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					<description><![CDATA[Alan Kraft &#038; Jim Kabakow, the Co-Founders &#038; Managing Partners of Bin 113, join the Wild Business Growth podcast to share their journey from starting, growing, and selling Media Horizons to building the wine marketing company for wineries in all 50 states.]]></description>
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<p>Have fun. That&#8217;s the story of this week&#8217;s <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth</em></a> podcast guests, Alan Kraft &amp; Jim Kabakow. Alan &amp; Jim are the Co-Founders &amp; Managing Partners of Bin 113. Listen to the episode on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wild-business-growth-podcast/id1422144338?mt=2" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6mSUsqYobBljhKIuK9sKJV" target="_blank">Spotify</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPJ7ovuCpHVg7SJchnF2BZg" target="_blank">YouTube</a>, and your other favorite <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">podcast platforms</a>.</p>



<ul><li><a href="#episode-summary">Episode Summary &amp; Player</a></li><li><a href="#full-transcript">Full Transcript</a></li><li><a href="#show-notes">Show Notes</a></li><li><a href="#podcast-summary"><em>Wild Business Growth </em>podcast Summary</a></li></ul>



<h2 id="episode-summary">Episode 319: Alan Kraft &amp; Jim Kabakow – Media Horizons, Bin 113, <em>Wine Across America</em></h2>



<p>Alan Kraft &amp; Jim Kabakow, the Co-Founders &amp; Managing Partners of Bin 113, join the show to share their journey from starting, growing, and selling Media Horizons to building the wine marketing company for wineries in all 50 states. Hear how to start a marketing agency, how to add more services to your business, how to sell your business, the marketing opportunity for wineries in the US, and Alan &amp; Jim’s favorite wine regions outside the US. This episode covers everything from expensive wine to the Super Bowl. Here&#8217;s a small sample of what you will hear in this episode:</p>



<ul><li>Why are Alan &amp; Jim so passionate about wine</li><li>Where did the idea to start your own marketing agency come from</li><li>How do you find your first clients</li><li>What is Bin 113</li><li>Sandra Guibord</li><li>The Law of Syllogism</li><li>What&#8217;s Alan&#8217;s favorite wine story about Jim</li><li>College Baseball</li></ul>



<p>Connect with <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/alan-kraft-3a2b641" target="_blank">Alan</a> &amp; <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jim-kabakow-8239493" target="_blank">Jim</a> on LinkedIn, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://bin113.com/" target="_blank">Bin113.com</a>, and check out <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/@WineAcrossAmerica" target="_blank"><em>Wine Across America</em></a>.</p>



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<p>Enjoy the shoooooow! Check out the show notes below for much more detail. You can also find the full transcript <a href="https://maxpodcasting.com/alan-kraft-jim-kabakow-transcript/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">here</a>.</p>



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<h2 id="show-notes"><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2>



<ul><li><strong>Intro &amp; Wine</strong><ul><li>[0:26] Email me at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="mailto:&#109;&#97;x&#64;&#104;&#105;pp&#111;&#100;&#105;&#114;&#101;c&#116;.&#99;om" target="_blank">ma&#120;&#64;m&#97;xpo&#100;&#99;a&#115;ting&#46;co&#109;</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool</li></ul><ul><li>[0:35] Connect with <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/alan-kraft-3a2b641" target="_blank">Alan</a> &amp; <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jim-kabakow-8239493" target="_blank">Jim</a> on LinkedIn, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://bin113.com/" target="_blank">Bin113.com</a>, and check out <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/@WineAcrossAmerica" target="_blank"><em>Wine Across America</em></a></li><li>[3:08] Why are Alan &amp; Jim so passionate about wine</li></ul></li></ul>



<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-large is-resized"><img loading="lazy" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/SquadShot-Alan-Kraft-Jim-Kabakow-1024x538.png" alt="SquadShot Alan Kraft Jim Kabakow" class="wp-image-10124" width="698" height="367" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/SquadShot-Alan-Kraft-Jim-Kabakow-1024x538.png 1024w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/SquadShot-Alan-Kraft-Jim-Kabakow-400x210.png 400w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/SquadShot-Alan-Kraft-Jim-Kabakow-768x403.png 768w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/SquadShot-Alan-Kraft-Jim-Kabakow-500x263.png 500w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/SquadShot-Alan-Kraft-Jim-Kabakow-400x210@2x.png 800w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/SquadShot-Alan-Kraft-Jim-Kabakow.png 1200w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/SquadShot-Alan-Kraft-Jim-Kabakow-500x263@2x.png 1000w" sizes="(max-width: 698px) 100vw, 698px" /><figcaption>Bin 113 meets Branstetter</figcaption></figure></div>



<ul><li><strong>The Media Horizons Story</strong><ul><li>[6:24] Where did the idea to start your own <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.mediahorizons.com/" target="_blank">marketing agency</a> come from</li><li>[8:08] What got Jim to join <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.mediahorizons.com/" target="_blank">Media Horizons</a></li><li>[8:33] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/a/angelinvestor.asp" target="_blank">Angel Investors</a></li><li>[8:58] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.britannica.com/technology/Internet" target="_blank">Internet</a></li><li>[9:31] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://corporatefinanceinstitute.com/resources/career/what-is-a-ceo-chief-executive-officer/" target="_blank">CEO</a> (Chief Executive Officer)</li><li>[11:00] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wall_Street" target="_blank">Wall Street</a></li><li>[11:10] How do you find your first clients</li><li>[12:38] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.ibm.com/history/selectric" target="_blank">IBM Selectric Typewriter</a></li><li>[14:32] How do you add more services to your business</li><li>[15:49] How did Alan &amp; Jim grow Media Horizons</li><li>[16:39] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.zoom.com/" target="_blank">Zoom</a></li><li>[17:41] How do you sell your business</li><li>[19:27] The <em>Wild Business Growth</em> podcast is on YouTube! <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/@maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Subscribe @MaxBranstetter</a> to watch full video interviews with Wild entrepreneurs like Alan &amp; Jim</li></ul><ul><li>[19:28] Sign up for the <em>Podcasting to the Max</em> newsletter at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/newsletter/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/Newsletter</a> and receive <em>How to Edit Your Podcast in Audacity</em>. It&#8217;s where podcasting meets entrepreneurship &#8211; and terrible puns</li><li>[19:30] Such an honor speaking at Podcast Movement &#8217;23 in Denver! Sign up to grab the slides from my session at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/PM23/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/PM23</a></li></ul></li></ul>



<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-large is-resized"><img loading="lazy" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Wine-Across-America-working-cover-art-1024x1024.jpg" alt="Wine Across America" class="wp-image-10127" width="550" height="550" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Wine-Across-America-working-cover-art-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Wine-Across-America-working-cover-art-200x200@2x.jpg 400w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Wine-Across-America-working-cover-art-200x200.jpg 200w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Wine-Across-America-working-cover-art-768x768.jpg 768w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Wine-Across-America-working-cover-art-500x500.jpg 500w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Wine-Across-America-working-cover-art-400x400@2x.jpg 800w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Wine-Across-America-working-cover-art-1280x1280.jpg 1280w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Wine-Across-America-working-cover-art-1920x1920.jpg 1920w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Wine-Across-America-working-cover-art-768x768@2x.jpg 1536w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Wine-Across-America-working-cover-art-1024x1024@2x.jpg 2048w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Wine-Across-America-working-cover-art-500x500@2x.jpg 1000w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Wine-Across-America-working-cover-art-800x800@2x.jpg 1600w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Wine-Across-America-working-cover-art-1280x1280@2x.jpg 2560w" sizes="(max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px" /><figcaption>Follow or Subscribe to <em>Wine Across America</em> on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/@WineAcrossAmerica" target="_blank">YouTube</a> &amp; <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wine-across-america/id1789229751" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a> &amp; <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/1EHG1gY6o0byZn5FreGJb6?si=6de5093c5ebf497e" target="_blank">Spotify</a></figcaption></figure></div>



<ul><li><strong>The Bin 113 Story &amp; <em>Wine Across America</em></strong><ul><li>[20:44] Why is wine an appealing industry to work in</li><li>[21:33] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.airfieldwines.com/" target="_blank">Airfield Estates</a></li><li>[22:38] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://wineryatbullrun.com/" target="_blank">The Winery at Bull Run</a></li><li>[23:15] What does Jim love about the wine business</li><li>[23:28] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.wsetglobal.com/" target="_blank">Wine &amp; Spirit Educational Trust</a> (WSET)</li><li>[25:38] How do you get the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.wsetglobal.com/qualifications/wset-level-2-award-in-wines/" target="_blank">WSET Level 2 Award in Wines</a></li><li>[26:34] How big is the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.reddit.com/r/WSET/comments/1ai9fuq/level_2_pin_and_specific_grade/" target="_blank">WSET Level 2 Pin</a></li><li>[26:54] What is <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://bin113.com/" target="_blank">Bin 113</a></li><li>[28:52] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://bin113.com/about-us/" target="_blank">Jeff Giordano</a></li><li>[31:07] What is <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/@WineAcrossAmerica" target="_blank">Wine Across America</a></em></li><li>[31:15] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/sandraswinelife/?hl=en" target="_blank">Sandra Guibord</a></li><li>[31:37] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.cuemath.com/data/law-of-syllogism/" target="_blank">The Law of Syllogism</a></li><li>[32:38] &#8220;<a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://youtu.be/sNhVZQVKYnk?si=qxzeHmoZxYLzE5He" target="_blank">Virginia – The Birthplace of Wine in America</a>&#8220;</li><li>[33:42] Subscribe to <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/@WineAcrossAmerica" target="_blank"><em>Wine Across America</em></a> on YouTube</li></ul></li><li><strong>Rapid-Fire Q&amp;A</strong><ul><li>[35:09] What&#8217;s Alan&#8217;s favorite wine story about Jim</li><li>[37:02] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Simms" target="_blank">Phil Simms</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armen_Keteyian" target="_blank">Armen Keteyian</a></li><li>[37:44] What position did Jim play in baseball</li><li>[38:02] What&#8217;s the difference in competition level between high school baseball &amp; college baseball</li><li>[39:18] &#8220;<a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/alan-kraft-founder-and-chief-revenue-officer-of/id1497620836?i=1000562392100" target="_blank">Alan Kraft &#8211; Founder and Chief Revenue Officer of Media Horizons</a>&#8221; on <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-marketing-playbook-with-mark-friedman/id1497620836" target="_blank">The Marketing Playbook with Mark Friedman</a></em></li><li>[39:31] What&#8217;s the craziest <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.nfl.com/super-bowl/" target="_blank">Super Bowl</a> Alan has been to</li><li>[41:03] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.britannica.com/place/Burgundy" target="_blank">Burgundy, France</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.beaune-tourism.com/" target="_blank">Beaune, France</a></li><li>[41:35] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.italia.it/en/emilia-romagna" target="_blank">Emilia-Romagna</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.bolognawelcome.com/en" target="_blank">Bologna, Italy</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.italia.it/en/veneto" target="_blank">Veneto, Italy</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.foodandwine.com/wine/red-wine/amarone-wine-guide" target="_blank">Amarone Wine</a></li><li>[41:55] <a href="https://www.andalucia.com/cities/jerez.htm" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Jerez, Spain</a> (Sherry)</li><li>[42:15] Connect with <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/alan-kraft-3a2b641" target="_blank">Alan</a> &amp; <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jim-kabakow-8239493" target="_blank">Jim</a> on LinkedIn, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://bin113.com/" target="_blank">Bin113.com</a>, and check out <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/@WineAcrossAmerica" target="_blank"><em>Wine Across America</em></a></li></ul><ul><li>[42:28] What are Alan &amp; Jim&#8217;s Final Thoughts</li></ul><ul><li>[42:53] Follow the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth</em></a> podcast and tell a friend about the podcast. And show love (or roast me) by leaving 5 stars on Apple Podcasts and/or Spotify</li></ul><ul><li>[43:02] The <em>Wild Business Growth</em> podcast is on YouTube! <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/@maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Subscribe @MaxBranstetter</a> to watch full video interviews with Wild entrepreneurs like Alan &amp; Jim</li></ul><ul><li>[43:08] Check out the <em>Wild Business Growth</em> podcast<em> </em>on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.goodpods.com/" target="_blank">Goodpods</a>, where you can see what your favorite people are listening to</li><li>[43:10] Connect with me on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/max-branstetter-74150a57/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/maxbranstetter/" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Twitter</a> (aka <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/maxbranstetter" target="_blank">X</a>), and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.threads.net/@maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Threads</a> @MaxBranstetter and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.tiktok.com/@wildbusinessgrowth" target="_blank">TikTok</a> @WildBusinessGrowth</li></ul><ul><li>[43:13] Save time with your high-quality podcast. Email me at <a href="mailto:&#109;&#97;&#120;&#64;&#109;&#97;&#120;podcas&#116;ing&#46;&#99;&#111;&#109;">&#109;ax&#64;ma&#120;&#112;o&#100;cas&#116;&#105;&#110;g&#46;c&#111;m</a> to bring your podcast to life and use it as a business-building tool</li><li>[43:17] Sign up for the <em>Podcasting to the Max</em> newsletter at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/newsletter/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/Newsletter</a> and receive <em>How to Edit Your Podcast in Audacity</em>. It&#8217;s where podcasting meets entrepreneurship &#8211; and terrible puns</li><li>Theme music: Freestyle Percussion Magik &#8211; &#8220;Jungle Tribe&#8221; &#8211; provided by Jamendo</li></ul></li></ul>



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<h2 id="podcast-summary"><strong>What is the <em>Wild Business Growth</em> podcast?</strong></h2>



<p>Wild ideas. Wild growth. Every Wednesday morning a new entrepreneur joins the <em>Wild Business Growth </em>podcast to share the wildly creative and unusual ways they grew their business &#8211; and teaches you how to do it, too. Hear the minds behind WordPress, Stacy&#8217;s Pita Chips, Drybar, NFL RedZone, Big Mouth Billy Bass, the voice of Bart Simpson, and more Wild stories. Hosted by <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/about/" target="_blank">Max Branstetter</a> (that&#8217;s me), Founder and Podcast Producer at MaxPodcasting.</p>



<h2><strong>How do you start a podcast?</strong></h2>



<p>Interested in starting a professional-sounding and professional-looking podcast for your brand, but don&#8217;t want to deal with the time commitment of all those behind-the-scenes details? I’ve got you covered. Email me at <a href="mailto:m&#97;x&#64;&#109;ax&#112;&#111;dc&#97;&#115;t&#105;&#110;g.c&#111;m">m&#97;x&#64;ma&#120;p&#111;&#100;&#99;&#97;s&#116;in&#103;.&#99;&#111;&#109;</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool.</p>



<p>Thanks for listening to Alan Kraft &amp; Jim Kabakow on the <em>Wild Business Growth</em> podcast.<em> </em>To hear more Wild stories like this one every Wednesday morning, follow the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth</em></a> podcast and tell a friend about it. And watch <em>Wine Across America</em> with them. Until next time, Let your business Run Wild&#8230;and <strong><em>Bring on the Bongos!!</em></strong></p>
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