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					<description><![CDATA[Greg Fisher, the Kelley Professor of Entrepreneurship and Author of The Principles of Entrepreneurial Progress, joins the Wild Business Growth podcast to share his journey from accountant in South Africa to teaching the next generation of entrepreneurs at Indiana University (IU).]]></description>
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<p>Get (sh)it done. That&#8217;s the story of this week&#8217;s <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth</em></a> podcast guest, Greg Fisher. Greg is the Kelley Professor of Entrepreneurship and Author of <em>The Principles of Entrepreneurial Progress</em>. Listen to the episode on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wild-business-growth-podcast/id1422144338?mt=2" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6mSUsqYobBljhKIuK9sKJV" target="_blank">Spotify</a>, and your other favorite <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">podcast platforms</a>, and watch on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPJ7ovuCpHVg7SJchnF2BZg" target="_blank">YouTube</a>.</p>



<ul><li><a href="#episode-summary">Episode Summary &amp; Player</a></li><li><a href="#full-transcript">Full Transcript</a></li><li><a href="#show-notes">Show Notes</a></li><li><a href="#podcast-summary"><em>Wild Business Growth </em>podcast Summary</a></li></ul>



<h2 id="episode-summary">Episode 320: Greg Fisher – Kelley Entrepreneurship Professor, <em>The Principles of Entrepreneurial Progress</em></h2>



<p>Greg Fisher, the Kelley Professor of Entrepreneurship and Author of <em>The Principles of Entrepreneurial Progress</em>, joins the show to share his journey from accountant in South Africa to teaching the next generation of entrepreneurs at Indiana University (IU). Hear how to become a college professor, the mistakes many new entrepreneurs make, how to keep things simple as an entrepreneur, how to maintain a sense of urgency, and the moment Greg felt truly at home in Bloomington. This episode covers everything from simplicity to Indiana Football. Here&#8217;s a small sample of what you will hear in this episode:</p>



<ul><li>What appealed to Greg about the Kelley School of Business &amp; Indiana University</li><li>Where did the idea for <em>The Principles of Entrepreneurial Progress</em> come from</li><li>Sara Blakely</li><li>Hustle Culture</li><li>How do you grow your business</li><li>Why should you consider cycling</li><li>How do undergrad students compare to graduate students</li><li>Hoosier Gameday Lager</li></ul>



<p>Connect with Greg on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregcfisher/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a> and check out his book on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.amazon.com/Principles-Entrepreneurial-Progress-Momentum-Launching/dp/0197669824" target="_blank">Amazon</a>.</p>



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<p>Enjoy the shoooooow! Check out the show notes below for much more detail. You can also find the full transcript <a href="https://maxpodcasting.com/greg-fisher-transcript/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">here</a>.</p>



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<h2 id="show-notes"><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2>



<ul><li><strong>Intro, Learninglab, and Kelley Professor of Entrepreneurship</strong><ul><li>[0:28] Email me at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="mailto:max&#64;h&#105;p&#112;&#111;di&#114;ec&#116;&#46;com" target="_blank">m&#97;&#120;&#64;ma&#120;&#112;&#111;&#100;&#99;&#97;&#115;&#116;i&#110;&#103;&#46;com</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool</li></ul><ul><li>[0:40] Connect with Greg on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregcfisher/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a> and check out his book on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.amazon.com/Principles-Entrepreneurial-Progress-Momentum-Launching/dp/0197669824" target="_blank">Amazon</a></li><li>[1:44] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/blakesorensen" target="_blank">Blake Sorensen</a> – <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/blake-sorensen/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth</em> podcast #146</a>: Snack Tackler, Founder of <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.eatblakes.com/" target="_blank">Blake’s Seed Based</a></li><li>[2:51] What was <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregcfisher/" target="_blank">Learninglab</a></li><li>[3:05] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.up.ac.za/gibs-business-school" target="_blank">MBA</a> (Masters of Business Administration), <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www2.deloitte.com/" target="_blank">Deloitte</a></li><li>[5:35] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://kelley.iu.edu/programs/online/index.html" target="_blank">Kelley Direct Online MBA</a></li><li>[5:42] How do you become a college professor</li><li>[9:14] What appealed to Greg about the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://kelley.iu.edu/index.html" target="_blank">Kelley School of Business</a> (KSB) at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://bloomington.iu.edu/index.html" target="_blank">Indiana University</a> (IU)</li><li>[9:31] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.coursera.org/articles/what-does-phd-stand-for" target="_blank">PhD</a> (Doctor of Philosophy), <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://foster.uw.edu/academics/degree-programs/phd-program/" target="_blank">Foster School of Business</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.washington.edu/" target="_blank">University of Washington</a> (UW)</li><li>[9:59] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0413573/" target="_blank">Grey&#8217;s Anatomy</a></em>, <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108160/" target="_blank">Sleepless in Seattle</a></em>, <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106004/" target="_blank">Frasier</a></em></li><li>[10:28] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.visitbloomington.com/" target="_blank">College Town</a></li><li>[11:05] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.britannica.com/place/Johannesburg-South-Africa" target="_blank">Johannesburg</a>, South Africa</li><li>[12:38] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.visitbloomington.com/" target="_blank">Bloomington, IN</a></li><li>[13:08] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.visitbloomington.com/blog/stories/post/how-to-spend-a-day-on-kirkwood-avenue/" target="_blank">Kirkwood Ave</a></li></ul></li></ul>



<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-large is-resized"><img loading="lazy" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/SquadShot-Greg-Fisher-1024x538.png" alt="SquadShot Greg Fisher" class="wp-image-10167" width="668" height="351" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/SquadShot-Greg-Fisher-1024x538.png 1024w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/SquadShot-Greg-Fisher-400x210.png 400w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/SquadShot-Greg-Fisher-768x403.png 768w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/SquadShot-Greg-Fisher-500x263.png 500w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/SquadShot-Greg-Fisher-400x210@2x.png 800w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/SquadShot-Greg-Fisher.png 1200w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/SquadShot-Greg-Fisher-500x263@2x.png 1000w" sizes="(max-width: 668px) 100vw, 668px" /><figcaption>Greg!</figcaption></figure></div>



<ul><li><strong><em>The Principles of Entrepreneurial Progress</em></strong><ul><li>[14:09] Where did the idea for <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.amazon.com/Principles-Entrepreneurial-Progress-Momentum-Launching/dp/0197669824" target="_blank">The Principles of Entrepreneurial Progress</a></em> come from</li><li>[17:38] Shoutout, Dana!</li><li>[18:22] What&#8217;s something many new entrepreneurs struggle with</li><li>[19:33] Super App!</li><li>[20:48] How do you keep things simple as an entrepreneur aka S.I.M.P.L.E</li><li>[23:18] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KISS_principle" target="_blank">K.I.S.S.</a> </li><li>[23:25] What&#8217;s another principle of entrepreneurial progress</li><li>[24:46] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20230417-hustle-culture-is-this-the-end-of-rise-and-grind" target="_blank">Hustle Culture</a></li><li>[25:12] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.npr.org/series/490248027/how-i-built-this" target="_blank">How I Built This</a></em></li><li>[26:05] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/excel" target="_blank">Excel</a></li><li>[26:36] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="Sara Blakely" target="_blank">Spanx: Sara Blakely</a></li><li>[26:50] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.neimanmarcus.com/" target="_blank">Neiman Marcus</a></li><li>[28:13] Is urgency innate or does it have to be learned</li><li>[29:33] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.amazon.com/Liftoff-Desperate-Early-Launched-SpaceX/dp/0062979973" target="_blank">Liftoff</a></em> by Eric Berger</li><li>[31:19] How do you grow your business</li><li>[33:24] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://blog.hubspot.com/sales/prototyping" target="_blank">Prototype</a></li><li>[33:59] The <em>Wild Business Growth</em> podcast is on YouTube! <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/@maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Subscribe @MaxBranstetter</a> to watch full video interviews with Wild entrepreneurs like Greg</li></ul><ul><li>[34:00] Sign up for the <em>Podcasting to the Max</em> newsletter at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/newsletter/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/Newsletter</a> and receive <em>How to Edit Your Podcast in Audacity</em>. It&#8217;s where podcasting meets entrepreneurship &#8211; and terrible puns</li><li>[34:02] Such an honor speaking at Podcast Movement &#8217;23 in Denver! Sign up to grab the slides from my session at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/PM23/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/PM23</a></li></ul></li></ul>



<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-large is-resized"><img loading="lazy" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/The-Principles-of-Entrepreneurial-Progress-1.jpg" alt="Get The Principles of Entrepreneurial Progress by Greg Fisher on Amazon" class="wp-image-10170" width="295" height="443" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/The-Principles-of-Entrepreneurial-Progress-1.jpg 667w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/The-Principles-of-Entrepreneurial-Progress-1-267x400.jpg 267w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/The-Principles-of-Entrepreneurial-Progress-1-500x750.jpg 500w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/The-Principles-of-Entrepreneurial-Progress-1-267x400@2x.jpg 534w" sizes="(max-width: 295px) 100vw, 295px" /><figcaption>Get <em>The Principles of Entrepreneurial Progress</em> by Greg Fisher on <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Principles-Entrepreneurial-Progress-Momentum-Launching/dp/0197669824" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Amazon</a></figcaption></figure></div>



<ul><li><strong>Rapid-Fire Q&amp;A</strong><ul><li>[34:20] Why should you consider cycling</li><li>[34:42] How do undergrad students compare to graduate students</li><li>[35:23] How do you teach students online</li><li>[36:10] What does Greg miss about Johannesburg, South Africa</li><li>[36:35] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afrikaans" target="_blank">Afrikaans</a></li><li>[37:20] What was the moment Greg first felt truly at home in Bloomington</li><li>[39:03] Shoutout, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.mapquest.com/us/indiana/n-fee-ln-480196375" target="_blank">N Fee Ln</a></li><li>[39:25] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://uplandbeer.com/locations/bloomington/" target="_blank">Upland Brewing Co</a></li><li>[40:25] <a href="https://uplandbeer.com/featured/three-lil-pigs/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Three Lil&#8217; Pigs</a>, <a href="https://uplandbeer.com/beers/hoosier-gameday-lager/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Hoosier Gameday Lager</a></li><li>[40:42] <a href="https://iuhoosiers.com/sports/football" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Indiana Football</a></li><li>[41:19] Connect with Greg on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregcfisher/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a> and check out his book on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.amazon.com/Principles-Entrepreneurial-Progress-Momentum-Launching/dp/0197669824" target="_blank">Amazon</a></li></ul><ul><li>[42:53] What are Greg&#8217;s Final Thoughts</li></ul><ul><li>[43:25] Follow the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth</em></a> podcast and tell a friend about the podcast. And show love (or roast me) by leaving 5 stars on Apple Podcasts and/or Spotify</li></ul><ul><li>[43:34] The <em>Wild Business Growth</em> podcast is on YouTube! <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/@maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Subscribe @MaxBranstetter</a> to watch full video interviews with Wild entrepreneurs like Greg</li></ul><ul><li>[43:38] Check out the <em>Wild Business Growth</em> podcast<em> </em>on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.goodpods.com/" target="_blank">Goodpods</a>, where you can see what your favorite people are listening to</li><li>[43:41] Connect with me on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/max-branstetter-74150a57/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/maxbranstetter/" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Twitter</a> (aka <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/maxbranstetter" target="_blank">X</a>), and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.threads.net/@maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Threads</a> @MaxBranstetter and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.tiktok.com/@wildbusinessgrowth" target="_blank">TikTok</a> @WildBusinessGrowth</li></ul><ul><li>[43:43] Save time with your high-quality podcast. Email me at <a href="mailto:&#109;ax&#64;&#109;&#97;xpodcas&#116;in&#103;&#46;c&#111;&#109;">m&#97;x&#64;maxpo&#100;c&#97;s&#116;i&#110;&#103;.co&#109;</a> to bring your podcast to life and use it as a business-building tool</li><li>[43:48] Sign up for the <em>Podcasting to the Max</em> newsletter at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/newsletter/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/Newsletter</a> and receive <em>How to Edit Your Podcast in Audacity</em>. It&#8217;s where podcasting meets entrepreneurship &#8211; and terrible puns</li><li>Theme music: Freestyle Percussion Magik &#8211; &#8220;Jungle Tribe&#8221; &#8211; provided by Jamendo</li></ul></li></ul>



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<h2 id="podcast-summary"><strong>What is the <em>Wild Business Growth</em> podcast?</strong></h2>



<p>Wild ideas. Wild growth. Every Wednesday morning a new entrepreneur joins the <em>Wild Business Growth </em>podcast to share the wildly creative and unusual ways they grew their business &#8211; and teaches you how to do it, too. Hear the minds behind WordPress, Stacy&#8217;s Pita Chips, Drybar, NFL RedZone, Big Mouth Billy Bass, the voice of Bart Simpson, and more Wild stories. Hosted by <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/about/" target="_blank">Max Branstetter</a> (that&#8217;s me), Founder and Podcast Producer at MaxPodcasting.</p>



<h2><strong>How do you start a podcast?</strong></h2>



<p>Interested in starting a professional-sounding and professional-looking podcast for your brand, but don&#8217;t want to deal with the time commitment of all those behind-the-scenes details? I’ve got you covered. Email me at <a href="mailto:&#109;&#97;&#120;&#64;&#109;&#97;&#120;&#112;od&#99;&#97;&#115;ting&#46;&#99;o&#109;">&#109;a&#120;&#64;m&#97;&#120;&#112;o&#100;c&#97;st&#105;&#110;g&#46;&#99;&#111;&#109;</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool.</p>



<p>Thanks for listening to Greg Fisher on the <em>Wild Business Growth</em> podcast.<em> </em>To hear more Wild stories like this one every Wednesday morning, follow the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth</em></a> podcast and tell a friend about it. And read <em>The Principles of Entrepreneurial Progress</em> with them. Until next time, Let your business Run Wild&#8230;and <strong><em>Bring on the Bongos!!</em></strong></p>
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