This is the full transcript for Episode #296 of the Wild Business Growth podcast featuring Margo Jordan – Self-Esteem Booster, Founder of Enrichly. You can listen to the interview and learn more here. Please note: this transcript is not 100% accurate.
Margo Jordan 0:00
You teach best what you need the most.
Max Branstetter 0:18
Welcome back to the Wild Business Growth podcast. This is your place to hear from a new entrepreneur every single Wednesday morning who’s turning Wild ideas into Wild growth. I’m your host, Max Branstetter, Founder and Podcast Producer at MaxPodcasting. And you can email me at to save time with your high-quality podcast. This is episode 296. And today’s guest is Margo Jordan. Margo is the Founder and CEO of Enrichly, the number one self-esteem game in the world. It is a an incredible and incredibly enriching elearning platform as well as gaming app, especially for kids. And it’s all about boosting self esteem. In this episode, we talk how in ritually came to be why self esteem is so important. The real life case study that Margo has gone through to find the perfect fit from a customer standpoint and what an originally looks and feels like and works like. And on top of that. Margo is legitimately a hero. And on top of that, it’s incredible. She even recorded this podcast in the first place very well could have postponed or canceled more on that later in the interview. It is Margo. Enjoyyyyyy the showwwwww! Aaaaaalrightyyyyy we’re here with Margo Jordan, Founder and CEO of Enrichly, one of the most enriching one of one of the coolest, helpful educational and self-esteem promoting companies I’ve ever come across. Margo, thank you so much for joining. How you doing today?
Margo Jordan 2:06
I’m doing very well. How are you, Max?
Max Branstetter 2:08
I’m doing great doing great. And you know, both our names start with Ma. So we got we got that in common. But also, I saw looking up but you’re on your LinkedIn. You started in originally, or under the prior name. In August 2018, which is the same exact month we launched the Wild Business Growth podcast. So this was an interview destined to happen.
Margo Jordan 2:29
Oh, for sure. It’s so cool. I love that. Yeah.
Max Branstetter 2:33
So we’re, we’re twins, we’ve grown up together, really excited to get the Enrichly story and uncover all sorts of parts of your career. But before that, I know you spent a good number of years in the Army. So thank you for that. I mean, that’s awesome. By the way, can I ask you because I’ve heard different things from veterans do you prefer when people say thank you for your service? Or is it just no need to bring it up?
Margo Jordan 2:57
I mean, thank you for your service. It’s fine. I mean, I don’t mind. Okay.
Max Branstetter 3:02
All right. So thank you for your service. Thank you. What was it that you were actually doing in the in the Army? Or what was your favorite role that you did in the Army?
Margo Jordan 3:08
I was a truck driver. When I initially went in in 2007. Yeah, I want to in 2007, I was a truck driver. And then I was in the National Guard. And then I left while I stayed in the guard. But then I went into officer training school. And I was training to go into the finance brigade, while attending college, went to Texas Southern University. And then I was an officer training school for a couple of years, and then I ended up getting hurt in the military. So I had gotten an honorable discharge. And I’ve guess you can say I’ve been like, medically retired. Yeah. 2015. Wow.
Max Branstetter 3:48
Well, thank you again. Sorry about the injury. What? What kind of injury was it if you don’t mind sharing?
Margo Jordan 3:55
Um, it was an injury that had to do with I guess you can say it was a sexual assault.
Max Branstetter 4:05
So I’m sorry. i Yeah. You can tell I didn’t mean to, like playfully bring it up.
Margo Jordan 4:12
Fine. It’s fine. You know, it happens to a lot of women in the military. And it’s something that, you know, it happened and I am, I guess you can say in an honorably discharged veteran at a very young age, I served 10 years, but you know, it’s something that it happened I am I’ve accepted it a long time ago. It honestly made me who I am. It’s made me stronger because of what happened. So yeah.
Max Branstetter 4:47
I appreciate you share in that. You could tell I just have a knack for getting into really awkward question answer right from the beginning. So no, so you’re a trooper. Well, literally you’re a trooper. Are we going back growing up? Like, you know, when I was serving for the country? Was that always something that you kind of had in your in your sights?
Margo Jordan 5:08
No, actually, um, so my mother was in the military, I had a lot of family members to go to the army and go to the army was not even in my peripheral. I had not thought about it until I was a freshman in college, and I saw an ad. And it said something around paying for college, and traveling, and I was like, Oh, what is this? And I contacted the number and it was in an army recruiter. And I was like, Oh, wow, okay. I’ll check this opportunity out. And then I said, you know, what, why not serve my country do this really cool opportunity where I get to travel? And, you know, obviously get get my college paid for at the same time. I embarked on that journey and kind of there. Yeah,
Max Branstetter 5:52
no, no, that’s awesome. Like, you never know, like, some people are just kind of like, born from day one, or just like, like, I definitely want to serve. And then it’s always interesting, kind of like the organic way that ends up ends up for some people it was it was there anything during your time in the army that hinted towards starting your business, the
Margo Jordan 6:12
military taught me a lot about independence, grit, pivoting, how to be a great leader, they taught me a lot of things. And I kind of knew, when I left the army, that I didn’t want to go back into like a regular civilian mode. I had actually one of the reasons. Well, one of the other reasons I decided to join the military was really around. When I was younger, I grew up in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, and I actually struggled with like self esteem. And this was something that resulted from just a lot of childhood trauma. My parents were married and divorced, I mentioned my mother serve in the military. And she actually suffered from PTSD. So she actually had an acute addiction to drugs and alcohol. So when I was a kid in high school, I was just making a bunch of poor decisions, doing things that weren’t really leading me down the right path. As I stated earlier, you know, I had seen this opportunity to get my college paid for to travel all of these things. But then something that really piqued my interest was, you know, this whole opportunity to find myself pretty much. And because I had struggled with self -esteem, and I had made, you know, some really not so great decisions, I decided, why not join the army. And that was just a really great way for me, to develop who I was, as a person, I really developed my sense of self, my self-esteem flourished. And I was able to not only realize my potential, but actually start to reach toward what that potential could be. And it just so happened, that I got this neck when I still started getting into the military, I went into, get my bachelor’s degree in Finance went into investment banking. And I was still like, you know, I really want to create this solution to this problem that I had when I was a kid. And it was this problem around low self-esteem, the military taught me so much. And I said to myself, I can take some of these principles that I learned in the military, and turn it into a curriculum that I can teach young girls, and also help them develop self esteem. And it really just turned into a business. I knew that I wanted to start something that was more than just, oh, I want to make money. There was a social impact behind what it was that I was doing. I just had no idea that you know what, I had this thought it would lead me to where I am right now today.
Max Branstetter 9:03
So that segues perfectly so obviously it’s tied together. Self-esteem, super important. Let’s get to enrich Lee. So really, really natural way of starting a business? Over all the, I guess qualities or characteristics or? I don’t know, it’s been too long since I’ve taken health class, whatever you consider self-esteem. Like what why why why for anyone, especially like, you know, young adults. Why is self-esteem so important? Such
Margo Jordan 9:33
a great question. You know, when you think about have you heard of Maslow’s hierarchy of needs?
Max Branstetter 9:39
Yeah, of course. I do. Remember that from Health class. Yes.
Margo Jordan 9:43
So if you look at Maslow’s hierarchy of needs, right? Self-esteem is literally number four on the chart just has you know, physiological needs safety, love and belonging. Self-esteem is number four. So most people They don’t really make it past certain levels of the hierarchy chart before they can even reach where self-esteem is right after their self-esteem and self-actualization. When you think about issues like youth violence, poor mental health, low academic performance, depression, anxiety, all of these things, they have this one common denominator and it’s low self-esteem. There’s a book called Psycho-Cybernetics by Maxwell Maltz.
Max Branstetter 10:32
Great first name, by the way. Yes. I am a fellow Maxwell. So funny.
Margo Jordan 10:40
But yes, he wrote a book called Psycho-Cybernetics. He was a world renowned cosmetic surgeon, and he performed hundreds of surgeries on individuals. And he found that they were, I want to say 80% of them, they would always complain about the surgeries that he did. But it wasn’t that they were unhappy with his work, they were just unhappy with who they were, you know, internally. So it really didn’t matter what they got fixed, they were still unhappy with themselves in that unhappiness played a part in how they showed up in the world. So when you think about the fact that there’s a huge difference between self esteem and confidence, for example, you think watch your favorite athlete, your actor, your actress, they have all the confidence in the world when it comes to showing up on the court showing up on the field or playing that row. But why do so many athletes or entertainers have issues with drugs and alcohol, or maybe eating disorders or any of those things, it’s because they they’re still unhappy with themselves, they have a low self esteem. And, you know, I found that when I if my self esteem is low, if my self-image is distorted, I’m never really accessing my full potential, because I’m only going to act the way that I see myself. And we’ve done so much research and so many studies around when you improve self-esteem, and a child, they perform better academically, they lead happier lives. And they’re just more successful people. There was a study done that said, you know, people who have higher self-esteem actually generate more revenue in a lifetime than people with lower self-esteem. So it’s very interesting how self-esteem correlates with literally everything that a person does, and how successful they will be in life.
Max Branstetter 12:39
Yeah, thank you for sharing that. Yeah, it’s so true. I mean, I remember when learning about those qualities, yesterday, now, I self esteem is one that I always kind of latched on to because it’s like, it seemed like one of those characteristics or emotions where if you get it, right, if you have high self esteem, it clearly flows to like so many different aspects of your life. And, you know, it goes hand in hand with confidence, as you said, and all those different things. So it’s a great thing to build a business around in terms of actually building your elearning platform, your game. How did that start to take structure? Like what what was involved in making, you know, like, like, visually or tech wise, starting to put together something that’s actually usable by customer by learners? Yeah,
Margo Jordan 13:25
so I’m originally is like, it’s an ever evolving thing. So in 2017, when I decided to leave corporate America and you know, set off on this adventure, to develop self esteem in kids, I started with a brick and mortar, and that actually evolved from these youth conferences that I used to do. So I would bring out like these tween celebrity guests, and they would come to venues that were generally located in Houston, sometimes maybe Atlanta or wherever I saw fit. But they would come and they would talk to these kids about self esteem and positive body image, all of the things that were revolved around helping, you know, to boost self esteem and kids. And then it led from these youth conferences that I was doing, where I would invite like kids from the Disney Channel or Nickelodeon into a brick and mortar that I had built, built the brick and mortar. I had gotten an SBA loan of around sake of a quarter of a million dollars, built out a facility turned it into a franchise system actually. I literally wrote my own franchise document and had an attorney review it and he was like, he told me that it was the best franchise document he had ever seen, just written by an individual. And what I’ve done I just kind of went on. There was a free website where you can look at certain franchises hold your documents, and I literally just kind of took language that I saw from like McDonald’s or any of the other popular for sizes, and I just adopted it from home. And you know, it worked. But it saved me like that over $30,000. But yeah, I turned it into a franchise, we had gotten some like franchise applications, and we’re actually going to start to allow other people to open up locations of their own. And it was very similar to a tutoring center, where, you know, we were open from three to seven we have after school programs dropping and learning, but the only thing we were teaching children was how to develop a healthy self esteem. You know, we went from that brick and mortar to COVID happening and you know, everything went sort of South really fast. And we had to sort of cancel out all of our franchise applications, calls our brick and mortar, I had to really sit down and think, Okay, how do I take this thing that I had where we had real life programs, we had partnered with different school districts, and we were implementing programs in the classrooms to now we have to close our brick and mortar, and classrooms are closed. And that’s where I’m originally was born. And I, I remember it like it was yesterday. I do not have a technology background. But I thought to myself, How do I become a tech founder? How do I turn this paper curriculum into like really fun digital games. And it took me a while but I just I did a lot of research I found and a learning management system that I used as my I guess you can say the first very first version of enrich Lee, I knew from and this was back in 2020, that I wanted to use AI, before AI was a buzzword. It was my goal to really use a digital platform that improves self esteem and kids that was able to learn from the user based on how they’re answering certain questions. When it came to, you know, improving their self esteem, how can we make sure that we tailor the curriculum or the technology to exactly what that child needed. So you know, right now, today, I was able to hire a team of 26, that’s consist of full stack engineers, content developers, all of the above to really turn this paper curriculum into these digital digitally gamified courses, that look like video games to kids. And, you know, they focus on developing self esteem, we were, like I said, it virtually is ever evolving. We started selling to schools, because that’s what we left off it with our brick and mortar, and then turn that into selling to the police departments to help them lower up the violence to then discovering, well, we actually fit very well with healthcare, and you know, selling to large healthcare systems tapping into policy driven revenue. The interesting thing about him originally is that we’re focused on self esteem, though it’s very niche is very broad. So for us, we had to figure out okay, Which category do we really want to sell to? Do we want to sell to schools? Do we want to sell to law enforcement? Do we want to sell to health care, and it was a lot of hypothesis and really trying to figure out that ideal ICP. And you know, right now, today, and virtually is like a true SaaS product, where we sell to clinicians, therapists and counselors, they utilize and richly in the treatment plan for therapy sessions with their patients, their adolescent patients, and they can you know, Bill insurance and get reimbursed. So we finally found the fit, it feels really great. It took a while, but we made it over the hump. We were always generating revenue, we generated revenue from day one. But you know, as a founder, all money is not good money. And you have to find that revenue, if they can provide you with longevity, some type of guarantee and is repeatable business. So yeah, I hope that answers the question.
Max Branstetter 19:17
I’m sorry, I didn’t catch it. No, I’m just kidding. I’m counting. Your business is like a case study. Like they did it like an entrepreneur, like an entrepreneurship class I studied in college, like we covered so many businesses that have a really cool offering, and are trying to decide like, Who is the target market or like which direction to go to? Because a lot of times, there’s, as you know, like, there’s a lot of good choices and like, you could still have success. It’s not like all or nothing if you pick one choice or the other. But finding that best fit is definitely a journey and an ongoing effort. What sort of games did you offer that help with self esteem?
Margo Jordan 19:56
Yeah, so this is such a great voice. Um, so we have a game To defeat the dragon of negativity, and with that game, kids log in, so they log on to originally, one of the first things that they do is they take their self esteem assessment, and the self esteem assessment measures where their self esteem is, it’s how our recommendation engine provides them with content focused on improving their particular areas of struggle, we send them on a learning journey, either individually peer to peer, or through the expert led facilitation. But like the feet, the dragon that make it tivity, after they take the self esteem assessment, they would pick a game, we’re just gonna say it’s defeat the dragon, it takes him into sort of like this Dragon Lair, and the dragon is like, the voice of negativity that’s always in your head. So we educate them on you know, what is negative self talk ways to overcome that. And they meet this wizard that says, Okay, we have to unlock these levels. But in order to unlock levels, we have to answer each question. And the question is based on everything that they’ve learned, and how to reframe sort of negative talk into more positive thinking, and they have to select the positive phrases versus negative phrases, each level gets a bit more difficult, where we’re putting them in scenarios and saying, Okay, you’re, you know, you’re getting ready to take a math test, and you really didn’t study, but what are you what are some things that you can tell yourself to put yourself in like a really great mindset, because these are things that actually happen to kids. And some parents place so much pressure on their child that their child develops anxiety, and all of these other things. So we make sure to include real world scenarios in each game, but like the defeat the dragon of negativity, each level, paints a different scenario on how to improve your mindset, and how to get into how to get out of negative self talk. So that’s an example of a game that provides them with one of the tools to improve their self esteem.
Max Branstetter 22:07
I already hate this dragon of negativity, I want to destroy it. Because this is really fun, I can see that see the benefits of it? How would you characterize to developing a game as a quote unquote, non tech founder?
Margo Jordan 22:21
Oh, my gosh, I’m very interesting journey. So first of all, I had to really do my research around different gaming tools, but gaming tools that were easily integrated into a learning management system. So when I did that research, it allowed me to come up with a couple of different options that I was then able to compare and contrast. From there, I had to find a developer who was really good at the tool with the tool that I wanted to use. So for me, I was using something called Thinkific, which is a learning management system. And I found out that Thinkific integrates with SCORM and genially files, which are really like story files or HTML. And I went on Upwork, which is, you know, it’s a tool where you find contractors to do any and everything that you could imagine I found someone on Upwork, who was really good at creating genially files. And actually, I was using Articulate Storyline initially, when this was an early days when, to me the games. They were good, they got the job done. But they just they don’t look nearly as good as they look right now, however, found someone who was really good at Articulate Storyline, I really had to explain to this person how I wanted the game to to be. So I sent them over curriculum. Now mind you, this was back in 2020, slash 21. COVID had just happened. So a lot of people were looking for different options when it comes to online learning. So people were using like Google Slides and PowerPoint, but I needed something that was a lot more interactive and engaging for kids. So when I found the contractor, I explained to them what I needed, sent them over the curriculum. And you know, it just kind of went from there, I paid probably less than $15,000 and generated like quarter of a million dollars in revenue from client with this little MVP. And I was using a third party system called Thinkific to host the content. And it was a really great solution for what we needed to prove out. Okay, do kids want to play these games? And as you know, if if your product is solving the issue for the customer, they really don’t care how ugly it looks, they just want access to it. From there. You know, I kind of just grew from using Articulate Storyline files with one of my account attractors, who was literally based in Australia, to now I have like a team of 10 that are based from, you know, Canada to Brazil to the Philippines, we’re actually working with the royal family out in the UAE. And they’re creating content on genially and integrating them into my own platform that I built from scratch. Yeah, I learned so much. And even though sometimes I’m like pulling my hair out, and asking myself, why guys, what are you doing? I’m proud of the product that was created in the games that we get to host on the platform, we literally just sold like 10 of our games to Harris County Department of Education, so that they can use on their on their platform. And it’s, it’s really great. It was a great learning experience as a founder. And yeah,
Max Branstetter 25:55
by the way, that explains like I know you live in Houston, it’s on your LinkedIn. And when you accepted my Calendly invite for this. It said Dubai time is when you scheduled it. And I was like, Wait a second, what’s going on? Yeah.
Margo Jordan 26:10
Yes, I was, I was actually living out in Abu Dhabi for a couple of months. I’m actually headed back in September, because we are working with the Early Childhood authority. We were piloting our programs out there, and we’re going to do more work in that region. And there’s a massive opportunity for what we’re offering. Oh,
Max Branstetter 26:27
that’s, that’s super cool. So I wasn’t just saying things when it said to buy time on email. Well, well, congrats on all the success and good. I mean, in terms of ROI on an MVP, just if we’re gonna keep rolling with the acronyms here, that is incredible, you know, it’s been able to afford you grow in the team like that, and expanding it and improving graphics and all that. What, looking back on this journey so far, what would you say is has been the biggest driver for the growth of enriching
Margo Jordan 26:57
our my team, and our personal stories with, you know, self-esteem. And each and every one of us really knowing and understanding that what we’re doing is like, way bigger than us. And we have to solve this massive issue in our society, if we want to see some change in the next 1020 30 years. You know, for everyone on the team, I can honestly and truly say, it’s not just been about the money, I had to tell my team, you know, hey, I don’t have payroll, can you all wait to get paid? Because, you know, we work with a lot of our government entities or like school districts and cash flow was like, Lumpy at times. And, you know, they said, Yeah, we believe in the mission, we believe in you as our leader. So whatever you need, and, you know, for me, it really kind of made me look at my team, like, you know, you all you really care about what we’re building, and it’s not just about the money, that really just made me feel great. So my team, I think, is definitely the biggest driver in growth. The second thing that I would say as I think if there is just a massive gap in the market, for what we’re offering, when it comes to what I coined as the phrase is personal development technology. You know, personal development is like a $3 billion industry itself. And when you think about it, there’s mainly audibles and podcasts that you know people like myself or even add my lead or Gary Vee or any of these other like motivational sort of speakers will come on and they will they will talk about giving you the competence that you need to go and be whatever it is you need to be. And so many people are missing that piece, that the industry is huge, but there is no really technology that speaks to that the fact that inwardly is focused on improving self esteem and then it’s nice but very broad is also a huge driver because I don’t think that I can say I’ve walked away in a single month without a sale from to someone whether it’s a government entity, healthcare, and nonprofit or whatever the case is.
Max Branstetter 29:29
We are totally going to destroy the virus because that was such a beautiful note to end on. But I want to wrap up with Rapid-Fire Q&A. Are you ready for it?
Margo Jordan 29:39
Yes.
Max Branstetter 29:40
All right, Let’s Get Wild. We’ll switch it up a bit. I’m gonna call this question the goat meaning the game of all time in addition to the games on in ritually, this could be from you know, childhood or, you know, anytime your lifetime. What would you say is your favorite game of all time? Like could be a video game board game, game of sports, whatever you want. You just pick one
Margo Jordan 30:04
for me to have created this platform where you have to play games to develop your self esteem. I’ve never really been a huge gamer. However,
Max Branstetter 30:12
I was gonna guess one after you said you weren’t a you’re a non-tech founder. You never know.
Margo Jordan 30:17
I would say Mortal Kombat. Oh, that’s a classic. My favorite. That’s the game when I was a kid. If I wouldn’t say I played anything. It was Mortal Kombat. Now physical sports wise it was dodgeball is between those two.
Max Branstetter 30:33
Dodgeball: great game, great movie. Mortal Kombat, who’s your favorite Mortal Kombat character?
Margo Jordan 30:38
The girl with the long ponytail.
Max Branstetter 30:43
Oh, I know. I can’t think of her name. But I know. Yeah, I know what you’re talking about.
Margo Jordan 30:48
Or the guy who usually says “Get over here.” I don’t know his name.
Max Branstetter 30:53
To get over here, guy. Yeah, get over here. Hi. All right. So you mentioned Abu Dhabi. What is your favorite thing to do? On a long flight other than sleep? Work?
Margo Jordan 31:08
I like oh, wait, no, or I’ll say watch movies.
Max Branstetter 31:11
But those are those are very different things. Do you find yourself working or watching movies more?
Margo Jordan 31:15
I don’t know, like, so when I’m on a long flight. And I honestly, I enjoy the flight because the food is really great. And I get to relax. And my phone is not ringing because I’m in the air. Yeah, novel in what? Nice a movie and respond to a bunch of emails or just, you know, work on my spreadsheets. And that’s like, one of my favorite things to do on the white is
Max Branstetter 31:41
really nice. Like, it’s hard to have moments like that these days, where, you know, you’re gonna, you’re not gonna get hit up with a bunch of alerts and notifications. Like it’s really nice. And it’s nice to it’s very peaceful and serene to be doing whatever you’re doing and then look out and you’re like, Oh, my God, we’re on top of the clouds. We’re up.
Margo Jordan 32:00
Exactly. Now, you know, my children frequently fly with me back and forth. So but when they’re not with me, it’s very peaceful.
Max Branstetter 32:08
Absolutely. What is your favorite thing to do or recommend to people in Milwaukee?
Margo Jordan 32:20
Oh, wow. Go to Summerfest. It’s this festival that they do every summer. And they have like so many different types of foods and rides, and they usually do concerts every year. But if you’re ever Milwaukee in the summer, I would definitely say to hit up Summerfest.
Max Branstetter 32:40
That just sounds nice Summerfest. It’s like play it’s almost as pleasant as like not getting hit up with phone calls on an on a phone or on a plane.
Margo Jordan 32:48
Yeah, I’m actually going to make your trip to Milwaukee this summer that I plan to stop at Summerfest
Max Branstetter 32:55
Perfect. Awesome. Well, look, I’m looking forward to the pics and videos. Last one, I know you spent some time or I think multiple stints working at banks. Oh what’s what’s something about being a banker, or working at a bank that you think most people in the public would be surprised to hear? Working
Margo Jordan 33:13
at the bank was actually where I develop my sales skills. I’ve always been a great seller. However, when I was working at a bank, I was really able to grow my field skills as an investment banker, because I had to go out and get accounts and I had to figure out how to do that. And they like threw me in the gauntlet day one it was like, Okay, you need to go get 40 accounts this month. I was like, Oh God, how do I do this? I had to figure it out. And you know, that’s where I learned my, my failed skills.
Max Branstetter 33:49
Yeah, that’s a great one. I just love hearing about skills and aspect aspects of people’s personnel. I don’t know where I’m going with this. I like I like hearing about skills people people take from each job of their career, but not for sure. Margo, thank you so much. This has been awesome and really appreciate your story and and being open about everything and all you’re doing with Enrichly and on top of that just, you know for the listeners. So Margo, we’re recording this right after the hurricane hit Houston, you’re based in Houston. You’re also as if your plate wasn’t full enough like you you have a baby that demands a lot of your time as well. Yeah, and instead of moving this Margo was like you know like let’s do this I have time now I’ve been excited for this let’s knock it out. So this is one of the most impressive podcast guessing performances I’ve ever heard. So So Thanks again thanks again for doing this. Where is the best place for people to try out in ritual your learn more about it if they want to as well as if they want to connect with you online?
Margo Jordan 34:55
Yeah, I’m self originally just go to Enrichly.World you can find us on Instagram it’s @Enrich.Ly. And then I’m on LinkedIn. It’s just Margo Jordan. Email me at
Max Branstetter 35:18
There’s a whole world of ways to contact you see what I did there. Last thing final thoughts. It could be a quote words to live by another slogan from catchphrase for Mortal Kombat. Wherever you want send us home here.
Margo Jordan 35:31
You teach best what you need the most.
Max Branstetter 35:37
Well said and well taught. Thank you so much, Margo, for all you do, for coming on the podcast, for sharing your incredible Enrichly story and beyond. And thank you, Wild Listeners, for tuning in to another episode. If you want to hear more Wild stories like this one, make sure to Subscribe or Follow the Wild Business Growth podcast on your favorite podcast app. As well as hit Subscribe on YouTube. YouTube is @MaxBranstetter. You can also find us on Goodpods. And for any help with podcast production, you can learn more at MaxPodcasting.com and sign up for the Podcasting to the Max newsletter. That is that MaxPodcasting.com/Newsletter. Until next time, let your business Run Wild…Bring on the Bongos!!
