This is the full transcript for Episode #212 of the Wild Business Growth Podcast featuring Gogie Padilla – Scam Swatter, Founder of Answer Sure. You can listen to the interview and learn more here. Please note: this transcript is not 100% accurate.
Gogie Padilla 0:00
Bet on yourself. You know, as long as it’s something you really want to do, go for it well, why hello.
Max Branstetter 0:21
Welcome back to the Wild Business Growth Podcast. This is your place to hear from a new entrepreneur every single Wednesday morning who’s turning Wild ideas into Wild growth. I’m your host, Max Branstetter, Founder and Podcast Producer at MaxPodcasting. And you can email me at
Greg Branstetter 2:23
I’ve never heard anyone say a bad word about my dad mentioned that 60 years, hundreds of events 1000s of people, not one single bad word about Fred. He was quite simply a nice guy, which is much harder to achieve and maintain than it appears. He was filled with an old time country wisdom that he shared with us his story and his actions his entire life. Among the many gifts that he passed on to us, kids and grandkids, our positive thinking, a strong work ethic, the belief that you are responsible for your life, the ability to walk into a room full of strangers, and start a conversation with anyone how to find humor in almost any situation, and most importantly, how to treat people well. He was funny, with the ability to turn in even the smallest most random story into a humorous tale with his way of talking. He used dozens of phrases, many of which I’ve already used today, which we call Fredisms, some of the favorites where if you’re waiting on me, you’re losing time. Don’t stick beings up your nose. And my favorite when excited he would say well saw my legs often call me short. As a child with depression growing up on a family farm with nine brothers and sisters, Fred had to learn early how to make the best out of whatever was available. And he was constantly devising creative ways to fix things around the house as we grew up. We call this red rain. And it usually involves some combination of a rubber band, ice kit, paper clips, and the beloved duct tape. Fred loved sports as you can see over here and on the picture especially basketball and baseball, play basketball for New Washington High School and later love to play with us in the side yard around the world with the neighborhood kids where he taught us on his classic set shot. He attended Jeff High basketball games for more than 50 years both home and away. Followed the Red Devils on their tournament trail many many years and yeah, I think back as an adult like how this guy stood on his feet in the factory 40 hours during the week. But when Friday afternoon came and there was a Jeff Hi game. He was still with energy. couldn’t wait to get there. Even watch half the TV game lots of time. Would have gone to all of it if Barb let him. He was an avid Cincinnati Reds fan. With dozens of trips to watch games and three different city ballparks over the years. And the Reds on TV and radio was a constant fixture in our life, as later was watching a basketball, Mr. B as he was known as a little league coach for several years. Several of his former players showed up here this weekend. He was competitive, but not too much. And he always made sure the experience was fun for everyone. Later, he always loved it when he ran into some of his former players and hear him share stories about the old days and learn about what was new in their life. As a coach, he impacted a lot of people in ways we never knew. I recently was told a story by one of his former players who sit in the middle of the game, my dad called timeout and walked to the mountain to change pictures. While this was going on a base runner up from the other team is talking to Fred second baseman and he said You’re so lucky to play for Mr. Branstetter. The love of his life Barb, who’s pictured right there. They enjoyed 60 years of marriage. A rich full life filled with family friends travel, lots of laughter. Even at the end with dementia and Alzheimer’s had ravaged them both. A Memory Care Nurse referred to them as two peas in a pod. Their courtship was kind of like a 1950s movie. It started out with young Fred driving around and his sharp new car downtown Louisville trying to catch the eye of the ladies. And Fred went into the Blue Boar Cafeteria where my mom worked as a supervisor, waitresses for his daily slice of pie. After a few days, barber who knew of him said to the waitress, I’ll take this, I can this guy. So she started serving his pie. And he would go back there every day for a week. And every day she’d do it and bring a slightly larger piece of pie. Which he later told us he said, I knew she’s kind of sweet on me. So he asked her out and that was the start of a beautiful 60 years together. You know, none of us are perfect. Despite this agenda, generally positive nature. Fred was not in a few suit with his praise. But he tried. In fact, he told us at one time, when he was dating, he struggled to come up with something nice to say to his date. And all he could find was You sure don’t sweat much for fat girl.
We could go on for hours with little Fred’s stories. But we’re not able to do that here. I want to talk a little bit about the last few years is Alzheimer’s journey. Where this horrible disease robbed him of pretty much everything except his ability to make others smile and laugh. This disease eventually forced his self reliant man to become totally dependent on his caregivers to assist with every aspect of his life. And yet, he retained a positive attitude. In the last year, when asked how he was doing, Fred would give a slight smile and say, just plug in a law. You continue to impact others all the way to the very end. All of us kids were amazed in the past week to see how much his decline and eventual death affected those who took care of him and Autumn Woods. They said he was like family to them. And they called him nicknames like Freddy blue eyes. The hospice chaplain who actually stopped by earlier today, and only met with Fred a few times near the end, said, quote, your dad always reflected the persona of a perfect gentleman. As a father and he gave us setting guidance and support. He allowed us to do our own thing. Even when I met we made some mistakes along the way. And he was always very proud of whatever we achieved. He will always be with us in memories and part of our souls and daily life. This easygoing farmer and factory worker created a world where his children and grandchildren would grow to become lawyers, doctors, business owners, school teachers. I’ll finish with a brief tribute to his hard years of work and International Harvester but he tell us that he walked past his co workers and their machines and they shout, how’s it going Fred? And he gives them a special hand yester he called the harvester way, which meant that everything is green. So You dad, I say on behalf of all of us, we love you. And we’ll see you later
Max Branstetter 10:09
harvester wave forever. Love you Freddy. Love you, Dad, thank you for for reading that. Thank you to the amazing people at Scott Funeral home for providing that. And if you’re intrigued by Fred’s life and would like to learn a little bit more, my dad actually recorded a whole separate podcast called forever, Fred. So there are a bunch of different chapters bunch of different episodes about different phases of Fred’s life, ranging from the early years to family trips, all sorts of different sports. And it is an incredible Listen, you’ll especially appreciate it if you’re if you’re part of our family. But I think even if we aren’t technically related, you might, you might find it interesting as well. And I gotta say, it’s, it’s pretty well done. So check out forever, Fred, wherever you prefer to listen to podcasts. Now, let’s switch it up just a bit. And get to today’s amazing awesome guest Gogie Padilla Answer Sure. It is Gogie. Enjoy the show.
All righty. We are here with Gogie Padilla the creator of Answer Sure a business based around something that I think everybody has experienced in some sense in their life being attempted scammed or spam calls, robo calls everything in that category, that it’s just oh, so fun to deal with. So Gogie thank you so much, one for starting your business, but also for joining us here today. How are you doing today?
Gogie Padilla 11:41
I’m doing great. Thank you for having me.
Max Branstetter 11:44
Of course, of course. And before we get into it, I do want to shout out our mutual buddy, Lisa askeleen, aka the adventurous who’s been on my show before I know you’ve been on her show before. And we’ve we’ve all collaborated with her in a number of ways, but she’s just awesome. And one of my favorite people in the world and she actually connected us in the first place. So shout out Lisa and shout out the adventurers who is the same person but
Gogie Padilla 12:11
absolutely.
Max Branstetter 12:13
So we’re gonna get to the Answer Sure story. And surely we will. But before that, I’m curious what was the actual, the incident like the straw that broke the camel’s back in your life or your family’s life in terms of attempted scam calls or attempts.
Gogie Padilla 12:35
In 2019, my mom was almost a victim of a scam. The scammer was so bold as he actually came to her front door in the guise of her banks representative. And also with the tale of picking up her defective bank card that he needed to retrieve to take back to the bank. After that happen. Again, fortunately, she was not a victim. However, that was too close for comfort for myself and my siblings. So we went in a hunt on in search of a device or service that would create a barrier I was looking for barrier so that we could protect our mother.
Max Branstetter 13:25
I mean, it’s alarming. It’s it’s scary just when it happens over phone or email or you know, communication like that, but actually showing up at the front door like that takes on a whole other levels. Like what what was your reaction to hearing? What was transcending there?
Gogie Padilla 13:41
Well, shock. Number one, I was very fortunate, we were very fortunate that a family member was visiting my mother at the time. And quickly, you know, escorted the man away, who I might say look like he was a bank manager in a suit, tie wingtips, you name it. But I was I was livid. Shocked, scared. Number one very, very fearful. My mom lives on her own. She lived on her own then and she lives on her own now. Very independent woman. Also a little sad, because I knew that things were changing for her that this happened because this person was able to retrieve some information that we did not believe she would have given out those words.
Max Branstetter 14:27
Scared shocked. Sad. I know you had some other ones as well. But the point of it is that’s not fun for anybody. And they’re crazy amount of, you know, these attempted crimes going on every day. Now. I mean, I know that, you know, I’ve had grandparents and I’ve got close friends and you know, family members whose grandparent well some of those share the same grandparent but who have been affected by this as well and sometimes it actually can result in you know, serious financial loss as well as, you know, the emotional damage of it as well. And you know, it does leave you scared and shocked. And do you know how widespread scam is like this scam calls and the impact of that is kind of on a yearly basis,
Gogie Padilla 15:19
within 2021, there were billions be billions lost to scams in the United States alone. scams are done worldwide. But the United States is definitely a main target for it. My research and just getting into this and finding out some information. It’s the very young teenagers, and the very old that the scammers really start targeting on everybody in between we’re vulnerable. But those are the prime targets for them.
Max Branstetter 15:57
I get in totally expected that it’s often the elderly that are attacked, and you hear about elderly crime and how how common it is. Why do you think the young the young people are targeted as well, I
Gogie Padilla 16:12
think that you know it, they give us stories about quick money or, you know, certain things that the young people would want and could find available. I’m not gonna get this right. But maybe a PS seven was really popular last year or the year before? I
Max Branstetter 16:33
have no idea. So I think you’re exactly right.
Gogie Padilla 16:37
And I, you know, I’ve heard of, you know, some young people getting calls about, you know, they put online that they want, we’re looking for it, and people are calling them saying, oh, yeah, we have one, you know, put the money, I’ll send it to you. So young people as much as they’re savvy, and they are, they also have a high degree of wanting things instantly. And as quickly as they can get it. So they are susceptible, as we all are, I mean, I just don’t want to point them out. But the the numbers, the information says that those two demographics are really targeted.
Max Branstetter 17:20
So let’s get to Answer Sure. Which, by the way, personally, do you say sure, or sure, because I’ve heard it from both ways from? Everybody says it differently. I feel like
Gogie Padilla 17:29
Answer Sure. Sure. Perfect. All right.
Max Branstetter 17:34
What were your first steps in actually starting the business?
Gogie Padilla 17:36
A lot of research, because this is not my background, I don’t have a securities background. I knew what I was looking for, in the sense of, I wanted a barrier. I didn’t want my mother’s phone to ring if it wasn’t for her. So I did a lot of research about scams, all types of scams, particularly phone scams. So I had some idea and could really speak about it a little bit. Anyway. After that, I took pen to paper and wrote out what I my ideal scenario was, since I couldn’t find it, I was thinking, how can I create it, and really speaking to quite a few people, my husband included to get some seeds of advice and ideas. And I got the shell of it. And I just started saying, Okay, what do I need to have a call service? And that’s pretty, I won’t say easy, but the steps are there online. Okay, what are the things are needed to create this barrier. And it was really one thing, I hate the word organic, but it was really organic. It was I learned and then found information, learn more things, found some more information. So it grew from just keeping being curious and wanting to get something in place.
Max Branstetter 19:06
What aspect so like there’s a whole a whole as a tongue twister, there’s a whole world you can Google now. And I think that’s a beautiful thing as a as a new entrepreneur is I think you went about it in such the right way of like, Okay, what’s next? Let me dive in and learn about this. And let’s knock it out. And Okay, on to the next thing. So that’s a great way to do it. Of those different aspects. Like you mentioned, the call servers, there’s plenty of other aspects in there. Which one would you say has had the biggest learning curve?
Gogie Padilla 19:37
Hmm, that’s a great question. The call center the call center that’s something you know, I I never said set one up. I knew they existed but to set one up was Yeah, it took some some doing I’m also on the telephone service because part of our Service is a landline service. They still exist. Many people have, there are 10s of millions of landlines out there. And most of them are owned by older people, learning the capabilities of what I could do with those parameters that can’t change the telephone. What the telephone does that fit? I got to work within that. So those those two components were the biggest learning curves for me. Hey, you
Max Branstetter 20:25
never know everything comes back into style. I mean, you know, 2030 years from now, landlines might you know, who cares about cell phones? We have landlines again. So you never know.
Gogie Padilla 20:34
Max, Max, I gotta tell you, I’m, I’m with you, you know, the population is getting older. And that is something that are at least today, for our older citizens. They’re very secure with landlines. So who’s to say?
Max Branstetter 20:52
Right, yeah, and there’s something to be said about something being, you know, like, hard connected, like, as we speak right now, like, I do all my remote interviews these days, plugged in via hard-wired ethernet. And it’s just more dependable than, you know, remote WiFi far away from the router, obviously, but so you segwayed swimmingly for us. You mentioned landline, you mentioned mobile. So exactly. Can you break down what services you offer? With answer? Sure,
Gogie Padilla 21:23
sure. With answers show, we have two landline plans two services. One is a representative service, like its name a human being, you’ll be interacting with a human being. And the other is our automated service, which is done electronically by a numeric code. We also have the answer shore app, which works like many apps out there that, you know, try to help with this crime. That’s what it is. However, with our app, we have two features that I think adds a little bit more utility to it, in that we have remote subscribing, meaning one person could purchase and place the apps on multiple phones, and only the purchaser needs a login or password. And we also have communication that in our research, we found that these two things the people forgetting their login and password was a was a main factor and an issue and also, people with such apps like ours, they complained that they couldn’t speak to anyone or they couldn’t reach out to anyone, there was no kind of communication with if there was something they wanted to say get to the app company. So we have a survey, a form of communication, which our app users receive a survey, they can reply, we get it in real time. It’s not as open as like sending an email and getting an email back. However, it does offer some communication that we can learn what we’re doing right what we’re not doing right. also hear from our clients directly. Can you
Max Branstetter 23:12
walk us through? Let’s talk about from the cell phones last smartphone/smartphone lens? If I’m a Answer Sure user/subscriber/customer, I’ll stop with the slashes. I don’t know why I’m doing that so much. But if I if I’m one of your customers, and someone tries to call me or maybe it’s a robo call, you know, attempting to scam me, what does that look like? How does what is the barrier look like? Their
Gogie Padilla 23:43
barrier is millions of known scam robo calls, we’ll put it onto the the umbrella of scam numbers that are known that we have a database that we use is a dynamic database. It’s live in the sense that new numbers are added to it every day. Those numbers cannot bring your cell phone. Now that’s not saying that every scam spam number is in that list. So I mean, this is the issue with these apps. Numbers are infinite. So as much as you can have millions, billions of known scam numbers, there’s still scam numbers out there that we don’t have. That’s why it’s dynamic. So it’s adding to it nonstop. You have client you call is coming in from any of those numbers will not bring your full period. It won’t say scam or it just won’t bring your phone a number that comes in from a scam number that we have not yet retrieved. It will and it most likely will have scam or spam that comes up on your phone. Like it would normally do. What we also offer is the ability for the client to utilize our spoofing, which is the scam scammers know that people are more readily willing to pick up a call that looks similar to their own phone number, could be a local call, most people think it’s a local call in my neighborhood with spoofing those calls, unfortunately, are scam a lot of times. So on the Answer Sure app, you can turn on and we give the client the ability to turn off on the spoofing, you know, you can block some people in your own contact list, if you choose to. With Android, you could block everybody except getting a call from your contact list, which I wish iOS would do that, but they don’t, they won’t allow you to do that. A call comes in, we don’t have it on our list. You see spam. That number then is becomes part of our list. That number will not ring again on your phone. You know, I have to be transparent to say the app will not 100% You know, curtail any scam or spam from coming to your phone? I can’t say. I can’t say. I don’t know if anyone can say that. But I can’t say that, Francis. Sure. But what it does is definitely those millions and billions of phone numbers that are known, they will ring your phone. And that list is always being updated. So that’s how the app works.
Max Branstetter 26:56
I thought you were going to be able to stop 110% of these. So it’s not. Now there’s no there’s never way completely do it. But I think what you’ve come up with is a great way. And there’s there’s many different prongs of it, which are exactly what you set out to do, which are which are barriers. And so if if I’m on the receiving end of the scam attempts, and they one either can’t get to me or they’re instantly clearly identified as somebody that’s like, yeah, don’t talk to this person. That that’s a huge help. And it could save people, a lot of time and money and emotional energy there.
Gogie Padilla 27:31
I hope. I hope that’s what that’s what I was trying to do tell you the truth,
Max Branstetter 27:35
how much of your business at the time of this recording is the representative side versus the automatic or app side,
Gogie Padilla 27:45
I have to say the representative side is really the arm of the business that has grown the most, and really garners the most interest. Again, I’m targeting everyone because I think we’re all vulnerable. However, older people are a little more vulnerable than the rest of us with the representative plan, if I may just go into how that works a little bit. And why it seems to be the area that people go to first, the client. And both for the representative plan and the automated plan. The landline phone, the client needs to secure a secondary line. Technology does not exist currently, where you can forward a phone and receive a call on that same line. So you need to create you need to have a secondary line you get that from your carrier telephone carrier. With that the client would forward their phone to the answers your call center making every call is going to be answered. That comes in for them will be answered by the ancestral cost call center. The individualized part of this piece when it comes to the landline, the client creates a password. Whatever their password is. They create it and they let answer short know what that password is. The calls come in. Good afternoon. You’ve reached the answer. Sure. To whom would you like to speak? I’d like to speak to max. Oh, sure. Here. You have Max’s password. Oh, no, I don’t. All right, no problem. I’ll take a message and we’ll get this message to max. The representative plan offers the utility of messages being taken and those messages are sent to the purchaser of the plan. If the person knew the password, hold on one moment, let me put you through the max. That call will come and it would ring your phone So with the landline service plans that we have, your phone is only going to ring once the call is vetted. So you know, it’s really for you. So that’s how the representative plan works.
Max Branstetter 30:18
It’s such a just comforting thought to know that someone is like, on your side and literally can, you know, stop these people in their tracks before they even gets to you. Which is so nice, because I think so, so much of why this happens in the first place, like successful scams from the scammer standpoint, is because they got quicker direct communication to their target. And we’re able to convince them of something or make them you know, feel nervous about something in such a quick time period. And the fact of being able to stop that in its tracks and have a you know, a live person on your side to do it is so nice.
Gogie Padilla 30:57
Thank you. Thank you. And you’re right. That’s exactly how they get people the sense of urgency and trauma. When they get you, you know, people on the line, they start with that, and they do it intentionally to get people, you know, really flustered.
Max Branstetter 31:12
Now, looking back, since you first had the inkling of the idea for Answer Sure. What would you say is an approach you’ve taken that has been the most valuable as an entrepreneur?
Gogie Padilla 31:26
Not taking no as the answer is an answer. There’s always a way, there was always a way, if I can say something 100% There is always a way. So I found I’m very tenacious, that’s just part of my DNA anyway. But I definitely have become more so with this with answer Sure. But that’s something that I feel I’ve learned. And I’ve grown.
Max Branstetter 32:03
So let’s switch gears a little bit. Let’s get to more you as a business owner, but also, you know, outside of work on the personal side, how you stay inspired how you stay creative. So, first of all, what what do you do in your free time, which I know there’s not much when you’re starting a business, but what do you what do you do in your free time to help kind of clear your mind and help you stay fresh and creative.
Gogie Padilla 32:23
I’m a walker, I love to walk. I love to be out in nature. I know it’s getting cold but jacket and earmuffs soon. I love my family, I hang out with my family a lot. I there’s some of the smartest wittiest people I know, I come from a family of really very entrepreneurial thinking, in their approach to things, you know, well, why not? You know, that’s, if not now when those kinds of so they are a great inspiration. They helped me to stay focused, but also to give me the self belief and continuing to move forward.
Max Branstetter 33:06
That’s a great and amazing support system to have when you’re when you’re when you’re encouraged, as opposed to you know, the focusing on the negative. That’s super inspiring for entrepreneur, anybody besides Google, which obviously can be any aspiring entrepreneurs best friend, is there a site or maybe a person as somebody or something that’s been, you know, invaluable to you in terms of your research for learning about all this, you know, all these games and everything you’ve looked up, it’s part of the business,
Gogie Padilla 33:39
my mom, because while she was able to create it for her, I really, I can be very honest with you. I wasn’t looking to start a business, I was looking to protect my mother. So this was created to protect her. So I needed her input on how it was working. And, you know, I needed to tweak maybe some things, but it was invaluable, because, first of all, she’s my mother. She’s going to tell me the truth. And it worked. That’s number one. Number two is I listened to podcasts. There were some podcasts out there and one in particular and I’m not gonna say his name correctly.
Max Branstetter 34:22
Max Branstetter.
Gogie Padilla 34:24
No, it was years ago.
Max Branstetter 34:30
I was there years ago.
Gogie Padilla 34:32
It was a podcast Marketplace. They had a series it was a series on this podcast called The Age of Fraud. And it really went in depth they showed people that when victims It was sad, enlightening, also really enraging. You know, it kind of gave me the shot in the arm. You know, people people are really destroying lives not just victims, but the victims, families, seniors, retirees, they worked all their lives. And here comes someone and swoops and takes out their all life savings. It was just infuriating. Anyway, on this podcast, they also had a part of their series called Brains and Losses, which equated age, with a different way of thinking being a little bit more trusting as we get older. And after I heard that podcast, is when I mean, I knew I didn’t want the phone to ring. I didn’t want to put the onus on my mother anymore to, you know, look at a caller ID and decipher if she knew the number, but I really got validation that you know what, we have to put a barrier, we cannot just say, Oh, let the phone ring and they’ll decide. I have to put a barrier that if it’s not for my client, their phone should not ring period. Because cognitively through this podcast I learned. Yeah, there’s a physiological thing that happens to the brain as we get older. It’s not the full
Max Branstetter 36:20
let’s wrap up with some Rapid-Fire Q&A. Are you ready for it?
Gogie Padilla 36:23
I’m getting ready. Yes.
Max Branstetter 36:24
Ready? All right. All right. Get ready. We’re doing some jumping jacks we’re getting now. Let’s get Wild. What is the most common scam that you hear about?
Gogie Padilla 36:36
Grandparents Scam. Yeah. That scam someone is calling. And they’re frantic, saying your grandchild. Sometimes they have a name. Sometimes they don’t. your grandchild is in the hospital, they’re in jail. They’re in another country, and they need for 300 1000s of dollars to get out. And the grandparent goes off and buys all these, you know, money cards. And since the grandparent scam,
Max Branstetter 37:05
it’s terrible. And and sometimes you think, you know, for somebody who uses, you know, email a lot or gets a lot of calls. Like for some people it might be like, Oh, this is an obvious scam. But for some people it might not be so obvious, you really got to be careful. What is a, I call them weird talents, but it could be viewed as a party trick or just something that you’re really good at, but it really doesn’t affect your business. It’s just like, hey, I’m actually pretty good at that.
Gogie Padilla 37:31
You know, in my in my past life, I was a fundraiser and I raised money for other people and organizations. I was pretty good at that. I was pretty good at that. I would say raising money for organizations or other people not good raising it for myself though. Well, I was
Max Branstetter 37:50
gonna say that that’s a that’s a good trait to have and it opens a lot of doors for people but also it you know if you ever in that situation as a business owner it’s it’s a fantastic trait to have if you want to go that route. So what is the best thing or short quote that you ever heard from a customer about your business?
Gogie Padilla 38:13
That it has given me peace of mind.
Max Branstetter 38:17
Oh, that’s I just got like a warm feeling rush over me when you set that up. So that’s so nice.
Gogie Padilla 38:21
Yeah, no, that was that was
Max Branstetter 38:23
even more rewarding. And then last one, what what would be your your dream place to walk just for like a quick morning walk or whatever your routine is?
Gogie Padilla 38:32
A beach in the Maldives.
Max Branstetter 38:35
Yeah, sounds that sounds very nice. Awesome. No hesitation. I love it. Well, Gogie thank you so much. This has been fantastic. And I really, really appreciate all you do. And I mean, I think what you said kind of in that inspiration segment really struck me is it’s, you know, you’re not somebody that was going out and we’re like, Alright, I’m gonna start a business no matter what, as kind of the opposite of Alright, I want to protect my mom. And there’s lots of other people out there that have been in situations like this as well and I want to protect them. Use it yourself. That’s an extremely organic way to start a business. So I’m fired up just hearing about that. So thanks again for coming on. And where’s the best place for people to learn about and sign up for answers shore as well as if they want to get in contact with you personally?
Gogie Padilla 39:22
Absolutely. First of all, thank you, Max. That was that was very nice. I appreciate that. My pleasure. Our website it’s best place to really gathering information about us and how to move forward is AnswerSure.com www.AnswerSure.com. We have a phone number and people told me Oh, don’t get a phone number. I believe in a phone number and a human being pick up the phone to absolutely yeah 732-702-0010 And an email, which will I will get the email. No one else is
Max Branstetter 40:03
Perfect. And then last thing here Final Thoughts. It could be just little words of wisdom to live by, or you could sing your favorite song you listened to while you want and I’m just gonna send us home.
Gogie Padilla 40:16
You know what a friend told me something and it’s rung in my ear for the last three years. I’m betting on myself. bet on yourself. You know, as long as it’s something you really want to do, go for it.
Max Branstetter 40:32
bet on yourself and bet on Gogie. Gogie, thank you so much for sharing your surely wonderful answers your story, and all the all the tips and building the business finding research, all your stories and tips and wonderful entrepreneurship lessons. And thank you Wild listeners for tuning in to another episode. If you want to hear more Wild stories like this one, make sure to follow the Wild Business Growth Podcast on your favorite app and tell a friend about the podcast. You can also find us on Goodpods where there are some pretty good podcasts. And for any help with podcast production, you can learn more at MaxPodcasting.com and sign up for the Podcasting to the Max newsletter at MaxPodcasting.com/Newsletter Until next time, which actually won’t be next week because Dana and I as I mentioned are getting married we’re going not not full honeymoon right away. That will be next summer but a bit of a minimoon right after. So taking a week off on the podcast after that. And then we will get back to our regularly scheduled Wild programming after that. And we’ll be we’ll be married people. Until next time, though, let your business Run Wild. Bring on the bongos!
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