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					<description><![CDATA[Kat Hantas, the Co-Founder and CEO of 21Seeds, joins the Wild Business Growth Podcast to share her journey from turning her homemade concoctions into the fast-growing brand of flavor-infused tequila that got acquired by Diageo.]]></description>
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<p class="has-drop-cap">Solve your own problems. You just might be solving a problem for a giant customer base, as well. That&#8217;s what happened for this week&#8217;s <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">Wild Business Growth Podcast</a></em> guest, Kat Hantas. Kat is the Co-Founder and CEO of 21Seeds. Listen to the episode on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wild-business-growth-podcast/id1422144338?mt=2" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6mSUsqYobBljhKIuK9sKJV" target="_blank">Spotify</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://podcasts.google.com/?feed=aHR0cDovL3dpbGRidXNpbmVzc2dyb3d0aHBvZGNhc3QubGlic3luLmNvbS9yc3M%3D" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a>, and your other favorite <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">podcast platforms</a>.</p>



<ul><li><a href="#episode-summary">Episode Summary &amp; Player</a></li><li><a href="#show-notes">Show Notes</a></li><li><a href="#podcast-summary"><em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em> Summary</a></li></ul>



<h2 id="episode-summary">Episode 196: Kat Hantas – Tequila Tastemaker, Co-Founder of 21Seeds</h2>



<p>Kat Hantas, the Co-Founder and CEO of 21Seeds, joins the show to share her journey from turning her homemade concoctions into the fast-growing brand of flavor-infused tequila that got acquired by Diageo. Hear how to take positive and negative feedback into account, find a production partner, win your first big customer, the coolest tequila adventures in Mexico, and what Kat learned working with comedians. This episode covers everything from agave to vampires. Here&#8217;s a small sample of what you will hear in this episode:</p>



<ul><li>Why was Kat told to stop drinking wine</li><li>How does the production side work</li><li>Chillbumps</li><li>How much tequila does 1 agave plant produce</li><li>21Seeds of Kevin Bacon</li><li>That gas station ramen!</li><li>Why has 21Seeds taken off so much</li><li>What&#8217;s Kat&#8217;s favorite food to pair with 21Seeds drinking</li></ul>



<p>Connect with Kat on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/21seeds/" target="_blank">Instagram</a> @21Seeds and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.21seeds.com/" target="_blank">21Seeds.com</a>.</p>



<p>Enjoy the shoooooow! Check out the show notes below for much more detail.</p>



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<h2 id="show-notes"><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2>



<ul><li><strong>Intro &amp; Tequila</strong><ul><li>[0:28] Email me at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="mailto:&#109;ax&#64;h&#105;p&#112;o&#100;ire&#99;&#116;&#46;c&#111;m" target="_blank">&#109;ax&#64;&#109;&#97;x&#112;o&#100;&#99;&#97;&#115;&#116;&#105;n&#103;&#46;&#99;o&#109;</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool</li><li>[0:45] Connect with Kat on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/21seeds/" target="_blank">Instagram</a> @21Seeds and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.21seeds.com/" target="_blank">21Seeds.com</a></li><li>[2:15] Didn&#8217;t see that coming did you </li><li>[2:47] Why was Kat told to stop drinking wine</li><li>[3:32] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.broadway.com/" target="_blank">Broadway Musical</a></li><li>[3:48] How did we get here so quick</li><li>[4:19] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.21seeds.com/" target="_blank">Blanco Tequila</a></li><li>[5:44] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=%23winning" target="_blank">#Winning</a></li><li>[5:50] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://blog.21seeds.com/cocktails/seed-soda/" target="_blank">Seed + Soda</a></li><li>[6:21] What was the name for that homemade tequila Kat made</li><li>[6:52] When did she decide to turn her tequila into a company</li><li>[9:36] And the rest is history</li></ul></li></ul>



<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-large"><img loading="lazy" width="1024" height="671" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/IMG_8531-1024x671.jpg" alt="Kat Hantas - Wild Business Growth Podcast #196: Tequila Tastemaker, Co-Founder of 21Seeds" class="wp-image-5764" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/IMG_8531-1024x671.jpg 1024w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/IMG_8531-400x262.jpg 400w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/IMG_8531-768x503.jpg 768w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/IMG_8531-500x327.jpg 500w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/IMG_8531-400x262@2x.jpg 800w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/IMG_8531-1280x838.jpg 1280w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/IMG_8531-1920x1257.jpg 1920w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/IMG_8531-768x503@2x.jpg 1536w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/IMG_8531-1024x671@2x.jpg 2048w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/IMG_8531-500x327@2x.jpg 1000w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/IMG_8531-800x524@2x.jpg 1600w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/IMG_8531-1280x838@2x.jpg 2560w" sizes="(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px" /><figcaption>Kat being attacked by a tequila vampire</figcaption></figure></div>



<ul id="block-e2455cfc-8974-4c8c-9460-307439cd97ee"><li><strong>The 21Seeds Story</strong><ul><li>[9:57] What was the big first hurdle Kat and team tackled when launching</li><li>[10:15] Knew it!</li><li>[10:38] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.diageo.com/" target="_blank">Diageo</a></li><li>[12:35] What&#8217;s something a naysayer said that was helpful</li><li>[12:47] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.21seeds.com/" target="_blank">20Seeds</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monster_Cereals" target="_blank">Count Chocula</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fjEViOF4JE" target="_blank">The Kool-Aid Man</a> (Oh yeah!)</li><li>[14:06] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.bevmo.com/shop/spirits/tequila/21_seeds_blanco_tequila_grapefruit_hibiscus_750_ml/p/1564405684704618348" target="_blank">BevMo!</a></li><li>[14:33] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transylvania" target="_blank">Transylvania</a></li><li>[14:40] Stop it, Max</li><li>[15:06] How did Kat and team find a tequila distillery partner</li><li>[15:13] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jalisco" target="_blank">Jalisco, Mexico</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champagne_wine_region" target="_blank">Champagne</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognac" target="_blank">Cognac</a></li><li>[16:07] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.whiskyadvocate.com/chill-filtered-whisky-101/" target="_blank">Chill Filtration</a> (Chill Fill)</li><li>[16:25] Knew it</li><li>[18:59] How does the production side work</li><li>[19:08] Magical</li><li>[19:15] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.visitmexico.com/en/jalisco/tequila" target="_blank">Tequila, Mexico</a></li><li>[19:32] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://disneyland.disney.go.com/" target="_blank">Disneyland</a></li><li>[19:41] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.visitnapavalley.com/" target="_blank">Napa</a></li><li>[19:53] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXU_rPyT39c" target="_blank">Agave</a></li><li>[20:32 Maybe, maybe</li><li>[20:38] Chillbumps</li><li>[21:15] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.liquor.com/articles/agave-shortage/#:~:text=It%20takes%20a%20little%20more,about%20110%20pounds%20or%20more." target="_blank">How much tequila does 1 agave plant produce</a></li><li>[21:36] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8714904/" target="_blank">Narcos: Mexico</a></em></li><li>[22:22] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/cpg.asp" target="_blank">CPG</a> (Consumer Packaged Goods)</li><li>[22:27] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.smartkarrot.com/resources/blog/consumer-vs-customer/#:~:text=A%20customer%20is%20one%20who,direct%20relationship%20with%20the%20vendor." target="_blank">Customers vs. Consumers</a></li><li>[22:43] How did 21Seeds win their first big customers</li><li>[23:25] Sure!</li><li>[24:04] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.hippodirect.com/" target="_blank">Mailing List</a></li><li>[25:21] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.hobokennj.gov/" target="_blank">Hoboken, NJ</a></li><li>[25:34] Those are some <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mezcal_worm" target="_blank">drunk worms</a></li><li>[26:22] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.pinterest.com/" target="_blank">Pinterest</a></li><li>[27:02] By the book!</li><li>[27:15] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://oracleofbacon.org/" target="_blank">Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon</a></li><li>[27:59] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.ketelone.com/botanical/" target="_blank">Ketel Botanicals</a></li><li>[28:40] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.21seeds.com/infused-tequila" target="_blank">Valencia Orange</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.21seeds.com/infused-tequila" target="_blank">Cucumber Jalapeno</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.21seeds.com/infused-tequila" target="_blank">Grapefruit Hibiscus</a></li><li>[29:02] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://blog.hubspot.com/sales/purchase-order" target="_blank">PO</a> (Purchase Order)</li><li>[29:34] That gas station ramen!</li><li>[31:10] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.helpscout.com/blog/customer-feedback/" target="_blank">Feedback</a></li><li>[31:39] Wowwwwww</li><li>[32:16] Shoutout the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.21seeds.com/" target="_blank">Seed Squad</a>!</li><li>[33:02] Why has 21Seeds taken off so much</li><li>[34:10] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.gartner.com/en/sales/glossary/pain-points#:~:text=Pain%20points%20are%20specific%20problems,for%20forward%2Dthinking%20sales%20leaders." target="_blank">Pain Point</a></li><li>[34:47] Shoutout Foodie Frank!</li><li>[34:56] BANANAS</li><li>[35:08] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.verywellhealth.com/what-you-can-eat-on-a-full-liquid-diet-2507157" target="_blank">Liquid Diet</a></li><li>[37:22] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ready_to_drink#:~:text=Ready%20to%20drink%20(often%20known,fruit%20juices%20or%20soft%20drinks)." target="_blank">Ready-to-Drink</a> (RTD)</li><li>[39:09] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.casamigos.com/en-us" target="_blank">George Clooney</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.aviationgin.com/" target="_blank">Ryan Reynolds</a></li><li>[39:22] Clooney strikes again</li><li>[39:49] When did the opportunity with Diageo present itself</li><li>[40:23] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://blog.hootsuite.com/reach-vs-impressions/#:~:text=Reach%20refers%20to%20the%20total,your%20ad's%20reach%20is%20100." target="_blank">Reach</a></li><li>[41:17] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.adroll.com/blog/community-marketing-fuels-growth#:~:text=What%20Exactly%20is%20Community%20Marketing,way%20that%20puts%20customers%20first." target="_blank">Community</a></li><li>[41:41] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.21seeds.com/" target="_blank">Email List</a></li><li>[44:21] Save time with your high-quality podcast. Email me at <a href="mailto:max&#64;&#109;&#97;xp&#111;d&#99;ast&#105;&#110;g&#46;&#99;o&#109;">max&#64;m&#97;&#120;&#112;o&#100;&#99;ast&#105;n&#103;.&#99;o&#109;</a> to bring your podcast to life and use it as a business-building tool</li></ul></li></ul>



<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-large is-resized"><img loading="lazy" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/21seeds-1024x683.jpg" alt="Kat Hantas - Wild Business Growth Podcast #196: Tequila Tastemaker, Co-Founder of 21Seeds" class="wp-image-5765" width="691" height="461" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/21seeds-1024x683.jpg 1024w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/21seeds-400x267.jpg 400w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/21seeds-768x512.jpg 768w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/21seeds-500x333.jpg 500w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/21seeds-400x267@2x.jpg 800w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/21seeds-1280x853.jpg 1280w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/21seeds-768x512@2x.jpg 1536w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/21seeds.jpg 1800w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/21seeds-500x333@2x.jpg 1000w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/21seeds-800x533@2x.jpg 1600w" sizes="(max-width: 691px) 100vw, 691px" /><figcaption>Which one will you try first?</figcaption></figure></div>



<ul id="block-e2455cfc-8974-4c8c-9460-307439cd97ee"><li><strong>Rapid-Fire Q&amp;A</strong><ul><li>[45:20] What does the name &#8220;21Seeds&#8221; mean</li><li>[46:11] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.tiktok.com/en/" target="_blank">TikTok</a></li><li>[46:48] What&#8217;s something surprising about working with comedians</li><li>[48:06] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.greeka.com/cyclades/milos/" target="_blank">Milos, Greece</a></li><li>[48:26] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://spiliarestaurant.gr/" target="_blank">Spilia</a>, Mykonos, Greece</li><li>[49:03] <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/B1jrLvsnGr6/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link">Our Greek Trip</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/B1uzP-pH6bc/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Our Greek Trip</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/B1e-cC9HRhH/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Our Greek Trip</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/B1xg3yvnAzy/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Paris</a></li><li>[49:31] How do you pronounce it</li><li>[49:45] Shoutout Alex &amp; Ali</li><li>[49:54] What&#8217;s Kat&#8217;s favorite food to pair with 21Seeds drinking</li><li>[50:17] <a href="https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attractions-g775272-Activities-c57-t58-Tequila.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Jose Cuervo Gardens in Tequila</a></li><li>[50:37] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kardashian_family" target="_blank">Kardashians</a></li><li>[51:37] Connect with Kat on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/21seeds/" target="_blank">Instagram</a> @21Seeds and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.21seeds.com/" target="_blank">21Seeds.com</a></li></ul><ul><li>[53:00] What are Kat&#8217;s Final Thoughts</li></ul><ul><li>[53:49] Follow the <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">Wild Business Growth Podcast</a></em> and tell a friend about the podcast. And 5 stars on Apple Podcasts &amp; Spotify if you&#8217;re feeling super nice</li></ul><ul><li>[54:10] Check out the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast </em>on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.goodpods.com/" target="_blank">GoodPods</a>, where you can see what your favorite people are listening to</li><li>[54:12] Connect with me on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/maxbranstetter/" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/max-branstetter-74150a57/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a> @MaxBranstetter</li><li>[54:15] Save time with your high-quality podcast. Email me at <a href="mailto:&#109;&#97;x&#64;max&#112;o&#100;&#99;a&#115;ting.co&#109;">&#109;&#97;&#120;&#64;ma&#120;&#112;&#111;&#100;cas&#116;&#105;n&#103;.&#99;o&#109;</a> to bring your podcast to life and use it as a business-building tool</li><li>Theme music: Freestyle Percussion Magik &#8211; &#8220;Jungle Tribe&#8221; &#8211; provided by Jamendo</li></ul></li></ul>



<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-large"><img loading="lazy" width="1024" height="1024" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Max-OFFICIAL-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-1024x1024.jpg" alt="Kat Hantas - Wild Business Growth Podcast #196: Tequila Tastemaker, Co-Founder of 21Seeds" class="wp-image-2734" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Max-OFFICIAL-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Max-OFFICIAL-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-200x200@2x.jpg 400w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Max-OFFICIAL-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-200x200.jpg 200w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Max-OFFICIAL-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-768x768.jpg 768w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Max-OFFICIAL-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-500x500.jpg 500w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Max-OFFICIAL-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-400x400@2x.jpg 800w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Max-OFFICIAL-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-1280x1280.jpg 1280w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Max-OFFICIAL-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-1920x1920.jpg 1920w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Max-OFFICIAL-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-768x768@2x.jpg 1536w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Max-OFFICIAL-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-1024x1024@2x.jpg 2048w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Max-OFFICIAL-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-500x500@2x.jpg 1000w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Max-OFFICIAL-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-800x800@2x.jpg 1600w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Max-OFFICIAL-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-1280x1280@2x.jpg 2560w" sizes="(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px" /></figure></div>



<h2 id="podcast-summary"><strong>What is the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em>?</strong></h2>



<p>Wild ideas. Wild growth. Every Wednesday morning a new entrepreneur joins the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em> to share the wildly creative and unusual ways they grew their business &#8211; and teaches you how to do it, too. Hear the minds behind WordPress, Stacy&#8217;s Pita Chips, Drybar, the voice of Bart Simpson, and more wild stories. Hosted by <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/about/" target="_blank">Max Branstetter</a> (that&#8217;s me), Founder and Podcast Producer at MaxPodcasting.</p>



<h2><strong>How do you start a podcast?</strong></h2>



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