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		<title>David Lee &#8211; Wild Business Growth Podcast #357: Nex Playground, Active Video Games for Your Living Room</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[David Lee, the Co-Founder &#038; CEO of Nex and Nex Playground, joins the Wild Business Growth podcast to share his journey from selling a company to Apple to creating the smart little cube with active video games that transforms your living room.]]></description>
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<p>Make it possible. That&#8217;s the story of this week&#8217;s <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth</em></a>&nbsp;podcast guest, David Lee. David is the Co-Founder &amp; CEO of Nex and Nex Playground. Listen to the episode on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wild-business-growth-podcast/id1422144338?mt=2" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6mSUsqYobBljhKIuK9sKJV" target="_blank">Spotify</a>, and your other favorite <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">podcast platforms</a>, and watch on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPJ7ovuCpHVg7SJchnF2BZg" target="_blank">YouTube</a>.</p>



<ul><li><a href="#episode-summary">Episode Summary &amp; Player</a></li><li><a href="#full-transcript">Full Transcript</a></li><li><a href="#show-notes">Show Notes</a></li><li><a href="#podcast-summary"><em>Wild Business Growth </em>podcast Summary</a></li></ul>



<h2 id="episode-summary">Episode 357: David Lee &#8211; Nex Playground, Active Video Games for Your Living Room</h2>



<p>David Lee, the Co-Founder &amp; CEO of Nex and Nex Playground, joins the show to share his journey from selling a company to Apple to creating the smart little cube with active video games that transforms your living room. Hear how to break down a complicated problem, how David &amp; team put all this cool technology in a small box, how to build a subscription model, how Steve Jobs gave feedback, and David’s history with former NBA player David Lee. This episode covers everything from HomeCourt to <em>StarCraft II</em>. Here&#8217;s a small sample of what you will hear in this episode:</p>



<ul><li>Why did Apple buy EditGrid</li><li>How did David develop the HomeCourt app</li><li>When did he realize this technology could work for active video games</li><li>How big is the Nex Playground</li><li>Why is there beauty in constraints</li></ul>



<p>Connect with David at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.nexplayground.com/" target="_blank">NexPlayground.com</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.playthatmovesyou.com/" target="_blank">PlayThatMovesYou.com</a>, on social media <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/nexplayground" target="_blank">@NexPlayground</a>, and on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidlkf/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a>.</p>



<h2 id="full-transcript"></h2>



<p>Enjoy the shoooooow! Check out the show notes below for much more detail. You can also find the full transcript <a href="https://maxpodcasting.com/david-lee-transcript/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">here</a>.</p>



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<h2 id="show-notes"><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2>



<ul><li><strong>Intro &amp; Getting Acquired by Apple</strong><ul><li>[0:22] Email me at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="mailto:m&#97;&#120;&#64;h&#105;&#112;p&#111;&#100;i&#114;e&#99;&#116;&#46;co&#109;" target="_blank">max&#64;ma&#120;p&#111;&#100;&#99;as&#116;&#105;&#110;g.co&#109;</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool</li></ul><ul><li>[0:36] Connect with David at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.nexplayground.com/" target="_blank">NexPlayground.com</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.playthatmovesyou.com/" target="_blank">PlayThatMovesYou.com</a>, on social media <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/nexplayground" target="_blank">@NexPlayground</a>, and on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidlkf/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a></li><li>[2:30] What did David learn from his company being acquired by <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.apple.com/" target="_blank">Apple</a></li><li>[5:50] Why did Apple buy <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EditGrid" target="_blank">EditGrid</a> </li></ul></li></ul>



<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-large is-resized"><img loading="lazy" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/SquadShot-David-Lee-1024x538.png" alt="SquadShot David Lee" class="wp-image-11536" width="722" height="379" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/SquadShot-David-Lee-1024x538.png 1024w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/SquadShot-David-Lee-400x210.png 400w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/SquadShot-David-Lee-768x403.png 768w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/SquadShot-David-Lee-500x263.png 500w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/SquadShot-David-Lee-400x210@2x.png 800w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/SquadShot-David-Lee.png 1200w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/SquadShot-David-Lee-500x263@2x.png 1000w" sizes="(max-width: 722px) 100vw, 722px" /><figcaption>The Real David Lee</figcaption></figure></div>



<ul><li><strong>The Nex Playground Story</strong><ul><li>[10:45] How did David develop the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.homecourt.ai/" target="_blank">HomeCourt</a> app</li><li>[13:23] How do you break down a complicated problem</li><li>[14:16] What was the &#8220;aha&#8221; moment for <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.homecourt.ai/" target="_blank">AI tracking technology</a></li><li>[14:54] Which basketball coaches did David work with on HomeCourt</li><li>[17:02] When did David realize this technology could work for active video games</li><li>[20:44] How big is the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.nexplayground.com/" target="_blank">Nex Playground</a></li><li>[21:31] How did David &amp; team put all this cool technology in a small box</li><li>[25:13] Shoutout, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kenkrasnow/" target="_blank">Ken Krasnow</a>!</li><li>[25:35] Why is there beauty in constraints</li><li>[27:52] How does David decide which <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.nexplayground.com/games" target="_blank">games</a> are on Nex Playground</li><li>[31:44] How do you build a <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.nexplayground.com/play-pass" target="_blank">subscription model</a></li><li>[33:19] The <em>Wild Business Growth</em> podcast is on YouTube! <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/@maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Subscribe @MaxBranstetter</a> to watch full video interviews with Wild entrepreneurs like David every Friday</li></ul><ul><li>[33:21] Sign up for the <em>Podcasting to the Max</em> newsletter at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/newsletter/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/Newsletter</a> and receive <em>How to Edit Your Podcast in Audacity</em>. It&#8217;s where podcasting meets entrepreneurship &#8211; and terrible puns</li><li>[33:22] Such an honor speaking at Podcast Movement &#8217;23 in Denver! Sign up to grab the slides from my session at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/PM23/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/PM23</a></li></ul></li></ul>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-large is-resized"><img loading="lazy" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/61Pg7ofgYHL-1024x1024.jpg" alt="Nex Playground" class="wp-image-11538" width="584" height="584" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/61Pg7ofgYHL-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/61Pg7ofgYHL-200x200@2x.jpg 400w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/61Pg7ofgYHL-200x200.jpg 200w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/61Pg7ofgYHL-768x768.jpg 768w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/61Pg7ofgYHL-500x500.jpg 500w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/61Pg7ofgYHL-400x400@2x.jpg 800w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/61Pg7ofgYHL-1280x1280.jpg 1280w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/61Pg7ofgYHL-1920x1920.jpg 1920w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/61Pg7ofgYHL-768x768@2x.jpg 1536w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/61Pg7ofgYHL-1024x1024@2x.jpg 2048w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/61Pg7ofgYHL-500x500@2x.jpg 1000w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/61Pg7ofgYHL-800x800@2x.jpg 1600w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/61Pg7ofgYHL-1280x1280@2x.jpg 2560w" sizes="(max-width: 584px) 100vw, 584px" /><figcaption><a href="https://www.nexplayground.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Nex Playground</a></figcaption></figure>



<ul><li><strong>Rapid-Fire Q&amp;A</strong><ul><li>[33:42] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JJ_Redick" target="_blank">JJ Redick</a></li><li>[35:20] What was the hardest class at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.hku.hk/" target="_blank">The University of Hong Kong</a> (HKU)</li><li>[36:00] How did <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Jobs" target="_blank">Steve Jobs</a> give feedback</li><li>[37:28] Which <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://starcraft2.blizzard.com/" target="_blank">video game character</a> would David love to have dinner with </li><li>[38:52] What&#8217;s a funny story about former NBA player <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Lee_(basketball)" target="_blank">David Lee</a></li><li>[39:37] Connect with David at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.nexplayground.com/" target="_blank">NexPlayground.com</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.playthatmovesyou.com/" target="_blank">PlayThatMovesYou.com</a>, on social media <a href="https://www.instagram.com/nexplayground" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@NexPlayground</a>, and on <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidlkf/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li></ul><ul><li>[40:21] What are David&#8217;s Final Thoughts</li></ul><ul><li>[41:06] Follow the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth</em></a> podcast and tell a friend about the podcast. And show love (or roast me) by leaving 5 stars on Apple Podcasts and/or Spotify</li></ul><ul><li>[41:12] The <em>Wild Business Growth</em> podcast is on YouTube! <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/@maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Subscribe @MaxBranstetter</a> to watch full video interviews with Wild entrepreneurs like David</li></ul><ul><li>[41:14] Check out the <em>Wild Business Growth</em> podcast<em>&nbsp;</em>on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.goodpods.com/" target="_blank">Goodpods</a>, where you can see what your favorite people are listening to</li><li>[41:15]&nbsp;Connect with me on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/max-branstetter-74150a57/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/maxbranstetter/" target="_blank">Instagram</a>,&nbsp;<a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Twitter</a> (aka <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/maxbranstetter" target="_blank">X</a>), and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.threads.net/@maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Threads</a> @MaxBranstetter and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.tiktok.com/@wildbusinessgrowth" target="_blank">TikTok</a> @WildBusinessGrowth</li></ul><ul><li>[41:17] Save time with your high-quality podcast. Email me at <a href="mailto:&#109;&#97;x&#64;&#109;&#97;xpod&#99;a&#115;t&#105;n&#103;&#46;&#99;&#111;&#109;">ma&#120;&#64;&#109;axpodc&#97;s&#116;i&#110;g&#46;c&#111;m</a> to bring your podcast to life and use it as a business-building tool</li><li>[41:19] Sign up for the <em>Podcasting to the Max</em> newsletter at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/newsletter/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/Newsletter</a> and receive <em>How to Edit Your Podcast in Audacity</em>. It&#8217;s where podcasting meets entrepreneurship &#8211; and terrible puns</li><li>Theme music: Freestyle Percussion Magik &#8211; &#8220;Jungle Tribe&#8221; &#8211; provided by Jamendo</li></ul></li></ul>



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<h2 id="podcast-summary"><strong>What is the <em>Wild Business Growth</em> podcast?</strong></h2>



<p>Wild ideas. Wild growth. Every Wednesday morning a new entrepreneur joins the <em>Wild Business Growth </em>podcast to share the wildly creative and unusual ways they grew their business &#8211; and teaches you how to do it, too. Hear the minds behind WordPress, Stacy&#8217;s Pita Chips, Drybar, NFL RedZone, Big Mouth Billy Bass, the voice of Bart Simpson, and more Wild stories. Hosted by <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/about/" target="_blank">Max Branstetter</a> (that&#8217;s me), Founder and Podcast Producer at MaxPodcasting.</p>



<h2><strong>How do you start a podcast?</strong></h2>



<p>Interested in starting a professional-sounding and professional-looking podcast for your brand, but don&#8217;t want to deal with the time commitment of all those behind-the-scenes details? I’ve got you covered. Email me at <a href="mailto:&#109;&#97;&#120;&#64;&#109;a&#120;&#112;od&#99;&#97;s&#116;i&#110;g&#46;&#99;&#111;m">max&#64;ma&#120;&#112;od&#99;&#97;s&#116;&#105;ng&#46;com</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool.</p>



<p>Thanks for listening to David Lee on the <em>Wild Business Growth</em> podcast.<em> </em>To hear more Wild stories like this one every Wednesday morning, follow the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth</em></a> podcast and tell a friend about it. And play some Nex Playground with them. Until next time, Let your business Run Wild&#8230;and <strong><em>Bring on the Bongos!!</em></strong></p>
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		<title>Joe Schaeppi &#8211; Wild Business Growth Podcast #269: Video Game Brain Tester, Co-Founder of Solsten</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Max Branstetter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2024 02:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Joe Schaeppi, the Co-Founder and CEO of Solsten, joins the Wild Business Growth Podcast to share his journey from performing adventure-based psychotherapy to pioneering cognitive assessments using video games.]]></description>
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<p>How can we use video games to learn more about each other? That&#8217;s the story of this week&#8217;s <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em></a> guest, Joe Schaeppi. Joe is the Co-Founder and CEO of Solsten. Listen to the episode on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wild-business-growth-podcast/id1422144338?mt=2" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6mSUsqYobBljhKIuK9sKJV" target="_blank">Spotify</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPJ7ovuCpHVg7SJchnF2BZg" target="_blank">YouTube</a>, and your other favorite <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">podcast platforms</a>.</p>



<ul><li><a href="#episode-summary">Episode Summary &amp; Player</a></li><li><a href="#full-transcript">Full Transcript</a></li><li><a href="#show-notes">Show Notes</a></li><li><a href="#podcast-summary"><em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em> Summary</a></li></ul>



<h2 id="episode-summary">Episode 269: Joe Schaeppi – Video Game Brain Tester, Co-Founder of Solsten</h2>



<p>Joe Schaeppi, the Co-Founder and CEO of Solsten, joins the show to share his journey from performing adventure-based psychotherapy to pioneering cognitive assessments using video games. Hear the most interesting things we can learn about humans through video games, the science behind the flow state, how American cities were designed, the power of psychographics, and the Wildest theories about the universe. This episode covers everything from <em>Harry Potter</em> to Google Maps. Here&#8217;s a small sample of what you will hear in this episode:</p>



<ul><li>How was Joe&#8217;s adventure in Switzerland</li><li>What is Adventure-Based Psychotherapy</li><li>Where did the idea for Solsten come from</li><li>The World Tour of Examples</li><li>How does Solsten work</li><li>What are the most interesting insights to come out of Joe&#8217;s research &amp; work</li><li>Bounded Reciprocity</li><li>String Theory</li></ul>



<p>Connect with Joe at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://solsten.io/" target="_blank">Solsten.io</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://wellbeing.solsten.io/" target="_blank">WellBeing.Solsten.io</a>, and on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/schaeppi" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a>.</p>



<h2 id="full-transcript"></h2>



<p>Enjoy the shoooooow! Check out the show notes below for much more detail. You can also find the full transcript <a href="https://maxpodcasting.com/joe-schaeppi-transcript/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">here</a>.</p>



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<h2 id="show-notes"><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2>



<ul><li><strong>Intro &amp; The North Face Ski Ambassador</strong><ul><li>[0:29] Email me at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="mailto:m&#97;x&#64;&#104;&#105;pp&#111;&#100;ir&#101;c&#116;.com" target="_blank">&#109;&#97;&#120;&#64;m&#97;&#120;&#112;o&#100;&#99;&#97;st&#105;&#110;g.&#99;&#111;&#109;</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool</li><li>[0:38] Connect with Joe at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://solsten.io/" target="_blank">Solsten.io</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://wellbeing.solsten.io/" target="_blank">WellBeing.Solsten.io</a>, and on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/schaeppi" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a></li></ul><ul><li>[1:50] Starting off hot</li><li>[2:11] How did Joe become a <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.thenorthface.com/en-us/about-us/athletes" target="_blank">The North Face Ski Ambassador</a></li><li>[2:31] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://buckhill.com/" target="_blank">Buck Hill</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.lindseyvonn.com/en/home/" target="_blank">Lindsey Vonn</a></li><li>[3:21] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/joeschaeppi/" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li></ul><ul><li>[3:26] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://jimmychin.com/" target="_blank">Jimmy Chin</a></li><li>[3:57] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://careerfoundry.com/en/blog/ux-design/what-is-user-experience-ux-design-everything-you-need-to-know-to-get-started/#:~:text=14%20mins%20read-,What%20is%20user%20experience%20(UX)%20design%3F,enjoyable%20for%20the%20end%2Dusers." target="_blank">UX Design</a> (User Experience)</li><li>[4:48] Shoutout, Dana &amp; Adam!</li><li>[5:05] How was Joe&#8217;s adventure in Switzerland</li><li>[6:03] <a href="https://www.seeverbier.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Verbier</a>, Switzerland</li></ul><ul><li>[6:07] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.hfes.org/About-HFES/What-is-Human-Factors-and-Ergonomics#:~:text=Human%20factors%20(HF)%20is%20the,design%20of%20devices%20and%20systems." target="_blank">Human Factors</a> (HF)</li><li>[6:21] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://fortune.com/ranking/fortune500/" target="_blank">Fortune 500</a></li><li>[6:35] What is <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.verywellmind.com/adventure-therapy-definition-types-techniques-and-efficacy-5270553" target="_blank">Adventure-Based Psychotherapy</a></li><li>[6:55] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilderness_therapy" target="_blank">Wilderness Therapy</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/massage-therapy/about/pac-20384595" target="_blank">Massage Therapy</a></li><li>[7:05] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.bls.gov/ooh/life-physical-and-social-science/psychologists.htm#:~:text=to%20workplace%20issues.-,Psychologists%20study%20cognitive%2C%20emotional%2C%20and%20social%20processes%20and%20behavior%20by,help%20improve%20processes%20and%20behaviors." target="_blank">Psychologist</a></li><li>[7:27] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/earth-and-planetary-sciences/risk-perception#:~:text=Risk%20perception%20refers%20to%20people's,significant%20concern%20for%20risk%20communication." target="_blank">Risk Perception</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://go.drugbank.com/drugs/DB00668#:~:text=Summary,congestion%2C%20glaucoma%2C%20and%20asthma." target="_blank">Epinephrine</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/body/23038-adrenaline" target="_blank">Adrenaline</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/neuroscience/dendrite" target="_blank">Dendrite</a></li><li>[8:12] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.verywellmind.com/what-you-need-to-know-about-eustress-3145109" target="_blank">Eustress</a></li><li>[8:20] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.samhsa.gov/mental-health/post-traumatic-stress-disorder#:~:text=PTSD%20makes%20you%20feel%20stressed,months%20or%20even%20years%20later." target="_blank">PTSD</a> (Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder)</li><li>[10:27] Got &#8217;em</li><li>[10:52] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.samhsa.gov/mental-health" target="_blank">Mental Health</a></li></ul></li></ul>



<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-large is-resized"><img loading="lazy" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/SquadShot-Joe-Schaeppi-1024x538.png" alt="Joe Schaeppi - Wild Business Growth Podcast #269: Video Game Brain Tester, Co-Founder of Solsten" class="wp-image-8192" width="677" height="356" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/SquadShot-Joe-Schaeppi-1024x538.png 1024w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/SquadShot-Joe-Schaeppi-400x210.png 400w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/SquadShot-Joe-Schaeppi-768x403.png 768w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/SquadShot-Joe-Schaeppi-500x263.png 500w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/SquadShot-Joe-Schaeppi-400x210@2x.png 800w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/SquadShot-Joe-Schaeppi.png 1200w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/SquadShot-Joe-Schaeppi-500x263@2x.png 1000w" sizes="(max-width: 677px) 100vw, 677px" /><figcaption>Joe coming to you from Sweden!</figcaption></figure></div>



<ul><li><strong>The Solsten Story</strong><ul><li>[11:58] Where did the idea for <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://solsten.io/" target="_blank">Solsten</a> come from</li><li>[12:25] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://neildegrassetyson.com/" target="_blank">Neil deGrasse Tyson</a></li><li>[12:46] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.bls.gov/ooh/life-physical-and-social-science/physicists-and-astronomers.htm" target="_blank">Physicist</a></li><li>[13:01] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.apa.org/pubs/journals/pas" target="_blank">Psychological Assessment</a></li><li>[13:08] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.myersbriggs.org/my-mbti-personality-type/myers-briggs-overview/" target="_blank">Myers-Briggs</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.16personalities.com/entj-personality" target="_blank">ENTJ</a></li><li>[13:21] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.buzzfeed.com/marietelling/which-harry-potter-character-are-you" target="_blank">Which <em>Harry Potter</em> character are you</a></li><li>[13:48] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Sagan" target="_blank">Carl Sagan</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.britannica.com/science/quantum-mechanics-physics" target="_blank">Quantum Mechanics</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://scienceexchange.caltech.edu/topics/quantum-science-explained/quantum-physics#:~:text=Quantum%20physics%20is%20the%20study,us%2C%20acting%20on%20every%20scale." target="_blank">Quantum Physics</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-is-consciousness/" target="_blank">Consciousness</a></li><li>[15:07] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/flow-state#:~:text=The%20term%20%E2%80%9Cflow%20state%E2%80%9D%20describes,about%20themselves%20or%20their%20performance." target="_blank">Flow State</a></li></ul><ul><li>[15:44] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.pcmag.com/picks/the-best-phones" target="_blank">Smartphones</a></li><li>[16:14] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.bigfishgames.com/us/en/pc-games.html" target="_blank">Big Fish Games</a></li><li>[16:38] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doner_kebab" target="_blank">Doner Kebab</a></li><li>[17:51] The World Tour of Examples</li></ul><ul><li>[18:08] Volta Voloshin-Smith – <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/volta-voloshin-smith/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em> #265</a>: Watercolor Meditation, Founder of <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.colorsnack.com/" target="_blank">Color Snack</a></li><li>[18:29] What can we learn about humans through video games</li><li>[18:51] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.bestcolleges.com/careers/psychology/behavioral-psychology/#:~:text=The%20field%20of%20behavioral%20psychology,concepts%20in%20this%20psychological%20field." target="_blank">Behavioral Psychology</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B._F._Skinner" target="_blank">B. F. Skinner</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.britannica.com/biography/Sigmund-Freud" target="_blank">Sigmund Freud</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/what-is-cognitive-psychology#:~:text=Cognitive%20psychology%20is%20the%20branch,think%20the%20way%20you%20do." target="_blank">Cognitive Psychology</a></li><li>[19:16] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://study.com/academy/lesson/personality-theories-types-lesson-quiz.html#:~:text=Psychoanalytic%2C%20humanistic%2C%20trait%20perspective%20and,environmental%20experiences%20of%20a%20person." target="_blank">Theory of Personality</a></li><li>[19:26] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.facebook.com/zuck/" target="_blank">Mark Zuckerberg</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milk_caps_(game)" target="_blank">Pogs</a></li><li>[20:07] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.sas.com/en_us/insights/analytics/what-is-artificial-intelligence.html#:~:text=Artificial%20intelligence%20(AI)%20makes%20it,learning%20and%20natural%20language%20processing." target="_blank">AI</a> (Artificial Intelligence)</li><li>[20:38] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.formpl.us/blog/what-are-adaptive-survey-designs-meaning-types-implementation-pros-cons" target="_blank">Adaptive Questionnaire</a></li><li>[21:21] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.act.org/content/act/en/products-and-services/the-act.html#:~:text=The%20ACT%20Test%20Overview,not%20affect%20your%20composite%20score." target="_blank">ACT</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://satsuite.collegeboard.org/sat/registration/dates-deadlines" target="_blank">SAT</a></li><li>[21:33] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.techtarget.com/whatis/definition/telemetry#:~:text=Telemetry%20is%20the%20automatic%20measurement,such%20as%20temperature%20and%20pressure." target="_blank">Telemetry</a></li><li>[21:35] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://chat.openai.com/" target="_blank">ChatGPT</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Altman" target="_blank">Sam Altman</a></li><li>[22:28] How does Solsten work</li><li>[23:06] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/demographics.asp" target="_blank">Demographics</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.ozzy.com/" target="_blank">Ozzy Osbourne</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.royal.uk/the-king" target="_blank">King Charles</a></li><li>[23:34] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2019/01/17/where-millennials-end-and-generation-z-begins/" target="_blank">Gen Z</a> (Generation Z), <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2019/01/17/where-millennials-end-and-generation-z-begins/" target="_blank">Millennials</a></li><li>[24:03] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.google.com/" target="_blank">Google</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maps.google.com/" target="_blank">Google Maps</a></li><li>[24:38] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.nhs.uk/mental-health/conditions/social-anxiety/#:~:text=Social%20anxiety%20disorder%2C%20also%20called,better%20as%20they%20get%20older." target="_blank">Social Anxiety</a></li><li>[25:13] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.ibm.com/topics/push-notifications#:~:text=A%20push%20notification%20is%20a,to%20take%20a%20specific%20action." target="_blank">Push Notification</a></li><li>[26:03] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">Podcasts</a></li></ul><ul><li>[26:27] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us.html" target="_blank">McDonald&#8217;s</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://guide.michelin.com/us/en/article/features/what-is-a-michelin-star" target="_blank">Michelin Star</a></li><li>[26:48] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://solsten.io/navigator" target="_blank">Navigator</a></li><li>[26:52] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.nfl.com/" target="_blank">NFL</a> (National Football League)</li><li>[27:17] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://solsten.io/traits" target="_blank">Traits</a></li><li>[27:29] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.netflix.com/" target="_blank">Netflix</a>, <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2294629/" target="_blank">Frozen</a></em>, <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4520988/" target="_blank">Frozen II</a></em></li><li>[28:00] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.disneyplus.com/" target="_blank">Disney+</a></li><li>[28:22] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://aws.amazon.com/what-is/api/#:~:text=API%20stands%20for%20Application%20Programming,other%20using%20requests%20and%20responses." target="_blank">API</a> (Application Programming Interface)</li><li>[28:32] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://blog.hubspot.com/insiders/marketing-psychographics" target="_blank">Psychographics</a></li><li>[28:48] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting</a></li><li>[28:58] &#8220;<a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/max-branstetter-save-time-with-your-podcast/id1484382840?i=1000473488255" target="_blank">Max Branstetter – Save Time with Your Podcast</a>&#8221; on <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://ryan.online/" target="_blank">The 3-1-3 Challenge with Ryan Foland</a></em></li><li>[31:03] Such an honor speaking at Podcast Movement &#8217;23 in Denver! Sign up to grab the slides from my session at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/PM23/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/PM23</a></li></ul><ul><li>[31:05] Sign up for the <em>Podcasting to the Max</em> newsletter at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/newsletter/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/Newsletter</a> and receive <em>How to Edit Your Podcast in Audacity</em></li></ul></li><li><strong>Solsten Case Studies</strong><ul><li>[32:02] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0133093/" target="_blank">The Matrix</a></em></li><li>[32:10] What are the most interesting insights to come out of Joe&#8217;s research &amp; work</li><li>[33:55] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://supercell.com/" target="_blank">Supercell</a>, <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://hayday.com/" target="_blank">Hay Day</a></em>, <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.eveonline.com/" target="_blank">EVE Online</a></em></li><li>[34:11] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/k/kpi.asp#:~:text=Key%20performance%20indicators%20(KPIs)%20refer,businesses%20within%20the%20same%20sector." target="_blank">KPIs</a> (Key Performance Indicators)</li><li>[34:15] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.onepeloton.com/" target="_blank">Peloton</a></li><li>[36:01] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/v/valueproposition.asp#:~:text=A%20value%20proposition%20in%20marketing,appeared%20in%20a%20McKinsey%20%26%20Co." target="_blank">Value Proposition</a> (Value Prop)</li><li>[36:09] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://mythicalgames.com/" target="_blank">Mythical Games</a>, <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://nfl.rivals.game/" target="_blank">NFL Rivals</a></em></li><li>[37:07] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/news/what-makes-a-aaa-game-a-aaa-game" target="_blank">AAA Game</a></li><li>[37:30] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2017-22344-007#:~:text=Abstract,explains%20ingroup%20favoritism%20in%20cooperation." target="_blank">Bounded Reciprocity</a></li><li>[38:23] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.britannica.com/technology/Internet" target="_blank">Internet</a></li><li>[38:42] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.espn.com/nfl/coaches" target="_blank">Head Coach</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.profootballnetwork.com/current-nfl-general-managers/" target="_blank">GM</a> (General Manager)</li></ul></li></ul>



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<ul><li><strong>Rapid-Fire Q&amp;A</strong><ul><li>[38:58] What a segue</li><li>[39:27] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.redbull.com/se-en/videos/bec-des-rosses-routes-freeride-world-tour" target="_blank">Bec des Rosses</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.freerideworldtour.com/" target="_blank">Freeride World Tour</a> (FWT)</li><li>[39:49] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://zelda.nintendo.com/breath-of-the-wild/" target="_blank">The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild</a></em></li><li>[40:08] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.myswitzerland.com/en-us/destinations/lauterbrunnen/" target="_blank">Lauterbrunnen</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://wengen.swiss/en/summer/" target="_blank">Wengen</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.myswitzerland.com/en/destinations/stechelberg/" target="_blank">Stechelberg</a></li><li>[40:32] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.google.com/search?q=Switzerland&amp;tbm=isch&amp;ved=2ahUKEwjHpsu0gtODAxWyDWIAHZMpCLMQ2-cCegQIABAA&amp;oq=Switzerland&amp;gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQAzIECCMQJzIKCAAQgAQQigUQQzINCAAQgAQQigUQQxCxAzIKCAAQgAQQigUQQzIKCAAQgAQQigUQQzINCAAQgAQQigUQQxCxAzIKCAAQgAQQigUQQzINCAAQgAQQigUQQxCxAzINCAAQgAQQigUQQxCxAzIKCAAQgAQQigUQQ1DcBVioDGDyDmgAcAB4AYABdogBuQaSAQQxMi4xmAEAoAEBqgELZ3dzLXdpei1pbWfAAQE&amp;sclient=img&amp;ei=-aeeZYfGDrKbiLMPk9OgmAs&amp;bih=940&amp;biw=1707" target="_blank">Google Image: Switzerland</a></li><li>[40:48] What would be Joe&#8217;s dream adventure</li><li>[42:10] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://preply.com/en/question/plural-of-universe#:~:text=The%20plural%20of%20universe%20is%20universes." target="_blank">Plural: Universes</a></li></ul><ul><li>[42:47] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://iep.utm.edu/theomind/" target="_blank">Theory of Mind</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://home.cern/" target="_blank">CERN</a></li><li>[43:03] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.space.com/17594-string-theory.html" target="_blank">String Theory</a></li><li>[43:11] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Jung" target="_blank">Carl Jung</a></li><li>[43:49] Connect with Joe at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://solsten.io/" target="_blank">Solsten.io</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://wellbeing.solsten.io/" target="_blank">WellBeing.Solsten.io</a>, and on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/schaeppi" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a></li><li>[44:21] <em><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Personality-Brokers-Strange-History-Myers-Briggs/dp/0385541902" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Personality Brokers</a></em> by Merve Emre</li></ul><ul><li>[44:53] What are Joe&#8217;s Final Thoughts</li><li>[45:40] Follow the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em></a> and tell a friend about the podcast. And show love (or roast me) by leaving 5 stars on Apple Podcasts and/or Spotify</li></ul><ul><li>[46:00] Check out the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast </em>on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.goodpods.com/" target="_blank">Goodpods</a>, where you can see what your favorite people are listening to</li><li>[46:04] Connect with me on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/maxbranstetter/" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Twitter</a> (aka <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/maxbranstetter" target="_blank">X</a>), and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/max-branstetter-74150a57/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a> @MaxBranstetter</li><li>[46:07] Save time with your high-quality podcast. Email me at <a href="mailto:&#109;&#97;&#120;&#64;ma&#120;podc&#97;s&#116;in&#103;&#46;co&#109;">&#109;ax&#64;&#109;&#97;xp&#111;d&#99;&#97;&#115;&#116;&#105;&#110;g&#46;&#99;&#111;m</a> to bring your podcast to life and use it as a business-building tool</li><li>[46:11] Sign up for the <em>Podcasting to the Max</em> newsletter at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/newsletter/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/Newsletter</a> and receive <em>How to Edit Your Podcast in Audacity</em></li><li>Theme music: Freestyle Percussion Magik &#8211; &#8220;Jungle Tribe&#8221; &#8211; provided by Jamendo</li></ul></li></ul>



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<h2 id="podcast-summary"><strong>What is the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em>?</strong></h2>



<p>Wild ideas. Wild growth. Every Wednesday morning a new entrepreneur joins the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em> to share the wildly creative and unusual ways they grew their business &#8211; and teaches you how to do it, too. Hear the minds behind WordPress, Stacy&#8217;s Pita Chips, Drybar, NFL RedZone, Big Mouth Billy Bass, the voice of Bart Simpson, and more Wild stories. Hosted by <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/about/" target="_blank">Max Branstetter</a> (that&#8217;s me), Founder and Podcast Producer at MaxPodcasting.</p>



<h2><strong>How do you start a podcast?</strong></h2>



<p>Interested in starting a professional-sounding podcast for your brand, but don&#8217;t want to deal with the time commitment of all those behind-the-scenes details? I’ve got you covered. Email me at <a href="mailto:&#109;&#97;&#120;&#64;&#109;a&#120;p&#111;&#100;&#99;as&#116;in&#103;&#46;c&#111;&#109;">&#109;a&#120;&#64;ma&#120;p&#111;&#100;&#99;&#97;sti&#110;g.&#99;o&#109;</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool.</p>



<p>Thanks for listening to Joe Schaeppi on the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em>.<em> </em>To hear more Wild stories like this one every Wednesday morning, follow the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em></a> and tell a friend about it. And discuss your theories of the universe together. Until next time, Let your business Run Wild&#8230;and <strong><em>Bring on the Bongos!!</em></strong></p>
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		<title>David Perry &#8211; Wild Business Growth Podcast #185: Video Game Voyager, Co-Founder of Carro &#038; Gaikai</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2022 09:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[David Perry, the Co-Founder of Carro and video game industry legend, joins the Wild Business Growth Podcast to share his journey from developing video games to selling his cloud gaming service to Sony and revolutionizing how brands partner with influencers.]]></description>
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<p class="has-drop-cap">Skill, risk, and strategy. That&#8217;s what you need to keep people engaged &#8211; in video games and in business. This week&#8217;s <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">Wild Business Growth Podcast</a></em> guest, David Perry, has excelled in both of those worlds. David is the Co-Founder of Carro and a video game industry legend. Listen to the episode on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wild-business-growth-podcast/id1422144338?mt=2" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6mSUsqYobBljhKIuK9sKJV" target="_blank">Spotify</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://podcasts.google.com/?feed=aHR0cDovL3dpbGRidXNpbmVzc2dyb3d0aHBvZGNhc3QubGlic3luLmNvbS9yc3M%3D" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a>, and your other favorite <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">podcast platforms</a>.</p>



<ul><li><a href="#episode-summary">Episode Summary &amp; Player</a></li><li><a href="#show-notes">Show Notes</a></li><li><a href="#podcast-summary"><em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em> Summary</a></li></ul>



<h2 id="episode-summary">Episode 185: David Perry – Video Game Voyager, Co-Founder of Carro &amp; Gaikai</h2>



<p>David Perry, the Co-Founder of Carro and video game industry legend, joins the show to share his journey from developing video games to selling his cloud gaming service to Sony and revolutionizing how brands partner with influencers. Hear how to make your&nbsp;business attractive to big players, find inspiration from other markets, the right influencers to market your brand, David’s craziest skydiving story, and the time he visited Michael Jackson at Neverland. This episode covers everything from video game design to jumping out of an airplane. Here&#8217;s a small sample of what you will hear in this episode:</p>



<ul><li>What is the most difficult part of designing video games</li><li>How do you pronounce Gaikai</li><li>What made Gaikai attractive to Sony</li><li>The Bizarro Spaghetti / Spaghetti 2: The Sequel</li><li>What was David&#8217;s reaction when he found out Sony was acquiring his company</li><li>Something shocking about skydiving</li><li>What is Carro</li><li>The Weird Wild Woodworking Award goes to David!</li></ul>



<p>Connect with David on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dperry" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a> and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://getcarro.com/" target="_blank">GetCarro.com</a>.</p>



<p>Enjoy the shoooooow! Check out the show notes below for much more detail.</p>



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<h2 id="show-notes"><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2>



<ul><li><strong>Intro &amp; Designing Video Games</strong><ul><li>[0:29] Email me at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="mailto:m&#97;&#120;&#64;hi&#112;&#112;&#111;di&#114;&#101;&#99;&#116;&#46;&#99;om" target="_blank">&#109;a&#120;&#64;&#109;ax&#112;od&#99;a&#115;&#116;i&#110;&#103;&#46;&#99;&#111;m</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool</li><li>[0:42] Connect with David on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dperry" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a> and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://getcarro.com/" target="_blank">GetCarro.com</a></li><li>[2:31] Gotcha!</li><li>[2:54] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthworm_Jim" target="_blank">Earthworm Jim</a></em></li><li>[3:02] What is the most difficult part of designing video games</li><li>[3:30] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.entrepreneur.com/encyclopedia/licensing" target="_blank">Licensing</a></li><li>[4:06] How do you learn to design video games</li><li>[4:15] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.britannica.com/place/Belfast" target="_blank">Belfast, Northern Ireland</a></li><li>[4:17] A little &#8220;accent&#8221; teaser</li><li>[5:00] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.ebay.com/b/Sinclair-ZX81-Vintage-Computers-Mainframes/162075/bn_114564128" target="_blank">Sinclair ZX81</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.ebay.com/b/Timex-Sinclair/162075/bn_7023250847" target="_blank">Timex 1000</a></li><li>[5:27] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.amazon.com/David-Perry-Game-Design-Brainstorming/dp/1584506687" target="_blank">David Perry on Game Design: A Brainstorming ToolBox</a></em> by David Perry &amp; Rusel DeMaria</li><li>[7:16] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://tetris.com/play-tetris" target="_blank">Tetris</a></em></li><li>[9:07] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://james-camerons-avatar.fandom.com/wiki/Pandora" target="_blank">Pandora from <em>Avatar</em></a></li><li>[9:17] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000116/" target="_blank">James Cameron</a></li><li>[9:22] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Terminator_video_games" target="_blank"><em>The Terminator</em> Game</a></li><li>[10:06] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avatar_2" target="_blank"><em>Avatar</em> Sequels</a></li><li>[10:31] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.starwars.com/" target="_blank">Star Wars</a></em>, <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.wizardingworld.com/" target="_blank">Harry Potter</a></em></li></ul></li><li><strong>The Gaikai Story</strong><ul><li>[11:16] How do you pronounce <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaikai" target="_blank">Gaikai</a></li><li>[11:43] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.ama.org/the-definition-of-marketing-what-is-marketing/" target="_blank">Marketing</a></li><li>[12:19] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.quora.com/What-does-marketing-mystique-mean-exactly-in-this-context" target="_blank">Mystique Marketing</a></li><li>[12:28] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.versace.com/us/en-us/home/" target="_blank">Versace</a></li><li>[13:30] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.britannica.com/technology/technology" target="_blank">Technology</a> (Tech)</li><li>[13:44] Completely true</li><li>[14:02] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.visitcalifornia.com/places-to-visit/silicon-valley/" target="_blank">Silicon Valley</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/startup.asp" target="_blank">Startup</a></li><li>[14:21] I now know how to pronounce <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chianti" target="_blank">Chianti</a></li><li>[14:51] How did David get into the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.playstation.com/en-us/ps-now/" target="_blank">cloud gaming</a> space</li><li>[15:01] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acclaim_Entertainment" target="_blank">Acclaim</a>, <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_Jam" target="_blank">NBA Jam</a></em></li><li>[16:03] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KOTRA" target="_blank">KOTRA</a> (Korea Trade-Investment Promotion Agency)</li><li>[16:18] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/ceo.asp" target="_blank">CEO</a> (Chief Executive Officer)</li><li>[20:36] You&#8217;re good, David!</li><li>[21:29] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/end-of-life.html" target="_blank">Flash</a></li><li>[21:35] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://farmville3.com/" target="_blank">FarmVille</a></li><li>[21:45] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="http://xanga.com/" target="_blank">Xanga</a></li><li>[21:49] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.tiktok.com/tag/farmville?lang=en" target="_blank">FarmVille TikTok</a></li><li>[22:30] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.dicesummit.org/" target="_blank">D.I.C.E. Summit</a></li><li>[22:51] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6mSUsqYobBljhKIuK9sKJV?si=8ea6e574f32b4434" target="_blank">Digital Music</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6mSUsqYobBljhKIuK9sKJV?si=8ea6e574f32b4434" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li><li>[23:25] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://mariokart8.nintendo.com/" target="_blank">Mario Kart</a></em></li><li>[23:55] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.facebook.com/" target="_blank">Facebook</a>, <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.crysis.com/" target="_blank">Crysis</a></em>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li>[24:22] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.playstation.com/en-us/ps-now/" target="_blank">PlayStation</a></li><li>[24:34] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_reality" target="_blank">Virtual Reality</a> (VR), <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.oculus.com/" target="_blank">Oculus</a></li><li>[25:05] What is <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://beatsaber.com/" target="_blank">Beat Saber</a></em></li><li>[25:46] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.callofduty.com/" target="_blank">Call of Duty</a> (COD)</em></li><li>[26:02] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.playstation.com/en-us/ps5/" target="_blank">PlayStation 5</a> (PS5), <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_NuEQ-n60I" target="_blank">PlayStation 8</a> (PS8), <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyPQVsdCuRk" target="_blank">PlayStation 9</a> (PS9)</li><li>[26:24] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.ponggame.org/" target="_blank">Pong</a></li><li>[27:11] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.flightsimulator.com/" target="_blank">Flight Simulator</a></li><li>[27:23] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://stadia.google.com/" target="_blank">Stadia</a></li><li>[27:28] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jade_Raymond" target="_blank">Jade Raymond</a></li><li>[28:30] What made Gaikai attractive to <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.sony.com/" target="_blank">Sony</a></li><li>[28:45] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://youtu.be/mfv_hOFT1S4" target="_blank">Keynote Speeches</a></li><li>[30:07] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://blog.hootsuite.com/reach-vs-impressions/#:~:text=Reach%20refers%20to%20the%20total,been%20displayed%20on%20a%20screen." target="_blank">Reach</a></li><li>[30:16] Sorry, Stadia!</li><li>[30:25] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Harrison" target="_blank">Phil Harrison</a></li><li>[30:34] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/" target="_blank">YouTube</a></li><li>[31:03] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.walmart.com/" target="_blank">Walmart</a></li><li>[31:42] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.socialmediaexaminer.com/" target="_blank">Social Media</a></li><li>[32:36] What was David&#8217;s reaction when he found out Sony was acquiring his company</li><li>[34:16] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.bankofamerica.com/deposits/wire-transfers-faqs/" target="_blank">Wire</a></li><li>[34:37] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0133093/" target="_blank">The Matrix</a></em></li><li>[35:13] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Office-Products-Fax-Machines/zgbs/office-products/172582" target="_blank">Fax Machine</a> (whaaaaaat)</li><li>[35:48] Take that back, David!</li><li>[36:11] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">Podcast</a></li><li>[37:29] Save time with your high-quality podcast. Email me at <a href="mailto:&#109;&#97;&#120;&#64;max&#112;od&#99;a&#115;t&#105;n&#103;&#46;&#99;o&#109;">&#109;&#97;&#120;&#64;&#109;ax&#112;&#111;dca&#115;&#116;&#105;&#110;&#103;.c&#111;&#109;</a> to bring your podcast to life and use it as a business-building tool</li></ul></li></ul>



<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-large"><img loading="lazy" width="1024" height="730" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/IMG_7746-1024x730.jpg" alt="David Perry - Wild Business Growth Podcast #185: Video Game Voyager, Co-Founder of Carro &amp; Gaikai" class="wp-image-5447" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/IMG_7746-1024x730.jpg 1024w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/IMG_7746-400x285.jpg 400w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/IMG_7746-768x548.jpg 768w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/IMG_7746-500x356.jpg 500w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/IMG_7746-400x285@2x.jpg 800w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/IMG_7746-1280x913.jpg 1280w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/IMG_7746-1920x1369.jpg 1920w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/IMG_7746-768x548@2x.jpg 1536w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/IMG_7746-1024x730@2x.jpg 2048w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/IMG_7746-500x356@2x.jpg 1000w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/IMG_7746-800x570@2x.jpg 1600w" sizes="(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px" /><figcaption>Hi Gaikai, Hello Carro</figcaption></figure></div>



<ul id="block-e2455cfc-8974-4c8c-9460-307439cd97ee"><li><strong>The Carro Story</strong><ul><li>[38:39] What is <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://getcarro.com/" target="_blank">Carro</a></li><li>[38:48] No, thank <em>you</em></li><li>[39:02] What got David interested in <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://getcarro.com/" target="_blank">influencers</a> in the first place</li><li>[40:18] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.bobvila.com/articles/how-to-varnish-wood/" target="_blank">Varnish</a></li><li>[42:07] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://developers.facebook.com/products/instagram/success-stories/carro/" target="_blank">Facebook Success Story</a></li><li>[42:29] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/?hl=en" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li><li>[42:42] Check out <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://getcarro.com/" target="_blank">GetCarro.com</a></li><li>[42:53] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.shopify.com/" target="_blank">Shopify</a></li><li>[43:16] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://kpi.org/KPI-Basics" target="_blank">KPIs</a> (Key Performance Indicators)</li><li>[43:32] Guilty</li><li>[43:53] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.google.com/" target="_blank">Google</a></li><li>[44:12] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://contentmarketinginstitute.com/what-is-content-marketing/" target="_blank">Content</a></li><li>[45:19] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0697657/" target="_blank">The Bizarro Spaghetti</a> / Spaghetti 2: The Sequel</li><li>[45:46] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://getcarro.com/" target="_blank">Website</a></li><li>[46:19] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.amazon.com/" target="_blank">Amazon</a></li><li>[47:21] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://getcarro.com/" target="_blank">Carro</a></li><li>[48:07] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.etsy.com/" target="_blank">Etsy</a></li><li>[48:13] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.uber.com/" target="_blank">Uber</a></li><li>[48:30] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.airbnb.com/" target="_blank">Airbnb</a></li><li>[48:47] Sign me up</li><li>[49:22] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.bigcommerce.com/blog/affiliate-marketing/" target="_blank">Affiliate Marketing</a></li><li>[50:00] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.bestbuy.com/site/electric-transportation/electric-bikes-biking-gear/pcmcat250300050009.c?id=pcmcat250300050009" target="_blank">eBike</a></li><li>[50:51] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/customer.asp" target="_blank">Customers</a></li><li>[50:58] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.outbrain.com/blog/remarketing-guide/" target="_blank">Remarketing</a></li><li>[51:15] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.unitedtalent.com/" target="_blank">United Talent Agency</a> (UTA)</li><li>[51:24] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/kimkardashian/?hl=en" target="_blank">Kim Kardashian</a></li><li>[51:47] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.ssa.gov/benefits/retirement/" target="_blank">Retirement</a> (or not)</li></ul></li><li><strong>Wild Business Shoutout of the Week</strong><ul><li>[52:12] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.bannerflow.com/blog/the-5-step-guide-to-creative-marketing/#:~:text=Creative%20marketing%20is%20the%20act,connecting%20with%20the%20audience's%20emotions." target="_blank">Creative Marketing</a></li><li>[52:26] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disney%27s_Aladdin_(Virgin_Games_video_game)" target="_blank"><em>Aladdin</em> Video Game</a></li><li>[53:18] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://disney.fandom.com/wiki/Genie" target="_blank">Genie</a></li><li>[53:34] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Press" target="_blank">Press</a></li><li>[53:40] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.disney.com/" target="_blank">Disney</a></li><li>[53:56] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005076/" target="_blank">Jeffrey Katzenberg</a>, <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110357/" target="_blank">The Lion King</a></em></li><li>[54:07] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.virgin.com/branson-family/richard-branson-blog" target="_blank">Richard Branson</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.virgin.com/" target="_blank">Virgin</a></li><li>[54:46] That&#8217;s the easiest way probably</li><li>[55:02] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.sega.com/" target="_blank">SEGA</a></li><li>[55:38] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enter_the_Matrix" target="_blank"><em>The Matrix</em> Game</a></li><li>[55:50] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.tiesto.com/" target="_blank">Tiësto</a></li><li>[56:58] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Jackson" target="_blank">Michael Jackson</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neverland_Ranch" target="_blank">Neverland</a></li><li>[58:02] Now that&#8217;s compatible</li></ul></li><li><strong>Rapid-Fire Q&amp;A</strong><ul><li>[58:32] How do you lose your accent</li><li>[58:52] Shoutout GB!</li><li>[59:21] What&#8217;s something shocking about skydiving</li><li>[1:00:29] Sheeeeeesh</li><li>[1:01:26] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.ebay.com/itm/123739938066" target="_blank">Yoda on Luke Skywalker&#8217;s Back</a></li><li>[1:02:25] &#8220;<a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY0WxgSXdEE" target="_blank">Another One Bites the Dust</a>&#8221; by Queen</li><li>[1:02:30] What&#8217;s an <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altimeter" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">altimeter</a></li><li>[1:03:13] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaquille_O%27Neal" target="_blank">Shaq</a> (my skydiving partner)</li><li>[1:03:22] What&#8217;s a quirk David has</li><li>[1:04:13] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.sammaloofwoodworker.com/" target="_blank">Maloof Rocking Chair</a></li><li>[1:06:33] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/" target="_blank">Podcasting</a></li><li>[1:07:04] The Weird Wild Woodworking Award goes to David!</li><li>[1:07:33] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.shure.com/en-MEA/products/microphones/sm7b" target="_blank">SM7B</a></li><li>[1:08:45] What was David&#8217;s favorite moment from visiting Michael Jackson &amp; Neverland</li><li>[1:10:32] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Jackson%27s_Moonwalker" target="_blank"><em>Michael Jackson Moonwalker </em>Video Game</a></li><li>[1:10:57] <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playboy_Mansion" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Playboy Mansion</a></li><li>[1:11:07] What video game did Michael Jackson want to be the first to play</li><li>[1:11:49] Connect with David on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dperry" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a> and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://getcarro.com/" target="_blank">GetCarro.com</a></li><li>[1:12:12] Email <a href="mailto:H&#101;llo&#64;&#71;e&#116;Ca&#114;&#114;&#111;.&#99;om">Hell&#111;&#64;&#71;etCar&#114;o.&#99;om</a> if you have a Shopify store</li></ul><ul><li>[1:12:37] What are David&#8217;s Final Thoughts</li></ul><ul><li>[1:13:15] Follow the <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">Wild Business Growth Podcast</a></em> and tell a friend about the podcast. And 5 stars on Apple Podcasts &amp; Spotify if you&#8217;re feeling super nice</li></ul><ul><li>[1:13:31] Check out the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast </em>on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.goodpods.com/" target="_blank">GoodPods</a>, where you can see what your favorite people are listening to</li><li>[1:13:32] Connect with me on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/maxbranstetter/" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/max-branstetter-74150a57/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a> @MaxBranstetter</li><li>[1:13:34] Save time with your high-quality podcast. Email me at <a href="mailto:m&#97;x&#64;&#109;a&#120;&#112;o&#100;&#99;&#97;st&#105;&#110;g.c&#111;m">&#109;&#97;x&#64;ma&#120;&#112;&#111;&#100;&#99;a&#115;t&#105;n&#103;&#46;c&#111;m</a> to bring your podcast to life and use it as a business-building tool</li><li>Theme music: Freestyle Percussion Magik &#8211; &#8220;Jungle Tribe&#8221; &#8211; provided by Jamendo</li></ul></li></ul>



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<h2 id="podcast-summary"><strong>What is the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em>?</strong></h2>



<p>Wild ideas. Wild growth. Every Wednesday morning a new entrepreneur joins the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em> to share the wildly creative and unusual ways they grew their business &#8211; and teaches you how to do it, too. Hear the minds behind WordPress, Stacy&#8217;s Pita Chips, Drybar, the voice of Bart Simpson, and more wild stories. Hosted by <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/about/" target="_blank">Max Branstetter</a> (that&#8217;s me), Founder and Podcast Producer at MaxPodcasting.</p>



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<p>Interested in starting a professional-sounding podcast for your brand, but don&#8217;t want to deal with the time commitment of all those behind-the-scenes details? I’ve got you covered. Email me at <a href="mailto:max&#64;&#109;&#97;xp&#111;&#100;cas&#116;i&#110;&#103;.c&#111;m">m&#97;x&#64;ma&#120;&#112;o&#100;&#99;ast&#105;n&#103;.&#99;om</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool.</p>



<p>Thanks for listening to David Perry on the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast. </em>To hear more Wild stories like this one every Wednesday morning, follow the <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">Wild Business Growth Podcast</a></em> and tell a friend about it. Then, go to a woodworking conference in Iowa with them. Until next time, Let your business Run Wild&#8230;and <em><strong>Bring on the Bongos!!</strong></em></p>
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