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					<description><![CDATA[Ben Lamm, the Founder &#038; CEO of Colossal Biosciences, joins the Wild Business Growth podcast to share his journey from 5 successful exits to creating the company trying to de-extinct the woolly mammoth.]]></description>
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<p>Bringing back woolly mammoths. That&#8217;s the story of this week&#8217;s <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth</em></a>&nbsp;podcast guest, Ben Lamm. Ben is the Founder &amp; CEO of Colossal Biosciences. Listen to the episode on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wild-business-growth-podcast/id1422144338?mt=2" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6mSUsqYobBljhKIuK9sKJV" target="_blank">Spotify</a>, and your other favorite <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">podcast platforms</a>, and watch on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPJ7ovuCpHVg7SJchnF2BZg" target="_blank">YouTube</a>.</p>



<ul><li><a href="#episode-summary">Episode Summary &amp; Player</a></li><li><a href="#full-transcript">Full Transcript</a></li><li><a href="#show-notes">Show Notes</a></li><li><a href="#podcast-summary"><em>Wild Business Growth </em>podcast Summary</a></li></ul>



<h2 id="episode-summary">Episode 356: Ben Lamm &#8211; Woolly Mammoth De-Extinction, Colossal Biosciences</h2>



<p>Ben Lamm, the Founder &amp; CEO of Colossal Biosciences, joins the show to share his journey from 5 successful exits to creating the company trying to de-extinct the woolly mammoth. Hear how to become a serial entrepreneur, the impact of bringing back woolly mammoths, whether the world is ready for de-extinction, mind-blowing aspects of genetics &amp; DNA, and the other species Ben wants to bring back.&nbsp;This episode covers everything from the dire wolf to artificial wombs. Here&#8217;s a small sample of what you will hear in this episode:</p>



<ul><li>What is mass extinction</li><li>How would woolly mammoths help the environment</li><li>What needs to happen to bring back the woolly mammoth</li><li>Big Hairy Audacious Goals</li><li>What would Ben&#8217;s college-aged Accounting-studying self think about present day Ben</li></ul>



<p>Connect with Ben at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://colossal.com/" target="_blank">Colossal.com</a>, on X <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://x.com/colossal" target="_blank">@Colossal</a>, and on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/benlamm/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a>.</p>



<h2 id="full-transcript"></h2>



<p>Enjoy the shoooooow! Check out the show notes below for much more detail. You can also find the full transcript <a href="https://maxpodcasting.com/ben-lamm-transcript/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">here</a>.</p>



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<ul><li><strong>Intro &amp; Serial Entrepreneurship</strong><ul><li>[0:28] Email me at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="mailto:&#109;ax&#64;hip&#112;od&#105;&#114;e&#99;t&#46;c&#111;m" target="_blank">&#109;ax&#64;m&#97;x&#112;&#111;dc&#97;&#115;ti&#110;g&#46;&#99;o&#109;</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool</li></ul><ul><li>[0:39] Connect with Ben at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://colossal.com/" target="_blank">Colossal.com</a>, on X <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://x.com/colossal" target="_blank">@Colossal</a>, and on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/benlamm/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a></li><li>[2:22] How do you have successful exits as an <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">entrepreneur</a></li><li>[4:38] How do you become a <a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/tomchavez/2023/07/25/what-it-takes-to-be-a-successful-serial-entrepreneur/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">serial entrepreneur</a> </li></ul></li></ul>



<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-large is-resized"><img loading="lazy" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/SquadShot-Ben-Lamm-1024x538.png" alt="SquadShot Ben Lamm" class="wp-image-11496" width="689" height="362" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/SquadShot-Ben-Lamm-1024x538.png 1024w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/SquadShot-Ben-Lamm-400x210.png 400w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/SquadShot-Ben-Lamm-768x403.png 768w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/SquadShot-Ben-Lamm-500x263.png 500w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/SquadShot-Ben-Lamm-400x210@2x.png 800w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/SquadShot-Ben-Lamm.png 1200w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/SquadShot-Ben-Lamm-500x263@2x.png 1000w" sizes="(max-width: 689px) 100vw, 689px" /><figcaption>Ben &amp; friends</figcaption></figure></div>



<ul><li><strong>The Colossal Biosciences Story</strong><ul><li>[5:32] Betty Brennan – <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/betty-brennan/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth</em> podcast #116</a>: Museum Experience Mogul, Founder of <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://taylorstudios.com/" target="_blank">Taylor Studios</a></li><li>[6:26] What is <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://colossal.com/" target="_blank">Colossal Biosciences</a></li><li>[6:45] What is <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://colossal.com/de-extinction/" target="_blank">mass extinction</a></li><li>[9:35] How would <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://colossal.com/mammoth/" target="_blank">woolly mammoths</a> help the environment</li><li>[11:33] Is the world ready for <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://colossal.com/de-extinction/" target="_blank">de-extinction</a></li><li>[14:26] How does de-extinction work</li><li>[18:38] How similar is the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://colossal.com/direwolf/" target="_blank">dire wolf</a> to the gray wolf</li><li>[21:28] What needs to happen to bring back the woolly mammoth</li><li>[23:09] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://colossal.com/george-church/" target="_blank">George Church</a></li><li>[23:25] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/b/big-hairy-audacious-goal-bhag.asp" target="_blank">Big Hairy Audacious Goals</a> (BHAG)</li><li>[23:38] The <em>Wild Business Growth</em> podcast is on YouTube! <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/@maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Subscribe @MaxBranstetter</a> to watch full video interviews with Wild entrepreneurs like Ben every Friday</li></ul><ul><li>[23:40] Sign up for the <em>Podcasting to the Max</em> newsletter at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/newsletter/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/Newsletter</a> and receive <em>How to Edit Your Podcast in Audacity</em>. It&#8217;s where podcasting meets entrepreneurship &#8211; and terrible puns</li><li>[23:41] Such an honor speaking at Podcast Movement &#8217;23 in Denver! Sign up to grab the slides from my session at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/PM23/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/PM23</a></li></ul></li></ul>



<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-large is-resized"><img loading="lazy" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/Dire-Wolf-1024x781.jpg" alt="Dire Wolf" class="wp-image-11498" width="609" height="464" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/Dire-Wolf-1024x781.jpg 1024w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/Dire-Wolf-400x305.jpg 400w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/Dire-Wolf-768x586.jpg 768w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/Dire-Wolf-500x382.jpg 500w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/Dire-Wolf-400x305@2x.jpg 800w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/Dire-Wolf-1280x977.jpg 1280w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/Dire-Wolf-1920x1465.jpg 1920w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/Dire-Wolf-768x586@2x.jpg 1536w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/Dire-Wolf-1024x781@2x.jpg 2048w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/Dire-Wolf-500x382@2x.jpg 1000w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/Dire-Wolf-800x610@2x.jpg 1600w" sizes="(max-width: 609px) 100vw, 609px" /><figcaption>The Dire Wolf</figcaption></figure></div>



<ul><li><strong>Rapid-Fire Q&amp;A</strong><ul><li>[23:48] What&#8217;s something surprising about <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://colossal.com/de-extinction/" target="_blank">genetics</a> &amp; DNA</li><li>[24:52] What other animals does Ben want to <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://colossal.com/species/" target="_blank">de-extinct</a></li><li>[25:31] What would his college-aged <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://admissions.web.baylor.edu/degrees/accounting" target="_blank">Accounting</a>-studying self think about present day Ben</li><li>[26:07] Connect with Ben at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://colossal.com/" target="_blank">Colossal.com</a>, on X <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://x.com/colossal" target="_blank">@Colossal</a>, and on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/benlamm/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a></li></ul><ul><li>[26:25] What are Ben&#8217;s Final Thoughts</li></ul><ul><li>[27:10] Follow the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth</em></a> podcast and tell a friend about the podcast. And show love (or roast me) by leaving 5 stars on Apple Podcasts and/or Spotify</li></ul><ul><li>[27:17] The <em>Wild Business Growth</em> podcast is on YouTube! <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/@maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Subscribe @MaxBranstetter</a> to watch full video interviews with Wild entrepreneurs like Ben</li></ul><ul><li>[27:26] Check out the <em>Wild Business Growth</em> podcast<em> </em>on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.goodpods.com/" target="_blank">Goodpods</a>, where you can see what your favorite people are listening to</li><li>[27:27] Connect with me on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/max-branstetter-74150a57/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/maxbranstetter/" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Twitter</a> (aka <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/maxbranstetter" target="_blank">X</a>), and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.threads.net/@maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Threads</a> @MaxBranstetter and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.tiktok.com/@wildbusinessgrowth" target="_blank">TikTok</a> @WildBusinessGrowth</li></ul><ul><li>[27:28] Save time with your high-quality podcast. Email me at <a href="mailto:&#109;&#97;x&#64;ma&#120;&#112;&#111;&#100;&#99;&#97;s&#116;ing&#46;c&#111;m">m&#97;x&#64;&#109;&#97;x&#112;&#111;&#100;&#99;&#97;s&#116;&#105;&#110;&#103;&#46;&#99;&#111;m</a> to bring your podcast to life and use it as a business-building tool</li><li>[27:29] Sign up for the <em>Podcasting to the Max</em> newsletter at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/newsletter/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/Newsletter</a> and receive <em>How to Edit Your Podcast in Audacity</em>. It&#8217;s where podcasting meets entrepreneurship &#8211; and terrible puns</li><li>Theme music: Freestyle Percussion Magik &#8211; &#8220;Jungle Tribe&#8221; &#8211; provided by Jamendo</li></ul></li></ul>



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<h2 id="podcast-summary"><strong>What is the <em>Wild Business Growth</em> podcast?</strong></h2>



<p>Wild ideas. Wild growth. Every Wednesday morning a new entrepreneur joins the <em>Wild Business Growth </em>podcast to share the wildly creative and unusual ways they grew their business &#8211; and teaches you how to do it, too. Hear the minds behind WordPress, Stacy&#8217;s Pita Chips, Drybar, NFL RedZone, Big Mouth Billy Bass, the voice of Bart Simpson, and more Wild stories. Hosted by <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/about/" target="_blank">Max Branstetter</a> (that&#8217;s me), Founder and Podcast Producer at MaxPodcasting.</p>



<h2><strong>How do you start a podcast?</strong></h2>



<p>Interested in starting a professional-sounding and professional-looking podcast for your brand, but don&#8217;t want to deal with the time commitment of all those behind-the-scenes details? I’ve got you covered. Email me at <a href="mailto:max&#64;ma&#120;&#112;odc&#97;&#115;t&#105;&#110;g.com">m&#97;&#120;&#64;&#109;&#97;&#120;&#112;&#111;&#100;ca&#115;ti&#110;&#103;&#46;&#99;&#111;&#109;</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool.</p>



<p>Thanks for listening to Ben Lamm on the <em>Wild Business Growth</em> podcast.<em> </em>To hear more Wild stories like this one every Wednesday morning, follow the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth</em></a> podcast and tell a friend about it. And talk about your favorite Late Pleistocene species with them. Until next time, Let your business Run Wild&#8230;and <strong><em>Bring on the Bongos!!</em></strong></p>
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		<title>Ken Gavranovic &#8211; Wild Business Growth Podcast #328: Growing Your Business, Product Genius</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Max Branstetter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2025 00:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ken Gavranovic, the Serial Entrepreneur and Board Member of Product Genius, joins the Wild Business Growth podcast to share his journey from growing up poor to leading several exits.]]></description>
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<p>Take the risk. That&#8217;s the story of this week&#8217;s <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth</em></a>&nbsp;podcast guest, Ken Gavranovic. Ken is the Serial Entrepreneur and Board Member of Product Genius. Listen to the episode on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wild-business-growth-podcast/id1422144338?mt=2" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6mSUsqYobBljhKIuK9sKJV" target="_blank">Spotify</a>, and your other favorite <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">podcast platforms</a>, and watch on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPJ7ovuCpHVg7SJchnF2BZg" target="_blank">YouTube</a>.</p>



<ul><li><a href="#episode-summary">Episode Summary &amp; Player</a></li><li><a href="#full-transcript">Full Transcript</a></li><li><a href="#show-notes">Show Notes</a></li><li><a href="#podcast-summary"><em>Wild Business Growth </em>podcast Summary</a></li></ul>



<h2 id="episode-summary">Episode 328: Ken Gavranovic – Growing Your Business, Product Genius</h2>



<p>Ken Gavranovic, the Serial Entrepreneur and Board Member of Product Genius, joins the show to share his journey from growing up poor to leading several exits. Hear the 80’s movie that rocked his world, how to lead your company toward IPO, how to best spend your time as an entrepreneur, how to start a business in the AI space, and how improv helps you as a business owner.&nbsp;This episode covers everything from Dial-up Internet to skydiving. Here&#8217;s a small sample of what you will hear in this episode:</p>



<ul><li>What was the Internet like when Ken started Web.com</li><li>How do you IPO</li><li>Cricket Business 🙂</li><li>What&#8217;s the best indicator of business success</li><li>How did Ken fly a fighter jet</li></ul>



<p>Connect with Ken at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://kengavranovic.com/" target="_blank">KenGavranovic.com</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://productgenius.guru/" target="_blank">ProductGenius.Guru</a>, and on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/gavranovic" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a>.</p>



<h2 id="full-transcript"></h2>



<p>Enjoy the shoooooow! Check out the show notes below for much more detail. You can also find the full transcript <a href="https://maxpodcasting.com/ken-gavranovic-transcript/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">here</a>.</p>



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<h2 id="show-notes"><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2>



<ul><li><strong>Intro &amp; Web.com</strong><ul><li>[0:30] Email me at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="mailto:m&#97;x&#64;hi&#112;podir&#101;&#99;t.&#99;om" target="_blank">ma&#120;&#64;m&#97;x&#112;o&#100;c&#97;&#115;t&#105;n&#103;.co&#109;</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool</li></ul><ul><li>[0:40] Connect with Ken at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://kengavranovic.com/" target="_blank">KenGavranovic.com</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://productgenius.guru/" target="_blank">ProductGenius.Guru</a>, and on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/gavranovic" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a></li><li>[2:08] How did the movie <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086567/" target="_blank">WarGames</a></em> inspire Ken </li><li>[3:35] What was his favorite part of the movie</li><li>[4:36] What was the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.britannica.com/technology/Internet" target="_blank">Internet</a> like when he started <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.web.com/" target="_blank">Web.com</a></li><li>[5:18] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://stockx.com/" target="_blank">StockX</a></li><li>[5:33] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/glossary/dialup/?srsltid=AfmBOopwSrVWHGsSY6nZ0Ak0ZaYAn0fQQUDNlt7FB8tBLCVEPgeMFToK" target="_blank">Dial-up Internet</a></li><li>[5:38] Shoutout, Barb &amp; Fred!</li><li>[6:56] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/revenue.asp" target="_blank">Revenue</a></li><li>[7:58] How do you <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/ipos" target="_blank">IPO</a> (Initial Public Offering)</li><li>[9:08] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/v/venturecapital.asp" target="_blank">VC</a> (Venture Capital) </li></ul></li></ul>



<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-large is-resized"><img loading="lazy" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/SquadShot-Ken-Gavranovic-1024x538.png" alt="SquadShot Ken Gavranovic" class="wp-image-10445" width="740" height="389" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/SquadShot-Ken-Gavranovic-1024x538.png 1024w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/SquadShot-Ken-Gavranovic-400x210.png 400w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/SquadShot-Ken-Gavranovic-768x403.png 768w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/SquadShot-Ken-Gavranovic-500x263.png 500w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/SquadShot-Ken-Gavranovic-400x210@2x.png 800w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/SquadShot-Ken-Gavranovic.png 1200w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/SquadShot-Ken-Gavranovic-500x263@2x.png 1000w" sizes="(max-width: 740px) 100vw, 740px" /><figcaption>Kenny G</figcaption></figure></div>



<ul><li><strong>Growing Your Business</strong><ul><li>[10:41] How do you grow your business</li><li>[12:16] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.f6s.com/companies/cricket/mo" target="_blank">Cricket Business</a> 🙂</li><li>[13:12] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/billgurley" target="_blank">Bill Gurley</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.benchmark.com/" target="_blank">Benchmark</a>, <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11173006/" target="_blank">Super Pumped</a></em></li><li>[14:08] What&#8217;s the best indicator of business success</li><li>[15:25] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.tiktok.com/@binge/video/7304943526926699783?lang=en" target="_blank">Rich Mahogany</a> from <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0357413/" target="_blank">Anchorman</a></em></li><li>[17:04] What&#8217;s an example of great timing</li><li>[17:24] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.mckinsey.com/featured-insights/mckinsey-explainers/what-is-generative-ai" target="_blank">Generative AI</a> aka Gen AI aka Artificial Intelligence</li><li>[17:52] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://claude.ai/" target="_blank">Claude</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://chatgpt.com/" target="_blank">ChatGPT</a></li><li>[18:02] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.productplan.com/glossary/product-market-fit/" target="_blank">Product-Market Fit</a></li><li>[18:42] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://markcubancompanies.com/" target="_blank">Mark Cuban</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadcast.com" target="_blank">Broadcast.com</a></li><li>[19:12] How do you best spend your time as a business owner</li><li>[21:16] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.whatmatters.com/faqs/okr-meaning-definition-example" target="_blank">OKRs</a> (Objectives and Key Results)</li><li>[21:55] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://newrelic.com/" target="_blank">New Relic</a> </li><li>[23:05] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://aws.amazon.com/what-is/api/" target="_blank">API</a> (Application Programming Interface), <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://kubernetes.io/" target="_blank">Kubernetes</a></li><li>[25:15] What is <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://productgenius.guru/" target="_blank">Product Genius</a></li><li>[26:12] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2022/11/taylor-swift-ticketmaster-presale-concert-tickets/672181/" target="_blank">How Taylor Swift Broke Ticketmaster</a></li><li>[28:14] How do you start a business in the AI space</li><li>[30:07] The <em>Wild Business Growth</em> podcast is on YouTube! <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/@maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Subscribe @MaxBranstetter</a> to watch full video interviews with Wild entrepreneurs like Ken</li></ul><ul><li>[30:08] Sign up for the <em>Podcasting to the Max</em> newsletter at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/newsletter/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/Newsletter</a> and receive <em>How to Edit Your Podcast in Audacity</em>. It&#8217;s where podcasting meets entrepreneurship &#8211; and terrible puns</li><li>[30:10] Such an honor speaking at Podcast Movement &#8217;23 in Denver! Sign up to grab the slides from my session at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/PM23/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/PM23</a></li></ul></li></ul>



<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-large is-resized"><img loading="lazy" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/Product-Genius-logo-1024x195.png" alt="Product Genius" class="wp-image-10451" width="668" height="126" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/Product-Genius-logo-1024x195.png 1024w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/Product-Genius-logo-400x76.png 400w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/Product-Genius-logo-768x146.png 768w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/Product-Genius-logo-500x95.png 500w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/Product-Genius-logo-400x76@2x.png 800w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/Product-Genius-logo.png 1050w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/Product-Genius-logo-500x95@2x.png 1000w" sizes="(max-width: 668px) 100vw, 668px" /></figure></div>



<ul><li><strong>The Unusual: Pet Peeves, Quirks, and Weird Talents</strong><ul><li>[30:33] What&#8217;s a Weird Talent Ken has</li><li>[31:12] What&#8217;s a quirk he has</li><li>[32:12] How does <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Improvisational_theatre" target="_blank">improv</a> help you in business</li><li>[32:42] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.rapp.com/" target="_blank">RAPP</a></li><li>[33:47] What&#8217;s Ken&#8217;s biggest pet peeve</li><li>[34:12] How did he fly a fighter jet</li></ul></li><li><strong>Rapid-Fire Q&amp;A</strong><ul><li>[35:12] What&#8217;s Ken&#8217;s favorite <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.tamu.edu/campus-community/traditions/index.html" target="_blank">Aggie tradition</a> at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.tamu.edu/index.html" target="_blank">Texas A&amp;M University</a></li><li>[35:42] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Manziel" target="_blank">Johnny Manziel</a>, <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81582385" target="_blank">Untold: Johnny Football</a></em></li><li>[35:47] What&#8217;s the most underrated part of living in <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://discoveratlanta.com/" target="_blank">Atlanta</a></li><li>[36:05] Hawaiian Chick-fil-A aka <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.chick-fil-a.com/about/s-truett-cathy-brand-restaurants/truetts-luau" target="_blank">Truett&#8217;s Luau</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.chick-fil-a.com/about/s-truett-cathy-brand-restaurants/dwarf-house" target="_blank">Dwarf House</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/cjgvte/went_to_the_chickfila_back_office_tour_they_have/" target="_blank">Chick-fil-A Batmobile</a></li><li>[36:51] How often does Ken get called <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.kennyg.com/" target="_blank">Kenny G</a></li><li>[37:18] What did he learn about money from growing up poor</li><li>[38:22] Connect with Ken at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://kengavranovic.com/" target="_blank">KenGavranovic.com</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://productgenius.guru/" target="_blank">ProductGenius.Guru</a>, and on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/gavranovic" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a></li></ul><ul><li>[39:07] What are Ken&#8217;s Final Thoughts</li></ul><ul><li>[40:04] Follow the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth</em></a> podcast and tell a friend about the podcast. And show love (or roast me) by leaving 5 stars on Apple Podcasts and/or Spotify</li></ul><ul><li>[40:08] The <em>Wild Business Growth</em> podcast is on YouTube! <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/@maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Subscribe @MaxBranstetter</a> to watch full video interviews with Wild entrepreneurs like Ken</li></ul><ul><li>[40:10] Check out the <em>Wild Business Growth</em> podcast<em> </em>on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.goodpods.com/" target="_blank">Goodpods</a>, where you can see what your favorite people are listening to</li><li>[40:16] Connect with me on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/max-branstetter-74150a57/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/maxbranstetter/" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Twitter</a> (aka <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/maxbranstetter" target="_blank">X</a>), and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.threads.net/@maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Threads</a> @MaxBranstetter and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.tiktok.com/@wildbusinessgrowth" target="_blank">TikTok</a> @WildBusinessGrowth</li></ul><ul><li>[40:19] Save time with your high-quality podcast. Email me at <a href="mailto:m&#97;&#120;&#64;m&#97;x&#112;&#111;d&#99;&#97;&#115;ting&#46;c&#111;&#109;">&#109;&#97;x&#64;ma&#120;&#112;&#111;dc&#97;st&#105;ng&#46;c&#111;&#109;</a> to bring your podcast to life and use it as a business-building tool</li><li>[40:21] Sign up for the <em>Podcasting to the Max</em> newsletter at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/newsletter/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/Newsletter</a> and receive <em>How to Edit Your Podcast in Audacity</em>. It&#8217;s where podcasting meets entrepreneurship &#8211; and terrible puns</li><li>Theme music: Freestyle Percussion Magik &#8211; &#8220;Jungle Tribe&#8221; &#8211; provided by Jamendo</li></ul></li></ul>



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<h2 id="podcast-summary"><strong>What is the <em>Wild Business Growth</em> podcast?</strong></h2>



<p>Wild ideas. Wild growth. Every Wednesday morning a new entrepreneur joins the <em>Wild Business Growth </em>podcast to share the wildly creative and unusual ways they grew their business &#8211; and teaches you how to do it, too. Hear the minds behind WordPress, Stacy&#8217;s Pita Chips, Drybar, NFL RedZone, Big Mouth Billy Bass, the voice of Bart Simpson, and more Wild stories. Hosted by <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/about/" target="_blank">Max Branstetter</a> (that&#8217;s me), Founder and Podcast Producer at MaxPodcasting.</p>



<h2><strong>How do you start a podcast?</strong></h2>



<p>Interested in starting a professional-sounding and professional-looking podcast for your brand, but don&#8217;t want to deal with the time commitment of all those behind-the-scenes details? I’ve got you covered. Email me at <a href="mailto:&#109;&#97;x&#64;ma&#120;&#112;o&#100;&#99;ast&#105;&#110;g.com">&#109;ax&#64;&#109;&#97;xpodc&#97;&#115;t&#105;&#110;&#103;.com</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool.</p>



<p>Thanks for listening to Ken Gavranovic on the <em>Wild Business Growth</em> podcast.<em> </em>To hear more Wild stories like this one every Wednesday morning, follow the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth</em></a> podcast and tell a friend about it. And take some risks. Until next time, Let your business Run Wild&#8230;and <strong><em>Bring on the Bongos!!</em></strong></p>
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