 90 books, Architect, and Artist, joins the Wild Business Growth Podcast to share his journey from taking a triple course load at Penn to exploring challenging questions at age 88.]]></description>
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<p>Ask great questions. That&#8217;s the story of this week&#8217;s <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em></a> guest, Richard Saul Wurman. Richard is the Creator of TED. Listen to the episode on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wild-business-growth-podcast/id1422144338?mt=2" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6mSUsqYobBljhKIuK9sKJV" target="_blank">Spotify</a>, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPJ7ovuCpHVg7SJchnF2BZg" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">YouTube</a>, and your other favorite <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">podcast platforms</a>.</p>



<ul><li><a href="#episode-summary">Episode Summary &amp; Player</a></li><li><a href="#full-transcript">Full Transcript</a></li><li><a href="#show-notes">Show Notes</a></li><li><a href="#podcast-summary"><em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em> Summary</a></li></ul>



<h2 id="episode-summary">Episode 254: Richard Saul Wurman – Creator of TED</h2>



<p>Richard Saul Wurman, the Creator of TED and other top conferences, Author of 90 books, Architect, and Artist, joins the show to share his journey from taking a triple course load at Penn to exploring challenging questions at age 88. Hear why he wishes he was a brain in a jar, his thoughts on being mentally sharp at his age, how to get better at listening and acronyms, how to decide what project to pursue next, and the most interesting documentary he’s ever watched. This episode covers everything from Yo-Yo Ma to telling the truth. Here&#8217;s a small sample of what you will hear in this episode:</p>



<ul><li>What would Richard&#8217;s ideal birthday party look like</li><li>Why does he love acronyms</li><li>What is obsidian</li><li>Was Richard always driven by curiosity and fascination</li><li>What&#8217;s the difference between an idea you pursue and an interesting thought</li><li>Is Richard more different from how he was in his 40s or 20s</li><li>How did I expect this conversation would go</li><li>Synesthesia</li></ul>



<p>Connect with Richard at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.wurman.com/" target="_blank">Wurman.com</a>.</p>



<h2 id="full-transcript"></h2>



<p>Enjoy the shoooooow! Check out the show notes below for much more detail. You can also find the full transcript <a href="https://maxpodcasting.com/richard-saul-wurman-transcript/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">here</a>.</p>



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<h2 id="show-notes"><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2>



<ul><li><strong>Conversation with Richard Saul Wurman</strong><ul><li>[0:31] Email me at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="mailto:max&#64;&#104;&#105;&#112;po&#100;&#105;r&#101;ct.c&#111;&#109;" target="_blank">&#109;&#97;x&#64;&#109;&#97;&#120;&#112;&#111;&#100;&#99;ast&#105;&#110;&#103;&#46;co&#109;</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool</li><li>[0:40] Connect with Richard at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.wurman.com/" target="_blank">Wurman.com</a></li></ul><ul><li>[2:07] What a beginning</li><li>[5:18] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socrates" target="_blank">Socrates</a></li><li>[5:43] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/1921/einstein/biographical/" target="_blank">Albert Einstein</a></li><li>[6:11] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://byjus.com/biology/protoplasm/" target="_blank">Protoplasm</a></li><li>[6:38] Why did Richard&#8217;s wife <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.glorianagy.com/" target="_blank">Gloria Nagy</a> say he &#8220;wishes he was a brain in a jar&#8221;</li><li>[7:41] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.nia.nih.gov/health/what-is-dementia#:~:text=Dementia%20is%20the%20loss%20of,and%20their%20personalities%20may%20change." target="_blank">Dementia</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.alz.org/" target="_blank">Alzheimer&#8217;s</a></li><li>[8:26] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">Wild Business Growth Podcast</a></em></li><li>[9:03] Shoutout, March Birthdays</li><li>[9:16] What would Richard&#8217;s ideal birthday party look like</li><li>[9:31] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.kfc.com/" target="_blank">Kentucky Fried Chicken</a> (KFC)</li><li>[10:49] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.yo-yoma.com/" target="_blank">Yo-Yo Ma</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Gehry" target="_blank">Frank Gehry</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.safdiearchitects.com/" target="_blank">Moshe Safdie</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0436539/" target="_blank">Jon Kamen</a></li><li>[11:39] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.carnegiehall.org/Events/Yo-Yo-Ma" target="_blank">Carnegie Hall</a></li><li>[11:53] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.laphil.com/about/our-venues/about-the-walt-disney-concert-hall" target="_blank">Disney Hall</a></li><li>[12:04] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://conasur.com/bilbao-effect-architecture-sparking-tourism/#:~:text=The%20Bilbao%20Effect%20is%20when,investment%20in%20attractions%20and%20museums." target="_blank">The Bilbao Effect</a></li><li>[12:17] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.google.com/" target="_blank">Google</a></li><li>[12:42] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.marinabaysands.com/home.html" target="_blank">Marina Bay Sands</a></li><li>[12:48] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.radicalmedia.com/" target="_blank">RadicalMedia</a>, <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0317910/" target="_blank">The Fog of War</a></em>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.urbanobservatory.org/" target="_blank">Urban Observatory</a></li><li>[13:30] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.cottagesgardens.com/look-inside-the-15m-newport-estate-of-the-firestone-family/" target="_blank">Firestone Estate</a></li><li>[13:43] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.almanac.com/plant/hydrangeas" target="_blank">Hydrangea</a></li><li>[13:56] Why thank you</li><li>[19:40] What does it mean to Richard to be 88-years-old and mentally sharp</li><li>[21:01] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.iea.org/energy-system/low-emission-fuels/hydrogen#:~:text=Hydrogen%20is%20a%20versatile%20energy,for%20significant%20annual%20CO2%20emissions." target="_blank">Hydrogen</a></li><li>[21:29] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.fi.edu/en/sparkofscience/electrolysis-flaming-water" target="_blank">Franklin Institute</a></li><li>[21:43] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.rsc.org/periodic-table/element/2/helium" target="_blank">Helium</a></li><li>[24:01] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.apple.com/iphone/" target="_blank">iPhones</a></li><li>[24:39] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fax" target="_blank">Fax Machine</a></li><li>[25:19] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.ted.com/" target="_blank">TED</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.ted.com/tedx/events/46433" target="_blank">TED Kobe</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.japan-guide.com/e/e2159.html" target="_blank">Kobe</a>, Japan</li><li>[29:49] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.gatesnotes.com/Home" target="_blank">Bill Gates</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Sculley" target="_blank">John Sculley</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.apple.com/" target="_blank">Apple</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.apple.com/stevejobs/" target="_blank">Steve Jobs</a></li></ul></li></ul>



<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-large is-resized"><img loading="lazy" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/Richard-Saul-Wurman-TED-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-254-Creator-of-TED-1024x293.jpg" alt="Richard Saul Wurman - Wild Business Growth Podcast #254: Creator of TED" class="wp-image-7719" width="766" height="218" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/Richard-Saul-Wurman-TED-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-254-Creator-of-TED-1024x293.jpg 1024w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/Richard-Saul-Wurman-TED-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-254-Creator-of-TED-400x115.jpg 400w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/Richard-Saul-Wurman-TED-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-254-Creator-of-TED-768x220.jpg 768w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/Richard-Saul-Wurman-TED-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-254-Creator-of-TED-500x143.jpg 500w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/Richard-Saul-Wurman-TED-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-254-Creator-of-TED-400x115@2x.jpg 800w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/Richard-Saul-Wurman-TED-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-254-Creator-of-TED-1920x550.jpg 1920w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/Richard-Saul-Wurman-TED-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-254-Creator-of-TED-768x220@2x.jpg 1536w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/Richard-Saul-Wurman-TED-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-254-Creator-of-TED-1024x293@2x.jpg 2048w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/Richard-Saul-Wurman-TED-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-254-Creator-of-TED-500x143@2x.jpg 1000w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/Richard-Saul-Wurman-TED-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-254-Creator-of-TED-800x229@2x.jpg 1600w" sizes="(max-width: 766px) 100vw, 766px" /><figcaption>When you start off with &#8220;How you doing today?&#8221;</figcaption></figure></div>



<ul><li><strong>Richard Saul Wurman Cont&#8217;d</strong><ul><li>[31:08] Why does Richard love <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acronym" target="_blank">acronyms</a></li><li>[31:22] Thank you!</li><li>[31:57] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.upenn.edu/" target="_blank">University of Pennsylvania</a> (Penn), <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.design.upenn.edu/architecture" target="_blank">Stuart Weitzman School of Design</a></li><li>[33:44] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.britannica.com/topic/hippie#:~:text=Hippies%20advocated%20nonviolence%20and%20love,saw%20in%20middle%2Dclass%20society." target="_blank">Hippies</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.britannica.com/art/Beat-movement#:~:text=Its%20adherents%2C%20self%2Dstyled%20as,manners%2C%20and%20%E2%80%9Chip%E2%80%9D%20vocabulary" target="_blank">Beatniks</a></li><li>[34:44] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://archives.upenn.edu/collections/finding-aid/upb8_4perkins/" target="_blank">G. Holmes Perkins</a></li><li>[35:07] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.britannica.com/biography/Walter-Gropius" target="_blank">Walter Gropius</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bauhaus" target="_blank">Bauhaus</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.harvard.edu/" target="_blank">Harvard University</a></li><li>[35:52] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_Nine" target="_blank">Planet Nine</a></li><li>[38:18] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/symptoms/24995-synesthesia#:~:text=Synesthesia%20is%20when%20your%20brain,colors%20to%20numbers%20and%20letters." target="_blank">Synesthesia</a></li><li>[39:33] How do you decide what project to focus on next</li><li>[39:45] We did it</li><li>[40:14] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://kimbellart.org/content/louis-i-kahn-biography" target="_blank">Louis Kahn</a></li><li>[41:15] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.usc.edu/" target="_blank">USC</a> (University of Southern California), <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.ucla.edu/" target="_blank">UCLA</a> (University of California, Los Angeles)</li><li>[41:27] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_and_Ray_Eames" target="_blank">Charlie Eames</a></li><li>[42:03] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.salary.com/" target="_blank">Salary</a></li><li>[42:28] Too true</li><li>[43:02] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.britannica.com/topic/Atlantic-Richfield-Company" target="_blank">Atlantic Richfield</a> (ARCO)</li><li>[43:09] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.cbs.com/" target="_blank">CBS</a> (Columbia Broadcasting System)</li><li>[43:35] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.jnj.com/" target="_blank">Johnson &amp; Johnson</a> (J&amp;J), <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.uhc.com/" target="_blank">UnitedHealthcare</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.aarp.org/" target="_blank">AARP</a> (American Association of Retired Persons)</li><li>[43:57] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.kickstarter.com/" target="_blank">Kickstarter</a></li><li>[44:12] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facsimile" target="_blank">Facsimile</a></li><li>[44:47] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.amazon.com/Mortality-Richard-Saul-Wurman/dp/0578503050" target="_blank">Mortality</a></em> by Richard Saul Wurman</li><li>[45:02] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="http://www.montypython.com/" target="_blank">Monty Python</a></li><li>[46:23] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="http://www.nature.com/scitable/topicpage/discovery-of-dna-structure-and-function-watson-397" target="_blank">Watson &amp; Crick</a></li><li>[47:05] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.britannica.com/science/E-mc2-equation" target="_blank">E = mc^2</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinkertoy" target="_blank">Tinkertoy</a></li><li>[47:21] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.amazon.com/UnderstandingUnderstanding-Richard-Saul-Wurman/dp/1939621690" target="_blank">UnderstandingUnderstanding</a></em> by Richard Saul Wurman</li><li>[49:00] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://cbd.cmu.edu/about-us/what-is-computational-biology.html#:~:text=Computational%20biology%20is%20the%20science,or%20genes)%20when%20expressed%20produce" target="_blank">Computational Biology</a></li><li>[50:11] What is <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.britannica.com/science/obsidian" target="_blank">obsidian</a></li></ul><ul><li>[53:07] Such an honor speaking at Podcast Movement &#8217;23 in Denver! Sign up to grab the slides from my session at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/PM23/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/PM23</a></li></ul><ul><li>[53:11] Sign up for the <em>Podcasting to the Max</em> newsletter at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/newsletter/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/Newsletter</a> and receive <em>How to Edit Your Podcast in Audacity</em></li></ul></li></ul>



<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-large is-resized"><img loading="lazy" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/71T1uhu8OGL-1024x866.jpg" alt="Richard Saul Wurman - Wild Business Growth Podcast #254: Creator of TED" class="wp-image-7722" width="556" height="470" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/71T1uhu8OGL-1024x866.jpg 1024w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/71T1uhu8OGL-400x338.jpg 400w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/71T1uhu8OGL-768x650.jpg 768w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/71T1uhu8OGL-500x423.jpg 500w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/71T1uhu8OGL-400x338@2x.jpg 800w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/71T1uhu8OGL.jpg 1033w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/71T1uhu8OGL-500x423@2x.jpg 1000w" sizes="(max-width: 556px) 100vw, 556px" /></figure></div>



<ul><li><strong><strong>Richard Saul Wurman Cont&#8217;d</strong></strong><ul><li>[53:12] What&#8217;s the difference between an idea you pursue and an interesting thought</li><li>[54:39] Flying Anythings</li><li>[55:38] Was Richard always driven by curiosity and fascination</li><li>[57:02] Is Richard more different from how he was in his 40s or 20s</li></ul><ul><li>[57:27] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://smartasset.com/taxes/paycheck-calculator" target="_blank">Paycheck</a></li><li>[57:59] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.amazon.com/Information-Anxiety-Richard-Saul-Wurman/dp/0385243944" target="_blank">Information Anxiety</a></em> by Richard Saul Wurman, <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.amazon.com/Information-Anxiety-2-Hayden-Que/dp/0789724103" target="_blank">Information Anxiety 2</a></em> by Richard Saul Wurman</li><li>[58:11] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.tedmed.com/" target="_blank">TEDMED</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.nytimes.com/1973/04/03/archives/1000-attend-first-us-design-assembly.html" target="_blank">1st Federal Design Assembly</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://conferenceonarchitecture.com/" target="_blank">AIA Conference</a></li><li>[58:21] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://blog.hubspot.com/marketing/public-relations-definition#:~:text=What%20is%20PR%3F,or%20respond%20to%20public%20discourse." target="_blank">PR</a> (Public Relations)</li><li>[58:36] Guilty</li><li>[59:22] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.ameliaisland.com/" target="_blank">Amelia Island</a></li><li>[59:55] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://coralgablesmuseum.org/portfolio-item/watercolorsbronzes/" target="_blank">Coral Gables Museum</a></li><li>[1:00:20] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.thefreedictionary.com/Plastocene" target="_blank">Plastocene</a></li><li>[1:01:53] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/coldcalling.asp" target="_blank">Cold Calling</a></li><li>[1:02:26] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://zoom.us/" target="_blank">Zoom</a></li><li>[1:03:26] What&#8217;s the most interesting documentary Richard&#8217;s ever watched</li><li>[1:03:51] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Attenborough" target="_blank">David Attenborough</a></li><li>[1:04:39] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.britannica.com/topic/Hindenburg#:~:text=Hindenburg%2C%20German%20dirigible%2C%20the%20largest,and%20the%20giraffe%2Dsized%20pterosaur" target="_blank">Hindenburg</a></li><li>[1:05:03] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_civilization" target="_blank">Mayans</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.guggenheim.org/publication/the-aztec-empire#:~:text=The%20Aztecs%20were%20the%20Native,%2C%20modern%2Dday%20Mexico%20City." target="_blank">Aztecs</a></li><li>[1:07:13] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.amazon.com/Information-Anxiety-2-Hayden-Que/dp/0789724103" target="_blank">Information Anxiety 2</a></em> by Richard Saul Wurman, <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.amazon.com/UnderstandingUnderstanding-Richard-Saul-Wurman/dp/1939621690" target="_blank">UnderstandingUnderstanding</a></em> by Richard Saul Wurman, <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.amazon.com/33-Understanding-Change/dp/098189898X" target="_blank">33</a></em> by Richard Saul Wurman</li><li>[1:09:55] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.wurman.com/media" target="_blank">The Architect of Ideas</a></em>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://nantucketproject.com/" target="_blank">The Nantucket Project</a> (TNP)</li><li>[1:10:35] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Scott_(businessman)" target="_blank">Tommy Scott</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nantucket_Nectars#:~:text=Nantucket%20Nectars%20is%20an%20American,on%20a%20visit%20to%20Spain." target="_blank">Tom &amp; Tom</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nantucket_Nectars" target="_blank">Nantucket Nectars</a></li><li>[1:10:57] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.snapple.com/" target="_blank">Snapple</a></li><li>[1:11:24] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.3blmedia.com/news/jetblue-foundation-and-nantucket-project-support-rwanda-girls-initiative" target="_blank">JetBlue</a></li><li>[1:11:32] Watch <em>The Architect of Ideas</em> at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.wurman.com/media" target="_blank">Wurman.com/Media</a></li><li>[1:12:32] What are Richard&#8217;s Final Thoughts</li><li>[1:13:55] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/w/wealthmanagement.asp#:~:text=Key%20Takeaways,typically%20for%20one%20set%20fee." target="_blank">Wealth Management</a></li><li>[1:18:04] This is not true</li><li>[1:19:01] How did I expect this conversation would go</li><li>[1:20:05] Very unique indeed</li><li>[1:20:34] Couldn&#8217;t resist</li></ul><ul><li>[1:20:41] Connect with Richard at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.wurman.com/" target="_blank">Wurman.com</a></li><li>[1:21:33] Follow the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em></a> and tell a friend about the podcast. And show love (or roast me) by leaving 5 stars on Apple Podcasts and/or Spotify</li></ul><ul><li>[1:21:48] Check out the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast </em>on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.goodpods.com/" target="_blank">Goodpods</a>, where you can see what your favorite people are listening to</li><li>[1:21:50] Connect with me on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/maxbranstetter/" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Twitter</a> (aka <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/maxbranstetter" target="_blank">X</a>), and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/max-branstetter-74150a57/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a> @MaxBranstetter</li><li>[1:21:52] Save time with your high-quality podcast. Email me at <a href="mailto:m&#97;x&#64;m&#97;&#120;&#112;&#111;&#100;&#99;as&#116;in&#103;&#46;&#99;&#111;m">&#109;a&#120;&#64;&#109;ax&#112;o&#100;ca&#115;ting.&#99;&#111;m</a> to bring your podcast to life and use it as a business-building tool</li><li>[1:21:57] Sign up for the <em>Podcasting to the Max</em> newsletter at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/newsletter/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/Newsletter</a> and receive <em>How to Edit Your Podcast in Audacity</em></li><li>Theme music: Freestyle Percussion Magik &#8211; &#8220;Jungle Tribe&#8221; &#8211; provided by Jamendo</li></ul></li></ul>



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<h2 id="podcast-summary"><strong>What is the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em>?</strong></h2>



<p>Wild ideas. Wild growth. Every Wednesday morning a new entrepreneur joins the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em> to share the wildly creative and unusual ways they grew their business &#8211; and teaches you how to do it, too. Hear the minds behind WordPress, Stacy&#8217;s Pita Chips, Drybar, NFL RedZone, Big Mouth Billy Bass, the voice of Bart Simpson, and more Wild stories. Hosted by <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/about/" target="_blank">Max Branstetter</a> (that&#8217;s me), Founder and Podcast Producer at MaxPodcasting.</p>



<h2><strong>How do you start a podcast?</strong></h2>



<p>Interested in starting a professional-sounding podcast for your brand, but don&#8217;t want to deal with the time commitment of all those behind-the-scenes details? I’ve got you covered. Email me at <a href="mailto:&#109;&#97;&#120;&#64;maxp&#111;d&#99;&#97;&#115;ti&#110;&#103;.co&#109;">m&#97;&#120;&#64;&#109;&#97;&#120;p&#111;dcast&#105;&#110;&#103;.&#99;&#111;m</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool.</p>



<p>Thanks for listening to Richard Saul Wurman on the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em>.<em> </em>To hear more Wild stories like this one every Wednesday morning, follow the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em></a> and tell a friend about it. And send Richard a thought-provoking email. Until next time, Let your business Run Wild&#8230;and <strong><em>Bring on the Bongos!!</em></strong></p>
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		<title>John Warrillow &#8211; Wild Business Growth Podcast #151: Built to Sell, The Art of Selling Your Business</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Max Branstetter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2021 08:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[John Warrillow, the Bestselling Author of Built to Sell, The Automatic Customer, and The Art of Selling Your Business, joins the Wild Business Growth Podcast to share his journey from being involved in every aspect of business to exiting four companies.]]></description>
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<p class="has-drop-cap">Would you like to sell your business one day? It&#8217;s easier said than done. That&#8217;s where this week&#8217;s <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">Wild Business Growth Podcast</a></em> guest comes in: John Warrillow. John is the Bestselling Author of <em>Built to Sell</em>, <em>The Automatic Customer</em>, and <em>The Art of Selling Your Business</em>. Listen to the episode on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wild-business-growth-podcast/id1422144338?mt=2" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6mSUsqYobBljhKIuK9sKJV" target="_blank">Spotify</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://podcasts.google.com/?feed=aHR0cDovL3dpbGRidXNpbmVzc2dyb3d0aHBvZGNhc3QubGlic3luLmNvbS9yc3M%3D" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a>, and your other favorite <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">podcast platforms</a>.</p>



<ul><li><a href="#episode-summary">Episode Summary &amp; Player</a></li><li><a href="#show-notes">Show Notes</a></li><li><a href="#podcast-summary"><em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em> Summary</a></li></ul>



<h2 id="episode-summary"><strong>Episode 151: John Warrillow &#8211; Built to Sell, The Art of Selling Your Business</strong></h2>



<p>John Warrillow, the Bestselling Author of Built to Sell, The Automatic Customer, and The Art of Selling Your Business, joins the show to share his journey from being involved in every aspect of business to exiting four companies. Hear how to work on your business vs. in your business, develop recurring revenue, the difference between those who sell their business vs. those who don’t, how to add a personal touch on social media, and John’s favorite extreme sport. This episode covers everything from <em>60 Minutes</em> to earn-outs. Here&#8217;s a small sample of what you will hear in this episode:</p>



<ul><li>What would John be doing if he wasn&#8217;t in the business world at all</li><li>How do you work on the business not in the business</li><li>How do you think of your business like a child</li><li>How do you get yourself to start thinking in terms of recurring revenue</li><li>What is the rocket fuel that propels those entrepreneurs who sell their business for more than expected</li><li>How do you slide into DMs as a business owner</li><li>What is a quirk John has</li><li>What is something about becoming a bestselling author that&#8217;s surprised him</li></ul>



<p>Connect with John at <a href="https://learn.builttosell.com/wild/?podcast=Wild%20Business%20Growth" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">BuiltToSell.com/Wild</a>.</p>



<p>Enjoy the shoooooow! Check out the show notes below for much more detail.</p>



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<h2 id="show-notes"><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2>



<ul><li><strong>Intro</strong> <strong>&amp; Media</strong><ul><li>[0:21] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80168221" target="_blank">Oh, Hello</a></em></li><li>[0:33] Email me at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="mailto:m&#97;x&#64;hi&#112;po&#100;&#105;&#114;ec&#116;.co&#109;" target="_blank">ma&#120;&#64;&#109;ax&#112;&#111;d&#99;a&#115;&#116;&#105;&#110;&#103;&#46;&#99;&#111;m</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool</li></ul><ul><li>[0:44] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.bacardi.com/us/en/the-legend-of-bacardi-151-rum/" target="_blank">Bacardi 151</a></li><li>[0:48] Connect with John at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://learn.builttosell.com/wild/?podcast=Wild%20Business%20Growth" target="_blank">BuiltToSell.com/Wild</a></li><li>[1:49] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://valuebuilder.com/" target="_blank">The Value Builder System</a></li><li>[2:30] What would John be doing if he wasn&#8217;t in the business world at all</li><li>[2:40] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://marketbusinessnews.com/financial-glossary/media-definition-meaning/" target="_blank">Media</a>, <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.cbsnews.com/60-minutes/" target="_blank">60 Minutes</a></em>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Wallace" target="_blank">Mike Wallace</a></li><li>[3:10] <em>65 Minutes</em> <em>with John Warrillow</em></li><li>[3:36] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://builttosell.com/radio/" target="_blank">Today&#8217;s Entrepreneur</a></em></li><li>[3:45] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://builttosell.com/radio/" target="_blank">Built to Sell Radio</a></em></li><li>[3:57] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/e/entrepreneur.asp" target="_blank">Entrepreneurs</a></li></ul></li><li><strong><em>Built to Sell</em>, <em>The Automatic Customer</em>, and <em>The Art of Selling Your Business</em></strong><ul><li>[4:47] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.amazon.com/Built-Sell-Creating-Business-Without/dp/1591845823" target="_blank">Built to Sell: Creating a Business That Can Thrive Without You</a></em> by John Warrillow</li><li>[5:02] Where did John&#8217;s interest in removing himself from the day-to-day come from</li><li>[5:16] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://builttosell.com/" target="_blank">Quantitative Market Research Business</a></li><li>[5:21] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.bankofamerica.com/" target="_blank">Bank of America</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.wellsfargo.com/" target="_blank">Wells Fargo</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.jpmorganchase.com/" target="_blank">JPMorgan Chase</a></li></ul><ul><li>[5:31] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/122214/what-difference-between-revenue-and-income.asp" target="_blank">Revenue</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.thebalance.com/profit-margin-types-calculation-3305879#:~:text=The%20profit%20margin%20is%20a,always%20expressed%20as%20a%20percentage." target="_blank">Profit Margin</a></li><li>[5:38] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.beringercapital.com/team-1" target="_blank">Perry Miele</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/m/mergersandacquisitions.asp#:~:text=Mergers%20and%20acquisitions%20(M%26A)%20is,of%20assets%2C%20and%20management%20acquisitions." target="_blank">M&amp;A</a> (Mergers &amp; Acquisitions)</li><li>[6:43] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.myaccountingcourse.com/accounting-dictionary/profitability" target="_blank">Profitability</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.lawinsider.com/dictionary/client-list#:~:text=Client%20List%20means%20the%20list,been%20or%20can%20be%20opened.&amp;text=Client%20List%20means%20the%20name,Payroll%20Services%20under%20this%20Agreement." target="_blank">Client List</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/recurringrevenue.asp#:~:text=Recurring%20revenue%20is%20the%20portion,relatively%20high%20degree%20of%20certainty." target="_blank">Recurring Revenue</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.intercom.com/blog/sales-team/" target="_blank">Sales Team</a></li><li>[6:58] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.nyse.com/" target="_blank">New York Stock Exchange</a> (NYSE)</li><li>[7:17] How do you work on the business not in the business</li><li>[7:38] Jodie Cook on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://builttosell.com/radio/episode-292/" target="_blank">Episode 292</a> of <em>Built to Sell Radio</em></li><li>[7:45] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/e/earnout.asp" target="_blank">Earn-Out</a></li><li>[8:52] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://zapier.com/blog/how-to-write-an-sop/" target="_blank">SOP</a> (Standard Operating Procedure)</li><li>[9:01] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.amazon.com/Myth-Revisited-Small-Businesses-About/dp/0887307280" target="_blank">The E-Myth Revisited: Why Most Small Businesses Don&#8217;t Work and What to Do About It</a></em> by Michael E. Gerber</li><li>[9:53] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.inc.com/inc5000" target="_blank">Inc. 5000</a></em></li><li>[10:19] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.harvard.edu/" target="_blank">Harvard University</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://auburn.edu/" target="_blank">Auburn University</a></li><li>[10:36] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.tesla.com/" target="_blank">Tesla</a></li><li>[11:33] How do you think of your business like a child</li><li>[11:41] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.thebalancecareers.com/what-is-an-employee-1918111" target="_blank">Employees</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.nexusnegotiations.com/content/paid/negotiators-toolbox/yesable-propositions/" target="_blank">The Yesable Solution</a></li><li>[12:49] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://corporatefinanceinstitute.com/resources/knowledge/other/products-and-services/#:~:text=A%20product%20is%20a%20tangible,of%20one%20or%20more%20individuals.&amp;text=In%20fact%2C%20a%20majority%20of,For%20example%2C%20when%20a%20consumer" target="_blank">Product</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://rebatekey.com/" target="_blank">Rebate</a></li><li>[14:04] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.upwork.com/" target="_blank">Freelancers</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.upwork.com/hire/virtual-assistants/" target="_blank">Virtual Assistants</a> (VAs)</li><li>[14:16] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.amazon.com/Automatic-Customer-Creating-Subscription-Business/dp/159184746X" target="_blank">The Automatic Customer: Creating a Subscription Business in Any Industry</a></em> by John Warrillow</li><li>[14:26] Tyler Gillespie on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/tyler-gillespie/" target="_blank">Episode 148</a> of the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em></li><li>[14:41] Where did John&#8217;s interest in starting a subscription business come from</li><li>[15:05] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/difference-between-publicly-and-privately-held-companies/#:~:text=A%20public%20company%20is%20a,for%20expansion%20and%20other%20projects." target="_blank">Public Company</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/a/acquisition.asp" target="_blank">Acquisitions</a></li><li>[15:16] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/12/what-is-an-annuity.asp#:~:text=The%20goal%20of%20an%20annuity,specific%20needs%20of%20the%20buyer." target="_blank">Annuity Stream</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.rocketlawyer.com/business-and-contracts/service-contracts#:~:text=Service%20Contracts%20are%20agreements%20between,a%20contractor%20and%20a%20homeowner.&amp;text=Most%20often%2C%20Service%20Contracts%20include,as%20deadlines%20and%20payment%20agreements." target="_blank">Service Contract</a></li><li>[15:31] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.thesoftwarereport.com/the-top-100-software-companies-of-2020/" target="_blank">Software Company</a></li><li>[15:37] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.hbloom.com/" target="_blank">H.Bloom</a></li><li>[15:48] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.retaildive.com/" target="_blank">Retail</a></li><li>[15:55] Ba-doom chh!</li><li>[16:10] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.heirloomroses.com/" target="_blank">Roses</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.gardeningknowhow.com/ornamental/flowers/gerbera-daisy/growing-gerbera-daisies.htm" target="_blank">Gerbera Daisies</a></li><li>[16:38] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://admin.hbloom.com/Home/AboutUs" target="_blank">Sonu Panda &amp; Bryan Burkhart</a></li><li>[17:38] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/i/inventory.asp" target="_blank">Inventory</a></li><li>[17:48] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://learn.marsdd.com/article/revenue-models-product-pricing-and-commercializing-new-technology/#:~:text=Transactional%20revenue%20models%20are%20based,examples%20of%20transactional%2Drevenue%20products." target="_blank">Transaction Business Model vs. Recurring Business Model</a></li><li>[18:02] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.smartkarrot.com/resources/blog/consumer-vs-customer/" target="_blank">Customers</a>, Buying Trigger</li><li>[18:49] How do you get yourself to start thinking in terms of recurring revenue</li><li>[19:45] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://birthingofgiants.com/" target="_blank">Birthing of Giants</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://exec.mit.edu/s/" target="_blank">MIT Sloan Executive Education Center</a></li><li>[20:02] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://birthingofgiants.com/" target="_blank">Entrepreneurial Masters Program</a></li><li>[20:13] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.jackstackbbq.com/" target="_blank">Jack Stack</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.tablegroup.com/pat/" target="_blank">Pat Lencioni</a></li><li>[20:30] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://corporatefinanceinstitute.com/resources/knowledge/other/products-and-services/#:~:text=A%20product%20is%20a%20tangible,of%20one%20or%20more%20individuals.&amp;text=In%20fact%2C%20a%20majority%20of,For%20example%2C%20when%20a%20consumer" target="_blank">Service</a></li><li>[21:12] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.nba.com/" target="_blank">NBA</a> (National Basketball Association)</li><li>[21:14] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.amazon.com/Art-Selling-Your-Business-Strategies/dp/1733478159" target="_blank">The Art of Selling Your Business: Winning Strategies &amp; Secret Hacks for Exiting on Top</a> </em>by John Warrillow</li><li>[22:12] What makes the difference between entrepreneurs that sell their business one day vs. those who don&#8217;t</li><li>[22:45] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sully_Sullenberger" target="_blank">Sully</a> aka Chesley Sullenberger</li><li>[23:13] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.cntraveler.com/story/the-miracle-on-the-hudson-flight-things-you-might-not-know" target="_blank">Hudson River</a></li><li>[23:22] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.clickfunnels.com/" target="_blank">ClickFunnels</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://squareup.com/us/en/townsquare/basic-labor-laws-how-to-hire-employees-correctly" target="_blank">Hiring Employees</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.sba.gov/starting-business/write-your-business-plan" target="_blank">Business Plan</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://hbr.org/2016/02/a-step-by-step-guide-to-firing-someone" target="_blank">Firing Employees</a></li><li>[23:52] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/the-inside-scoop-on-inside-baseball" target="_blank">Inside Baseball</a></li><li>[24:15] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">Podcaster</a></li><li>[24:24] What is the rocket fuel that propels those entrepreneurs who sell their business for more than expected</li><li>[24:45] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.divestopedia.com/definition/8382/competitive-tension#:~:text=Competitive%20tension%20refers%20to%20the,to%20acquire%20the%20same%20target." target="_blank">Competitive Tension</a></li><li>[24:52] LOL</li><li>[25:06] Arik Levy on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://builttosell.com/radio/episode-203/" target="_blank">Episode 203</a> of <em>Built to Sell Radio</em></li><li>[25:32] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.divestopedia.com/definition/6650/re-trading" target="_blank">Re-trading</a></li><li>[25:43] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/duediligence.asp" target="_blank">Due Diligence</a></li><li>[26:07] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/financing.asp" target="_blank">Financing</a></li><li>[26:20] <a href="https://www.luxerone.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Luxer One</a></li><li>[26:58] <a href="https://www.rockethomes.com/blog/home-buying/bidding-war#:~:text=What%20Is%20A%20Bidding%20War,hopes%20of%20winning%20the%20home." target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Bidding War</a></li><li>[27:23] Rocket Fuel vs. Jet Fuel</li></ul><ul><li>[27:28] Save time with your high-quality podcast. Email me at <a href="mailto:&#109;ax&#64;&#109;a&#120;po&#100;c&#97;s&#116;ing.&#99;&#111;&#109;">m&#97;&#120;&#64;ma&#120;p&#111;dcas&#116;&#105;ng&#46;co&#109;</a> to bring your podcast to life and use it as a business-building tool</li></ul></li></ul>



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<ul><li><strong>Wild Business Shoutout of the Week</strong><ul><li>[28:42] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://simplicable.com/new/creative-marketing#:~:text=Creative%20marketing%20is%20the%20process,products%20in%20an%20inspiring%20experience." target="_blank">Creative Marketing</a></li></ul><ul><li>[28:50] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.beastgear.co.uk/" target="_blank">Beast Gear</a>, Ben Leonard on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://builttosell.com/radio/episode-283/" target="_blank">Episode 283</a> of <em>Built to Sell Radio</em></li><li>[29:14] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/b/bootstrap.asp" target="_blank">Bootstrapped</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.ama.org/the-definition-of-marketing-what-is-marketing/#:~:text=Marketing%20is%20the%20activity%2C%20set,%2C%20and%20society%20at%20large.%20(" target="_blank">Marketing</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://adage.com/" target="_blank">Advertising</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://developers.google.com/search/docs/beginner/seo-starter-guide" target="_blank">SEO</a> (Search Engine Optimization)</li><li>[29:33] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://about.instagram.com/features/direct" target="_blank">DM</a> (Direct Message)</li><li>[30:04] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.smarter-companies.com/profiles/blogs/what-is-relationship-capital" target="_blank">Relationship Capital</a></li><li>[30:13] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=GQUXAMY73JFRVJHE#:~:text=Amazon%20calculates%20a%20product's%20star,the%20authenticity%20of%20the%20feedback." target="_blank">Amazon Ratings</a></li><li>[30:31] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.nike.com/" target="_blank">Nike</a></li><li>[30:55] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://hinative.com/en-US/questions/17473078#:~:text=what%20they%20should.-,An%20owner%20owns%20a%20business%2D%20it%20belongs%20to%20them.,others%20do%20what%20they%20should.&amp;text=Manager%20is%20someone%20who%20oversees%2Fsupervises%20others.,-%E5%BA%97%E9%95%B7%20(shop)%20or" target="_blank">Manager vs. Owner</a></li><li>[31:37] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/surprise-and-delight#:~:text=Surprise%20and%20delight%20is%20a,increasing%20profitability%20as%20a%20result." target="_blank">Surprise &amp; Delight</a> (S&amp;D)</li></ul></li></ul>



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<ul><li><strong>Rapid-Fire Q&amp;A</strong><ul><li>[31:51] What is a quirk John has</li><li>[32:01] Shoutout John&#8217;s wife!</li><li>[32:11] What is something about becoming a bestselling author that&#8217;s surprised John</li><li>[32:38] <a href="https://www.snowboarder.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Snowboarding</a>, <a href="https://www.imba.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Mountain Biking</a>, <a href="https://windsurf.star-board.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Windsurfing</a></li><li>[33:04] Connect with John at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://learn.builttosell.com/wild/?podcast=Wild%20Business%20Growth" target="_blank">BuiltToSell.com/Wild</a></li></ul><ul><li>[33:32] Follow the <em style="color: var(--color); font-family: var(--fontFamily); font-size: var(--fontSize); font-weight: var(--fontWeight); letter-spacing: var(--letterSpacing); text-transform: var(--textTransform);"><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">Wild Business Growth Podcast</a></em><span style="color: var(--color); font-family: var(--fontFamily); font-size: var(--fontSize); font-style: var(--fontStyle, inherit); font-weight: var(--fontWeight); letter-spacing: var(--letterSpacing); text-transform: var(--textTransform);"> and tell a friend about the podcast</span></li></ul><ul><li>[33:41] Check out the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast </em>on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.goodpods.com/" target="_blank">GoodPods</a>, where you can see what your favorite people are listening to</li><li>[33:43] Connect with me on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/maxbranstetter/" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/max-branstetter-74150a57/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a> at @MaxBranstetter</li><li>[33:46] Save time with your high-quality podcast. Email me at <a href="mailto:ma&#120;&#64;&#109;a&#120;&#112;&#111;&#100;&#99;a&#115;&#116;ing&#46;&#99;&#111;m">m&#97;&#120;&#64;&#109;a&#120;po&#100;cas&#116;i&#110;&#103;.&#99;o&#109;</a> to bring your podcast to life and use it as a business-building tool</li><li>Theme music: Freestyle Percussion Magik &#8211; Jungle Tribe &#8211; provided by Jamendo</li></ul></li></ul>



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<h2 id="podcast-summary"><strong>What is the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em>?</strong></h2>



<p>Wild ideas. Wild growth. Every Wednesday morning a new entrepreneur or innovator joins the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em> to share the crazy creative and unusual ways they grew their business, and provides tips for you to do it, too. Hear the woman who became the voice of Siri, the man who’s reinventing the sandcastle, how GaryVee’s partners are turning the wine world upside down, and more wild stories. Hosted by <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/about/" target="_blank">Max Branstetter</a> (that&#8217;s me), Founder and Podcast Producer at MaxPodcasting.</p>



<h2><strong>How do you start a podcast?</strong></h2>



<p>Interested in starting a professional-sounding podcast for your brand, but don&#8217;t want to deal with the time commitment? I’ve got you covered. Email me at <a href="mailto:&#109;&#97;&#120;&#64;&#109;a&#120;&#112;&#111;&#100;&#99;ast&#105;&#110;g&#46;com">&#109;&#97;&#120;&#64;m&#97;xpodcas&#116;&#105;&#110;g&#46;co&#109;</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool.</p>



<p>Thanks for listening to John Warrillow on the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast. </em>To hear more Wild stories like this one every Wednesday morning, follow the <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">Wild Business Growth Podcast</a></em> and tell a friend about it. Until next time, Let your business Run Wild&#8230;and <em><strong>Bring on the Bongos!!</strong></em></p>
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