Full Transcript – Dr. Andrew Branstetter – Wild Business Growth Podcast #313

This is the full transcript for Episode #313 of the Wild Business Growth podcast featuring Dr. Andrew Branstetter – ER Doctor, My Brother. You can listen to the interview and learn more here. Please note: this transcript is not 100% accurate.

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 0:00
Oh sir, what? What happened? He said, I fell on it.

Max Branstetter 0:03
Gobbledy, gobbledy. Gob, gobble, gobble. Welcome back to the Wild Business Growth podcast. This is your place to hear from a new entrepreneur every single Wednesday morning who’s turning Wild ideas into Wild growth. I’m your host, Max Branstetter, Founder and Podcast Producer at MaxPodcasting, and you can email me at to save time with your high-quality podcast. This is the 7th Annual Thanksgiving Family episode. It is one of my favorite episodes. Let’s just say it is my favorite episode to do every single year, a tradition that goes back to 2018 when the podcast started and I interviewed my dad. And in this edition are very, very, very, very, very, very, very repeated. Special guest is my brother, Dr Andrew Branstetter. He is an ER doctor in New York, and this interview took place in person. Extra special as always, and there’s not as much business in this episode as there is usually, but it’s an amazing story of an amazing person and an amazing ER doctor, and in the making of an ER doctor from day one and beyond, it is AB. Have a wonderful Thanksgiving, if you celebrate, and if not, have a wonderful day. And if you’re listening to this at a random time of the year, have a wonderful day as well, and enjoy the shoe.

Alrighty. We are here with Dr. Andrew Branstetter, which I think I just said is and do the seventh annual guest for the 7th annual Thanksgiving Family Edition of the Wild Business Growth podcast, always one of the most special episodes of the year, the baby as he’s known, long, skinny arms, as he’s also known. Mom, JoAnn, has a lot of nicknames for him that we’ve all adopted, but Dr. Andrew, Dr. Drew. Thank you so much for joining my brother. Welcome to Hoboken, aka Broboken today. Sorry, that’s incredibly corny. How you doing today?

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 2:31
I’m good. Thank you for having me. I held out as long as I could, but Lucky number seven seems like a good time. So excited to be here.

Max Branstetter 2:39
That’s what she said. And so welcome, I don’t even know, but no, this is this has been one of the most requested potential guests of all time, and for a while we thought that maybe you never say yes to this. So thank you for saying yes to doing this in the first place. But really excited to dive into your story. We go way back. I wanted to start off with a section that we’ve never done before, because in prep for this interview, our mom, Joanne, said that she was really concerned that this interview might make you lose your job and your career, so she sent in a couple questions for you. What’s your favorite season, what’s your favorite color? I’m just kidding. She was, she was she was concerned, though, no, we’re gonna get to, uh, to all sorts of the sex drugs and rock and roll of the ER world before that. So when we think of growing up, anybody who knows you now knows that you’re tall and skinny, and you weren’t always that way. Actually, when we were really, really little, I was the chubby one, and then it kind of turned and for a bit, you were the chubby one. And then you had, like, the most impressive growth spurt and skinny spurt I’ve ever seen. So you went from, I don’t know my height, to what are you now, six, two ish,

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 4:04
legally,

Max Branstetter 4:05
legally and illegally. And you went from having a little bit of baby weight to being really skinny. I’m just curious, from your mindset, this is a hard hitting one, but from your from your mindset, like, when you went through that, like, puberty and growth spurt, change, did you feel different, like, did you feel did that affect how you, like viewed yourself, or like outlook on life?

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 4:27
Yeah, that’s a that’s a great question that I don’t always think back to. I remember so I would have been, you know, elementary school, middle school, up until that first year of high school when I was a little a little bigger, I think it was a combination of, you know, recognizing it, but kind of ignoring it, and and puberty was, you know, taking off at that point, I was getting more serious about playing tennis, you know, I wanted to make a more conscious effort to kind of change. Change some things, but also at that age of, like 1213, you don’t have a great grasp on that and how to, like set goals and make progress towards a goal, but I definitely like identified it as something I wanted to change. Because I think a lot of for me, like my self confidence, kind of evolved with that transformation, which has, you know, taken years and years to work on. But, yeah, I felt like much more positive after that. And, you know, I was four or five inches taller. I was seeing the world from a different angle,

Max Branstetter 5:40
a rather acute angle.

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 5:43
I don’t know that at the time, that I felt as big of a change as when looking back at it, and like in hindsight, and kind of hearing how, how other people had seen me and viewed me, and how that kind of that they could see the changes more than I probably noted at the time. So I think then it didn’t make as much of a difference, but like now, looking back, I can see that it was kind of a big part of kind of transitioning towards adulthood, maturity, kicking things off with that

Max Branstetter 6:12
damn man, you’re gonna make me cry. Man, no, the heavy hitter at the gate, appreciate that, and it’s really cool to hear, when I think back around that time that you like going through puberty. I remember one of my favorite like, memories of you in sports growing up, and we’ll talk tennis in a second. Obviously, tennis is awesome, but around that time that you became one of the taller people, we’ll call it, you switch from being probably like a guard or forward in basketball to being like the center or like power forward down low in rec league basketball. And so like you were down in the post, Fiji in the post. And I still remember, what was it, the year that you guys won, and of course, dad was a coach. So many amazing sports memories growing up, but the year that you won your team won rec league basketball, and you drilled two free throws at the end of the game to clinch the win. Cold as I Stone Cold mother ever. What was that like? Sixth grade? Maybe

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 7:13
I want to say sixth grade. I think that was, I don’t know our uniform. I think it was blue. Feel like it’s a lifetime ago, but I don’t want it that

Max Branstetter 7:23
was tall skinny Andrew, or tall getting skinny? Andrew, yeah,

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 7:26
so sixth, or maybe even eighth grade. I think those were two bank free throws. I think they went off the backboard right in. It’s funny. I

Max Branstetter 7:34
didn’t even remember that part. I just remember you drilled them. I was really nervous. Everybody was nervous. Like this was literally, you know, at the soul and rec center they used to have, they had two basketball courts in front of the championship games. They pulled up the divider in between them, and they put the court side away. So it was like one big court. And so, like everyone, it felt like the entire town was watching. And so you got fouled, you need to go hit free throws, and you drilled them. And now, you know, a little teaser to your medical career. But when people ask how you handle like, er and being a doctor and all that stuff, I’m like, even since those free throws, like, at an early age, he’s been cool as a cucumber. So speaking of excelling at sports, tennis, what is it that drew you to tennis in the first place?

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 8:17
I think what initially drew me to it growing up, you know, our grandparents, Henry and Adele, they were big tennis players their whole lives. And mom played throughout high school and and it was like their sport. And even in, you know, in the 60s, 70s, eight, like their age, they were still playing, maybe just once a week or once a month, but they were still playing. So that kind of like drew me in initially to tennis, but there was just something that was different about it than some other sports, where, on one hand, it’s very independent, and you’re playing by yourself, and you’re kind of in control of a lot of a lot of what you do, but at the same time, you know, especially in like, high school or just different leagues. It’s also a team sport that you’re rooting on other people. So it was a nice combination of those things, but something that I thought I could really excel at more than other other sports, and something that you can kind of like, keep your head down, focus on yourself to get better at the skills. And just fun. It’s fun to play. It

Max Branstetter 9:22
is shout out, Henry and Adele. So, like, they actually, like they played at the Senior Olympics. Like, it’s pretty crazy how, you know, really became a lifetime sport for them, and I’m sure will for you as well. And Dane and I and family love playing it in Florida now too. I remember you like starting to like tennis, and then starting to do some tournaments, and you know, there were some wins and there were some losses, and at a certain point, and I’m sure the growth spurt didn’t hurt at this point, but I think by the time you got to high school, like you were, like, really damn good, like you’re really good tennis. And always think back to sophomore year of high school, you and Liam O’Brien, that’s. Twin Towers, the doubles team, you guys went to state some of the most, like, amazing tennis matches I’ve ever watched. And obviously it’s really cool when it’s your brother. But that run like you’re playing in the state championship, like the State Championship playoffs in Columbus, not, not, not the actual final match, but far from leading up to it, no, you lost a really, really good team. But like, what did that run in? Like, winning the region or whatever, and and getting to compete in states, baby, as you said on Facebook back in the day, what did that mean to you to like, you know, get to kind of the top level of, like, Ohio high school sports,

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 10:36
yeah. I mean, it was, it was unexpected, and that, I think that was my first year on the, like varsity team. I had kind of the my freshman year, I was on the JV Junior Varsity, so I was kind of newer on the team. You know, I knew, I knew the other players, the other teammates, but I don’t think that I was expecting, in any way, or most people were expecting us to go to the make it to the state tournament, qualify for that, similar to what you were saying. It’s like something with the growth spurt, and just like all those hours of private lessons and putting in practice, it’s like it started to pay off a bit, which was good, and it was fun. It was really fun at the time. Um, yeah, we can ignore the actual, like match of the state tournament when we got demolished and didn’t and we won one, one game. New Albany, right? Yeah, in the whole the whole match, but it was still fun to be there. Like, great to be a part of that. I have a shirt that has my name on it forever, and it was, it was a good experience, yeah? And I

Max Branstetter 11:36
hint at the Facebook post, I still remember your Facebook status back when everybody made Facebook status, as you said, states, baby states, which is like the Vegas baby swingers type thing. So no awesome memories there. The other part I want to hit on from growing up before college, like, anybody who knows you knows you’re really smart. And I don’t think it’d be a surprise for many people to know that, like, you were a hell of a student. And, like, I always joke about how, like, but it’s all serious that, like, I was a great student, and I was always really happy with my grades and test scores and everything. And then Andrew came along and, like, totally surpassed that to, like, a next level, like, unimaginable. First of all, congrats on a great academic career. No, but obviously, you’re really smart. You took school seriously. Where’d that come from internally? Do you think to want to achieve, you know, the highest grades and do so well on tests and everything in that ballpark?

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 12:33
It’s funny, you ask it, because I’ve thought a lot about this, like, especially in the last like, five ish, recent future of like, what was it about school and academics and education that made me, like, want to keep doing well and putting a lot of my time into it and energy. And it doesn’t like, sound like cheesy, but I think some of it was kind of what you had touched on already, of, you know, being a little bigger and, and I think I had some like, self confidence issues. But then when I got to school and started going through school and different classes and and doing well, it was like this positive feedback loop where I was like, Oh, I can do this really well, and this makes me feel great. And like, this is where I can kind of focus my energy and effort and like, kind of own that. And then, I guess it kind of just like blows up from there. And like, then once you start doing well, and you’re like, Okay, now I need to do well. And that can have its own issues. But I think it kind of stemmed from there with, like adolescence, and then once I started to set my eyes on, like a medical school, or at least something in, like science and math, or something in that STEM field, I was like, Okay, now it’s also important to do well, like it can make a difference for your future, if you’re doing better too. So I think that like fed into it, maybe in high school, but before that, it was, it was a lot of like within myself, kind of like how, how it made me feel, and how I wanted to just keep doing better each time.

Max Branstetter 14:19
So this has become a much deeper interview than I expected, which I love. So let’s get to something lighter. Um, let’s talk emergency rooms, doctors. So you hinted at it, like, when you started to figure out, like, I want to be a doctor, I want to do something, I want to start to go down that path. It’s really, really cool, like, and if you check out your Instagram, you can see this somewhere. But if you look at some of the earliest pictures of us, there’s one where we have, like the little like toy, like medical toolkit thing where, like, one of us has the little glasses on, like doctor’s glasses on. One of us has the, oh God, obviously I’m not the doctor here. What’s, what’s the thing that you like, hit the. E and back in the old days, oh, like a

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 15:01
reflex, reflex, hammer reflex, probably another word for it that I Yeah,

Max Branstetter 15:05
so there was, like, one of those, any anyway, there’s, it’s really cool that, obviously, I didn’t go down that path, but it’s really cool to look at that picture and be like, Wow. Like the little, like the younger one here is literally going to grow up to be an ER doctor in New York, like that. That’s so cool. So lots, lots to unpack there. But still, I guess, growing up, even before you started at in college at OSU, what is it about the medical field that piqued your interest?

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 15:29
Well, I want to before I answer that question, you mentioned Instagram. I don’t have very many posts on there. That is one of my few posts that I have. This is not an advertisement for my Instagram.

Max Branstetter 15:42
You get you’re an influencer.

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 15:45
So what initially drew me to medicine was it the Instagram followers to be a medfluencer. It’s a combination of a lot, and I think, I think my initial like taste of it was probably various, like, TV programs that I would kind of like catch a glimpse of growing up when, like, mom was watching because she loves Grey’s Anatomy. Er, like, she loves those shows, by the

Max Branstetter 16:16
way, isn’t Grey’s Anatomy still making new episodes. Like, yeah, it’s like, survivor,

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 16:20
it is. It’s still going, um, but there was something about it that I would just I would see the like, hustle bustle of a hospital in the background on a TV even if I was, like, doing homework at the time, or eating or whatever I was doing, and I would want to watch and, like, I would be engaged in a program, even though I knew nothing about what was actually happening on the show. I think that was the initial like taste of it, because we don’t have like family member, I mean, relatives in medicine up until we were growing up and, you know, our cousin. But so we didn’t we. I didn’t get that interest in medicine from the family route, which I think a lot of people do, and there was no pressure to ever go into it. But something about it was just really intriguing. And something about learning how our bodies work and how they don’t work and how to fix it when they don’t work, was, like, pretty interesting to me. Like that, Operation Game, like that, that was interesting. And I was like, oh, there’s a way to fix these things.

Max Branstetter 17:20
And Did you always know that you wanted to grow up to be Dana’s personal doctor?

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 17:25
That, yes, years before I knew that Dana, before we met,

Max Branstetter 17:31
like at one point in that timeline, I guess, did you decide on, er, that

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 17:36
took some time. So I guess, like, kind of zooming out in the medical field and training program, at least in the US is, you know, you go to medical school, you’re kind of, it’s like general you learn everything. You rotate through all the different months of training and things, and sometime during your third or your early in your fourth year, you have to start applying for residency, the next level of training. And I almost had a like, an oh shit moment, like, partway doing my third year, because I liked a lot of what I saw. Like I there was something appealing about a lot of the different specialties and floors, and even, you know, as far, like going from one end of like pediatrics clinics, where you’re doing like well baby visits, or, on the other hand, doing like anesthesia and like surgery, like those, I liked almost all of it. So as I got further along in medical school, I wanted to I was thinking of a future specialty that could incorporate everything, something that on a day to day basis, I could potentially be exposed to anything that comes in. And so I think er, was a pretty natural fit when thinking from it that way, it

Max Branstetter 18:52
makes sense when you think about er, of like, you get to like, if you’re someone who’s genuinely interested in, like, anatomy, biology, all the G’s, and again, I’m not the doctor, and you think about, like, the different types of cases that you can experience and how you can help Well, literally, like, save people. Er, seems like a great route. So I don’t think anybody was like, surprised when they found out that you wanted to go down that path. It was, like, really cool and really inspiring when you think about your your education. So I don’t know how many, obviously, your friends know this, that who go way back, but like, I don’t know how many people know that you spent eight years in Columbus at Ohio State like, like, that’s a long time, and at that point in your life, it’s what a third of your life ish in Sebas. So you went to undergrad at Ohio State, med school at Ohio State as well. You got a full ride undergrad to Ohio State. What was that like when you, obviously, you were, you were hoping you would get it our family, that’s like a really nice plus, like, you know, any scholarship helps, and this is stuff you couldn’t have dreamed of. You. Can you take us to the moment that you got the phone call saying that you were accepted to that program and we’re getting a

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 20:04
full ride? Yeah, thank you. That was Memphis. We were on a I guess that would be spring break of my senior year of high school back in 2012 mom, dad and Mindy aunt Mindy, we were there, and I we were near the river, and I remember getting a phone call from some number, like an Ohio area code of some kind. And I picked it up, and it was from Ohio State, like one of the representatives there who ended up being my future, one of my mentors, like during during college, offering me this scholarship and this chance to be a part of our this biomedical program, biomedical science program, and it was amazing to have the call, but it also, I think, at the time I it was unexpected. I didn’t know if it was going to happen, and I was looking at other colleges too. It wasn’t like Ohio State. I know a lot of people who grew up in Ohio, Ohio State is their dream school. I think I had, at times, wanted to get out of Ohio and, you know, go to a little smaller university. I was looking at some other places when I got this offer. I mean, looking in hindsight, it was life changing. But I think at the time I was I almost a little part of me was like, All right, I guess I’m going Ohio State now in a very like, Okay, this is the way it’s gonna happen, way and then, and now, looking back, I’m like, Thank God that that happened, like, the number of doors that that opened, and, you know, practically speaking, too for the family and financially, that was a big deal, and paying for school and housing and getting a little extra stipend every semester. Like, that’s amazing. So I’m very fortunate that that happened.

Max Branstetter 21:50
Yeah, it’s incredible. It’s such a like, there’s very few people that they give out that scholarship for, and obviously, like, you had an awesome resume. Like, it’s not surprised they did it. It’s just like, the odds of getting something like that are so slim that it was amazing. I still, I still have, like, excitement from how you and mom and dad and every like, we were all so excited when that happened. And, yeah, so it turned into eight awesome years in Columbus. So you had undergrad or pre med, as they call it, right? And then you had med school there. We can kind of group them together, but, like you mentioned, open a lot of doors. What do you what do you mean by that? Like, what’s what was most impactful about that to like, where you are today?

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 22:33
I think in general, I had a fantastic like time at Ohio State, and as undergrad was going on, I clearly I loved it enough to stay for med school. So I liked Columbus, I liked Ohio State. But with the doors that it opened, I think a lot of that in early college, like early undergrad studies, it was exposing me to different like shadowing, shadowing meaning like where you are, kind of following doctors around in the hospital, or observing them like on their day to day, to expose me to different options and opportunities, like within the medical field. And that was like, right there a 10 minute walk from my dorm freshman year, was the hospital. So it was so close that it was like, instantly ingrained in my college experience, which I think later, you know, it was like, it felt it was a comfortable place. It was like somewhere that I knew and somewhere that I could really learn a lot about medicine. And few years later, medical school, moving forward, what

Max Branstetter 23:38
was the coolest thing that you got to do as a either a pre med or med student in Columbus.

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 23:44
Oh, it’s funny, because this is nothing like what I do now on a day to day basis at work. But I was on a it was a cardiothoracic surgery, so like I was gonna guess that heart and lung surgery rotation and it’s some of the most like tiny, little, exact surgical procedures you can do. But as part of that, they have transplants. So there were heart transplants, lung transplants, sometimes both, and occasionally they would let the medical student go on the private jet plane to the site where you’re getting the getting the organs for the transplant and bringing them back to Ohio State. So near the end of my rotation, I was able to do one for a lung transplant. So I flew down to Atlanta and keep like, I think my shift that day, quote, unquote, ended at like, 5pm and I think we got the call, like late morning, and they had told me, Oh, you’re probably not going to get home. I mean, back to Columbus until late night. But I had wanted to go on one so bad, because I had some other friends, like colleagues, that had done it. And, yeah, went down to Atlanta. I was seeing different physicians from like six different hospitals. That were all there the transplant teams from six different places, and then we flew the lungs back to Ohio State. And I was there for the beginning of seeing the actual transplant being done, which was really cool to see.

Max Branstetter 25:14
This is very immature of me, but when you said flew the lungs back, I pictured lungs like with the like little wing like emojis flying through the air.

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 25:21
And no, that’s how it works. Yeah,

Max Branstetter 25:23
you’re riding it like a was it not The Land Before Time, the never ending story, that giant dog thing.

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 25:29
I did briefly hold the cooler, but I had to be like in eyesight of one of the transplant like technicians or something. He was, like, watching me as I did it, but I I did hold the cooler, but I had no part in the actual surgery of that. But it was very cool to see it almost like seems fake, or you see it in shows, but like, no this happens like day to day around the country 1000s of times.

Max Branstetter 25:56
So, as you very explicitly mentioned, so you flew on a private jet multiple times a day, every single day. That was, that was day in the life for you. But now, if you, if you look afford, if you look a forward, making up words here, if you look forward, by the way, we are drinking beer during this so sorry if you look beyond Ohio State, next came residency, and that was really, really cool, because that’s like, what brought you out to the East Coast, and obviously, like, we have a lot of family here, Dana and I have been Hoboken for a while. We were so stoked, like, when we found out that you were moving to the city and you had residency in the city, can you take us through, like, it’s a little bit different than finding out that you got the full ride, but it’s still, it’s like, you have that anticipation of, like, where am I going to be and where, you know, like, help me make a big decision, where was New York? Like, in your level of interest, I guess before you found out that you’d be coming out here for residency,

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 26:55
I think New York, in my mind, you know, growing up, we would do trips every few years. Or, you know, we were doing Thanksgiving in New Jersey with our cousins, and occasionally we would come into, into Manhattan, into into New York City. And every time I was there, I loved it, but that’s also in a touristy vacation way. Yeah,

Max Branstetter 27:16
you’re like, I want to live in the middle of Times Square, yeah? And

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 27:19
like, the ball drop. That’s where I’m gonna live, right under that apartment, right there

Max Branstetter 27:23
in my Elmo mascot costume with the

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 27:27
Krispy Kreme store. So I think there was always a positive, just positive feelings like about New York City in my mind, because of that. And I think I had applied to like, one or two colleges, like in high school, like, looking forward to college in New York, and those didn’t work out. And then with college, and then med school happened, and I’m like, okay, maybe now is the time to go to go out there and you, you know, you were living here for a couple years at that point, thankfully, you were, because I was able to stay with you, like, visit you for sometimes, like, a week at a time. Yeah, you did some major couch surfing, and I did a whole month at a time. That is true.

Max Branstetter 28:08
You stayed, yeah? You stayed for a month on my couch. Yeah, the grant granted that, especially before some shifts. There were some nights that I gave you the bed and I took the couch, but that has to be like a record for Branstetter couch surfing, yeah, yeah. I did like that as another story about a couch, but that’s for a separate

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 28:24
time. I did like an audition, yeah? You know that like trial month at a hospital in Brooklyn, and I stayed there, but no, the couch was okay. That was a shout out to IKEA. Shout IKEA, yeah. But I think I was able to kind of see myself, or, you know, envision myself ahead of time, like, could I live here? Is this somewhere that I could live every day, go grocery shopping, go to a coffee shop and do some studying? Like, is this a feasible place to live? Which I still don’t have a good answer to that, even though it’s been, it’s my fifth year now. But yeah, it was kind of like, initially, it was this dream that I had of, like, moving here, and then it became more real and more real. And with you being here, it was like, Okay, this because, actually, you know, you hear the cousins are around here, like, this could work. And then match day, or, like, the match process of residency, where you, where you you’re a medical student, you’re matching into a residency program. I was like, Okay, this could be the chant, like, this could be the time to do it, and then COVID happened.

Max Branstetter 29:28
But also, you matched anyway. Like, also important, yeah, that’s, I mean, awesome memories. Like, we, yeah, we were in Cleveland with you when you found out, and made like a little homemade sign I matched, and it’s also one of your four Instagram posts. So thanks for that. But medfluencer, let’s get to modern day, many years in Columbus and pre med and med school, then in New York. For residency now full time, ER doctor in New York. I’m gonna call this segment A Day in the Life, because I have so many questions here, and it’s kind of all over the place, but really it’s about learning, like, what your life is like and like, I’ve said this on podcast before, but the type of stuff you do every day and how you literally, like, save lives and, like, help people for a living is, like, always been super inspiring to me. And like, as Dana knows, like, like, anybody like, I’ll get stressed about work sometimes, and it always helps to, like, keep in perspective of like, okay, you know, it’s like marketing and like podcasting versus like, life or death, you know, like it kind of helps to reframe it. And I think about the same thing with Dana is like teaching our youth, you know, like both you guys really helped to keep things in perspective. So that’s all. So next segment, no, just, okay, no. So. So one, thank you. And two, let’s get to the sex, drugs and rock and roll, as I called it. I want to talk scheduling first, because, as an ear doctor, these days, your schedule is much more manageable, and you have some off days every now and then, but especially for residency, like pretty crazy gauntlet of a schedule, the biggest thing there is like you become A pro at becoming a half vampire, meaning you can, like, switch it to for being like a normal person to being a nocturnal person, seemingly pretty easily. I don’t know, but how would you characterize like the life of you know, sometimes we got to work nocturnal shifts and I gotta get myself adjusted.

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 31:36
Yeah. Well, luckily I’m addicted to caffeine, so I can drink coffee doctor with an addiction, I can drink coffee whenever I need to. And funnily enough, like growing up, I was always I would like love to stay up late. I don’t fully remember if we actually had like, bedtimes growing up, but I always would like be excited we did

Max Branstetter 31:57
you were just going to remember. But I would always love, like, staying

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 32:01
up late and watching shows. Like it was always kind of like natural, like easy for me to stay up or be awake longer if I needed to. And I don’t know if it was like a FOMO thing, where I just didn’t want to miss anything that happened, like in life. So I would just want to be awake all the time. And I think, Well, dad is a great Napper. He he, like, makes that a part of his schedule. And, like, it’s good for creativity and and so I think the napping thing, like, I love to do that as well, in terms of, like, er schedules, which can be very variable, and there can be flipping between day shifts night shifts, like switching back pretty quickly being nocturnal to not nocturnal. I think, like, kind of the way that I grew up, it kind of like helped make that easier, easier to do. But it is hard. It’s tough. You know, I’m 30 now, okay, but I can feel, I can feel like it’s more difficult to transition back from working an overnight shift to quickly switching to a day shift, as opposed to, like, even two, three years ago in residency, when we were doing it like once every other week. Like, I could, you know, I was pretty good at it. Pretty good at that. What’s

Max Branstetter 33:16
the hardest part of the night? Like, if you’re working like a full like a, let’s say for like a 7pm to 7am for example. What hour is the most difficult?

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 33:25
I think I have two answers to that. So the first answer is like 6pm before the shift starts, especially for where I work up in in the Bronx, I take the subway to go from this from from Manhattan up into the Bronx, and at six o’clock, especially on a Friday or a Saturday, that’s like most people’s weekend. And oftentimes in the spring, summer, early fall, there are Yankees games. And so the Yankees fans are on the train, and they’re all having a great night. It’s the start of their night, and it’s the start of my night too, but it’s a much different night that I’m about to have some night shifts, like on the way to work, it’s more of like a mind over matter of like, once I get there, I will be happy and ready to work. But that train going there is tough to see everyone else that’s like about to go have a enjoy their evening. In other ways, the second hardest part is probably like, three in the morning, four in the morning, that’s when the just, you’re just tired and like, everyone’s body gets cold, even if the air conditioning is not like blasting, you’re just like, your body’s like, I should be asleep right now, but you mentally know that you have another three or four hours to work. Those middle of the night hours can be tough, but everyone’s going through that together, like all the staff that’s there is doing the same thing.

Max Branstetter 34:43
What’s like a trick for like adjusting back and forth when you need to switch between being a normal person and a count chocolate.

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 34:53
There’s a lot of different ways to do this. I don’t think that mine is the best solution. I think. People who do it like weekly swapping are a little better at it than me, but when I get home from a night shift, I want to as quickly as possible start switching back to being like daytime. So I’ll usually do a quick, not quick, a nap for a few hours, wake up around one o’clock in the afternoon, two in the afternoon, and plan something later that afternoon so that I have to be awake and I have to leave my house rather than just laying around all day, because if I’m on my couch, I’m just gonna want to sleep the whole day, and then I won’t be able to sleep that night. So I think it’s kind of about strategically planning things to make me stay awake and one coffee or maybe two. But yeah,

Max Branstetter 35:41
this guy’s addicted to cafes or something, all right. And now the moment we’ve all been waiting for, obviously, with with HIPAA, we can’t reveal, like, any details, anything like that, even if you want to think about it this way, these are strictly hypothetical medical cases. But can you share just some of the most, like, memorable, or, like, shocking medical cases that you’ve you’ve had to work on or, or had the pleasure to work on either, either or, we can get as unruly as you want. Yeah,

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 36:14
maybe we can build up to the unruly we’ll do, like a little softball, and then we can lead up to no. It’s funny. So the time that the softball was lodged, it’s funny because this is, like, one of the first questions that people ask you when they hear that you’re an ER doctor. Probably the same for some other specialties too, like surgery and stuff, but it’s like, oh, what’s the wildest thing you’ve seen? And nowadays, I’ve started to, and I’ve only been doing this a few years. Like, it’s not like, I’m doing it a long time, but I’m already like, Oh my god, they asked that question again. Sorry, but it’s natural. And there is a lot that we see and a lot that doesn’t, doesn’t strike us, like, working in the ER, as like, weird or, like, maybe even funny that to a normal, like lay person is probably like, shocking, like, you’re like, what you just deal with that day to day. So it’s hard to, like, narrow things down to specific ones. So I’ll try to, like, give a few, a few stories to cover a few different types of case of patients. In cases, I think everybody’s favorite stories are about what are called foreign bodies, quote, unquote, which is essentially an object. You could do it like an like a mad lib, where it’s like, I have a blank in my blank and pick anything, any object, and, you know, choose from a various orifice. And I’ve probably seen something similar in the last few years,

Max Branstetter 37:53
these things find, you know, it’s like these objects have a mind of their own. It seems. Yeah,

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 37:57
there was, and this during residency, who said that his stomach was hurting and he needed an x ray. And we got an x ray, and we saw a soft drink can of some kind, you know, we went to the patient and said, Oh, sir, what? What happened? He said, I fell on it. Gravity’s a bitch, yeah. So, you know, no judgment. Everyone does their own thing, but it needs to come out. So there are times that patients will try to, beat around the bush and not just be honest about things that happen, and sometimes we have to hear but it can be embarrassing, for sure. There was a patient during residency who was very open about what was inside of him. But we ended up getting a CAT scan and a CT scan, just to get a better picture anyway. And when I tell you that the object we saw was was basically going from his butt to his belly button, probably 1012, inches, that was inside,

Max Branstetter 39:20
at least. He didn’t say I fell on it. He owned it. Yeah.

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 39:24
So there is a fair share of, like, I can’t get this out help,

Max Branstetter 39:29
by the way. I love how you said, let’s start with some softballs up to it, and then you’re like, foreign body. Here we go. But there’s a huge

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 39:37
range of what we see day to day and what I see at work. You know, it can range from I’ve been coughing for one day my throat hurts, help, to I’m having a massive heart attack. Like, it’s a humongous range of what you see. And you kind of just have to be prepared for everything. I think something that’s like been the the trickiest for me to deal with is I. The quick kind of switching and going from a very acutely ill, complex patient, or, you know, some like a death or something like a cardiac arrest, talking to family about that, because that’s, you know, that’s on us, to talk to the family members when it happens and explain to them what happened, and then to within the next few minutes, go to seeing someone who might have, you know, stubbed their toe. I think it’s easy to kind of be like almost ranking in terms of acuity, like emergencies, and reminding yourself that for that person, that patient coming in like that is an emergency to them. It’s tough to remind yourself of that, but that’s kind of the game. You

Max Branstetter 40:42
had so many long words in that last sentence, I was just blown away. But the death piece is, I think, shocking for so many late people. As you said, so many of us who aren’t working in, er, the medical field of like, like, let’s say a patient dies and it’s on it like, it’s not your fault, but it’s you were working on it. How do you handle that? Like, and handle that frequently?

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 41:13
Yeah, it’s um, it’s interesting. I think to an extent you do have to, at least in the moment, almost distance yourself a bit from that emotional part related to the patient and the family members, because you don’t want that to get in the way of the medical care. And then when you we call it like pronouncing a death. So like, that’s when, you know, we have decided that, you know, we’ve done all the efforts, and it’s time to kind of call it, and that’s the time of death. It’s tricky to go from thinking of the medical management, the medical care, to quickly talking to the family members about it. And I think something that we’ll do sometimes is is kind of bring the family in to our what we call it, like the trauma bay, like resuscitation room, to see us doing, doing the like care for their family member, because it can help a bit with them processing and seeing that. You know, we’ve been trying to do stuff,

Max Branstetter 42:21
yeah, I think that’s the biggest thing that, I mean, besides the nocturnal piece, the biggest thing that it’s like, so different from, you know, everybody else that’s in, you know, like, a lot of audience for this podcast is, like, in the business world, or has a business, or aspiring entrepreneur, and it’s, yeah, like, there’s, there’s late nights in that space, but there’s not often, hopefully too many full nights, but whatever we’re doing doesn’t matter nearly as much as like life or death situations and like the ability to save people and solve all their ailments a wide range. As you talked about, would you see that? You see more like what you would call physical health or like mental health cases. I

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 43:04
don’t know if it’s like because so working up in Bronx or any, any New York City Hospital, there’s a big percentage of mental health related patients in the ER. Or if they don’t necessarily come to the ER for that, but they have a background of it, or maybe that’s also what they wanted to kind of check in on. It’s a huge part of the emergency department is not just what we would consider, like the medical care, but you know, their social assistance that they might need, financial, things, transportation, like, there’s just a lot of that that comes through the ER, we’re also kind of, it’s like a safety net for a lot of patients who might have months and months of not being able to see their psychiatrist, or they might not be able to see their primary care doctor for three months, but they need their blood pressure medicine refilled, or they need their monthly injection for for their depression or, you know, something like that, that initially we might kind of like scoff at or roll our eyes, like, Oh, why are they coming to the ER for this? But then when you like, think about it, it’s like sometimes there’s no other option. What I think I’ve come to love about the ER so far, is that, you know, we don’t turn anybody away like every patient that comes, can be seen and talked to by a physician. And I think that’s different than a lot of fields. But yeah, there’s a big chunk related to more mental health things, and sometimes it’s things that I can’t help with, or I can’t fully we can’t always fix everything, but at least we could try to get them in touch with the people that can

Max Branstetter 44:50
on the flip side of that, what’s like, a type of case that is like these days, is just kind of like, really quick to identify. Eye and, like, treat, and then you’re like, all right, this, we’re pretty efficient with this. Yeah, I

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 45:04
think the two most, like common ones are just in general. It’s like, chest pain or abdominal pain. So like, the most, if you think of someone, if you come with, like, abdominal pain down low, like appendicitis, something like that, it’s just like, it’s straightforward. It’s where you know if you’re having pain down in this area. And I’m like, Okay, this is probably what it is. And we’ll quickly get the IV in, take you over the CAT scan and, like, identify it pretty soon, get you with the surgeon and stuff. But those are probably, like, the quickest things, or the things that we see often is related to, like, abdominal issues and just like chest pain, making sure you’re not having a heart attack, but if you are having a heart attack that’s also very quickly dealt with. And you know, I work at a hospital that’s like, they have the they call it a cath lab, where they can, like, deal with the blockages in the heart, and so people can get upstairs within 1015, minutes to where they need to be to get that like intervention to save their life. So

Max Branstetter 46:00
we’re finally on to the lighter segments. So I know that was just putting you, you know, on the spot like crazy. But we have a couple quicker, lighter, more fun, random, zany, brainy, wow segments to wrap up here. The first one kind of a rite of passage, the unusual. So this is pet peeves, quirks, weird talents. This isn’t about you, and like the medical field that I mean, it could be, if you want to tie it to but this is just kind of like you in general. What would you say is a quirk, like something a little quirky about your personality that, like we or friends, family, co workers, somebody calls you out for it, but it’s who you are.

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 46:41
I don’t know this is a quirk, but what I get called out for a lot is my soft speech.

Max Branstetter 46:47
But by the way, we we have your microphone gain about double the level of mine at the time of this recording, so we’re all good.

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 46:55
I like to view it as a more engaging way to relate to people, because you have to lean closer to talk. And I think that gives me some, like, positive I’m like, Oh, they’re like, leaning they’re listening to me. No, I other quirks. I mean, butterflies, birds freak me out.

Max Branstetter 47:15
Oh, birds too. I didn’t they have you had the Lori gene.

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 47:18
It’s not all birds. It’s, I don’t like the unpredictable flying near my head and in the city full of pigeons that is a problem. But butterflies, as you’ve talked about before, with Costa Rica, that will be in my brain forever.

Max Branstetter 47:36
I think that goes all the way back to the first Thanksgiving special with Dad. Where we you know, I asked him about favorite family trips, and he brought up Costa Rica. And for anybody who’s not familiar, that wherever we stayed, like the first leg of our Costa Rica trip, there was a butterfly garden, and so we went in there. It was like us and your mom and dad and Mindy, I was with you like it is unsettling the unpredictable floating of the butterflies, but you’re acting like that was one of the least favorite days of your life, being attacked, quote, unquote, by butterflies. That’s, that’s hilarious, but I don’t know about birds, so birds use some

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 48:12
fan either some birds, yeah, it depends.

Max Branstetter 48:15
I think all. I think that might be an NYC thing too, because, like, when I live there, the amount of times that you almost like a pigeon. Seems like it’s gonna take your head off, and they never hit you. But, well, hopefully, but

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 48:25
I think also, being taller, I feel like I’m closer to getting hit than some people.

Max Branstetter 48:30
I don’t like to worry about it. You’re Like a Bird. Nelly Furtado there. The

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 48:34
other quirk, I think, I always like to know which, like cardinal direction I’m facing or moving in.

Max Branstetter 48:42
I love how you use the name of a bird in that

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 48:47
description, like I was never a big like hiker, or like I wasn’t out navigating in the wilderness. But I just like to know, like, which direction I’m going. And even besides the like, Google Maps or whatever I’m using like, it’s just like helps me to know which direction just, I don’t know if it’s like, a instinctual thing of like, in case something goes wrong, to know like, which which way to go, but it seems kind of outdated at this point, but I don’t

Max Branstetter 49:18
know. Thankfully, there’s a lot of technology these days, aka smartphones or Google Maps, that that tells you which way you’re, you’re looking, which way you’re you’re Ray on Google Maps is facing, all right. How about pet peeves? What’s this could literally be about anything. What’s a pet peeve that grind your gears, as Peter Griffin says,

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 49:34
the slow walkers on the sidewalk that,

Max Branstetter 49:39
all right, you sound like a hinge profile

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 49:43
who shuffled from side to side and can’t walk in one direction. That irks me. People on the subway who have really big bags that they wear on their back, so you can’t get by

Max Branstetter 49:54
saying really big back. So no, I was just mean

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 49:59
large bags. I. Don’t know. I try to be mindful of what’s happening around me, and some people are not the same, all right?

Max Branstetter 50:06
And then weird talents this, I call them weird talents, but it really think of it as like a party trick, like, what’s something that you have a knack for, like, you’re really good at, but really it’s like, a pretty minor thing in their scheme of life.

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 50:17
I taught myself how to make balloon animals a couple years ago. How

Max Branstetter 50:22
is this the first time I’m hearing this?

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 50:26
It was actually for in residency. Oh my god, one of we do, like,

Max Branstetter 50:30
you guys did important things. We did

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 50:32
a retreat, and you were supposed to, like, Come, it’s talent show. And I was like, I don’t have a talent. I literally have no talent. And I Googled like 20 easy skills to learn, and magician was higher up. But balloon animals seemed feasible, so I watched a few videos, and I was able to make like a swan, a dog, a slightly smaller dog,

Max Branstetter 51:01
slightly larger, small, a larger

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 51:04
and I think I could make, like, four things, and I did it for the talent show, but I still, I in my closet in my apartment. Now I’d still have some balloons and the pump. I just haven’t done it in a while. I don’t know this is considered a talent as much as I guess we’re talking about addiction again, I love survivor, yeah. And I can watch any show, any episode of any season, whenever. And I don’t get tired of watching it, I will happily. I’ve Rewi. I’ve watched all 40 now they’re in this 47 season. I’ve seen every episode, most twice, some three times, and I haven’t hit a wall yet. You just keep watching it whenever.

Max Branstetter 51:52
That’s impressive. Survivor of the fittest, I used to I can’t get over the balloon animals thing that’s, that’s, that’s gonna come in handy down the line. You never know. All right, let’s wrap up with some rapid fire. Q, A, you ready for it?

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 52:09
Ready.

Max Branstetter 52:10
Alright, Let’s Get Wild. So this is more of like a survivor physical competition. I’ve arranged for 14 balloons to be delivered, and you’re gonna have, no I’m just gonna now we’ve talked about NYC a lot. You’ve now lived in three different parts of the city. So you lived in kind of Hell’s Kitchen, slash Columbus Circle area. You live in East Village. You’ve lived in Murray Hill or Midtown East area. Just like first thing that comes to your mind, like, which of those three is your favorite region? I told you, we’re pulling up.

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 52:41
Okay, uh, well, that’s a tough question. This is Quick Fire. Okay, no, take time. All right. Favorite part to live, I would say the Midtown East Mary Hill area. I think it’s more livable. There is better food in East Village and West Village. But yes,

Max Branstetter 53:08
I think my favorite answer of that was

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 53:12
No, that’s a tough question neighborhood. I feel like every neighborhood in Manhattan has something about it that could pull you, but I think maybe it just depends on where you are in your life, or, you know what you’re looking for the most. And East Village is a little too hectic for me, but

Max Branstetter 53:29
you hinted at, or, I guess we thoroughly covered, again, the butterfly Costa Rica story earlier. But what we didn’t really touch on in your upbringing, in your college era, was that, like you, did some amazing trips, and we kind of made family trips around it. So, like, you had some, I don’t know if you call them medical internships or whatever you call it, but like, you had a thing in Costa Rica that we made that awesome Costa Rica trip around. We didn’t get to Peru, but you did a Peru thing too. And then you also did a thing in Germany, and we made a, like, a Germany and Europe trip around that, other than the butterflies, which I know you still think about, haunts you every night before bed. What is your favorite memory from, like, either one of those, or just overall, like a family trip

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 54:10
the most? Yeah, positive memory would be. So in in Germany, I met you guy. So I was at a music festival in the hills of Salzburg, Austria. This sounds like the start of the sound of music. Yeah, yeah. I didn’t shower for over three days because, I think I didn’t bring a towel or something. For some reason I didn’t shower at the Music Festival.

Max Branstetter 54:37
That’s a slightly younger Andrew, and I

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 54:42
was so dirty and like, my hair was just like, so like, caked, like together, and I got to Munich, where you all were, my first shower. There was my most positive memory. Yeah. In the hotel. Like, it just that was amazing and and to kind of end, because I had already been living in Germany for a couple months at that point, and so, you I was done with my, like, little internship I was doing, and you guys were the tail end of that trip. And so to have like, a family trip at the end was just, like, awesome. But that, like that getting I took like, this small bus from Austria to you guy, and like, it was just gross. And I was like, I can’t wait to get out of here.

Max Branstetter 55:27
You still smell, by the way, but your hair looks great, though. All right, any of you knows you closely knows that you’re allergic to peanut butter or peanuts all the above. If you didn’t have that allergy, what’s one peanut butter related thing that you would love to try.

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 55:43
I mean, everyone talks just about a like, one of those giant Reese’s cups. Oh, the big cups. Yeah, a big cup,

Max Branstetter 55:52
Thiqqq

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 55:53
but it with tree nuts also, because I’m allergic to those, like, just being able to have pesto and not worry about the pine nut in it, like whenever I want that would be. That would be amazing.

Max Branstetter 56:05
Would this be a bad time to tell you we’re having pesto right after all? Right? Dana will love this one. One of our favorite memories from our wedding was your best man speech, and we’ve probably watched it. I mean, at the time of this recording, it was recently our anniversary again, but crazy every year, how that happens. But we probably watched it like 100 times and again, it was like biased, but I think unbiased too. Like best bet, best best man speech ever. And from my perspective, it turned into like a roast of me, which is pretty funny, but it was amazing. But no, you were the best. You did the long standing arms dance. You did everything you called up my fashion sense, which has improved a lot, maybe a little bit. Now, all credit goes to Dana. But what advice do you have for anybody, like planning a like a best man or maid of honor, like a speech like that at a, you know, huge life moment in front of everybody, like, what do you think, besides roasting me? What do you think? Like, worked well leading up to that,

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 57:06
I’ll admit I didn’t write it until the day before.

Max Branstetter 57:10
Wow, I have to call this out. So Dana, who’s here with us for this recording, I haven’t seen her mouth drop like that since Emmy and Karen and Scott were here and surprised her when we got engaged, and made this surprise visit here. So anyway, well,

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 57:25
I think for me, you know, going to weddings and friends weddings, and you hear a lot of speeches, a lot of them are just adequate, and I, and I just wanted one that was a little spicier and just to be a little more of a roast, is what like I wanted to be. I wanted to be more humor in it, but kind of like intertwined with more emotional things. And I think also for me, like I was expecting the maid of honor speech, also was going to be more emotional and sweeter, which Emmy rock did. Yeah, it was fantastic. But I wanted, like, a different energy, and I wanted to also go with what I know better, which I think is some humor. We’ll see. I might be biased there, but no, it was amazing. Yeah, so that was what I was thinking. Like, I kind of wanted to just, and it’s not, I put it down on paper the day before. I had been thinking about it for weeks and weeks, but, and then

Max Branstetter 58:28
you promptly threw it on the ground as part of your, your whole thing. No, Dan, and I still talk about how like that was, like, we view it as like, a gift you did for like, that was amazing. And I still, like, I was crying, crying laughing at the same time it was, it was amazing. And I’m infinitely faster and more fashionable, and my hair is takes less time to put together now. Now is awesome. So All right, last one, what is a lesson from mom and or dad that they just kind of taught us about life in general, that still sticks with you today.

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 59:03
It taught a lot, but one that I’ve been appreciating more recently is to just see things and see the world. You know, we grew up traveling a lot, mostly in the Caribbean and around the US, but yeah, like, don’t be afraid to go out of your comfort zone and do an experience that is different.

Max Branstetter 59:25
Yeah, that’s, I couldn’t have said it better myself. That’s awesome. Like, I mean, they did such a good job with us, and we got to see so many things, and they built such, like, a solid like, I mean, going, even going back to what you’re saying at the start about like, being confident and like, high self esteem in that like opportunities that they support us doing, like, just amazing. So obviously, big shout out to mom and dad. But Dr Andrew Branstetter, I believe that pretty much brings us to the end. Thank you so much for doing this, highly requested, but I know it’s tough with your schedule. It’s tough with like, the thing. We can talk about or can’t talk about with HIPAA, like, thank you so much for doing this, and I sorry. I’m gonna get sappy for a moment. I always think about how like, like, I’m equally, like, as proud of you as I am, like, inspired by you. And like, look up to you. I don’t know if that’s looking up or like, physically looking up because you’re taller, but no, you just like, I’m just so proud of you. Like, you’ve kind of, like, you figure out you wanted to do something in the medical space, and you’ve, like, knocked it out of the absolute Park. And obviously, even going back to, like, growing up, like, your grades and everything in there is awesome, and sports and like, and you’re just a hell of a dude. You’re a hell of a stallion. And so it’s always kind of funny, because, like, You’re my little brother, but I look up to you. And so this is really, really special, an awful segue. But where’s the best place to if somebody wants to connect with you? Obviously they can check out your Instagram and your 14 million followers, but if there’s if somebody wants to connect with you, like, would it be to your Instagram or like or not at all? Is there anywhere if people also edit this out,

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 1:01:08
the Instagram’s fine. I get notifications. I just don’t post, what’s

Max Branstetter 1:01:12
your what’s your table.

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 1:01:13
It’s very original. It’s Andrew Branstetter. Alternatively, you can Venmo me, and then I will respond to you as a thank you.

Max Branstetter 1:01:24
Perfect. And Venmo is no, I’m just going, No, no, okay, awesome. Thanks again. Instagram, you know you can go into an ER unit with an ailment and meet him in PERT. No, I’m just going don’t do that, but unless you need it. But last thing, final thoughts. It could be a quote, Words To Live By. It could be your original lyrics to your long, skinny arms, dance, whatever you want, send us home here. And oh, by the way, as Josh Peck said, love you brother. Okay, sorry. Go ahead,

Dr. Andrew Branstetter 1:01:57
take a breather to just take a step back and breathe and think about your next actions, because that’s what I do at work.

Max Branstetter 1:02:09
Dr. Skinny Arms. First Name, Long. Andrew. Thank you so much for coming on the podcast, sharing your wild story, for being the best brother in the world. And thank you, Wild Listeners for tuning in to another episode. If you want to hear more Wild stories like this one, make sure to Follow the Wild Business Growth podcast on your favorite podcast app. You could check out the previous Thanksgiving family, or family business episodes there from previous years. I’m just gonna see how many times I could say previous. And make sure to Subscribe on YouTube for the video versions. YouTube is @MaxBranstetter. You can also find us on Goodpods, and for any help with podcast production, you can learn more at MaxPodcasting.com and sign up for the Podcasting to the Max newsletter. That is short and sweet, typically every Thursday, where podcasting meets entrepreneurship and the worst puns Andrew has ever heard, that’s for sure. You can sign up at MaxPodcasting.com/Newsletter. Until next time, Let your business Run Wild…Bring on the Bongos!!