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					<description><![CDATA[Ilana Ben-Ari, the Founder, CEO, and Lead Designer of Twenty One Toys, joins the Wild Business Growth Podcast to share her journey from playing with abstract toys as a kid to bringing the transformative power of play into thousands of schools and offices around the world.]]></description>
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<p class="has-drop-cap">We all played with toys growing up. Have you ever wondered why we enjoyed playing with them so much, and why we stopped playing with them as we grew up? This week&#8217;s <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">Wild Business Growth&nbsp;Podcast</a></em> guest, Ilana Ben-Ari, is bringing toys into both the classroom and the workplace. Ilana is the Founder, CEO, and Lead Designer at Twenty One Toys. Listen to the episode on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wild-business-growth-podcast/id1422144338?mt=2" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6mSUsqYobBljhKIuK9sKJV" target="_blank">Spotify</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://podcasts.google.com/?feed=aHR0cDovL3dpbGRidXNpbmVzc2dyb3d0aHBvZGNhc3QubGlic3luLmNvbS9yc3M%3D" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a>,&nbsp;and your other favorite <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">podcast platforms</a>.</p>



<h2><strong>What is the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em>?</strong></h2>



<p>Wild ideas. Wild growth. Every Wednesday morning a new entrepreneur or innovator joins the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em> to share the crazy creative and unusual ways they grew their business, and provides tips for you to do it, too. Hear the woman who became the voice of Siri, the man who’s reinventing the sandcastle, how GaryVee’s partners are turning the wine world upside down, and more wild stories. Hosted by <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/about/" target="_blank">Max Branstetter</a> (that&#8217;s me), Founder and Podcast Producer at MaxPodcasting.</p>



<h2><strong>Episode 125: Ilana Ben-Ari &#8211; Creative Toy Designer, Founder of Twenty One Toys</strong></h2>



<p>Ilana Ben-Ari, the Founder, CEO, and Lead Designer of Twenty One Toys, joins the show to share her journey from playing with abstract toys as a kid to bringing the transformative power of play into thousands of schools and offices around the world. Hear why we learn through play, how the Empathy Toy and Failure Toy work, what skills will be most important in the future workplace, the punny URLs Ilana has secured, and her impression that will quack you up. This episode covers everything from toy design to what we can learn from failure. Here&#8217;s a small sample of what you will hear in this episode:</p>



<ul><li>What was Ilana&#8217;s favorite toy growing up</li><li>Why are we attracted to the abstract</li><li>Where did the idea for Twenty One Toys come from</li><li>Why does playing with toys help us learn and grow</li><li>What is the Empathy Toy and the Failure Toy</li><li>What does &#8220;Girls&#8221; by Beastie Boys have to do with toys</li><li>What is the punniest URL Ilana owns</li><li>Her Donald Duck impression</li></ul>



<p>Connect with Ilana at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twentyonetoys.com/" target="_blank">TwentyOneToys.com</a> and on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/21toys/" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/21toys" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.facebook.com/21Toys/" target="_blank">Facebook</a> at @21Toys and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/ilanabenari/" target="_blank">@IlanaBenAri</a>.</p>



<p>Enjoy the shooooow! Check out the show notes below for much more detail.</p>



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<h2><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2>



<ul><li><strong>Intro</strong><ul><li>[0:27] Email me at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="mailto:m&#97;x&#64;h&#105;p&#112;o&#100;&#105;&#114;ect.co&#109;" target="_blank">ma&#120;&#64;m&#97;xpo&#100;ca&#115;ti&#110;g.&#99;om</a> for help using your podcast as a business-building tool</li></ul><ul><li>[0:41] Connect with Ilana at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twentyonetoys.com/" target="_blank">TwentyOneToys.com</a> and on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/21toys/" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/21toys" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.facebook.com/21Toys/" target="_blank">Facebook</a> at @21Toys and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/ilanabenari/" target="_blank">@IlanaBenAri</a></li><li>[1:37] What was Ilana&#8217;s favorite toy growing up</li><li>[2:27] Why is she attracted to the abstract</li><li>[4:02] If you had &#8220;Non-Boy Band <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://onedirectionmusic.com/" target="_blank">One Direction</a> Reference&#8221; on your WBG bingo card, you win </li></ul></li><li><strong>The Twenty One Toys Story</strong><ul><li>[4:10] Where did the idea for <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twentyonetoys.com/" target="_blank">Twenty One Toys</a> come from</li><li>[4:34] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twentyonetoys.com/pages/empathy-toy" target="_blank">Empathy Toy</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twentyonetoys.com/pages/failure-toy" target="_blank">Failure Toy</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twentyonetoys.com/pages/improv-toy" target="_blank">Improv Toy</a></li><li>[4:48] &#8220;<a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="http://www3.weforum.org/docs/WEF_Future_of_Jobs.pdf" target="_blank">The Future of Jobs</a>&#8221; by World Economic Forum</li><li>[5:08] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twentyonetoys.com/pages/professional-development-play-workshops" target="_blank">Twenty One Toys Workshops</a></li><li>[5:16] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.mba.com/explore-programs/program-types/what-is-an-mba" target="_blank">MBA</a> (Masters of Business Administration)</li><li>[5:52] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.productplan.com/glossary/product-design/#:~:text=Product%20design%20describes%20the%20process,the%20product%20is%20being%20created." target="_blank">Product Design</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.idsa.org/what-industrial-design" target="_blank">Industrial Design</a></li><li>[6:04] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://courses.lumenlearning.com/boundless-arthistory/chapter/what-is-art/" target="_blank">Art</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.simplypsychology.org/whatispsychology.html#:~:text=Psychology%20is%20the%20scientific%20study,social%20behavior%20and%20cognitive%20processes." target="_blank">Psychology</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.engineering.com/" target="_blank">Engineering</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://imotions.com/blog/human-behavior/" target="_blank">Human Behavior</a></li><li>[6:36] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.cnib.ca/" target="_blank">Canadian National Institute for the Blind</a> (CNIB)</li><li>[7:00] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.blackberry.com/us/en" target="_blank">BlackBerry</a></li><li>[7:29] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_tech" target="_blank">Hi-Tech</a></li><li>[9:42] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.ed.gov/" target="_blank">Education</a></li><li>[10:04] Sir Ken Robinson TED Talk <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.ted.com/talks/sir_ken_robinson_do_schools_kill_creativity?language=en" target="_blank">&#8220;Do schools kill creativity?&#8221;</a></li><li>[10:52] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/b/bootstrap.asp" target="_blank">Bootstrapped</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/i/investor.asp" target="_blank">Investors</a></li><li>[11:24] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/e/entrepreneur.asp" target="_blank">Entrepreneurs</a></li><li>[11:42] The <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hansel_and_Gretel" target="_blank">Hansel &amp; Gretel</a> Approach</li><li>[12:02] Why do Twenty One Toys work</li><li>[12:04] Ilana&#8217;s <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://empathytoy.com/resources/videos/video-tedx-talk/?utm_source=ilanabenari&amp;utm_medium=website&amp;utm_campaign=cross%20promotion" target="_blank">TEDx Talk</a></li><li>[12:30] <a href="https://www.interac.ca/en/consumers/products/interac-e-transfer/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">e-Transfer</a></li><li>[13:01] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.britannica.com/biography/Friedrich-Froebel" target="_blank">Friedrich Fröbel</a></li><li>[14:11] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.canr.msu.edu/news/why-is-kindergarten-called-kindergarten#:~:text=Kindergarten%20in%20the%20United%20States,and%20for%20school%20in%20general." target="_blank">Kindergarten</a></li><li>[14:16] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.bfi.org/" target="_blank">Buckminster Fuller</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://franklloydwright.org/" target="_blank">Frank Lloyd Wright</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://amshq.org/About-Montessori/History-of-Montessori/Who-Was-Maria-Montessori" target="_blank">Maria Montessori</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.britannica.com/biography/Caroline-Pratt" target="_blank">Caroline Pratt</a></li><li>[14:35] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.amazon.com/Frank-Lloyd-Wright-Autobiography/dp/0764932438" target="_blank">Frank Lloyd Wright: An Autobiography</a></em>, <a href="https://www.architecturaldigest.com/architecture-design" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Architecture</a></li><li>[16:30] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://erm.ncsu.edu/library/article/understanding-risk-appetite" target="_blank">Risk Appetite</a></li><li>[17:07] How does Ilana view failure</li><li>[19:06] <a href="https://www.einsteinmarketer.com/customer-avatar-target-market/#:~:text=A%20customer%20avatar%20is%20a,with%20many%20more%20targeting%20tools." target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Avatar</a></li><li>[21:00] Failure Abstinence aka Fabstinence</li><li>[21:25] Save time with your high-quality podcast. Email me at <a href="mailto:max&#64;&#109;ax&#112;&#111;dc&#97;st&#105;ng.&#99;om">m&#97;&#120;&#64;&#109;a&#120;po&#100;ca&#115;tin&#103;.c&#111;m</a> to bring your podcast to life and use it as a business-building tool</li></ul></li></ul>



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<ul><li><strong>Wild Business Shoutout of the Week</strong><ul><li>[21:55] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://simplicable.com/new/creative-marketing#:~:text=Creative%20marketing%20is%20the%20process,products%20in%20an%20inspiring%20experience." target="_blank">Creative Marketing</a></li><li>[22:00] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://goldieblox.com/" target="_blank">GoldieBlox</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/16029337/goldieblox-the-engineering-toy-for-girls" target="_blank">Kickstarter</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.engineergirl.org/13512/Debbie-Sterling" target="_blank">Debbie Sterling</a></li><li>[22:39] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.toysrus.com/" target="_blank">Toys&#8221;R&#8221;Us</a></li><li>[22:51] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://slate.com/human-interest/2013/11/goldieblox-commercial-rewrites-the-beastie-boys-urges-young-girls-to-pursue-engineering-is-fabulous.html" target="_blank">GoldieBlox commercial</a> set to &#8220;Girls&#8221; by The Beastie Boys</li><li>[23:45] What stood out to Ilana about the commercial</li></ul></li><li><strong>Rapid-Fire Q&amp;A</strong><ul><li>[24:55] What hobbies make Ilana feel most creative</li><li>[25:02] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Learn/Common_questions/What_is_a_URL" target="_blank">URL</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="http://stinkyoga.com/" target="_blank">StinkYoga.com</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="http://honesteggs.com/" target="_blank">HonestEggs.com</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="http://schvitzcarlton.com/" target="_blank">SchvitzCarlton.com</a> (Sweat Equity)</li><li>[26:22] What Weird Talents does Ilana have</li><li>[26:36] Ilana&#8217;s <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://disney.fandom.com/wiki/Donald_Duck" target="_blank">Donald Duck</a> impression</li><li>[27:02] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.thebash.com/services/karaoke" target="_blank">Karaoke DJ</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.interaction-design.org/literature/topics/prototyping#:~:text=Prototyping%20is%20an%20experimental%20process,can%20release%20the%20right%20products." target="_blank">Toy Prototypes</a></li><li>[27:29] What is the most memorable reaction someone has had to a Twenty One Toys workshop</li><li>[28:49] <a href="https://www.thebalancecareers.com/what-is-an-employee-1918111#:~:text=An%20employee%20is%20an%20individual,to%20do%20a%20specific%20job.&amp;text=The%20terms%20of%20an%20individual's,not%20universal%20between%20all%20positions." target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Employees</a></li><li>[29:08] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://winnipeg.ca/" target="_blank">Winnipeg, Canada</a></li><li>[29:22] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twentyonetoys.com/pages/21leaders" target="_blank">21 Leaders</a></li><li>[31:02] Connect with Ilana at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twentyonetoys.com/" target="_blank">TwentyOneToys.com</a> and on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/21toys/" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/21toys" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.facebook.com/21Toys/" target="_blank">Facebook</a> at @21Toys and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/ilanabenari/" target="_blank">@IlanaBenAri</a></li><li>[31:23] What are Ilana&#8217;s final thoughts</li></ul><ul><li>[31:55]&nbsp;Subscribe to the <em style="color: var(--color); font-family: var(--fontFamily); font-size: var(--fontSize); font-weight: var(--fontWeight); letter-spacing: var(--letterSpacing); text-transform: var(--textTransform);"><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">Wild Business Growth Podcast</a></em><span style="color: var(--color); font-family: var(--fontFamily); font-size: var(--fontSize); font-style: var(--fontStyle, inherit); font-weight: var(--fontWeight); letter-spacing: var(--letterSpacing); text-transform: var(--textTransform);"> and tell a friend about the podcast</span></li></ul><ul><li>[32:06] Check out the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast&nbsp;</em>on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.goodpods.com/" target="_blank">GoodPods</a>, where you can see what your favorite people are listening to</li><li>[32:10] Connect with me on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/maxbranstetter/" target="_blank">Instagram</a>,&nbsp;<a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/max-branstetter-74150a57/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a> at @MaxBranstetter</li><li>[32:12] Save time with your high-quality podcast. Email me at <a href="mailto:ma&#120;&#64;&#109;&#97;x&#112;odca&#115;t&#105;n&#103;&#46;&#99;o&#109;">&#109;&#97;&#120;&#64;&#109;&#97;x&#112;&#111;&#100;ca&#115;&#116;&#105;&#110;g&#46;&#99;om</a> to bring your podcast to life and use it as a business-building tool</li></ul><ul><li>Theme music: Freestyle Percussion Magik &#8211; Jungle Tribe &#8211; provided by Jamendo</li></ul></li></ul>



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<h2><strong>How do you start a podcast?</strong></h2>



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