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					<description><![CDATA[Nicole Smith, the Founder and CEO of Flytographer, joins the Wild Business Growth Podcast to share her journey from selling her car to stay in business to creating the vacation photo marketplace that’s captured over 4 million memories in nearly 400 cities around the world.]]></description>
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<p>Keep going with your side hustle. You might just create a side hustle for people all around the world. That&#8217;s the story of this week&#8217;s <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth&nbsp;Podcast</em></a> guest, Nicole Smith. Nicole is the Founder and CEO of Flytographer. Listen to the episode on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wild-business-growth-podcast/id1422144338?mt=2" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6mSUsqYobBljhKIuK9sKJV" target="_blank">Spotify</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPJ7ovuCpHVg7SJchnF2BZg" target="_blank">YouTube</a>,&nbsp;and your other favorite <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">podcast platforms</a>.</p>



<ul><li><a href="#episode-summary">Episode Summary &amp; Player</a></li><li><a href="#full-transcript">Full Transcript</a></li><li><a href="#show-notes">Show Notes</a></li><li><a href="#podcast-summary"><em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em> Summary</a></li></ul>



<h2 id="episode-summary">Episode 280: Nicole Smith – Travel Photo Maestro, Founder of Flytographer</h2>



<p>Nicole Smith, the Founder and CEO of Flytographer, joins the show to share her journey from selling her car to stay in business to creating the vacation photo marketplace that’s captured over 4 million memories in nearly 400 cities around the world. Hear how to sleep on a trampoline, turn your side hustle into a full-time business, stay easy to work with, run a global company, and a special Travel Edition of Rapid-Fire Q&amp;A. This episode covers everything from Roberta in Rome to the time zones in Antarctica. Here&#8217;s a small sample of what you will hear in this episode:</p>



<ul><li>Eating KD</li><li>Where did the idea for Flytographer come from</li><li>What&#8217;s the benefit of Flytographer for customers and photographers</li><li>How much of the Flytographer business is vacation photos</li><li>Freak Encounters!</li><li>How often should you speak with your coach or mentor</li><li>Where&#8217;s the most beautiful place Nicole has traveled to</li><li>What country had the biggest culture shock</li></ul>



<p>Connect with Nicole at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.flytographer.com/" target="_blank">Flytographer.com</a>, on Instagram <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/flytographer/" target="_blank">@Flytographer</a> and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/flytographerlife/" target="_blank">@FlytographerLife</a>, and on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://ca.linkedin.com/in/nicolelisasmith" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a>.</p>



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<p>Enjoy the shoooooow! Check out the show notes below for much more detail. You can also find the full transcript <a href="https://maxpodcasting.com/nicole-smith-transcript/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">here</a>.</p>



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<h2 id="show-notes"><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2>



<ul><li><strong>Intro &amp; Sacrifices</strong><ul><li>[0:31] Email me at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="mailto:ma&#120;&#64;&#104;&#105;&#112;&#112;&#111;&#100;&#105;&#114;&#101;&#99;t&#46;com" target="_blank">&#109;&#97;&#120;&#64;&#109;&#97;&#120;&#112;od&#99;as&#116;&#105;ng&#46;com</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool</li><li>[0:41] Connect with Nicole at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.flytographer.com/" target="_blank">Flytographer.com</a>, on Instagram <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/flytographer/" target="_blank">@Flytographer</a> and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/flytographerlife/" target="_blank">@FlytographerLife</a>, and on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://ca.linkedin.com/in/nicolelisasmith" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a></li></ul><ul><li>[2:05] Subtle voice crack</li><li>[2:21] Of course!</li><li>[2:45] Why did Nicole sell her car</li><li>[3:01] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.microsoft.com/" target="_blank">Microsoft</a></li><li>[3:08] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://fastercapital.com/content/The-Ultimate-Guide-to-Becoming-a-Sidepreneur-in-2022.html" target="_blank">Sidepreneur</a></li><li>[3:43] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.flytographer.com/" target="_blank">Startup</a></li><li>[5:01] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/i/income.asp" target="_blank">Income</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.bankrate.com/mortgages/mortgage-calculator/" target="_blank">Mortgage</a>, Personal <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/b/burnrate.asp" target="_blank">Burn Rate</a></li><li>[5:12] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/kraft-dinner-s-kd-name-change-bets-money-on-nostalgia-1.3175397" target="_blank">KD</a> (Kraft Dinner)</li><li>[6:28] Liz Giorgi – <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/liz-giorgi/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth</em> Podcast #276</a>: Virtual Product Photography, Co-Founder of <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://soona.co/" target="_blank">soona</a></li><li>[6:43] Aytekin Tank – <a href="https://maxpodcasting.com/aytekin-tank/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><em>Wild Business Growth</em> Podcast #278</a>: Automate Your Busywork, Founder of <a href="https://www.jotform.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Jotform</a></li><li>[7:15] What were the reactions when Nicole sold her car to keep <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.flytographer.com/" target="_blank">Flytographer</a> going</li><li>[8:52] Shoutout, pie</li><li>[9:03] How do you sleep on a trampoline</li></ul></li></ul>



<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-large is-resized"><img loading="lazy" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/SquadShot-Nicole-Smith-1024x538.png" alt="Nicole Smith Flytographer" class="wp-image-8573" width="710" height="373" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/SquadShot-Nicole-Smith-1024x538.png 1024w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/SquadShot-Nicole-Smith-400x210.png 400w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/SquadShot-Nicole-Smith-768x403.png 768w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/SquadShot-Nicole-Smith-500x263.png 500w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/SquadShot-Nicole-Smith-400x210@2x.png 800w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/SquadShot-Nicole-Smith.png 1200w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/SquadShot-Nicole-Smith-500x263@2x.png 1000w" sizes="(max-width: 710px) 100vw, 710px" /><figcaption>So Fly</figcaption></figure></div>



<ul><li><strong>The Flytographer Story</strong><ul><li>[9:34] Flytographer: The Opposite of Raccoons</li><li>[9:52] Where did the idea for <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.flytographer.com/" target="_blank">Flytographer</a> come from</li><li>[11:00] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selfie" target="_blank">Selfie</a></li><li>[11:43] Wide-Angle Shot or <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.studiobinder.com/blog/wide-shot-camera-angles-movements-examples/" target="_blank">Wide Shot</a> (WS)</li><li>[12:23] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.apple.com/iphone/" target="_blank">iPhone</a> </li><li>[14:10] What did Flytographer look like as a <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.ramseysolutions.com/saving/side-hustle-ideas" target="_blank">Side Hustle</a></li></ul><ul><li>[14:47] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.ama.org/the-definition-of-marketing-what-is-marketing/" target="_blank">Marketing</a></li><li>[16:11] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.adobe.com/uk/creativecloud/photography/discover/dots-per-inch-dpi-resolution.html" target="_blank">DPI</a> (Dots Per Inch)</li><li>[17:14] What&#8217;s the benefit of Flytographer for <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.flytographer.com/join/" target="_blank">photographers</a></li><li>[17:31] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.flytographer.com/proposals-ideas-hire-a-proposal-photographer/" target="_blank">Wedding Photographers</a></li><li>[18:48] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.interaction-design.org/literature/article/kiss-keep-it-simple-stupid-a-design-principle" target="_blank">K.I.S.S.</a> (Keep It Simple, Stupid)</li><li>[18:50] Shoutout, Alliteration (kinda)</li><li>[18:53] How do you keep your business easy to work with</li><li>[20:08] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.hippodirect.com/best-lists-by-market-segment" target="_blank">Emails</a></li></ul><ul><li>[20:18] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://api.slack.com/methods" target="_blank">Slack Channel API</a> (Application Programming Interface)</li><li>[20:32] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.amazon.com/STAPLES-Staples-Easy-Button/dp/B001FVI280" target="_blank">Staples Easy Button</a></li><li>[20:54] What&#8217;s the benefit of Flytographer for customers</li><li>[23:15] Shoutout, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.flytographer.com/vacation-photographers/your-vacation-photographer-in-rome-meet-roberta/" target="_blank">Roberta in Rome</a>!</li><li>[23:31] Why did Nicole expand Flytographer into other local photoshoots</li><li>[24:49] How much of the Flytographer business is vacation photos</li><li>[25:32] Poor <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.cntraveler.com/gallery/20-photos-that-will-make-you-want-to-visit-antarctica" target="_blank">Antarctica</a></li><li>[25:49] How do you navigate different business laws in different countries</li><li>[26:05] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/coo.asp" target="_blank">COO</a> (Chief Operating Officer)</li><li>[27:00] Super-citing!</li><li>[27:22] How much time do photographers spend on Flytographer</li><li>[28:07] How does it feel to start a side hustle that became a side hustle for so many</li><li>[28:38] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.flytographer.com/join/" target="_blank">Flytographer Global Meetup</a></li><li>[29:45] Shoutout, Brad!</li><li>[30:00] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.flytographer.com/vacation-photographers/your-vacation-photographer-in-amsterdam-meet-joanna/" target="_blank">Joanna in Amsterdam</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.flytographer.com/vacation-photographers/your-vacation-photographer-in-paris-meet-olga/" target="_blank">Olga in Paris</a></li><li>[31:02] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/maxbranstetter/p/CuNHgDUr2XZ/" target="_blank">Honeymoon Pics</a></li><li>[31:53] Freak Encounters!</li><li>[32:52] Come to CEX (Content Entrepreneur Expo) May 5-7, 2024 in Cleveland, OH! Save $100 off the in-person ticket price by registering at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://cex.events/" target="_blank">CEX.Events</a> and using the coupon code: MAX100</li></ul><ul><li>[32:54] The <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em> is on YouTube! <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/@maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Subscribe @MaxBranstetter</a> to watch full video interviews with Wild entrepreneurs like Nicole</li></ul><ul><li>[33:52] Sign up for the <em>Podcasting to the Max</em> newsletter at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/newsletter/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/Newsletter</a> and receive <em>How to Edit Your Podcast in Audacity</em>. It&#8217;s where podcasting meets entrepreneurship &#8211; and terrible puns</li></ul><ul><li>[33:53] Such an honor speaking at Podcast Movement &#8217;23 in Denver! Sign up to grab the slides from my session at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/PM23/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/PM23</a></li></ul></li></ul>



<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-large is-resized"><img loading="lazy" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Flytographer.png" alt="Flytographer" class="wp-image-8576" width="252" height="253" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Flytographer.png 345w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/Flytographer-200x200.png 200w" sizes="(max-width: 252px) 100vw, 252px" /></figure></div>



<ul><li><strong>Inspiration &amp; Creativity</strong><ul><li>[34:32] How do you run a global company</li><li>[35:06] How do you find a way to unplug as a business owner</li><li>[35:15] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zone/antarctica" target="_blank">Antarctica Time Zones</a></li><li>[35:40] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://techcrunch.com/" target="_blank">Tech</a> (Technology)</li><li>[36:12] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.flytographer.com/" target="_blank">Flytographer Booking Platform</a></li><li>[36:55] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.adroll.com/blog/growth-marketing" target="_blank">Growth Marketing</a></li><li>[37:34] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.betterup.com/blog/what-is-self-awareness" target="_blank">Self-Awareness</a></li></ul><ul><li>[38:26] Soccer it is</li></ul><ul><li>[38:53] How often should you speak with your coach or <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.mentoring.org/" target="_blank">mentor</a></li><li>[39:58] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/09/well/move/walk-talk-social-connections-conversation.html" target="_blank">Walk &amp; Talk</a></li><li>[40:47] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">Podcasts</a></li><li>[40:50] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://health.clevelandclinic.org/everything-you-want-to-know-about-pilates" target="_blank">Pilates</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://usapickleball.org/what-is-pickleball/" target="_blank">Pickleball</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.homedepot.com/b/Outdoors-Home-Spas-Hot-Tubs/N-5yc1vZcfz2" target="_blank">Hot Tub</a> (PPHT)</li><li>[41:11] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7zv_3pHhHI" target="_blank">Gym, Tan, Laundry</a> (GTL)</li></ul></li><li><strong>Rapid-Fire Q&amp;A: Travel Edition</strong><ul><li>[41:55] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.tourismthailand.org/Attraction/railay-beach" target="_blank">Railay Beach</a></li><li>[42:02] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerulean" target="_blank">Cerulean</a></li><li>[43:04] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://mykoreankitchen.com/dolsot-bibimbap/" target="_blank">Dolsot Bibimbap</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://minimalistbaker.com/easy-gochujang-sauce-korean-chili-paste/" target="_blank">Gochujang</a></li><li>[43:22] Don&#8217;t even try</li><li>[43:31] What country had the biggest <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_shock" target="_blank">culture shock</a></li><li>[44:24] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.japan-guide.com/e/e6075.html" target="_blank">Kiso Valley</a></li><li>[44:49] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.oldgrowthforest.net/" target="_blank">Old-Growth Forest</a></li><li>[45:21] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.flytographer.com/vacation-photographers/your-vacation-photographer-in-kiso-valley-meet-masa/" target="_blank">Masa in Kiso Valley</a></li><li>[45:55] What places are on Nicole&#8217;s bucket list</li><li>[46:22] Previewed</li><li>[46:32] What&#8217;s the best place for kids besides <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/" target="_blank">Disney World</a> &amp; <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://disneyland.disney.go.com/" target="_blank">Disneyland</a></li><li>[47:22] Sheesh</li><li>[47:55] Why should you visit <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.tourismvictoria.com/" target="_blank">Victoria</a>, Canada</li><li>[48:48] &#8220;<a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.tourismvictoria.com/conde" target="_blank">Condé Nast Readers Vote Victoria Best City in the World 2023</a>&#8220;</li><li>[49:19] Connect with Nicole at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.flytographer.com/" target="_blank">Flytographer.com</a>, on Instagram <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/flytographer/" target="_blank">@Flytographer</a> and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/flytographerlife/" target="_blank">@FlytographerLife</a>, and on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://ca.linkedin.com/in/nicolelisasmith" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a></li></ul><ul><li>[49:40] What are Nicole&#8217;s Final Thoughts</li><li>[49:58] <em><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Everything-Figureoutable-Marie-Forleo/dp/0525534997" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Everything Is Figuroutable</a></em> by Marie Forleo</li><li>[50:23]&nbsp;Follow the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em></a> and tell a friend about the podcast. And show love (or roast me) by leaving 5 stars on Apple Podcasts and/or Spotify</li></ul><ul><li>[51:32] The <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em> is on YouTube! <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/@maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Subscribe @MaxBranstetter</a> to watch full video interviews with Wild entrepreneurs like Nicole</li></ul><ul><li>[51:40] Check out the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast&nbsp;</em>on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.goodpods.com/" target="_blank">Goodpods</a>, where you can see what your favorite people are listening to</li><li>[50:41] Come to CEX (Content Entrepreneur Expo) May 5-7, 2024 in Cleveland, OH! Save $100 off the in-person ticket price by registering at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://cex.events/" target="_blank">CEX.Events</a> and using the coupon code: MAX100</li><li>[50:43]&nbsp;Connect with me on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/max-branstetter-74150a57/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/maxbranstetter/" target="_blank">Instagram</a>,&nbsp;<a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Twitter</a> (aka <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/maxbranstetter" target="_blank">X</a>), and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.threads.net/@maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Threads</a> @MaxBranstetter and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.tiktok.com/@wildbusinessgrowth" target="_blank">TikTok</a> @WildBusinessGrowth</li><li>[50:44] Save time with your high-quality podcast. Email me at <a href="mailto:m&#97;&#120;&#64;&#109;ax&#112;odca&#115;ti&#110;g.c&#111;m">&#109;ax&#64;m&#97;&#120;&#112;&#111;&#100;&#99;a&#115;ti&#110;g.&#99;&#111;m</a> to bring your podcast to life and use it as a business-building tool</li><li>[50:48] Sign up for the <em>Podcasting to the Max</em> newsletter at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/newsletter/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/Newsletter</a> and receive <em>How to Edit Your Podcast in Audacity</em>. It&#8217;s where podcasting meets entrepreneurship &#8211; and terrible puns</li><li>Theme music: Freestyle Percussion Magik &#8211; &#8220;Jungle Tribe&#8221; &#8211; provided by Jamendo</li></ul></li></ul>



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<h2 id="podcast-summary"><strong>What is the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em>?</strong></h2>



<p>Wild ideas. Wild growth. Every Wednesday morning a new entrepreneur joins the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em> to share the wildly creative and unusual ways they grew their business &#8211; and teaches you how to do it, too. Hear the minds behind WordPress, Stacy&#8217;s Pita Chips, Drybar, NFL RedZone, Big Mouth Billy Bass, the voice of Bart Simpson, and more Wild stories. Hosted by <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/about/" target="_blank">Max Branstetter</a> (that&#8217;s me), Founder and Podcast Producer at MaxPodcasting.</p>



<h2><strong>How do you start a podcast?</strong></h2>



<p>Interested in starting a professional-sounding podcast for your brand, but don&#8217;t want to deal with the time commitment of all those behind-the-scenes details? I’ve got you covered. Email me at <a href="mailto:max&#64;max&#112;&#111;dcast&#105;n&#103;&#46;co&#109;">&#109;a&#120;&#64;&#109;a&#120;&#112;&#111;dca&#115;&#116;&#105;n&#103;.&#99;&#111;&#109;</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool.</p>



<p>Thanks for listening to Nicole Smith on the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em>.<em> </em>To hear more Wild stories like this one every Wednesday morning, follow the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em></a> and tell a friend about it. And find a Flytographer with them. Until next time, Let your business Run Wild&#8230;and <strong><em>Bring on the Bongos!!</em></strong></p>
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		<title>Liz Giorgi &#8211; Wild Business Growth Podcast #276: Virtual Product Photography, Co-Founder of soona</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Max Branstetter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2024 02:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<category><![CDATA[Entrepreneurship]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Liz Giorgi]]></category>
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		<category><![CDATA[Photoshoot]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Serial Entrepreneur]]></category>
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					<description><![CDATA[Liz Giorgi, the Co-Founder and CEO of soona, joins the Wild Business Growth Podcast to share her journey from producing for BTN (Big Ten Network) to making product photoshoots better than ever.]]></description>
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<p>Keep it simple &#8211; for your customers, your team, and yourself. That&#8217;s the story of this week&#8217;s <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em></a> guest, Liz Giorgi. Liz is the Co-Founder and CEO of soona. Listen to the episode on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wild-business-growth-podcast/id1422144338?mt=2" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6mSUsqYobBljhKIuK9sKJV" target="_blank">Spotify</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPJ7ovuCpHVg7SJchnF2BZg" target="_blank">YouTube</a>, and your other favorite <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">podcast platforms</a>.</p>



<ul><li><a href="#episode-summary">Episode Summary &amp; Player</a></li><li><a href="#full-transcript">Full Transcript</a></li><li><a href="#show-notes">Show Notes</a></li><li><a href="#podcast-summary"><em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em> Summary</a></li></ul>



<h2 id="episode-summary">Episode 276: Liz Giorgi – Virtual Product Photography, Co-Founder of soona</h2>



<p>Liz Giorgi, the Co-Founder and CEO of soona, joins the show to share her journey from producing for BTN (Big Ten Network) to making product photoshoots better than ever. Hear how to keep your pricing simple, keep your customers happy, quickly decide what to post on social media, how YouTube has changed over the years, and how Liz has changed as a business owner since becoming a mother. This episode covers everything from bootstrapping to Dinkytown. Here&#8217;s a small sample of what you will hear in this episode:</p>



<ul><li>What content did Liz work on for BTN</li><li>Shoutout, the Archivist</li><li>What did Liz learn from her Mighteor journey</li><li>Where did the idea for soona come from</li><li>What was the inflection point for soona&#8217;s tech</li><li>How has Liz been able to scale soona</li><li>What surprised her about techstars</li><li>KitKat</li></ul>



<p>Connect with Liz at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://soona.co/" target="_blank">soona.co</a> and on social media <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/lizgiorgi/" target="_blank">@LizGiorgi</a>.</p>



<h2 id="full-transcript"></h2>



<p>Enjoy the shoooooow! Check out the show notes below for much more detail. You can also find the full transcript <a href="https://maxpodcasting.com/liz-giorgi-transcript/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">here</a>.</p>



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<h2 id="show-notes"><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2>



<ul><li><strong>Intro &amp; BTN</strong><ul><li>[0:31] Email me at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="mailto:max&#64;hi&#112;p&#111;d&#105;rec&#116;.&#99;&#111;&#109;" target="_blank">&#109;a&#120;&#64;&#109;&#97;x&#112;&#111;dcas&#116;&#105;n&#103;&#46;&#99;&#111;&#109;</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool</li><li>[0:40] Connect with Liz at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://soona.co/" target="_blank">soona.co</a> and on social media <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/lizgiorgi/" target="_blank">@LizGiorgi</a></li></ul><ul><li>[2:29] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.nick.com/shows/spongebob-squarepants" target="_blank">SpongeBob SquarePants</a></em></li><li>[2:57] What content did Liz work on for <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://btn.com/" target="_blank">BTN</a> (B1G Network or Big Ten Network)</li><li>[3:06] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://bloomington.iu.edu/index.html" target="_blank">IU</a> (Indiana University)</li><li>[3:12] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.secsports.com/" target="_blank">SEC</a> (Southeastern Conference)</li><li>[4:39] What did Liz actually do at BTN</li><li>[4:58] Shoutout, the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www2.archivists.org/careers/beanarchivist" target="_blank">Archivist</a></li><li>[5:58] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.pbs.org/" target="_blank">PBS</a> (Public Broadcasting Service), <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/PBS" target="_blank">PBS YouTube</a></li><li>[6:24] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">Wild Business Growth Podcast</a></em></li><li>[6:52] What was it like turning PBS content into YouTube videos</li><li>[7:22] No idea what that was</li><li>[7:41] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.thefastmode.com/wiki-digital-content/5476-appointment-tv" target="_blank">Appointment Programming</a></li><li>[8:18] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://pbskids.org/apps/" target="_blank">PBS KIDS App</a></li><li>[9:33] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.netflix.com/browse/genre/9833" target="_blank">Reality TV</a></li><li>[9:44] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://blog.hubspot.com/marketing/content-creation" target="_blank">Content Creation</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.sas.com/en_us/insights/analytics/what-is-artificial-intelligence.html" target="_blank">AI</a> (Artificial Intelligence)</li></ul></li></ul>



<figure class="wp-block-image size-large"><img loading="lazy" width="1024" height="538" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/SquadShot-Liz-Giorgi-1024x538.png" alt="SquadShot Liz Giorgi" class="wp-image-8427" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/SquadShot-Liz-Giorgi-1024x538.png 1024w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/SquadShot-Liz-Giorgi-400x210.png 400w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/SquadShot-Liz-Giorgi-768x403.png 768w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/SquadShot-Liz-Giorgi-500x263.png 500w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/SquadShot-Liz-Giorgi-400x210@2x.png 800w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/SquadShot-Liz-Giorgi.png 1200w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/SquadShot-Liz-Giorgi-500x263@2x.png 1000w" sizes="(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px" /><figcaption>soona or lata</figcaption></figure>



<ul><li><strong>The soona Story</strong><ul><li>[10:45] What did Liz learn from her <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/mighteor/" target="_blank">Mighteor</a> journey</li><li>[11:31] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.facebook.com/" target="_blank">Facebook</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://vimeo.com/" target="_blank">Vimeo</a></li><li>[12:08] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.wellsfargo.com/" target="_blank">Wells Fargo</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.uhc.com/" target="_blank">UnitedHealthcare</a></li><li>[12:16] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/plstatement.asp" target="_blank">P&amp;L</a> (Profit &amp; Loss Statement), <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://corporatefinanceinstitute.com/resources/accounting/balance-sheet/" target="_blank">Balance Sheet</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://quickbooks.intuit.com/payroll/" target="_blank">Payroll</a></li><li>[12:42] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/b/bootstrapping.asp" target="_blank">Bootstrapping</a></li><li>[12:54] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://asq.org/quality-resources/customer-satisfaction" target="_blank">Customer Satisfaction</a></li><li>[12:58] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/122214/what-difference-between-revenue-and-income.asp" target="_blank">Revenue</a></li><li>[13:26] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/h/humanresources.asp" target="_blank">HR</a> (Human Resources), <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.indeed.com/hire/c/info/definition-of-sales" target="_blank">Sales</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.dol.gov/sites/dolgov/files/ebsa/about-ebsa/our-activities/resource-center/publications/top-10-ways-to-prepare-for-retirement.pdf" target="_blank">Retirement</a></li><li>[13:41] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.sba.gov/" target="_blank">Small Business</a> </li><li>[14:03] What did I say?!</li><li>[14:11] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.google.com/finance/?hl=en" target="_blank">Finance</a></li><li>[14:27] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.irs.gov/" target="_blank">Tax</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.irs.gov/businesses/small-businesses-self-employed/estimated-taxes" target="_blank">Estimated Payments</a></li><li>[14:48] Where did the idea for <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://soona.co/" target="_blank">soona</a> come from</li><li>[15:10] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.shopify.com/blog/what-is-direct-to-consumer" target="_blank">Direct-to-Consumer</a> (DTC), <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.shopify.com/blog/what-is-ecommerce" target="_blank">eCommerce</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.shopify.com/" target="_blank">Shopify</a></li><li>[15:39] Shoutout, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/hayleyanderson" target="_blank">Hayley</a>!</li><li>[15:45] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://cloud.google.com/storage" target="_blank">The Cloud</a></li><li>[16:40] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/leeseymour/2017/12/01/app-hopes-to-become-uber-for-the-modeling-industry-minus-the-abuse/" target="_blank">Uber for Models</a></li><li>[17:12] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.techstars.com/" target="_blank">techstars</a></li><li>[17:56] How did Liz&#8217;s conversation go with Hayley</li><li>[19:54] What was the inflection point for soona&#8217;s tech (technology)</li><li>[20:28] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.kpi.org/kpi-basics/" target="_blank">KPI</a> (Key Performance Indicator)</li><li>[21:19] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.trade.gov/protect-intellectual-property" target="_blank">IP</a> (Intellectual Property)</li><li>[21:48] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.techstars.com/accelerators/boulder" target="_blank">techstars Boulder</a></li><li>[22:50] &#8220;<a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO15qTiUhLI" target="_blank">They&#8217;ve gone to Plaid!</a>&#8221; from <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094012/" target="_blank">Spaceballs</a></em></li><li>[23:08] How much of soona&#8217;s business is photoshoots</li><li>[24:24] Where does Liz spend most of her time on the business</li><li>[25:07] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://sellercentral.amazon.es/selling-partner-appstore/dp/amzn1.sp.solution.2fa71287-0dd7-46bf-99ff-e7b71d84bee9" target="_blank">Amazon</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://apps.shopify.com/soona" target="_blank">Shopify</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.canva.com/apps/AAFiuSlg4ng/soona" target="_blank">Canva</a></li><li>[26:15] How has Liz been able to scale soona</li><li>[28:31] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://sproutsocial.com/insights/surprise-and-delight/" target="_blank">Surprise &amp; Delight</a> (S&amp;D)</li><li>[28:46] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/ceo.asp" target="_blank">Chief Executive Officer</a> (CEO), <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.skyword.com/contentstandard/what-is-a-chief-storyteller-five-business-leaders-share-their-stories/" target="_blank">Chief Storytelling Officer</a> (CSO)</li><li>[28:57] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/elizabethgiorgi" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/lizgiorgi/" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.tiktok.com/@ceolady" target="_blank">TikTok</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/lizgiorgi" target="_blank">Twitter aka X</a></li><li>[29:21] Artificial Stalling (AS)</li><li>[30:05] Propoment aka <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/v/valueproposition.asp" target="_blank">Value Prop</a></li><li>[30:48] How do you stay focused ON the business</li><li>[31:21] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://adage.com/" target="_blank">Advertising</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.indeed.com/career-advice/finding-a-job/what-is-a-pr-firm" target="_blank">Publicity Firm</a> (PR)</li><li>[32:12] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.post-it.com/3M/en_US/post-it/" target="_blank">Post-it Note</a></li><li>[33:57] Come on!</li><li>[34:10] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://apps.apple.com/us/app/notes/id1110145109" target="_blank">Notes App</a></li><li>[34:33] The <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em> is on YouTube! <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/@maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Subscribe @MaxBranstetter</a> to watch full video interviews with Wild entrepreneurs like Liz</li></ul><ul><li>[34:34] Sign up for the <em>Podcasting to the Max</em> newsletter at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/newsletter/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/Newsletter</a> and receive <em>How to Edit Your Podcast in Audacity</em>. It&#8217;s where podcasting meets entrepreneurship &#8211; and terrible puns</li></ul><ul><li>[34:35] Such an honor speaking at Podcast Movement &#8217;23 in Denver! Sign up to grab the slides from my session at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/PM23/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/PM23</a></li></ul></li></ul>



<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-large is-resized"><img loading="lazy" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/soona-1024x535.jpg" alt="soona Liz Giorgi" class="wp-image-8430" width="384" height="200" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/soona-1024x535.jpg 1024w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/soona-400x209.jpg 400w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/soona-768x401.jpg 768w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/soona-500x261.jpg 500w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/soona-400x209@2x.jpg 800w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/soona.jpg 1200w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/soona-500x261@2x.jpg 1000w" sizes="(max-width: 384px) 100vw, 384px" /><figcaption>The coolest brand</figcaption></figure></div>



<ul><li><strong>Rapid-Fire Q&amp;A</strong><ul><li>[35:40] What surprised Liz about techstars</li><li>[36:01] How has YouTube changed over the years</li><li>[36:39] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCblfuW_4rakIf2h6aqANefA" target="_blank">Red Bull YouTube</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/@mrbeast" target="_blank">MrBeast YouTube</a></li><li>[37:22] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twin-cities.umn.edu/home" target="_blank">University of Minnesota</a> </li><li>[37:45] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.minneapolis.org/neighborhoods/dinkytown/" target="_blank">Dinkytown</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/kittycatklubmpls/?hl=en" target="_blank">Kitty Cat Klub</a></li><li>[38:05] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://shop.hersheys.com/our-brands/kit-kat%C2%AE/" target="_blank">KitKat</a></li><li>[38:08] How has Liz changed as a business owner since becoming a mother</li><li>[39:04] Connect with Liz at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://soona.co/" target="_blank">soona.co</a> and on social media <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/lizgiorgi/" target="_blank">@LizGiorgi</a></li><li>[39:25] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.nytimes.com/games/wordle/index.html" target="_blank">Wordle</a></li></ul><ul><li>[39:38] What are Liz&#8217;s Final Thoughts</li></ul><ul><li>[40:20] Follow the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em></a> and tell a friend about the podcast. And show love (or roast me) by leaving 5 stars on Apple Podcasts and/or Spotify</li></ul><ul><li>[40:25] Check out the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast </em>on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.goodpods.com/" target="_blank">Goodpods</a>, where you can see what your favorite people are listening to</li><li>[40:28] The <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em> is on YouTube! <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/@maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Subscribe @MaxBranstetter</a> to watch full video interviews with Wild entrepreneurs like Liz</li><li>[40:30] Connect with me on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/max-branstetter-74150a57/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/maxbranstetter/" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Twitter</a> (aka <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/maxbranstetter" target="_blank">X</a>), and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.threads.net/@maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Threads</a> @MaxBranstetter and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.tiktok.com/@wildbusinessgrowth" target="_blank">TikTok</a> @WildBusinessGrowth</li><li>[40:34] Save time with your high-quality podcast. Email me at <a href="mailto:ma&#120;&#64;&#109;a&#120;pod&#99;&#97;s&#116;i&#110;&#103;.c&#111;m">&#109;ax&#64;&#109;&#97;x&#112;o&#100;&#99;&#97;s&#116;i&#110;&#103;.co&#109;</a> to bring your podcast to life and use it as a business-building tool</li><li>[40:43] Sign up for the <em>Podcasting to the Max</em> newsletter at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/newsletter/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/Newsletter</a> and receive <em>How to Edit Your Podcast in Audacity</em>. It&#8217;s where podcasting meets entrepreneurship &#8211; and terrible puns</li><li>Theme music: Freestyle Percussion Magik &#8211; &#8220;Jungle Tribe&#8221; &#8211; provided by Jamendo</li></ul></li></ul>



<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-large is-resized"><img loading="lazy" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Max-OFFICIAL-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-1024x1024.jpg" alt="Liz Giorgi - Wild Business Growth Podcast #276: Virtual Product Photography, Co-Founder of soona" class="wp-image-4217" width="519" height="519"/></figure></div>



<h2 id="podcast-summary"><strong>What is the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em>?</strong></h2>



<p>Wild ideas. Wild growth. Every Wednesday morning a new entrepreneur joins the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em> to share the wildly creative and unusual ways they grew their business &#8211; and teaches you how to do it, too. Hear the minds behind WordPress, Stacy&#8217;s Pita Chips, Drybar, NFL RedZone, Big Mouth Billy Bass, the voice of Bart Simpson, and more Wild stories. Hosted by <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/about/" target="_blank">Max Branstetter</a> (that&#8217;s me), Founder and Podcast Producer at MaxPodcasting.</p>



<h2><strong>How do you start a podcast?</strong></h2>



<p>Interested in starting a professional-sounding podcast for your brand, but don&#8217;t want to deal with the time commitment of all those behind-the-scenes details? I’ve got you covered. Email me at <a href="mailto:&#109;a&#120;&#64;ma&#120;po&#100;cas&#116;in&#103;.&#99;o&#109;">ma&#120;&#64;maxp&#111;&#100;&#99;&#97;&#115;&#116;&#105;&#110;&#103;.c&#111;m</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool.</p>



<p>Thanks for listening to Liz Giorgi on the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em>.<em> </em>To hear more Wild stories like this one every Wednesday morning, follow the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em></a> and tell a friend about it. And do something soona with them. Until next time, Let your business Run Wild&#8230;and <strong><em>Bring on the Bongos!!</em></strong></p>
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