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<p>How many countries would you like to visit in your lifetime? This week&#8217;s <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em></a> guest, Thor Pedersen, traveled to every country in the world in less than 10 years &#8211; without flying. Thor is the Creator of Once Upon a Saga. Listen to the episode on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wild-business-growth-podcast/id1422144338?mt=2" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6mSUsqYobBljhKIuK9sKJV" target="_blank">Spotify</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPJ7ovuCpHVg7SJchnF2BZg" target="_blank">YouTube</a>, and your other favorite <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">podcast platforms</a>.</p>



<ul><li><a href="#episode-summary">Episode Summary &amp; Player</a></li><li><a href="#full-transcript">Full Transcript</a></li><li><a href="#show-notes">Show Notes</a></li><li><a href="#podcast-summary"><em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em> Summary</a></li></ul>



<h2 id="episode-summary">Episode 256: Thor Pedersen – Every Country Without Flying, Once Upon a Saga</h2>



<p>Thor Pedersen, Creator of Once Upon a Saga, joins the show to share his journey becoming the first person to travel to every country in the world without flying. Hear how to pack efficiently, whether you get seasick on container ships, the times Thor’s life was at risk, the biggest way his travels have changed him, and globe-trotting questions from Wild Listeners. This episode covers everything from double-decker buses to Cerebral Malaria. Here&#8217;s a small sample of what you will hear in this episode:</p>



<ul><li>How do you get over travel fatigue</li><li>Where did the idea for Once Upon a Saga come from</li><li>What kind of suitcases did Thor take on his journey</li><li>How did he decide which countries to visit first</li><li>What&#8217;s his favorite form of transportation</li><li>How did his long-distance marriage work during his journey</li><li>What would he do if he started his journey over again</li><li>Which country had the best food</li></ul>



<p>Connect with Thor at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://thorpedersen.dk/" target="_blank">ThorPedersen.DK</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.onceuponasaga.dk/" target="_blank">OnceUponASaga.DK</a>, and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/onceuponasaga/" target="_blank">social media</a> @OnceUponASaga.</p>



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<p>Enjoy the shoooooow! Check out the show notes below for much more detail. You can also find the full transcript <a href="https://maxpodcasting.com/thor-pedersen-transcript/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">here</a>.</p>



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<h2 id="show-notes"><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2>



<ul><li><strong>Intro &amp; Jet Lag</strong><ul><li>[0:31] Email me at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="mailto:max&#64;&#104;&#105;p&#112;odir&#101;&#99;t&#46;&#99;o&#109;" target="_blank">&#109;ax&#64;maxpodc&#97;&#115;tin&#103;.co&#109;</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool</li><li>[0:41] Connect with Thor at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://thorpedersen.dk/" target="_blank">ThorPedersen.DK</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.onceuponasaga.dk/" target="_blank">OnceUponASaga.DK</a>, and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/onceuponasaga/" target="_blank">social media</a> @OnceUponASaga</li></ul><ul><li>[1:54] Voice crack out of the gate</li><li>[2:35] Same!</li><li>[2:52] How exhausted is Thor</li><li>[3:42] Is there long-term <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/jet-lag/symptoms-causes/syc-20374027" target="_blank">jet lag</a> from extended travel</li><li>[4:48] How do you get over <a href="https://sleepdoctor.com/features/how-many-of-us-get-travel-fatigue/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">travel fatigue</a></li></ul></li></ul>



<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-large is-resized"><img loading="lazy" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Thor-Pedersen-Once-Upon-a-Saga-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-256-Every-Country-Without-Flying-Once-Upon-a-Saga-1024x538.png" alt="Thor Pedersen - Wild Business Growth Podcast #256: Every Country Without Flying, Once Upon a Saga" class="wp-image-7784" width="693" height="364" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Thor-Pedersen-Once-Upon-a-Saga-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-256-Every-Country-Without-Flying-Once-Upon-a-Saga-1024x538.png 1024w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Thor-Pedersen-Once-Upon-a-Saga-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-256-Every-Country-Without-Flying-Once-Upon-a-Saga-400x210.png 400w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Thor-Pedersen-Once-Upon-a-Saga-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-256-Every-Country-Without-Flying-Once-Upon-a-Saga-768x403.png 768w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Thor-Pedersen-Once-Upon-a-Saga-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-256-Every-Country-Without-Flying-Once-Upon-a-Saga-500x263.png 500w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Thor-Pedersen-Once-Upon-a-Saga-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-256-Every-Country-Without-Flying-Once-Upon-a-Saga-400x210@2x.png 800w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Thor-Pedersen-Once-Upon-a-Saga-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-256-Every-Country-Without-Flying-Once-Upon-a-Saga.png 1200w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Thor-Pedersen-Once-Upon-a-Saga-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-256-Every-Country-Without-Flying-Once-Upon-a-Saga-500x263@2x.png 1000w" sizes="(max-width: 693px) 100vw, 693px" /><figcaption>Thor should get out of the house for once</figcaption></figure></div>



<ul><li><strong>The Once Upon a Saga Story</strong><ul><li>[5:51] Where did the idea for <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.onceuponasaga.dk/" target="_blank">Once Upon a Saga</a> come from</li><li>[6:44] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.britannica.com/place/Mount-Everest" target="_blank">Mount Everest</a></li><li>[7:11] When did Thor get serious about traveling the world without flying</li><li>[7:51] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.budgetyourtrip.com/" target="_blank">Budget</a></li><li>[9:06] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.packers.com/" target="_blank">Green Bay Packers</a></li><li>[9:10] How do you <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.travelandleisure.com/travel-tips/how-to-roll-clothes-packing" target="_blank">pack efficiently</a></li><li>[10:12] Shoutout, Alex!</li><li>[10:24] What kind of suitcases did Thor take on his journey</li><li>[10:39] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.amazon.com/duffle-bag/s?k=duffle+bag" target="_blank">Duffle Bag</a></li><li>[11:37] How did Thor fund Once Upon a Saga</li><li>[12:52] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/debt.asp" target="_blank">Debt</a></li><li>[13:00] Couldn&#8217;t resist</li><li>[13:26] Ross Engineering aka <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://rossenergy.dk/" target="_blank">Ross Energy</a></li><li>[14:07] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/crowdfunding.asp" target="_blank">Crowdfunding</a></li><li>[14:50] How did Thor decide which countries to visit first</li><li>[15:33] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.socialmediaexaminer.com/" target="_blank">Social Media</a></li><li>[16:12] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/article/pacific-ocean" target="_blank">Pacific Ocean</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://denmark.dk/" target="_blank">Denmark</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.britannica.com/place/Atlantic-Ocean" target="_blank">Atlantic Ocean</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.britannica.com/place/Indian-Ocean" target="_blank">Indian Ocean</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.newzealand.com/us/" target="_blank">New Zealand</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://australia.com/" target="_blank">Australia</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.srilanka.travel/" target="_blank">Sri Lanka</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://visitmaldives.com/" target="_blank">Maldives</a></li><li>[18:23] Why was Thor stuck in <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.discoverhongkong.com/eng/index.html" target="_blank">Hong Kong</a> for 2 years</li><li>[19:04] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.britannica.com/place/Macau-administrative-region-China" target="_blank">Macau</a></li><li>[19:59] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murphy%27s_law" target="_blank">Murphy&#8217;s Law</a>: Anything that can go wrong will go wrong</li></ul><ul><li>[20:21] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_III" target="_blank">World War III</a> (WWIII)</li><li>[20:32] How many forms of transportation did Thor take</li><li>[21:14] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.toyota.com/corolla/" target="_blank">Toyota Corolla</a></li><li>[21:52] What&#8217;s Thor&#8217;s favorite form of transportation</li><li>[22:42] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.playstation.com/en-us/" target="_blank">PlayStation</a></li><li>[23:19] Do you get seasick on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Container_ship" target="_blank">container ships</a></li></ul><ul><li>[24:10] Such an honor speaking at Podcast Movement &#8217;23 in Denver! Sign up to grab the slides from my session at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/PM23/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/PM23</a></li></ul><ul><li>[24:12] Sign up for the <em>Podcasting to the Max</em> newsletter at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/newsletter/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/Newsletter</a> and receive <em>How to Edit Your Podcast in Audacity</em></li></ul></li><li><strong>Thor&#8217;s Thoughts on Once Upon a Saga</strong><ul><li>[25:16] How did Thor&#8217;s long-distance marriage work during his journey</li><li>[27:20] What would he do if he started his journey over again</li><li>[28:37] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIM_card" target="_blank">SIM Card</a></li><li>[28:49] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.icrc.org/en" target="_blank">Red Cross</a></li><li>[31:14] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi" target="_blank">Wi-Fi</a></li><li>[31:37] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.apple.com/ipad/" target="_blank">iPad</a></li><li>[32:54] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/tourism-visit/visa-waiver-program.html" target="_blank">Visas</a></li><li>[33:19] How long would Thor&#8217;s journey take if he did it today</li><li>[34:38] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.cbs.com/shows/amazing_race/" target="_blank">The Amazing Race</a></em>, <em>The Amazing Thor or Something</em></li><li>[34:49] When was Thor&#8217;s life at risk</li><li>[37:31] Sheesh</li><li>[38:14] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3396698/" target="_blank">Cerebral Malaria</a> </li></ul></li></ul>



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<ul><li><strong>Rapid-Fire Q&amp;A &#8211; Submitted by Wild Listeners</strong><ul><li>[39:38] Kristin O&#8217;Brien: Which country had the best food?</li><li>[40:05] Karim Khalil of <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://yazafoods.com/" target="_blank">Yaza</a>: Which country would you definitely want to go back to one day?</li><li>[40:50] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/angie-dee-cowger/" target="_blank">Angie Cowger</a> of <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://custardstand.com/" target="_blank">Custard Stand Chili</a>: Were you ever in a country you were afraid in?</li><li>[42:01] Brooke Qilafi &amp; Rob Mattson: What&#8217;s the #1 commonality or similarity across all people &amp; cultures?</li><li>[42:51] Cesar Romero: (Impossible Question) Which country is your favorite?</li><li>[43:47] My cousin Mel Taylor: What foreign language was the most helpful or do you wish you would&#8217;ve known?</li><li>[46:57] My cousin Amber Goddard: What&#8217;s your best memory from your journey?</li><li>[48:01] What&#8217;s the biggest way Once Upon a Saga has changed Thor?</li><li>[49:28] How did he celebrate accomplishing his journey?</li><li>[49:54] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.portofaarhus.dk/en/" target="_blank">Port of Aarhus</a></li><li>[50:16] &#8220;<a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyLjbMBpGDA" target="_blank">When The Saints Go Marching In</a>&#8221; by Louis Armstrong</li><li>[51:27] Connect with Thor at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://thorpedersen.dk/" target="_blank">ThorPedersen.DK</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.onceuponasaga.dk/" target="_blank">OnceUponASaga.DK</a>, and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/onceuponasaga/" target="_blank">social media</a> @OnceUponASaga</li></ul><ul><li>[52:26] What are Thor&#8217;s Final Thoughts</li><li>[52:35] Donate to the Red Cross at <a href="https://www.icrc.org/en" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">ICRC.org</a></li></ul><ul><li>[53:22] Follow the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em></a> and tell a friend about the podcast. And show love (or roast me) by leaving 5 stars on Apple Podcasts and/or Spotify</li><li>[53:44] Check out the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast </em>on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.goodpods.com/" target="_blank">Goodpods</a>, where you can see what your favorite people are listening to</li><li>[53:47] Connect with me on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/maxbranstetter/" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Twitter</a> (aka <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/maxbranstetter" target="_blank">X</a>), and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/max-branstetter-74150a57/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a> @MaxBranstetter</li><li>[53:51] Save time with your high-quality podcast. Email me at <a href="mailto:&#109;ax&#64;ma&#120;&#112;&#111;&#100;&#99;&#97;s&#116;in&#103;.&#99;o&#109;">&#109;&#97;x&#64;&#109;a&#120;&#112;&#111;dc&#97;&#115;ting&#46;&#99;&#111;&#109;</a> to bring your podcast to life and use it as a business-building tool</li><li>[53:58] Sign up for the <em>Podcasting to the Max</em> newsletter at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/newsletter/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/Newsletter</a> and receive <em>How to Edit Your Podcast in Audacity</em></li><li>Theme music: Freestyle Percussion Magik &#8211; &#8220;Jungle Tribe&#8221; &#8211; provided by Jamendo</li></ul></li></ul>



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<h2 id="podcast-summary"><strong>What is the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em>?</strong></h2>



<p>Wild ideas. Wild growth. Every Wednesday morning a new entrepreneur joins the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em> to share the wildly creative and unusual ways they grew their business &#8211; and teaches you how to do it, too. Hear the minds behind WordPress, Stacy&#8217;s Pita Chips, Drybar, NFL RedZone, Big Mouth Billy Bass, the voice of Bart Simpson, and more Wild stories. Hosted by <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/about/" target="_blank">Max Branstetter</a> (that&#8217;s me), Founder and Podcast Producer at MaxPodcasting.</p>



<h2><strong>How do you start a podcast?</strong></h2>



<p>Interested in starting a professional-sounding podcast for your brand, but don&#8217;t want to deal with the time commitment of all those behind-the-scenes details? I’ve got you covered. Email me at <a href="mailto:m&#97;x&#64;max&#112;&#111;&#100;&#99;a&#115;&#116;&#105;ng&#46;c&#111;&#109;">ma&#120;&#64;&#109;axpodc&#97;s&#116;&#105;n&#103;.c&#111;&#109;</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool.</p>



<p>Thanks for listening to Thor Pedersen on the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em>.<em> </em>To hear more Wild stories like this one every Wednesday morning, follow the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em></a> and tell a friend about it. And do good. Until next time, Let your business Run Wild&#8230;and <strong><em>Bring on the Bongos!!</em></strong></p>
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