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					<description><![CDATA[Ken Gavranovic, the Serial Entrepreneur and Board Member of Product Genius, joins the Wild Business Growth podcast to share his journey from growing up poor to leading several exits.]]></description>
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<p>Take the risk. That&#8217;s the story of this week&#8217;s <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth</em></a>&nbsp;podcast guest, Ken Gavranovic. Ken is the Serial Entrepreneur and Board Member of Product Genius. Listen to the episode on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wild-business-growth-podcast/id1422144338?mt=2" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6mSUsqYobBljhKIuK9sKJV" target="_blank">Spotify</a>, and your other favorite <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">podcast platforms</a>, and watch on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPJ7ovuCpHVg7SJchnF2BZg" target="_blank">YouTube</a>.</p>



<ul><li><a href="#episode-summary">Episode Summary &amp; Player</a></li><li><a href="#full-transcript">Full Transcript</a></li><li><a href="#show-notes">Show Notes</a></li><li><a href="#podcast-summary"><em>Wild Business Growth </em>podcast Summary</a></li></ul>



<h2 id="episode-summary">Episode 328: Ken Gavranovic – Growing Your Business, Product Genius</h2>



<p>Ken Gavranovic, the Serial Entrepreneur and Board Member of Product Genius, joins the show to share his journey from growing up poor to leading several exits. Hear the 80’s movie that rocked his world, how to lead your company toward IPO, how to best spend your time as an entrepreneur, how to start a business in the AI space, and how improv helps you as a business owner.&nbsp;This episode covers everything from Dial-up Internet to skydiving. Here&#8217;s a small sample of what you will hear in this episode:</p>



<ul><li>What was the Internet like when Ken started Web.com</li><li>How do you IPO</li><li>Cricket Business 🙂</li><li>What&#8217;s the best indicator of business success</li><li>How did Ken fly a fighter jet</li></ul>



<p>Connect with Ken at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://kengavranovic.com/" target="_blank">KenGavranovic.com</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://productgenius.guru/" target="_blank">ProductGenius.Guru</a>, and on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/gavranovic" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a>.</p>



<h2 id="full-transcript"></h2>



<p>Enjoy the shoooooow! Check out the show notes below for much more detail. You can also find the full transcript <a href="https://maxpodcasting.com/ken-gavranovic-transcript/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">here</a>.</p>



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<h2 id="show-notes"><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2>



<ul><li><strong>Intro &amp; Web.com</strong><ul><li>[0:30] Email me at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="mailto:max&#64;&#104;i&#112;p&#111;&#100;ir&#101;ct&#46;com" target="_blank">m&#97;&#120;&#64;m&#97;x&#112;&#111;d&#99;a&#115;t&#105;n&#103;&#46;&#99;&#111;&#109;</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool</li></ul><ul><li>[0:40] Connect with Ken at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://kengavranovic.com/" target="_blank">KenGavranovic.com</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://productgenius.guru/" target="_blank">ProductGenius.Guru</a>, and on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/gavranovic" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a></li><li>[2:08] How did the movie <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086567/" target="_blank">WarGames</a></em> inspire Ken </li><li>[3:35] What was his favorite part of the movie</li><li>[4:36] What was the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.britannica.com/technology/Internet" target="_blank">Internet</a> like when he started <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.web.com/" target="_blank">Web.com</a></li><li>[5:18] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://stockx.com/" target="_blank">StockX</a></li><li>[5:33] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/glossary/dialup/?srsltid=AfmBOopwSrVWHGsSY6nZ0Ak0ZaYAn0fQQUDNlt7FB8tBLCVEPgeMFToK" target="_blank">Dial-up Internet</a></li><li>[5:38] Shoutout, Barb &amp; Fred!</li><li>[6:56] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/revenue.asp" target="_blank">Revenue</a></li><li>[7:58] How do you <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/ipos" target="_blank">IPO</a> (Initial Public Offering)</li><li>[9:08] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/v/venturecapital.asp" target="_blank">VC</a> (Venture Capital) </li></ul></li></ul>



<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-large is-resized"><img loading="lazy" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/SquadShot-Ken-Gavranovic-1024x538.png" alt="SquadShot Ken Gavranovic" class="wp-image-10445" width="740" height="389" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/SquadShot-Ken-Gavranovic-1024x538.png 1024w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/SquadShot-Ken-Gavranovic-400x210.png 400w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/SquadShot-Ken-Gavranovic-768x403.png 768w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/SquadShot-Ken-Gavranovic-500x263.png 500w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/SquadShot-Ken-Gavranovic-400x210@2x.png 800w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/SquadShot-Ken-Gavranovic.png 1200w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/SquadShot-Ken-Gavranovic-500x263@2x.png 1000w" sizes="(max-width: 740px) 100vw, 740px" /><figcaption>Kenny G</figcaption></figure></div>



<ul><li><strong>Growing Your Business</strong><ul><li>[10:41] How do you grow your business</li><li>[12:16] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.f6s.com/companies/cricket/mo" target="_blank">Cricket Business</a> 🙂</li><li>[13:12] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/billgurley" target="_blank">Bill Gurley</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.benchmark.com/" target="_blank">Benchmark</a>, <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11173006/" target="_blank">Super Pumped</a></em></li><li>[14:08] What&#8217;s the best indicator of business success</li><li>[15:25] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.tiktok.com/@binge/video/7304943526926699783?lang=en" target="_blank">Rich Mahogany</a> from <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0357413/" target="_blank">Anchorman</a></em></li><li>[17:04] What&#8217;s an example of great timing</li><li>[17:24] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.mckinsey.com/featured-insights/mckinsey-explainers/what-is-generative-ai" target="_blank">Generative AI</a> aka Gen AI aka Artificial Intelligence</li><li>[17:52] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://claude.ai/" target="_blank">Claude</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://chatgpt.com/" target="_blank">ChatGPT</a></li><li>[18:02] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.productplan.com/glossary/product-market-fit/" target="_blank">Product-Market Fit</a></li><li>[18:42] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://markcubancompanies.com/" target="_blank">Mark Cuban</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadcast.com" target="_blank">Broadcast.com</a></li><li>[19:12] How do you best spend your time as a business owner</li><li>[21:16] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.whatmatters.com/faqs/okr-meaning-definition-example" target="_blank">OKRs</a> (Objectives and Key Results)</li><li>[21:55] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://newrelic.com/" target="_blank">New Relic</a> </li><li>[23:05] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://aws.amazon.com/what-is/api/" target="_blank">API</a> (Application Programming Interface), <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://kubernetes.io/" target="_blank">Kubernetes</a></li><li>[25:15] What is <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://productgenius.guru/" target="_blank">Product Genius</a></li><li>[26:12] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2022/11/taylor-swift-ticketmaster-presale-concert-tickets/672181/" target="_blank">How Taylor Swift Broke Ticketmaster</a></li><li>[28:14] How do you start a business in the AI space</li><li>[30:07] The <em>Wild Business Growth</em> podcast is on YouTube! <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/@maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Subscribe @MaxBranstetter</a> to watch full video interviews with Wild entrepreneurs like Ken</li></ul><ul><li>[30:08] Sign up for the <em>Podcasting to the Max</em> newsletter at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/newsletter/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/Newsletter</a> and receive <em>How to Edit Your Podcast in Audacity</em>. It&#8217;s where podcasting meets entrepreneurship &#8211; and terrible puns</li><li>[30:10] Such an honor speaking at Podcast Movement &#8217;23 in Denver! Sign up to grab the slides from my session at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/PM23/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/PM23</a></li></ul></li></ul>



<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-large is-resized"><img loading="lazy" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/Product-Genius-logo-1024x195.png" alt="Product Genius" class="wp-image-10451" width="668" height="126" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/Product-Genius-logo-1024x195.png 1024w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/Product-Genius-logo-400x76.png 400w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/Product-Genius-logo-768x146.png 768w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/Product-Genius-logo-500x95.png 500w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/Product-Genius-logo-400x76@2x.png 800w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/Product-Genius-logo.png 1050w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/Product-Genius-logo-500x95@2x.png 1000w" sizes="(max-width: 668px) 100vw, 668px" /></figure></div>



<ul><li><strong>The Unusual: Pet Peeves, Quirks, and Weird Talents</strong><ul><li>[30:33] What&#8217;s a Weird Talent Ken has</li><li>[31:12] What&#8217;s a quirk he has</li><li>[32:12] How does <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Improvisational_theatre" target="_blank">improv</a> help you in business</li><li>[32:42] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.rapp.com/" target="_blank">RAPP</a></li><li>[33:47] What&#8217;s Ken&#8217;s biggest pet peeve</li><li>[34:12] How did he fly a fighter jet</li></ul></li><li><strong>Rapid-Fire Q&amp;A</strong><ul><li>[35:12] What&#8217;s Ken&#8217;s favorite <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.tamu.edu/campus-community/traditions/index.html" target="_blank">Aggie tradition</a> at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.tamu.edu/index.html" target="_blank">Texas A&amp;M University</a></li><li>[35:42] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Manziel" target="_blank">Johnny Manziel</a>, <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81582385" target="_blank">Untold: Johnny Football</a></em></li><li>[35:47] What&#8217;s the most underrated part of living in <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://discoveratlanta.com/" target="_blank">Atlanta</a></li><li>[36:05] Hawaiian Chick-fil-A aka <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.chick-fil-a.com/about/s-truett-cathy-brand-restaurants/truetts-luau" target="_blank">Truett&#8217;s Luau</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.chick-fil-a.com/about/s-truett-cathy-brand-restaurants/dwarf-house" target="_blank">Dwarf House</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/cjgvte/went_to_the_chickfila_back_office_tour_they_have/" target="_blank">Chick-fil-A Batmobile</a></li><li>[36:51] How often does Ken get called <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.kennyg.com/" target="_blank">Kenny G</a></li><li>[37:18] What did he learn about money from growing up poor</li><li>[38:22] Connect with Ken at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://kengavranovic.com/" target="_blank">KenGavranovic.com</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://productgenius.guru/" target="_blank">ProductGenius.Guru</a>, and on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/gavranovic" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a></li></ul><ul><li>[39:07] What are Ken&#8217;s Final Thoughts</li></ul><ul><li>[40:04] Follow the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth</em></a> podcast and tell a friend about the podcast. And show love (or roast me) by leaving 5 stars on Apple Podcasts and/or Spotify</li></ul><ul><li>[40:08] The <em>Wild Business Growth</em> podcast is on YouTube! <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/@maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Subscribe @MaxBranstetter</a> to watch full video interviews with Wild entrepreneurs like Ken</li></ul><ul><li>[40:10] Check out the <em>Wild Business Growth</em> podcast<em> </em>on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.goodpods.com/" target="_blank">Goodpods</a>, where you can see what your favorite people are listening to</li><li>[40:16] Connect with me on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/max-branstetter-74150a57/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/maxbranstetter/" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Twitter</a> (aka <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/maxbranstetter" target="_blank">X</a>), and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.threads.net/@maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Threads</a> @MaxBranstetter and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.tiktok.com/@wildbusinessgrowth" target="_blank">TikTok</a> @WildBusinessGrowth</li></ul><ul><li>[40:19] Save time with your high-quality podcast. Email me at <a href="mailto:&#109;&#97;x&#64;m&#97;xpo&#100;&#99;a&#115;&#116;&#105;&#110;g&#46;&#99;&#111;m">&#109;a&#120;&#64;max&#112;odca&#115;ti&#110;g&#46;com</a> to bring your podcast to life and use it as a business-building tool</li><li>[40:21] Sign up for the <em>Podcasting to the Max</em> newsletter at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/newsletter/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/Newsletter</a> and receive <em>How to Edit Your Podcast in Audacity</em>. It&#8217;s where podcasting meets entrepreneurship &#8211; and terrible puns</li><li>Theme music: Freestyle Percussion Magik &#8211; &#8220;Jungle Tribe&#8221; &#8211; provided by Jamendo</li></ul></li></ul>



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<h2 id="podcast-summary"><strong>What is the <em>Wild Business Growth</em> podcast?</strong></h2>



<p>Wild ideas. Wild growth. Every Wednesday morning a new entrepreneur joins the <em>Wild Business Growth </em>podcast to share the wildly creative and unusual ways they grew their business &#8211; and teaches you how to do it, too. Hear the minds behind WordPress, Stacy&#8217;s Pita Chips, Drybar, NFL RedZone, Big Mouth Billy Bass, the voice of Bart Simpson, and more Wild stories. Hosted by <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/about/" target="_blank">Max Branstetter</a> (that&#8217;s me), Founder and Podcast Producer at MaxPodcasting.</p>



<h2><strong>How do you start a podcast?</strong></h2>



<p>Interested in starting a professional-sounding and professional-looking podcast for your brand, but don&#8217;t want to deal with the time commitment of all those behind-the-scenes details? I’ve got you covered. Email me at <a href="mailto:ma&#120;&#64;m&#97;&#120;podca&#115;&#116;&#105;&#110;g&#46;c&#111;m">&#109;&#97;x&#64;&#109;ax&#112;&#111;d&#99;&#97;&#115;&#116;&#105;&#110;&#103;.&#99;o&#109;</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool.</p>



<p>Thanks for listening to Ken Gavranovic on the <em>Wild Business Growth</em> podcast.<em> </em>To hear more Wild stories like this one every Wednesday morning, follow the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth</em></a> podcast and tell a friend about it. And take some risks. Until next time, Let your business Run Wild&#8230;and <strong><em>Bring on the Bongos!!</em></strong></p>
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		<title>Pat Yates &#8211; Wild Business Growth Podcast #246: HappyFeet Slippers and Quiet Light</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Max Branstetter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2023 08:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Pat Yates, the President of HappyFeet Slippers and Advisor at Quiet Light, joins the Wild Business Growth Podcast to share his journey from running coffee, mall kiosk, and slipper businesses to helping entrepreneurs sell their business.]]></description>
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<p>Position your business to be sold. That&#8217;s the story of this week&#8217;s <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em></a> guest, Pat Yates. Pat is the President of HappyFeet Slippers and Advisor at Quiet Light. Listen to the episode on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wild-business-growth-podcast/id1422144338?mt=2" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6mSUsqYobBljhKIuK9sKJV" target="_blank">Spotify</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://podcasts.google.com/?feed=aHR0cDovL3dpbGRidXNpbmVzc2dyb3d0aHBvZGNhc3QubGlic3luLmNvbS9yc3M%3D" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a>, and your other favorite <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">podcast platforms</a>.</p>



<ul><li><a href="#episode-summary">Episode Summary &amp; Player</a></li><li><a href="#full-transcript">Full Transcript</a></li><li><a href="#show-notes">Show Notes</a></li><li><a href="#podcast-summary"><em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em> Summary</a></li></ul>



<h2 id="episode-summary">Episode 246: Pat Yates – HappyFeet Slippers and Quiet Light</h2>



<p>Pat Yates, the President of HappyFeet Slippers and Advisor at Quiet Light, joins the show to share his journey from running coffee, mall kiosk, and slipper businesses to helping entrepreneurs sell their business. Hear how to position your business to be sold, go from entrepreneur to advisor, get better at time management, Pat’s partnership with Snooki, and how to pronounce Louisville. This episode covers everything from pedicures to ROAS. Here&#8217;s a small sample of what you will hear in this episode:</p>



<ul><li>What first sparked Pat&#8217;s interest in starting a business one day</li><li>How did he get into the slipper space</li><li>A hoppin&#8217; pun!</li><li>How did Pat start working with so many licensing partners</li><li>You&#8217;re a catch, Pat!</li><li>How do you grow your business</li><li>What&#8217;s something surprising about mall kiosks</li><li>How has running a coffee business impacted Pat&#8217;s coffee consumption</li></ul>



<p>Connect with Pat at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.buyhappyfeet.com/" target="_blank">BuyHappyFeet.com</a> and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://quietlight.com/" target="_blank">QuietLight.com</a>.</p>



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<p>Enjoy the shoooooow! Check out the show notes below for much more detail. You can also find the full transcript <a href="https://maxpodcasting.com/pat-yates-transcript/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">here</a>.</p>



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<h2 id="show-notes"><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2>



<ul><li><strong>Intro &amp; Serial Entrepreneurship</strong><ul><li>[0:31] Email me at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="mailto:&#109;ax&#64;&#104;&#105;ppod&#105;r&#101;&#99;t&#46;com" target="_blank">m&#97;&#120;&#64;m&#97;x&#112;od&#99;a&#115;t&#105;&#110;&#103;.com</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool</li><li>[0:41] Connect with Pat at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://flexscreen.com/" target="_blank">FlexScreen.com</a> and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://joealtieri.com/" target="_blank">JoeAltieri.com</a></li></ul><ul><li>[2:17] What first sparked his interest in starting a business one day</li><li>[3:38] What was it about <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">entrepreneurship</a> that attracted him </li></ul><ul><li>[4:08] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://uiausa.org/" target="_blank">United Inventors Association</a> (UIA)</li><li>[5:08] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.barbaracorcoran.com/" target="_blank">Barbara Corcoran</a></li><li>[5:20] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting</a></li><li>[5:43] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://zoom.us/" target="_blank">Zoom</a></li><li>[6:15] What was Pat&#8217;s first service business</li><li>[6:48] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.johnconti.com/" target="_blank">John Conti</a></li><li>[8:00] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.costco.com/" target="_blank">Costco</a></li></ul></li></ul>



<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-large"><img loading="lazy" width="1024" height="538" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Pat-Yates-HappyFeet-Slippers-Quiet-Light-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-246-HappyFeet-Slippers-and-Quiet-Light-1024x538.png" alt="Pat Yates - Wild Business Growth Podcast #246: HappyFeet Slippers and Quiet Light" class="wp-image-7460" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Pat-Yates-HappyFeet-Slippers-Quiet-Light-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-246-HappyFeet-Slippers-and-Quiet-Light-1024x538.png 1024w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Pat-Yates-HappyFeet-Slippers-Quiet-Light-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-246-HappyFeet-Slippers-and-Quiet-Light-400x210.png 400w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Pat-Yates-HappyFeet-Slippers-Quiet-Light-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-246-HappyFeet-Slippers-and-Quiet-Light-768x403.png 768w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Pat-Yates-HappyFeet-Slippers-Quiet-Light-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-246-HappyFeet-Slippers-and-Quiet-Light-500x263.png 500w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Pat-Yates-HappyFeet-Slippers-Quiet-Light-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-246-HappyFeet-Slippers-and-Quiet-Light-400x210@2x.png 800w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Pat-Yates-HappyFeet-Slippers-Quiet-Light-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-246-HappyFeet-Slippers-and-Quiet-Light.png 1200w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Pat-Yates-HappyFeet-Slippers-Quiet-Light-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-246-HappyFeet-Slippers-and-Quiet-Light-500x263@2x.png 1000w" sizes="(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px" /><figcaption>Pat&#8217;s a Happy guy</figcaption></figure></div>



<ul><li><strong>The HappyFeet Slippers &amp; Quiet Light Story</strong><ul><li>[8:36] How did Pat get into the slipper space with <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.buyhappyfeet.com/" target="_blank">HappyFeet Slippers</a></li><li>[8:54] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/n/noncompete-agreement.asp" target="_blank">Non-Compete Agreement</a></li><li>[9:31] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.rivergate-mall.com/" target="_blank">RiverGate Mall</a></li></ul><ul><li>[9:40] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.coolspringsgalleria.com/" target="_blank">CoolSprings Galleria</a></li><li>[9:54] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.americasmart.com/en" target="_blank">Atlanta Gift Mart</a></li><li>[10:31] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.godaddy.com/" target="_blank">GoDaddy</a></li><li>[10:42] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.sharktankblog.com/business/happy-feet/" target="_blank">Shark Tank</a></em>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.buyhappyfeet.com/collections/dreamworks" target="_blank">DreamWorks</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.buyhappyfeet.com/collections/nfl" target="_blank">NFL</a> (National Football League), <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.buyhappyfeet.com/collections/disney" target="_blank">Disney</a></li><li>[11:08] Words to live by</li><li>[11:23] What appealed to Pat about slippers as a business idea </li><li>[12:05] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.wallstreetmojo.com/lifestyle-business/#:~:text=Lifestyle%20businesses%20are%20typically%20small,outside%20investment%20to%20fund%20expansion." target="_blank">Lifestyle Business</a></li><li>[12:07] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.nbc.com/the-tonight-show" target="_blank">The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon</a></em>, <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106053/" target="_blank">Late Show with David Letterman</a></em>, <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.buyhappyfeet.com/collections/snooki/jersey-shore" target="_blank">Jersey Shore</a></em></li><li>[12:35] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.tiktok.com/en/" target="_blank">TikTok</a></li><li>[12:41] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.buyhappyfeet.com/collections/stitch" target="_blank">Stitch Slippers</a></li><li>[12:57] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://looneytunes.fandom.com/wiki/ACME" target="_blank">ACME from <em>Looney Tunes</em></a></li><li>[13:09] How did HappyFeet Slippers and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.buyhappyfeet.com/collections/snooki" target="_blank">Snooki</a> start partnering</li><li>[14:04] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/snooki?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li>[14:16] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.buyhappyfeet.com/collections/snooki/products/snookis-leopard-print-slippers-snooki-slippers-for-sale-buy-snooki-slippers" target="_blank">Leopard Slipper</a></li><li>[15:07] &#8220;<a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://youtu.be/bdYvVUKfr_I" target="_blank">NCAA TOURNAMENT PREVIEW WITH SNOOKI FROM THE JERSEY SHORE</a>&#8221; on <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.barstoolsports.com/shows/11/pardon-my-take/podcasts" target="_blank">Pardon My Take</a> (PMT)</em></li><li>[15:30] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.buyhappyfeet.com/" target="_blank">BuyHappyFeet.com</a></li><li>[15:48] How did Pat start working with so many <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://licensinginternational.org/education/what-is-licensing/#:~:text=A%20license%20is%20an%20agreement,with%20a%20product%20or%20service." target="_blank">licensing</a> partners</li><li>[16:09] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.buyhappyfeet.com/collections/dreamworks/products/dreamworks-po-slippers" target="_blank">Po Slippers</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.buyhappyfeet.com/collections/dreamworks/products/dreamworks-shrek-slippers" target="_blank">Shrek Slippers</a></li><li>[17:20] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.amazon.com/Slippers-Officially-Licensed-Character-Figural/dp/B07F4D9RLL/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?keywords=disney%2Bslippers%2Bfor%2Bwomen&amp;qid=1690976306&amp;sr=8-1-spons&amp;sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&amp;th=1&amp;psc=1" target="_blank">Disney Slippers on Amazon</a></li><li>[18:14] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/e/economy.asp" target="_blank">Economy</a></li><li>[18:56] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.walmart.com/" target="_blank">Walmart</a></li><li>[19:17] How did Pat hear about <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://quietlight.com/" target="_blank">Quiet Light</a></li><li>[19:27] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://quietlight.com/advisors/mark-daoust/" target="_blank">Mark Daoust</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://quietlight.com/advisors/joe-valley/" target="_blank">Joe Valley</a></li><li>[19:50] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/m/mergersandacquisitions.asp" target="_blank">M&amp;A</a> (Mergers &amp; Acquisition), <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.salesforce.com/in/saas/" target="_blank">SaaS</a> (Software as a Service), <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.shopify.com/blog/what-is-ecommerce#:~:text=Ecommerce%2C%20short%20for%20electronic%20commerce,or%20services%20are%20conducted%20online." target="_blank">eComm</a> (eCommerce), <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.amazon.com/" target="_blank">Amazon</a></li><li>[20:28] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://quietlight.com/advisors/brad-wayland/" target="_blank">Brad Wayland</a></li><li>[21:41] How do you go from entrepreneur to advisor</li><li>[22:51] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://apps.apple.com/us/app/facetime/id1110145091" target="_blank">FaceTime</a></li><li>[23:18] Chris Guerrera and Carmine Denisco – <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/chris-guerrera-carmine-denisco/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em> #241</a>: <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://uiausa.org/" target="_blank">United Inventors Association</a></li><li>[24:39] How do you grow your business</li><li>[25:17] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://sell.amazon.com/fulfillment-by-amazon#:~:text=FBA%2C%20also%20known%20as%20Fulfillment,and%20returns%20for%20those%20orders." target="_blank">FBA</a> (Fulfillment by Amazon)</li><li>[25:35] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.selleraccountant.com/sellers-discretionary-earnings-sde-how-to-track-this-vital-e-commerce-metric/" target="_blank">SDE</a> (Seller&#8217;s Discretionary Earnings)</li><li>[25:48] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.bigcommerce.com/ecommerce-answers/what-is-roas-calculating-return-on-ad-spend/" target="_blank">ROAS</a> (Return On Ad Spend)</li><li>[26:13] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/kevinkruse/2016/03/07/80-20-rule/" target="_blank">80/20 Rule</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.tonyrobbins.com/business/mastermind-group/" target="_blank">Masterminds</a></li><li>[26:23] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">Podcasts</a></li><li>[26:58] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://online.hbs.edu/blog/post/what-is-accrual-accounting" target="_blank">Accrual Accounting</a></li><li>[27:04] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.shopify.com/retail/cost-of-goods-sold#:~:text=Costs%20of%20goods%20sold%20(COGS)%20FAQ&amp;text=The%20cost%20of%20goods%20sold%20(COGS)%20is%20the%20total%20cost,each%20unit%20of%20inventory%20sold." target="_blank">COGS</a> (Cost of Goods Sold)</li><li>[27:35] How do you position your business to be sold</li><li>[27:50] Caught me</li><li>[28:41] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.calculator.net/salary-calculator.html" target="_blank">Salary</a></li><li>[28:53] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/profit.asp" target="_blank">Profit</a></li><li>[29:17] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/runrate.asp" target="_blank">Run Rate</a></li><li>[30:00] So excited to speak at Podcast Movement 2023! It&#8217;s August 21-24 in Denver. Register and join the fun at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://podcastmovement.com/" target="_blank">PodcastMovement.com</a></li></ul><ul><li>[30:01] Sign up for the <em>Podcasting to the Max</em> newsletter at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/newsletter/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/Newsletter</a> and receive <em>How to Edit Your Podcast in Audacity</em></li></ul></li><li><strong>Inspiration &amp; Creativity: People, Hobbies, and Resources</strong><ul><li>[31:08] How do you find time to unplug</li><li>[31:37] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.hippodirect.com/best-lists-by-market-segment" target="_blank">Emails</a></li><li>[31:48] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/theyec/2021/09/16/top-seven-tasks-to-outsource-now/" target="_blank">Outsourcing</a></li><li>[32:27] A hoppin&#8217; pun!</li><li>[33:24] How do you get better at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.mindtools.com/arb6j5a/what-is-time-management#:~:text=Time%20management%20means%20organizing%20your,do%20the%20things%20that%20matter." target="_blank">time management</a></li></ul></li></ul>



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<ul><li><strong>The Unusual: Pet Peeves, Quirks, and Weird Talents</strong><ul><li>[34:39] What&#8217;s Pat&#8217;s biggest pet peeve</li><li>[35:01] Sorry</li><li>[35:24] What&#8217;s a weird talent Pat has</li><li>[36:40] You&#8217;re a catch, Pat!</li><li>[36:58] What&#8217;s a quirk he has</li><li>[37:05] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://quietlight.com/advisors/chuck-mullins/" target="_blank">Chuck Mullins</a></li><li>[37:22] Shoutout, Speedy Dana!</li></ul></li><li><strong>Rapid-Fire Q&amp;A</strong><ul><li>[37:59] What&#8217;s something surprising about mall kiosks</li><li>[38:25] How has running a coffee business impacted Pat&#8217;s coffee consumption</li><li>[38:53] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.yelp.com/biz/the-playing-field-nashville" target="_blank">The Playing Field</a></li><li>[39:46] How do you pronounce <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.gotolouisville.com/" target="_blank">Louisville</a></li><li>[40:02] Shoutout, Mike!</li><li>[40:41] Connect with Pat at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.buyhappyfeet.com/" target="_blank">BuyHappyFeet.com</a> and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://quietlight.com/" target="_blank">QuietLight.com</a></li><li>[41:20] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Ali" target="_blank">Muhammad Ali</a></li></ul><ul><li>[41:24] What are Pat&#8217;s Final Thoughts</li><li>[42:35] Follow the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em></a> and tell a friend about the podcast. And show love (or roast me) by leaving 5 stars on Apple Podcasts and/or Spotify</li></ul><ul><li>[42:53] Check out the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast </em>on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.goodpods.com/" target="_blank">Goodpods</a>, where you can see what your favorite people are listening to</li><li>[42:56] Connect with me on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/maxbranstetter/" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Twitter</a> (aka <a href="https://twitter.com/maxbranstetter" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">X</a>), and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/max-branstetter-74150a57/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a> @MaxBranstetter</li><li>[42:59] Save time with your high-quality podcast. Email me at <a href="mailto:&#109;ax&#64;&#109;&#97;&#120;p&#111;&#100;c&#97;s&#116;&#105;ng.&#99;om">m&#97;&#120;&#64;m&#97;&#120;p&#111;&#100;&#99;as&#116;&#105;&#110;&#103;&#46;&#99;o&#109;</a> to bring your podcast to life and use it as a business-building tool</li><li>[43:04] Sign up for the <em>Podcasting to the Max</em> newsletter at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/newsletter/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/Newsletter</a> and receive <em>How to Edit Your Podcast in Audacity</em></li><li>Theme music: Freestyle Percussion Magik &#8211; &#8220;Jungle Tribe&#8221; &#8211; provided by Jamendo</li></ul></li></ul>



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<h2 id="podcast-summary"><strong>What is the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em>?</strong></h2>



<p>Wild ideas. Wild growth. Every Wednesday morning a new entrepreneur joins the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em> to share the wildly creative and unusual ways they grew their business &#8211; and teaches you how to do it, too. Hear the minds behind WordPress, Stacy&#8217;s Pita Chips, Drybar, the voice of Bart Simpson, and more wild stories. Hosted by <a href="https://maxpodcasting.com/about/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Max Branstetter</a> (that&#8217;s me), Founder and Podcast Producer at MaxPodcasting.</p>



<h2><strong>How do you start a podcast?</strong></h2>



<p>Interested in starting a professional-sounding podcast for your brand, but don&#8217;t want to deal with the time commitment of all those behind-the-scenes details? I’ve got you covered. Email me at <a href="mailto:max&#64;m&#97;xpod&#99;&#97;&#115;t&#105;ng.c&#111;m">ma&#120;&#64;ma&#120;&#112;odcast&#105;&#110;g&#46;com</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool.</p>



<p>Thanks for listening to Pat Yates on the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em>.<em> </em>To hear more Wild stories like this one every Wednesday morning, follow the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em></a> and tell a friend about it. Then gift each other a pair of HappyFeet Slippers while you brainstorm how to sell your businesses. Until next time, Let your business Run Wild&#8230;and <strong><em>Bring on the Bongos!!</em></strong></p>
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		<title>Haroon Mokhtarzada &#8211; Wild Business Growth Podcast #198: Co-Founder and CEO of Truebill</title>
		<link>https://maxpodcasting.com/haroon-mokhtarzada/</link>
		
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Max Branstetter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2022 12:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
				<category><![CDATA[Wild Business Growth Podcast]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Entrepreneurship]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Haroon Mokhtarzada]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Selling Your Business]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Serial Entrepreneur]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Truebill]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Webs.com]]></category>
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					<description><![CDATA[Haroon Mokhtarzada, the Co-Founder of Truebill and Webs.com, joins the Wild Business Growth Podcast to share his journey from Harvard Law School to creating and selling multiple companies with millions of users for millions and billions of dollars.]]></description>
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<p class="has-drop-cap">Start getting customers. They&#8217;ll force you to make your product or service better. That&#8217;s what happened time after time with this week&#8217;s <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">Wild Business Growth Podcast</a></em> guest, Haroon Mokhtarzada. Haroon is the Co-Founder of Truebill and Webs.com. Listen to the episode on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wild-business-growth-podcast/id1422144338?mt=2" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6mSUsqYobBljhKIuK9sKJV" target="_blank">Spotify</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://podcasts.google.com/?feed=aHR0cDovL3dpbGRidXNpbmVzc2dyb3d0aHBvZGNhc3QubGlic3luLmNvbS9yc3M%3D" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a>, and your other favorite <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">podcast platforms</a>.</p>



<ul><li><a href="#episode-summary">Episode Summary &amp; Player</a></li><li><a href="#show-notes">Show Notes</a></li><li><a href="#podcast-summary"><em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em> Summary</a></li></ul>



<h2 id="episode-summary">Episode 198: Haroon Mokhtarzada – Co-Founder and CEO of Truebill</h2>



<p>Haroon Mokhtarzada, the Co-Founder of Truebill and Webs.com, joins the show to share his journey from Harvard Law School to creating and selling multiple companies with millions of users for millions and billions of dollars. Hear how to build momentum before spending advertising dollars, set up your business for acquisition, use customer feedback to make your offering better, unplug from your family business, and Haroon’s go-to magic trick. This episode covers everything from piano to product strategy. Here&#8217;s a small sample of what you will hear in this episode:</p>



<ul><li>What is a magic business</li><li>How do you think of your business as scalable</li><li>What has Haroon learned from the acquisition processes</li><li>How much revenue and users should you have before applying to Y Combinator</li><li>What was instrumental to Truebill&#8217;s growth besides marketing</li><li>How did Truebill get acquired by Rocket Companies</li><li>What is improvisation piano</li><li>Cappadocia</li></ul>



<p>Connect with Haroon on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/haroon" target="_blank">Twitter</a> @Haroon and try out <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://apps.apple.com/us/app/truebill-budget-bill-tracker/id1130616675" target="_blank">Truebill</a> on the App Store.</p>



<p>Enjoy the shoooooow! Check out the show notes below for much more detail.</p>



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<h2 id="show-notes"><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2>



<ul><li><strong>Intro &amp; Webs.com</strong><ul><li>[0:31] Email me at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="mailto:&#109;&#97;x&#64;h&#105;p&#112;&#111;&#100;ire&#99;t.c&#111;m" target="_blank">&#109;&#97;&#120;&#64;max&#112;&#111;dcast&#105;ng.c&#111;&#109;</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool</li><li>[0:41] Connect with Haroon on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/haroon" target="_blank">Twitter</a> @Haroon and try out <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://apps.apple.com/us/app/truebill-budget-bill-tracker/id1130616675" target="_blank">Truebill</a> on the App Store</li><li>[3:33] What did he think he&#8217;d be doing when he enrolled at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://hls.harvard.edu/" target="_blank">Harvard Law School</a></li><li>[3:47] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">Entrepreneurs</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.shopify.com/" target="_blank">Shopify</a></li><li>[4:15] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/e/economics.asp" target="_blank">Economics</a> (Econ)</li><li>[4:28] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.lsac.org/lsat" target="_blank">LSAT</a> (Law School Admission Test)</li><li>[4:35] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.harvard.edu/" target="_blank">Harvard University</a></li><li>[4:46] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.webs.com/" target="_blank">Freewebs</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.webs.com/" target="_blank">Webs.com</a></li><li>[5:16] What is a magic business</li><li>[5:39] What was Haroon&#8217;s favorite magic trick to perform</li><li>[6:01] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0306414/" target="_blank">The Wire</a></em></li><li>[6:27] Where did Haroon start getting interested in the website space</li><li>[6:39] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.ama.org/the-definition-of-marketing-what-is-marketing/#:~:text=Marketing%20is%20the%20activity%2C%20set,%2C%20and%20society%20at%20large.%20(" target="_blank">Marketing</a></li><li>[7:55] When did they change the name from Freewebs to Webs.com</li><li>[8:19] How do you think of your business as scalable</li><li>[10:06] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.salary.com/" target="_blank">Salary</a></li><li>[10:26] How did Webs.com get acquired by <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.vistaprint.com/" target="_blank">VistaPrint</a></li><li>[10:49] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.facebook.com/" target="_blank">Facebook</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.marketo.com/digital-marketing/#:~:text=At%20a%20high%20level%2C%20digital,goods%2C%20services%2C%20and%20brands." target="_blank">Digital Marketing</a></li><li>[11:17] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/122214/what-difference-between-revenue-and-income.asp#:~:text=Revenue%20is%20the%20total%20amount,top%20of%20the%20income%20statement." target="_blank">Revenue</a></li><li>[11:50] What has Haroon learned from the acquisition processes</li><li>[13:09] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigel_Morris" target="_blank">Nigel Morris</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.capitalone.com/" target="_blank">Capital One</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://news.vistaprint.com/vistaprint-ceo-robert-keane-named-to-2020-list-of-best-ceos" target="_blank">Robert Keane</a></li><li>[13:37] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/ceo.asp" target="_blank">CEO</a> (Chief Executive Officer)</li><li>[13:48] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.indeed.com/hire/c/info/rating-employees" target="_blank">Employee Rating</a></li></ul></li></ul>



<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-large is-resized"><img loading="lazy" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/IMG_8547-1024x686.jpg" alt="Haroon Mokhtarzada - Wild Business Growth Podcast #198: Co-Founder and CEO of Truebill" class="wp-image-5818" width="698" height="467" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/IMG_8547-1024x686.jpg 1024w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/IMG_8547-400x268.jpg 400w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/IMG_8547-768x515.jpg 768w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/IMG_8547-500x335.jpg 500w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/IMG_8547-400x268@2x.jpg 800w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/IMG_8547-1280x858.jpg 1280w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/IMG_8547-1920x1287.jpg 1920w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/IMG_8547-768x515@2x.jpg 1536w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/IMG_8547-1024x686@2x.jpg 2048w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/IMG_8547-500x335@2x.jpg 1000w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/IMG_8547-800x536@2x.jpg 1600w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/IMG_8547-1280x858@2x.jpg 2560w" sizes="(max-width: 698px) 100vw, 698px" /><figcaption>Hello Haroon!</figcaption></figure></div>



<ul id="block-e2455cfc-8974-4c8c-9460-307439cd97ee"><li><strong>The Truebill Story</strong><ul><li>[14:22] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.barstoolsports.com/shows/11/pardon-my-take" target="_blank">Pardon My Take</a></em>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/PFTCommenter" target="_blank">PFT Commenter</a></li><li>[14:50] How did Haroon start shifting to the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.truebill.com/" target="_blank">personal finance</a> space</li><li>[15:26] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://mint.intuit.com/" target="_blank">Mint</a></li><li>[16:16] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/" target="_blank">Podcast Production</a></li><li>[16:35] Shoutout Spense! </li><li>[17:02] What are the first steps Haroon took to build <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.truebill.com/" target="_blank">Truebill</a></li><li>[17:19] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.producthunt.com/" target="_blank">Product Hunt</a></li><li>[17:28] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.ycombinator.com/" target="_blank">Y Combinator</a> (YC)</li><li>[17:47] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/a/angelinvestor.asp#:~:text=An%20angel%20investor%20(also%20known,ownership%20equity%20in%20the%20company." target="_blank">Angel Investors</a></li><li>[18:12] How was Truebill&#8217;s experience at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.ycombinator.com/demoday" target="_blank">Demo Day</a></li><li>[18:50] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://techcrunch.com/" target="_blank">TechCrunch</a></em></li><li>[19:11] How much revenue and users should you have before applying to Y Combinator</li><li>[19:58] How did Truebill break through the finance clutter</li><li>[20:22] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.creditkarma.com/" target="_blank">Credit Karma</a></li><li>[22:12] How did Truebill use <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.helpscout.com/blog/customer-feedback/" target="_blank">customer feedback</a> to make the app better</li><li>[23:01] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.careerexplorer.com/careers/engineer/" target="_blank">Engineers</a></li><li>[23:30] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://vwo.com/ab-testing/" target="_blank">A/B Testing</a></li><li>[23:33] Slightly corny</li><li>[23:59] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/statistical-significance.asp#:~:text=Statistical%20significance%20refers%20to%20the%20claim%20that%20a%20result%20from,to%20be%20due%20to%20chance." target="_blank">Statistical Significance</a></li><li>[24:46] How did Truebill get momentum before spending advertising dollars</li><li>[24:53] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://blog.hubspot.com/marketing/public-relations-definition#:~:text=What%20is%20PR%3F,is%20what%20you%20pray%20for.%E2%80%9D" target="_blank">PR</a> (Public Relations), <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/w/word-of-mouth-marketing.asp" target="_blank">Word of Mouth Marketing</a></li><li>[25:13] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://apps.apple.com/us/app/truebill-budget-bill-tracker/id1130616675" target="_blank">App Store</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://developers.google.com/search/docs/beginner/seo-starter-guide" target="_blank">SEO</a> (Search Engine Optimization)</li><li>[25:42] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/102015/series-b-c-funding-what-it-all-means-and-how-it-works.asp" target="_blank">Series A</a></li><li>[25:50] Whaaaaaaaaaaat</li><li>[26:08] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://robinhood.com/" target="_blank">Robinhood</a></li><li>[26:50] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.techtarget.com/searchitchannel/definition/feedback-loop" target="_blank">Feedback Loop</a></li><li>[27:17] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.qualtrics.com/experience-management/customer/net-promoter-score/" target="_blank">NPS</a> (Net Promoter Score)</li><li>[28:09] What was instrumental to Truebill&#8217;s growth besides marketing</li><li>[28:45] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.chime.com/" target="_blank">Chime</a></li><li>[29:39] Congrats, Haroon!</li><li>[29:51] Whoops</li><li>[30:06] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Gilbert" target="_blank">Dan Gilbert</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.nba.com/cavaliers" target="_blank">Cleveland Cavaliers</a> (Cavs)</li><li>[30:19] How did Truebill get acquired by <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.rocketcompanies.com/" target="_blank">Rocket Companies</a></li><li>[31:40] What has been the biggest difference between the Truebill and Webs.com acquisitions</li><li>[32:44] What advice does Haroon have for entrepreneurs who aspire to sell businesses one day</li><li>[33:22] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://dmoz-odp.org/" target="_blank">DMOZ</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.google.com/" target="_blank">Google</a></li><li>[34:33] Save time with your high-quality podcast. Email me at <a href="mailto:&#109;&#97;&#120;&#64;maxp&#111;&#100;c&#97;st&#105;n&#103;&#46;&#99;o&#109;">&#109;ax&#64;m&#97;xpodca&#115;t&#105;n&#103;&#46;&#99;om</a> to bring your podcast to life and use it as a business-building tool</li></ul></li><li><strong>Inspiration &amp; Creativity: People, Hobbies, and Resources</strong><ul><li>[35:40] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.hippodirect.com/" target="_blank">Hippo Direct</a>, our family business</li><li>[35:54] How do you build a business with your siblings</li><li>[37:12] How much time do Haroon and his brothers spend talking about the business</li><li>[37:33] How do you unplug from your family business</li><li>[38:00] How do you be and stay creative</li><li>[39:04] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.hatchery.umd.edu/" target="_blank">Mokhtarzarda Hatchery</a> at the University of Maryland</li><li>[39:50] What is improvisation piano</li><li>[40:43] Bazinga </li></ul></li></ul>



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<ul id="block-e2455cfc-8974-4c8c-9460-307439cd97ee"><li><strong>Rapid-Fire Q&amp;A</strong><ul><li>[41:09] What&#8217;s a fantastic cuisine in Maryland besides crab</li><li>[41:32] Shoutout <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="http://sevenvalleysrestaurant.com/" target="_blank">Seven Valleys</a>!</li><li>[42:09] What&#8217;s something about visiting Turkey most people would be surprised by</li><li>[42:58] Shoutout Mitali!</li><li>[43:15] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.hotairballooncappadocia.com/" target="_blank">Cappadocia</a></li><li>[43:26] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://abc.com/shows/american-idol" target="_blank">American Idol</a></em></li><li>[43:28] What&#8217;s a weird talent Haroon has</li><li>[44:02] <a href="https://www.davidcopperfield.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">David Copperfield</a></li><li>[44:09] <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Houdini" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Harry Houdini</a></li><li>[44:32] Connect with Haroon on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/haroon" target="_blank">Twitter</a> @Haroon and try out <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://apps.apple.com/us/app/truebill-budget-bill-tracker/id1130616675" target="_blank">Truebill</a> on the App Store</li></ul><ul><li>[45:08] What are Haroon&#8217;s Final Thoughts</li></ul><ul><li>[46:05] Follow the <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">Wild Business Growth Podcast</a></em> and tell a friend about the podcast. And 5 stars on Apple Podcasts &amp; Spotify if you&#8217;re feeling super nice</li></ul><ul><li>[46:29] Check out the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast </em>on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.goodpods.com/" target="_blank">GoodPods</a>, where you can see what your favorite people are listening to</li><li>[46:32] Connect with me on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/maxbranstetter/" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/max-branstetter-74150a57/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a> @MaxBranstetter</li><li>[46:35] Save time with your high-quality podcast. Email me at <a href="mailto:&#109;ax&#64;m&#97;xpo&#100;&#99;&#97;st&#105;n&#103;&#46;co&#109;">m&#97;x&#64;&#109;a&#120;p&#111;&#100;&#99;ast&#105;n&#103;.&#99;&#111;m</a> to bring your podcast to life and use it as a business-building tool</li><li>Theme music: Freestyle Percussion Magik &#8211; &#8220;Jungle Tribe&#8221; &#8211; provided by Jamendo</li></ul></li></ul>



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<h2 id="podcast-summary"><strong>What is the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em>?</strong></h2>



<p>Wild ideas. Wild growth. Every Wednesday morning a new entrepreneur joins the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em> to share the wildly creative and unusual ways they grew their business &#8211; and teaches you how to do it, too. Hear the minds behind WordPress, Stacy&#8217;s Pita Chips, Drybar, the voice of Bart Simpson, and more wild stories. Hosted by <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/about/" target="_blank">Max Branstetter</a> (that&#8217;s me), Founder and Podcast Producer at MaxPodcasting.</p>



<h2><strong>How do you start a podcast?</strong></h2>



<p>Interested in starting a professional-sounding podcast for your brand, but don&#8217;t want to deal with the time commitment of all those behind-the-scenes details? I’ve got you covered. Email me at <a href="mailto:&#109;ax&#64;maxp&#111;&#100;cas&#116;&#105;n&#103;.com">&#109;&#97;x&#64;m&#97;&#120;podc&#97;s&#116;&#105;ng.co&#109;</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool.</p>



<p>Thanks for listening to Haroon Mokhtarzada on the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast. </em>To hear more Wild stories like this one every Wednesday morning, follow the <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">Wild Business Growth Podcast</a></em> and tell a friend about it. And cancel your outdated subscriptions together using Truebill. Until next time, Let your business Run Wild&#8230;and <em><strong>Bring on the Bongos!!</strong></em></p>
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		<title>David Perry &#8211; Wild Business Growth Podcast #185: Video Game Voyager, Co-Founder of Carro &#038; Gaikai</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2022 09:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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<p class="has-drop-cap">Skill, risk, and strategy. That&#8217;s what you need to keep people engaged &#8211; in video games and in business. This week&#8217;s <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">Wild Business Growth Podcast</a></em> guest, David Perry, has excelled in both of those worlds. David is the Co-Founder of Carro and a video game industry legend. Listen to the episode on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wild-business-growth-podcast/id1422144338?mt=2" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6mSUsqYobBljhKIuK9sKJV" target="_blank">Spotify</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://podcasts.google.com/?feed=aHR0cDovL3dpbGRidXNpbmVzc2dyb3d0aHBvZGNhc3QubGlic3luLmNvbS9yc3M%3D" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a>, and your other favorite <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">podcast platforms</a>.</p>



<ul><li><a href="#episode-summary">Episode Summary &amp; Player</a></li><li><a href="#show-notes">Show Notes</a></li><li><a href="#podcast-summary"><em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em> Summary</a></li></ul>



<h2 id="episode-summary">Episode 185: David Perry – Video Game Voyager, Co-Founder of Carro &amp; Gaikai</h2>



<p>David Perry, the Co-Founder of Carro and video game industry legend, joins the show to share his journey from developing video games to selling his cloud gaming service to Sony and revolutionizing how brands partner with influencers. Hear how to make your&nbsp;business attractive to big players, find inspiration from other markets, the right influencers to market your brand, David’s craziest skydiving story, and the time he visited Michael Jackson at Neverland. This episode covers everything from video game design to jumping out of an airplane. Here&#8217;s a small sample of what you will hear in this episode:</p>



<ul><li>What is the most difficult part of designing video games</li><li>How do you pronounce Gaikai</li><li>What made Gaikai attractive to Sony</li><li>The Bizarro Spaghetti / Spaghetti 2: The Sequel</li><li>What was David&#8217;s reaction when he found out Sony was acquiring his company</li><li>Something shocking about skydiving</li><li>What is Carro</li><li>The Weird Wild Woodworking Award goes to David!</li></ul>



<p>Connect with David on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dperry" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a> and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://getcarro.com/" target="_blank">GetCarro.com</a>.</p>



<p>Enjoy the shoooooow! Check out the show notes below for much more detail.</p>



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<h2 id="show-notes"><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2>



<ul><li><strong>Intro &amp; Designing Video Games</strong><ul><li>[0:29] Email me at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="mailto:&#109;&#97;&#120;&#64;h&#105;&#112;podir&#101;ct&#46;&#99;om" target="_blank">&#109;&#97;&#120;&#64;&#109;a&#120;&#112;o&#100;&#99;ast&#105;&#110;&#103;&#46;c&#111;&#109;</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool</li><li>[0:42] Connect with David on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dperry" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a> and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://getcarro.com/" target="_blank">GetCarro.com</a></li><li>[2:31] Gotcha!</li><li>[2:54] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthworm_Jim" target="_blank">Earthworm Jim</a></em></li><li>[3:02] What is the most difficult part of designing video games</li><li>[3:30] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.entrepreneur.com/encyclopedia/licensing" target="_blank">Licensing</a></li><li>[4:06] How do you learn to design video games</li><li>[4:15] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.britannica.com/place/Belfast" target="_blank">Belfast, Northern Ireland</a></li><li>[4:17] A little &#8220;accent&#8221; teaser</li><li>[5:00] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.ebay.com/b/Sinclair-ZX81-Vintage-Computers-Mainframes/162075/bn_114564128" target="_blank">Sinclair ZX81</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.ebay.com/b/Timex-Sinclair/162075/bn_7023250847" target="_blank">Timex 1000</a></li><li>[5:27] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.amazon.com/David-Perry-Game-Design-Brainstorming/dp/1584506687" target="_blank">David Perry on Game Design: A Brainstorming ToolBox</a></em> by David Perry &amp; Rusel DeMaria</li><li>[7:16] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://tetris.com/play-tetris" target="_blank">Tetris</a></em></li><li>[9:07] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://james-camerons-avatar.fandom.com/wiki/Pandora" target="_blank">Pandora from <em>Avatar</em></a></li><li>[9:17] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000116/" target="_blank">James Cameron</a></li><li>[9:22] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Terminator_video_games" target="_blank"><em>The Terminator</em> Game</a></li><li>[10:06] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avatar_2" target="_blank"><em>Avatar</em> Sequels</a></li><li>[10:31] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.starwars.com/" target="_blank">Star Wars</a></em>, <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.wizardingworld.com/" target="_blank">Harry Potter</a></em></li></ul></li><li><strong>The Gaikai Story</strong><ul><li>[11:16] How do you pronounce <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaikai" target="_blank">Gaikai</a></li><li>[11:43] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.ama.org/the-definition-of-marketing-what-is-marketing/" target="_blank">Marketing</a></li><li>[12:19] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.quora.com/What-does-marketing-mystique-mean-exactly-in-this-context" target="_blank">Mystique Marketing</a></li><li>[12:28] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.versace.com/us/en-us/home/" target="_blank">Versace</a></li><li>[13:30] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.britannica.com/technology/technology" target="_blank">Technology</a> (Tech)</li><li>[13:44] Completely true</li><li>[14:02] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.visitcalifornia.com/places-to-visit/silicon-valley/" target="_blank">Silicon Valley</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/startup.asp" target="_blank">Startup</a></li><li>[14:21] I now know how to pronounce <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chianti" target="_blank">Chianti</a></li><li>[14:51] How did David get into the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.playstation.com/en-us/ps-now/" target="_blank">cloud gaming</a> space</li><li>[15:01] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acclaim_Entertainment" target="_blank">Acclaim</a>, <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_Jam" target="_blank">NBA Jam</a></em></li><li>[16:03] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KOTRA" target="_blank">KOTRA</a> (Korea Trade-Investment Promotion Agency)</li><li>[16:18] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/ceo.asp" target="_blank">CEO</a> (Chief Executive Officer)</li><li>[20:36] You&#8217;re good, David!</li><li>[21:29] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/end-of-life.html" target="_blank">Flash</a></li><li>[21:35] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://farmville3.com/" target="_blank">FarmVille</a></li><li>[21:45] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="http://xanga.com/" target="_blank">Xanga</a></li><li>[21:49] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.tiktok.com/tag/farmville?lang=en" target="_blank">FarmVille TikTok</a></li><li>[22:30] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.dicesummit.org/" target="_blank">D.I.C.E. Summit</a></li><li>[22:51] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6mSUsqYobBljhKIuK9sKJV?si=8ea6e574f32b4434" target="_blank">Digital Music</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6mSUsqYobBljhKIuK9sKJV?si=8ea6e574f32b4434" target="_blank">Spotify</a></li><li>[23:25] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://mariokart8.nintendo.com/" target="_blank">Mario Kart</a></em></li><li>[23:55] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.facebook.com/" target="_blank">Facebook</a>, <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.crysis.com/" target="_blank">Crysis</a></em>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/" target="_blank">Twitter</a></li><li>[24:22] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.playstation.com/en-us/ps-now/" target="_blank">PlayStation</a></li><li>[24:34] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_reality" target="_blank">Virtual Reality</a> (VR), <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.oculus.com/" target="_blank">Oculus</a></li><li>[25:05] What is <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://beatsaber.com/" target="_blank">Beat Saber</a></em></li><li>[25:46] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.callofduty.com/" target="_blank">Call of Duty</a> (COD)</em></li><li>[26:02] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.playstation.com/en-us/ps5/" target="_blank">PlayStation 5</a> (PS5), <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_NuEQ-n60I" target="_blank">PlayStation 8</a> (PS8), <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyPQVsdCuRk" target="_blank">PlayStation 9</a> (PS9)</li><li>[26:24] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.ponggame.org/" target="_blank">Pong</a></li><li>[27:11] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.flightsimulator.com/" target="_blank">Flight Simulator</a></li><li>[27:23] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://stadia.google.com/" target="_blank">Stadia</a></li><li>[27:28] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jade_Raymond" target="_blank">Jade Raymond</a></li><li>[28:30] What made Gaikai attractive to <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.sony.com/" target="_blank">Sony</a></li><li>[28:45] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://youtu.be/mfv_hOFT1S4" target="_blank">Keynote Speeches</a></li><li>[30:07] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://blog.hootsuite.com/reach-vs-impressions/#:~:text=Reach%20refers%20to%20the%20total,been%20displayed%20on%20a%20screen." target="_blank">Reach</a></li><li>[30:16] Sorry, Stadia!</li><li>[30:25] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Harrison" target="_blank">Phil Harrison</a></li><li>[30:34] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/" target="_blank">YouTube</a></li><li>[31:03] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.walmart.com/" target="_blank">Walmart</a></li><li>[31:42] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.socialmediaexaminer.com/" target="_blank">Social Media</a></li><li>[32:36] What was David&#8217;s reaction when he found out Sony was acquiring his company</li><li>[34:16] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.bankofamerica.com/deposits/wire-transfers-faqs/" target="_blank">Wire</a></li><li>[34:37] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0133093/" target="_blank">The Matrix</a></em></li><li>[35:13] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Office-Products-Fax-Machines/zgbs/office-products/172582" target="_blank">Fax Machine</a> (whaaaaaat)</li><li>[35:48] Take that back, David!</li><li>[36:11] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">Podcast</a></li><li>[37:29] Save time with your high-quality podcast. Email me at <a href="mailto:ma&#120;&#64;ma&#120;p&#111;&#100;&#99;a&#115;t&#105;&#110;g&#46;co&#109;">m&#97;&#120;&#64;&#109;axpo&#100;cas&#116;i&#110;&#103;&#46;&#99;om</a> to bring your podcast to life and use it as a business-building tool</li></ul></li></ul>



<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-large"><img loading="lazy" width="1024" height="730" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/IMG_7746-1024x730.jpg" alt="David Perry - Wild Business Growth Podcast #185: Video Game Voyager, Co-Founder of Carro &amp; Gaikai" class="wp-image-5447" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/IMG_7746-1024x730.jpg 1024w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/IMG_7746-400x285.jpg 400w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/IMG_7746-768x548.jpg 768w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/IMG_7746-500x356.jpg 500w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/IMG_7746-400x285@2x.jpg 800w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/IMG_7746-1280x913.jpg 1280w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/IMG_7746-1920x1369.jpg 1920w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/IMG_7746-768x548@2x.jpg 1536w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/IMG_7746-1024x730@2x.jpg 2048w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/IMG_7746-500x356@2x.jpg 1000w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/IMG_7746-800x570@2x.jpg 1600w" sizes="(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px" /><figcaption>Hi Gaikai, Hello Carro</figcaption></figure></div>



<ul id="block-e2455cfc-8974-4c8c-9460-307439cd97ee"><li><strong>The Carro Story</strong><ul><li>[38:39] What is <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://getcarro.com/" target="_blank">Carro</a></li><li>[38:48] No, thank <em>you</em></li><li>[39:02] What got David interested in <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://getcarro.com/" target="_blank">influencers</a> in the first place</li><li>[40:18] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.bobvila.com/articles/how-to-varnish-wood/" target="_blank">Varnish</a></li><li>[42:07] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://developers.facebook.com/products/instagram/success-stories/carro/" target="_blank">Facebook Success Story</a></li><li>[42:29] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/?hl=en" target="_blank">Instagram</a></li><li>[42:42] Check out <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://getcarro.com/" target="_blank">GetCarro.com</a></li><li>[42:53] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.shopify.com/" target="_blank">Shopify</a></li><li>[43:16] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://kpi.org/KPI-Basics" target="_blank">KPIs</a> (Key Performance Indicators)</li><li>[43:32] Guilty</li><li>[43:53] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.google.com/" target="_blank">Google</a></li><li>[44:12] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://contentmarketinginstitute.com/what-is-content-marketing/" target="_blank">Content</a></li><li>[45:19] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0697657/" target="_blank">The Bizarro Spaghetti</a> / Spaghetti 2: The Sequel</li><li>[45:46] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://getcarro.com/" target="_blank">Website</a></li><li>[46:19] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.amazon.com/" target="_blank">Amazon</a></li><li>[47:21] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://getcarro.com/" target="_blank">Carro</a></li><li>[48:07] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.etsy.com/" target="_blank">Etsy</a></li><li>[48:13] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.uber.com/" target="_blank">Uber</a></li><li>[48:30] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.airbnb.com/" target="_blank">Airbnb</a></li><li>[48:47] Sign me up</li><li>[49:22] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.bigcommerce.com/blog/affiliate-marketing/" target="_blank">Affiliate Marketing</a></li><li>[50:00] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.bestbuy.com/site/electric-transportation/electric-bikes-biking-gear/pcmcat250300050009.c?id=pcmcat250300050009" target="_blank">eBike</a></li><li>[50:51] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/customer.asp" target="_blank">Customers</a></li><li>[50:58] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.outbrain.com/blog/remarketing-guide/" target="_blank">Remarketing</a></li><li>[51:15] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.unitedtalent.com/" target="_blank">United Talent Agency</a> (UTA)</li><li>[51:24] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/kimkardashian/?hl=en" target="_blank">Kim Kardashian</a></li><li>[51:47] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.ssa.gov/benefits/retirement/" target="_blank">Retirement</a> (or not)</li></ul></li><li><strong>Wild Business Shoutout of the Week</strong><ul><li>[52:12] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.bannerflow.com/blog/the-5-step-guide-to-creative-marketing/#:~:text=Creative%20marketing%20is%20the%20act,connecting%20with%20the%20audience's%20emotions." target="_blank">Creative Marketing</a></li><li>[52:26] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disney%27s_Aladdin_(Virgin_Games_video_game)" target="_blank"><em>Aladdin</em> Video Game</a></li><li>[53:18] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://disney.fandom.com/wiki/Genie" target="_blank">Genie</a></li><li>[53:34] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Press" target="_blank">Press</a></li><li>[53:40] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.disney.com/" target="_blank">Disney</a></li><li>[53:56] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005076/" target="_blank">Jeffrey Katzenberg</a>, <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110357/" target="_blank">The Lion King</a></em></li><li>[54:07] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.virgin.com/branson-family/richard-branson-blog" target="_blank">Richard Branson</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.virgin.com/" target="_blank">Virgin</a></li><li>[54:46] That&#8217;s the easiest way probably</li><li>[55:02] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.sega.com/" target="_blank">SEGA</a></li><li>[55:38] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enter_the_Matrix" target="_blank"><em>The Matrix</em> Game</a></li><li>[55:50] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.tiesto.com/" target="_blank">Tiësto</a></li><li>[56:58] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Jackson" target="_blank">Michael Jackson</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neverland_Ranch" target="_blank">Neverland</a></li><li>[58:02] Now that&#8217;s compatible</li></ul></li><li><strong>Rapid-Fire Q&amp;A</strong><ul><li>[58:32] How do you lose your accent</li><li>[58:52] Shoutout GB!</li><li>[59:21] What&#8217;s something shocking about skydiving</li><li>[1:00:29] Sheeeeeesh</li><li>[1:01:26] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.ebay.com/itm/123739938066" target="_blank">Yoda on Luke Skywalker&#8217;s Back</a></li><li>[1:02:25] &#8220;<a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY0WxgSXdEE" target="_blank">Another One Bites the Dust</a>&#8221; by Queen</li><li>[1:02:30] What&#8217;s an <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altimeter" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">altimeter</a></li><li>[1:03:13] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaquille_O%27Neal" target="_blank">Shaq</a> (my skydiving partner)</li><li>[1:03:22] What&#8217;s a quirk David has</li><li>[1:04:13] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.sammaloofwoodworker.com/" target="_blank">Maloof Rocking Chair</a></li><li>[1:06:33] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/" target="_blank">Podcasting</a></li><li>[1:07:04] The Weird Wild Woodworking Award goes to David!</li><li>[1:07:33] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.shure.com/en-MEA/products/microphones/sm7b" target="_blank">SM7B</a></li><li>[1:08:45] What was David&#8217;s favorite moment from visiting Michael Jackson &amp; Neverland</li><li>[1:10:32] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Jackson%27s_Moonwalker" target="_blank"><em>Michael Jackson Moonwalker </em>Video Game</a></li><li>[1:10:57] <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playboy_Mansion" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Playboy Mansion</a></li><li>[1:11:07] What video game did Michael Jackson want to be the first to play</li><li>[1:11:49] Connect with David on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dperry" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a> and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://getcarro.com/" target="_blank">GetCarro.com</a></li><li>[1:12:12] Email <a href="mailto:&#72;&#101;&#108;&#108;o&#64;G&#101;tC&#97;r&#114;o&#46;&#99;o&#109;">&#72;ello&#64;GetC&#97;&#114;&#114;o&#46;&#99;&#111;&#109;</a> if you have a Shopify store</li></ul><ul><li>[1:12:37] What are David&#8217;s Final Thoughts</li></ul><ul><li>[1:13:15] Follow the <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">Wild Business Growth Podcast</a></em> and tell a friend about the podcast. 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<h2 id="podcast-summary"><strong>What is the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em>?</strong></h2>



<p>Wild ideas. Wild growth. Every Wednesday morning a new entrepreneur joins the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em> to share the wildly creative and unusual ways they grew their business &#8211; and teaches you how to do it, too. Hear the minds behind WordPress, Stacy&#8217;s Pita Chips, Drybar, the voice of Bart Simpson, and more wild stories. Hosted by <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/about/" target="_blank">Max Branstetter</a> (that&#8217;s me), Founder and Podcast Producer at MaxPodcasting.</p>



<h2><strong>How do you start a podcast?</strong></h2>



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<p>Thanks for listening to David Perry on the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast. </em>To hear more Wild stories like this one every Wednesday morning, follow the <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">Wild Business Growth Podcast</a></em> and tell a friend about it. Then, go to a woodworking conference in Iowa with them. Until next time, Let your business Run Wild&#8230;and <em><strong>Bring on the Bongos!!</strong></em></p>
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		<title>Beate Chelette &#8211; Wild Business Growth Podcast #184: The Growth Architect, Selling to Bill Gates</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2022 09:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Beate Chelette, The Growth Architect, joins the Wild Business Growth Podcast to share her journey from studying photo design and moving to the US to selling her photography business to Bill Gates.]]></description>
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<p class="has-drop-cap">How do you set your business up to not only scale, not only sell, but sell to a major company with a high profile? This week&#8217;s <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">Wild Business Growth Podcast</a></em> guest, Beate Chelette, has some steps to share. Beate is The Growth Architect. Listen to the episode on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wild-business-growth-podcast/id1422144338?mt=2" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6mSUsqYobBljhKIuK9sKJV" target="_blank">Spotify</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://podcasts.google.com/?feed=aHR0cDovL3dpbGRidXNpbmVzc2dyb3d0aHBvZGNhc3QubGlic3luLmNvbS9yc3M%3D" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a>, and your other favorite <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">podcast platforms</a>.</p>



<ul><li><a href="#episode-summary">Episode Summary &amp; Player</a></li><li><a href="#show-notes">Show Notes</a></li><li><a href="#podcast-summary"><em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em> Summary</a></li></ul>



<h2 id="episode-summary">Episode 184: Beate Chelette – The Growth Architect, Selling to Bill Gates</h2>



<p>Beate Chelette, The Growth Architect, joins the show to share her journey from studying photo design and moving to the US to selling her photography business to Bill Gates. Hear how to make your business sellable, set up systems and processes to scale your business, communicate these to your team, inspire fellow business owners, and the funniest way someone’s mispronounced her name. This episode covers everything from photo design to Bill Gates. Here&#8217;s a small sample of what you will hear in this episode:</p>



<ul><li>How long did Beate study photography before moving to the US</li><li>What made her decide to start her own business</li><li>How do you set up systems and processes to scale your business</li><li>The What&#8217;s Next Method</li><li>How do you communicate systems out to your team</li><li>What&#8217;s the #1 thing to make your business sellable</li><li>How does Beate inspire her clients as The Growth Architect</li><li>Where&#8217;s her dream place to go skiing</li></ul>



<p>Connect with Beate on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/beatechelette/?hl=en" target="_blank">Instagram</a> and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://beatechelette.com/" target="_blank">BeateChelette.com</a>.</p>



<p>Enjoy the shoooooow! Check out the show notes below for much more detail.</p>



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<h2 id="show-notes"><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2>



<ul><li><strong>Intro &amp; Photography</strong><ul><li>[0:32] Email me at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="mailto:ma&#120;&#64;&#104;&#105;&#112;p&#111;&#100;&#105;re&#99;t&#46;&#99;&#111;&#109;" target="_blank">&#109;&#97;&#120;&#64;&#109;&#97;&#120;&#112;odc&#97;&#115;&#116;i&#110;&#103;.c&#111;&#109;</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool</li><li>[0:42] Connect with Beate on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/beatechelette/?hl=en" target="_blank">Instagram</a> and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://beatechelette.com/" target="_blank">BeateChelette.com</a></li><li>[1:46] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.beyonce.com/" target="_blank">Beyoncé</a></li><li>[2:15] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay-Z" target="_blank">Jay-Z</a></li><li>[2:57] Where does Beate&#8217;s passion for <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://photographylife.com/what-is-photography" target="_blank">photography</a> come from</li><li>[3:33] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.study-in-germany.de/en/plan-your-studies/requirements/aptitude-test/" target="_blank">Aptitude Test</a></li><li>[4:49] What grabbed at Beate&#8217;s soul</li><li>[5:03] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop.html" target="_blank">Photoshop</a></li><li>[6:02] How long did Beate study photography before moving to the US</li><li>[6:12] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="http://insights.fk12.org/" target="_blank">Institute of Photo Design in Munich</a></li><li>[6:58] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.elle.com/" target="_blank">ELLE</a></em> Magazine</li><li>[7:30] How would Beate summarize this adventure in 3 words</li></ul></li><li><strong>The Beate Works Story</strong><ul><li>[8:01] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">Entrepreneurship</a></li><li>[8:03] What made Beate decide to start her own business</li><li>[8:46] What was appealing about going her own route</li><li>[9:55] Taking that segment out, as instructed</li><li>[10:31] Meeeeraculous!</li><li>[10:46] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/debt.asp" target="_blank">Debt</a></li><li>[10:49] How did <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://beatechelette.com/" target="_blank">Beate Works</a> start taking form</li><li>[11:11] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.levi.com/FR/en/" target="_blank">Levi Strauss Germany</a></li><li>[12:22] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting</a></li><li>[12:40] What photography specialty did Beate Works specialize in</li><li>[13:08] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.oceanpacific.com/" target="_blank">Ocean Pacific</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.mossimo.com.au/" target="_blank">Mossimo</a></li><li>[13:24] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.wrangler.com/" target="_blank">Wrangler</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.bmwusa.com/" target="_blank">BMW</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.mbusa.com/en/home" target="_blank">Mercedes-Benz</a></li><li>[14:25] What&#8217;s an example of a celeb in-home story Beate did</li><li>[14:55] Picture Perfect Truth</li><li>[15:00] Amaaaaaaazing</li><li>[15:30] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://helmut-newton-foundation.org/en/" target="_blank">Helmut Newton</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://georgehurrell.com/" target="_blank">George Hurrell</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="http://www.douglaskirkland.com/" target="_blank">Douglas Kirkland</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="http://obertogili.com/" target="_blank">Oberto Gili</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://nateberkus.com/" target="_blank">Nate Berkas</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="http://peterlindbergh.obys.agency/" target="_blank">Peter Lindbergh</a></li><li>[16:39] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.vogue.com/" target="_blank">Vogue</a></em>, <em><a href="https://www.hellomagazine.com/">Hello!</a></em> Magazine</li><li>[17:00] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.aia.org/" target="_blank">Architects</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.asid.org/" target="_blank">Interior Designers</a></li><li>[17:23] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000194/" target="_blank">Julianne Moore</a></li><li>[18:01] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000338/" target="_blank">Francis For Coppola</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.madonna.com/" target="_blank">Madonna</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="http://www.seal.com/" target="_blank">Seal</a></li><li>[18:15] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.amazon.com/Fax-Machines-Office-Electronics/b?ie=UTF8&amp;node=172582" target="_blank">Fax Machine</a> (what&#8217;s that)</li><li>[18:23] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.hippodirect.com/best-lists-by-market-segment" target="_blank">Email</a></li><li>[18:37] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/b/bidding-war.asp" target="_blank">Bidding War</a></li><li>[18:51] This is true</li><li>[19:14] How do you set up systems and processes to scale your business</li><li>[20:03] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.salesforce.com/crm/what-is-crm/" target="_blank">CRM</a> (Customer Relationship Management)<br>[20:09] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.claris.com/" target="_blank">FileMaker Pro</a></li><li>[20:53] The What&#8217;s Next Method</li><li>[22:23] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/briannawiest/2018/09/26/how-to-get-into-the-zone-of-genius-and-unlock-your-highest-potential/" target="_blank">Zone of Genius</a></li><li>[22:56] How do you communicate systems out to your team</li></ul><ul><li>[23:04] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://asana.com/" target="_blank">Asana</a></li><li>[23:46] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/c/GrowthArchitect" target="_blank">YouTube</a></li><li>[25:14] What&#8217;s the #1 thing to make your business sellable</li><li>[26:47] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/e/equity.asp#:~:text=Equity%20represents%20the%20shareholders'%20stake,financial%20ratios%20such%20as%20ROE." target="_blank">Equity</a></li><li>[27:34] Phenomenal!</li><li>[28:21] Let&#8217;s go sailing</li><li>[28:29] At what point did the possibility of Beate selling her business to <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Gates" target="_blank">Bill Gates</a> happen</li><li>[28:51] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.britannica.com/place/Prague" target="_blank">Prague</a>, Czech Republic</li><li>[29:21] Still hungry</li></ul><ul><li>[30:08] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Radioactive_Spider" target="_blank">Spider-Man</a></em></li><li>[30:57] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://petapixel.com/2018/11/20/the-story-behind-that-ikea-photo-of-amsterdam/" target="_blank">IKEA Canal Bike Picture</a></li><li>[32:38] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.gettyimages.com/" target="_blank">Corbis</a></li><li>[33:32] How did Beate get in contact with the Bill Gates camp</li><li>[34:05] <a href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/commodity.asp#:~:text=A%20commodity%20is%20a%20basic,is%20essentially%20uniform%20across%20producers." target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Commodity</a></li></ul><ul><li>[34:18] Save time with your high-quality podcast. Email me at <a href="mailto:&#109;ax&#64;m&#97;&#120;&#112;&#111;d&#99;asti&#110;g&#46;co&#109;">&#109;a&#120;&#64;&#109;axp&#111;&#100;&#99;&#97;s&#116;&#105;&#110;&#103;.&#99;&#111;&#109;</a> to bring your podcast to life and use it as a business-building tool</li></ul></li></ul>



<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-large"><img loading="lazy" width="1024" height="693" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/FullSizeR-1024x693.jpg" alt="Beate Chelette - Wild Business Growth Podcast #184: The Growth Architect, Selling to Bill Gates" class="wp-image-5431" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/FullSizeR-1024x693.jpg 1024w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/FullSizeR-400x271.jpg 400w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/FullSizeR-768x520.jpg 768w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/FullSizeR-500x338.jpg 500w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/FullSizeR-400x271@2x.jpg 800w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/FullSizeR-1280x866.jpg 1280w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/FullSizeR-1920x1299.jpg 1920w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/FullSizeR-768x520@2x.jpg 1536w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/FullSizeR-1024x693@2x.jpg 2048w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/FullSizeR-500x338@2x.jpg 1000w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/FullSizeR-800x541@2x.jpg 1600w" sizes="(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px" /><figcaption>Queen Bea</figcaption></figure></div>



<ul id="block-e2455cfc-8974-4c8c-9460-307439cd97ee"><li><strong>Inspiration &amp; Creativity: People, Hobbies, and Resources</strong><ul><li>[34:39] How do you be and stay creative</li><li>[34:54] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">Podcasts</a></li><li>[35:29] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.verywellmind.com/what-is-a-mindset-2795025" target="_blank">Mindset</a></li><li>[35:54] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensory_deprivation#:~:text=Sensory%20deprivation%20or%20perceptual%20isolation,or%20more%20of%20the%20senses." target="_blank">Sensory Deprivation</a></li><li>[36:15] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://zoom.us/" target="_blank">Zoom</a></li><li>[37:19] How does Beate inspire her clients as <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://beatechelette.com/" target="_blank">The Growth Architect</a></li><li>[38:00] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screen_time#:~:text=Screen%20time%20is%20the%20amount,media%20use%20and%20mental%20health." target="_blank">Screen Time</a></li><li>[39:57] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/i/income.asp" target="_blank">Income</a></li><li>[40:11] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gzs_OWgAZi8" target="_blank">Onions!</a></li><li>[40:47] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10872600/" target="_blank">Spider-Man movie with 17 Spider-Men</a></li></ul></li></ul>



<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-full is-resized"><img loading="lazy" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/ikea-vilshult-amsterdam-fernando-bengoechea.jpg" alt="Beate Chelette - Wild Business Growth Podcast #184: The Growth Architect, Selling to Bill Gates" class="wp-image-5434" width="630" height="420" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/ikea-vilshult-amsterdam-fernando-bengoechea.jpg 1920w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/ikea-vilshult-amsterdam-fernando-bengoechea-400x267.jpg 400w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/ikea-vilshult-amsterdam-fernando-bengoechea-1024x683.jpg 1024w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/ikea-vilshult-amsterdam-fernando-bengoechea-768x512.jpg 768w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/ikea-vilshult-amsterdam-fernando-bengoechea-500x333.jpg 500w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/ikea-vilshult-amsterdam-fernando-bengoechea-400x267@2x.jpg 800w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/ikea-vilshult-amsterdam-fernando-bengoechea-1280x853.jpg 1280w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/ikea-vilshult-amsterdam-fernando-bengoechea-768x512@2x.jpg 1536w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/ikea-vilshult-amsterdam-fernando-bengoechea-500x333@2x.jpg 1000w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/ikea-vilshult-amsterdam-fernando-bengoechea-800x533@2x.jpg 1600w" sizes="(max-width: 630px) 100vw, 630px" /><figcaption>That&#8217;s the one</figcaption></figure></div>



<ul id="block-e2455cfc-8974-4c8c-9460-307439cd97ee"><li><strong>Rapid-Fire Q&amp;A</strong><ul><li>[41:08] What&#8217;s the funniest way someone has mispronounced Beate</li><li>[41:28] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.mazdausa.com/vehicles/mx-5-miata" target="_blank">Mazda Miata</a></li><li>[41:42] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://mypiada.com/" target="_blank">Piada</a></li><li>[41:48] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.munich.travel/en" target="_blank">Munich</a>, Germany</li><li>[42:04] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.nuernberg.de/internet/stadtportal_e/" target="_blank">Nuremberg</a>, Germany</li><li>[42:22] That was easy</li><li>[42:42] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.christkindlesmarkt.de/en/" target="_blank">Christkindlmarket</a></li><li>[43:02] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.thekitchn.com/recipe-german-gluhwein-238371" target="_blank">Glühwein</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://platedcravings.com/authentic-easy-german-spaetzle-recipe/" target="_blank">Spätzle</a></li><li>[43:31] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.visitberlin.de/en" target="_blank">Berlin</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.visitlondon.com/" target="_blank">London</a></li><li>[43:42] What&#8217;s a quirk Beate has</li><li>[44:02] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="http://www.comedycellarclasses.com/" target="_blank">Comedy Class</a></li><li>[44:26] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.stratton.com/" target="_blank">Vermont Skiing</a></li><li>[44:32] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://powderquest.com/south-america/argentina/" target="_blank">Argentina Skiing</a></li><li>[45:03] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.stratton.com/" target="_blank">Stratton Mountain</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.bromley.com/" target="_blank">Bromley Mountain</a></li><li>[46:07] Jesus, Max</li><li>[46:18] Connect with Beate on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/beatechelette/?hl=en" target="_blank">Instagram</a> and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://beatechelette.com/" target="_blank">BeateChelette.com</a></li><li>[46:39] Awwwww thanks, Beate!</li><li>[47:17] What are Beate&#8217;s Final Thoughts</li></ul><ul><li>[47:46] Follow the <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">Wild Business Growth Podcast</a></em> and tell a friend about the podcast. And 5 stars on Apple Podcasts &amp; Spotify if you&#8217;re feeling super nice</li></ul><ul><li>[47:58] Check out the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast </em>on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.goodpods.com/" target="_blank">GoodPods</a>, where you can see what your favorite people are listening to</li><li>[48:00] Connect with me on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/maxbranstetter/" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/max-branstetter-74150a57/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a> @MaxBranstetter</li><li>[48:02] Save time with your high-quality podcast. Email me at <a href="mailto:&#109;ax&#64;ma&#120;&#112;od&#99;as&#116;&#105;&#110;&#103;&#46;c&#111;m">&#109;&#97;x&#64;&#109;a&#120;p&#111;&#100;&#99;&#97;&#115;ti&#110;&#103;&#46;&#99;&#111;&#109;</a> to bring your podcast to life and use it as a business-building tool</li><li>Theme music: Freestyle Percussion Magik &#8211; &#8220;Jungle Tribe&#8221; &#8211; provided by Jamendo</li></ul></li></ul>



<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-large"><img loading="lazy" width="1024" height="1024" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Max-OFFICIAL-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-1024x1024.jpg" alt="Beate Chelette - Wild Business Growth Podcast #184: The Growth Architect, Selling to Bill Gates" class="wp-image-2734" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Max-OFFICIAL-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Max-OFFICIAL-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-200x200@2x.jpg 400w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Max-OFFICIAL-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-200x200.jpg 200w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Max-OFFICIAL-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-768x768.jpg 768w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Max-OFFICIAL-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-500x500.jpg 500w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Max-OFFICIAL-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-400x400@2x.jpg 800w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Max-OFFICIAL-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-1280x1280.jpg 1280w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Max-OFFICIAL-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-1920x1920.jpg 1920w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Max-OFFICIAL-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-768x768@2x.jpg 1536w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Max-OFFICIAL-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-1024x1024@2x.jpg 2048w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Max-OFFICIAL-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-500x500@2x.jpg 1000w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Max-OFFICIAL-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-800x800@2x.jpg 1600w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Max-OFFICIAL-Wild-Business-Growth-Podcast-1280x1280@2x.jpg 2560w" sizes="(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px" /></figure></div>



<h2 id="podcast-summary"><strong>What is the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em>?</strong></h2>



<p>Wild ideas. Wild growth. Every Wednesday morning a new entrepreneur joins the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em> to share the wildly creative and unusual ways they grew their business &#8211; and teaches you how to do it, too. Hear the minds behind WordPress, Stacy&#8217;s Pita Chips, Drybar, the voice of Bart Simpson, and more wild stories. Hosted by <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/about/" target="_blank">Max Branstetter</a> (that&#8217;s me), Founder and Podcast Producer at MaxPodcasting.</p>



<h2><strong>How do you start a podcast?</strong></h2>



<p>Interested in starting a professional-sounding podcast for your brand, but don&#8217;t want to deal with the time commitment of all those behind-the-scenes details? I’ve got you covered. Email me at <a href="mailto:max&#64;m&#97;&#120;po&#100;ca&#115;&#116;ing.com">&#109;&#97;x&#64;m&#97;&#120;pod&#99;&#97;st&#105;&#110;g.&#99;&#111;m</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool.</p>



<p>Thanks for listening to Beate Chelette on the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast. </em>To hear more Wild stories like this one every Wednesday morning, follow the <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">Wild Business Growth Podcast</a></em> and tell a friend about it. And go stare at that bicycle canal picture from IKEA with them. Until next time, Let your business Run Wild&#8230;and <em><strong>Bring on the Bongos!!</strong></em></p>
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		<title>John Warrillow &#8211; Wild Business Growth Podcast #151: Built to Sell, The Art of Selling Your Business</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2021 08:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[John Warrillow, the Bestselling Author of Built to Sell, The Automatic Customer, and The Art of Selling Your Business, joins the Wild Business Growth Podcast to share his journey from being involved in every aspect of business to exiting four companies.]]></description>
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<p class="has-drop-cap">Would you like to sell your business one day? It&#8217;s easier said than done. That&#8217;s where this week&#8217;s <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">Wild Business Growth Podcast</a></em> guest comes in: John Warrillow. John is the Bestselling Author of <em>Built to Sell</em>, <em>The Automatic Customer</em>, and <em>The Art of Selling Your Business</em>. Listen to the episode on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wild-business-growth-podcast/id1422144338?mt=2" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6mSUsqYobBljhKIuK9sKJV" target="_blank">Spotify</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://podcasts.google.com/?feed=aHR0cDovL3dpbGRidXNpbmVzc2dyb3d0aHBvZGNhc3QubGlic3luLmNvbS9yc3M%3D" target="_blank">Google Podcasts</a>, and your other favorite <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">podcast platforms</a>.</p>



<ul><li><a href="#episode-summary">Episode Summary &amp; Player</a></li><li><a href="#show-notes">Show Notes</a></li><li><a href="#podcast-summary"><em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em> Summary</a></li></ul>



<h2 id="episode-summary"><strong>Episode 151: John Warrillow &#8211; Built to Sell, The Art of Selling Your Business</strong></h2>



<p>John Warrillow, the Bestselling Author of Built to Sell, The Automatic Customer, and The Art of Selling Your Business, joins the show to share his journey from being involved in every aspect of business to exiting four companies. Hear how to work on your business vs. in your business, develop recurring revenue, the difference between those who sell their business vs. those who don’t, how to add a personal touch on social media, and John’s favorite extreme sport. This episode covers everything from <em>60 Minutes</em> to earn-outs. Here&#8217;s a small sample of what you will hear in this episode:</p>



<ul><li>What would John be doing if he wasn&#8217;t in the business world at all</li><li>How do you work on the business not in the business</li><li>How do you think of your business like a child</li><li>How do you get yourself to start thinking in terms of recurring revenue</li><li>What is the rocket fuel that propels those entrepreneurs who sell their business for more than expected</li><li>How do you slide into DMs as a business owner</li><li>What is a quirk John has</li><li>What is something about becoming a bestselling author that&#8217;s surprised him</li></ul>



<p>Connect with John at <a href="https://learn.builttosell.com/wild/?podcast=Wild%20Business%20Growth" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">BuiltToSell.com/Wild</a>.</p>



<p>Enjoy the shoooooow! Check out the show notes below for much more detail.</p>



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<h2 id="show-notes"><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2>



<ul><li><strong>Intro</strong> <strong>&amp; Media</strong><ul><li>[0:21] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80168221" target="_blank">Oh, Hello</a></em></li><li>[0:33] Email me at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="mailto:m&#97;x&#64;&#104;&#105;ppo&#100;&#105;&#114;e&#99;&#116;&#46;&#99;om" target="_blank">max&#64;m&#97;&#120;&#112;&#111;d&#99;astin&#103;&#46;&#99;om</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool</li></ul><ul><li>[0:44] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.bacardi.com/us/en/the-legend-of-bacardi-151-rum/" target="_blank">Bacardi 151</a></li><li>[0:48] Connect with John at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://learn.builttosell.com/wild/?podcast=Wild%20Business%20Growth" target="_blank">BuiltToSell.com/Wild</a></li><li>[1:49] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://valuebuilder.com/" target="_blank">The Value Builder System</a></li><li>[2:30] What would John be doing if he wasn&#8217;t in the business world at all</li><li>[2:40] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://marketbusinessnews.com/financial-glossary/media-definition-meaning/" target="_blank">Media</a>, <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.cbsnews.com/60-minutes/" target="_blank">60 Minutes</a></em>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Wallace" target="_blank">Mike Wallace</a></li><li>[3:10] <em>65 Minutes</em> <em>with John Warrillow</em></li><li>[3:36] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://builttosell.com/radio/" target="_blank">Today&#8217;s Entrepreneur</a></em></li><li>[3:45] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://builttosell.com/radio/" target="_blank">Built to Sell Radio</a></em></li><li>[3:57] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/e/entrepreneur.asp" target="_blank">Entrepreneurs</a></li></ul></li><li><strong><em>Built to Sell</em>, <em>The Automatic Customer</em>, and <em>The Art of Selling Your Business</em></strong><ul><li>[4:47] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.amazon.com/Built-Sell-Creating-Business-Without/dp/1591845823" target="_blank">Built to Sell: Creating a Business That Can Thrive Without You</a></em> by John Warrillow</li><li>[5:02] Where did John&#8217;s interest in removing himself from the day-to-day come from</li><li>[5:16] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://builttosell.com/" target="_blank">Quantitative Market Research Business</a></li><li>[5:21] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.bankofamerica.com/" target="_blank">Bank of America</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.wellsfargo.com/" target="_blank">Wells Fargo</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.jpmorganchase.com/" target="_blank">JPMorgan Chase</a></li></ul><ul><li>[5:31] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/122214/what-difference-between-revenue-and-income.asp" target="_blank">Revenue</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.thebalance.com/profit-margin-types-calculation-3305879#:~:text=The%20profit%20margin%20is%20a,always%20expressed%20as%20a%20percentage." target="_blank">Profit Margin</a></li><li>[5:38] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.beringercapital.com/team-1" target="_blank">Perry Miele</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/m/mergersandacquisitions.asp#:~:text=Mergers%20and%20acquisitions%20(M%26A)%20is,of%20assets%2C%20and%20management%20acquisitions." target="_blank">M&amp;A</a> (Mergers &amp; Acquisitions)</li><li>[6:43] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.myaccountingcourse.com/accounting-dictionary/profitability" target="_blank">Profitability</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.lawinsider.com/dictionary/client-list#:~:text=Client%20List%20means%20the%20list,been%20or%20can%20be%20opened.&amp;text=Client%20List%20means%20the%20name,Payroll%20Services%20under%20this%20Agreement." target="_blank">Client List</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/recurringrevenue.asp#:~:text=Recurring%20revenue%20is%20the%20portion,relatively%20high%20degree%20of%20certainty." target="_blank">Recurring Revenue</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.intercom.com/blog/sales-team/" target="_blank">Sales Team</a></li><li>[6:58] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.nyse.com/" target="_blank">New York Stock Exchange</a> (NYSE)</li><li>[7:17] How do you work on the business not in the business</li><li>[7:38] Jodie Cook on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://builttosell.com/radio/episode-292/" target="_blank">Episode 292</a> of <em>Built to Sell Radio</em></li><li>[7:45] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/e/earnout.asp" target="_blank">Earn-Out</a></li><li>[8:52] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://zapier.com/blog/how-to-write-an-sop/" target="_blank">SOP</a> (Standard Operating Procedure)</li><li>[9:01] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.amazon.com/Myth-Revisited-Small-Businesses-About/dp/0887307280" target="_blank">The E-Myth Revisited: Why Most Small Businesses Don&#8217;t Work and What to Do About It</a></em> by Michael E. Gerber</li><li>[9:53] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.inc.com/inc5000" target="_blank">Inc. 5000</a></em></li><li>[10:19] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.harvard.edu/" target="_blank">Harvard University</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://auburn.edu/" target="_blank">Auburn University</a></li><li>[10:36] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.tesla.com/" target="_blank">Tesla</a></li><li>[11:33] How do you think of your business like a child</li><li>[11:41] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.thebalancecareers.com/what-is-an-employee-1918111" target="_blank">Employees</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.nexusnegotiations.com/content/paid/negotiators-toolbox/yesable-propositions/" target="_blank">The Yesable Solution</a></li><li>[12:49] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://corporatefinanceinstitute.com/resources/knowledge/other/products-and-services/#:~:text=A%20product%20is%20a%20tangible,of%20one%20or%20more%20individuals.&amp;text=In%20fact%2C%20a%20majority%20of,For%20example%2C%20when%20a%20consumer" target="_blank">Product</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://rebatekey.com/" target="_blank">Rebate</a></li><li>[14:04] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.upwork.com/" target="_blank">Freelancers</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.upwork.com/hire/virtual-assistants/" target="_blank">Virtual Assistants</a> (VAs)</li><li>[14:16] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.amazon.com/Automatic-Customer-Creating-Subscription-Business/dp/159184746X" target="_blank">The Automatic Customer: Creating a Subscription Business in Any Industry</a></em> by John Warrillow</li><li>[14:26] Tyler Gillespie on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/tyler-gillespie/" target="_blank">Episode 148</a> of the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em></li><li>[14:41] Where did John&#8217;s interest in starting a subscription business come from</li><li>[15:05] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/difference-between-publicly-and-privately-held-companies/#:~:text=A%20public%20company%20is%20a,for%20expansion%20and%20other%20projects." target="_blank">Public Company</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/a/acquisition.asp" target="_blank">Acquisitions</a></li><li>[15:16] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/12/what-is-an-annuity.asp#:~:text=The%20goal%20of%20an%20annuity,specific%20needs%20of%20the%20buyer." target="_blank">Annuity Stream</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.rocketlawyer.com/business-and-contracts/service-contracts#:~:text=Service%20Contracts%20are%20agreements%20between,a%20contractor%20and%20a%20homeowner.&amp;text=Most%20often%2C%20Service%20Contracts%20include,as%20deadlines%20and%20payment%20agreements." target="_blank">Service Contract</a></li><li>[15:31] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.thesoftwarereport.com/the-top-100-software-companies-of-2020/" target="_blank">Software Company</a></li><li>[15:37] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.hbloom.com/" target="_blank">H.Bloom</a></li><li>[15:48] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.retaildive.com/" target="_blank">Retail</a></li><li>[15:55] Ba-doom chh!</li><li>[16:10] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.heirloomroses.com/" target="_blank">Roses</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.gardeningknowhow.com/ornamental/flowers/gerbera-daisy/growing-gerbera-daisies.htm" target="_blank">Gerbera Daisies</a></li><li>[16:38] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://admin.hbloom.com/Home/AboutUs" target="_blank">Sonu Panda &amp; Bryan Burkhart</a></li><li>[17:38] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/i/inventory.asp" target="_blank">Inventory</a></li><li>[17:48] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://learn.marsdd.com/article/revenue-models-product-pricing-and-commercializing-new-technology/#:~:text=Transactional%20revenue%20models%20are%20based,examples%20of%20transactional%2Drevenue%20products." target="_blank">Transaction Business Model vs. Recurring Business Model</a></li><li>[18:02] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.smartkarrot.com/resources/blog/consumer-vs-customer/" target="_blank">Customers</a>, Buying Trigger</li><li>[18:49] How do you get yourself to start thinking in terms of recurring revenue</li><li>[19:45] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://birthingofgiants.com/" target="_blank">Birthing of Giants</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://exec.mit.edu/s/" target="_blank">MIT Sloan Executive Education Center</a></li><li>[20:02] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://birthingofgiants.com/" target="_blank">Entrepreneurial Masters Program</a></li><li>[20:13] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.jackstackbbq.com/" target="_blank">Jack Stack</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.tablegroup.com/pat/" target="_blank">Pat Lencioni</a></li><li>[20:30] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://corporatefinanceinstitute.com/resources/knowledge/other/products-and-services/#:~:text=A%20product%20is%20a%20tangible,of%20one%20or%20more%20individuals.&amp;text=In%20fact%2C%20a%20majority%20of,For%20example%2C%20when%20a%20consumer" target="_blank">Service</a></li><li>[21:12] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.nba.com/" target="_blank">NBA</a> (National Basketball Association)</li><li>[21:14] <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.amazon.com/Art-Selling-Your-Business-Strategies/dp/1733478159" target="_blank">The Art of Selling Your Business: Winning Strategies &amp; Secret Hacks for Exiting on Top</a> </em>by John Warrillow</li><li>[22:12] What makes the difference between entrepreneurs that sell their business one day vs. those who don&#8217;t</li><li>[22:45] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sully_Sullenberger" target="_blank">Sully</a> aka Chesley Sullenberger</li><li>[23:13] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.cntraveler.com/story/the-miracle-on-the-hudson-flight-things-you-might-not-know" target="_blank">Hudson River</a></li><li>[23:22] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.clickfunnels.com/" target="_blank">ClickFunnels</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://squareup.com/us/en/townsquare/basic-labor-laws-how-to-hire-employees-correctly" target="_blank">Hiring Employees</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.sba.gov/starting-business/write-your-business-plan" target="_blank">Business Plan</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://hbr.org/2016/02/a-step-by-step-guide-to-firing-someone" target="_blank">Firing Employees</a></li><li>[23:52] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/the-inside-scoop-on-inside-baseball" target="_blank">Inside Baseball</a></li><li>[24:15] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">Podcaster</a></li><li>[24:24] What is the rocket fuel that propels those entrepreneurs who sell their business for more than expected</li><li>[24:45] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.divestopedia.com/definition/8382/competitive-tension#:~:text=Competitive%20tension%20refers%20to%20the,to%20acquire%20the%20same%20target." target="_blank">Competitive Tension</a></li><li>[24:52] LOL</li><li>[25:06] Arik Levy on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://builttosell.com/radio/episode-203/" target="_blank">Episode 203</a> of <em>Built to Sell Radio</em></li><li>[25:32] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.divestopedia.com/definition/6650/re-trading" target="_blank">Re-trading</a></li><li>[25:43] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/duediligence.asp" target="_blank">Due Diligence</a></li><li>[26:07] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/financing.asp" target="_blank">Financing</a></li><li>[26:20] <a href="https://www.luxerone.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Luxer One</a></li><li>[26:58] <a href="https://www.rockethomes.com/blog/home-buying/bidding-war#:~:text=What%20Is%20A%20Bidding%20War,hopes%20of%20winning%20the%20home." target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Bidding War</a></li><li>[27:23] Rocket Fuel vs. Jet Fuel</li></ul><ul><li>[27:28] Save time with your high-quality podcast. Email me at <a href="mailto:m&#97;&#120;&#64;&#109;&#97;x&#112;od&#99;a&#115;&#116;&#105;n&#103;.c&#111;m">m&#97;&#120;&#64;ma&#120;&#112;od&#99;&#97;&#115;&#116;&#105;&#110;&#103;&#46;c&#111;&#109;</a> to bring your podcast to life and use it as a business-building tool</li></ul></li></ul>



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<ul><li><strong>Wild Business Shoutout of the Week</strong><ul><li>[28:42] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://simplicable.com/new/creative-marketing#:~:text=Creative%20marketing%20is%20the%20process,products%20in%20an%20inspiring%20experience." target="_blank">Creative Marketing</a></li></ul><ul><li>[28:50] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.beastgear.co.uk/" target="_blank">Beast Gear</a>, Ben Leonard on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://builttosell.com/radio/episode-283/" target="_blank">Episode 283</a> of <em>Built to Sell Radio</em></li><li>[29:14] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/b/bootstrap.asp" target="_blank">Bootstrapped</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.ama.org/the-definition-of-marketing-what-is-marketing/#:~:text=Marketing%20is%20the%20activity%2C%20set,%2C%20and%20society%20at%20large.%20(" target="_blank">Marketing</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://adage.com/" target="_blank">Advertising</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://developers.google.com/search/docs/beginner/seo-starter-guide" target="_blank">SEO</a> (Search Engine Optimization)</li><li>[29:33] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://about.instagram.com/features/direct" target="_blank">DM</a> (Direct Message)</li><li>[30:04] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.smarter-companies.com/profiles/blogs/what-is-relationship-capital" target="_blank">Relationship Capital</a></li><li>[30:13] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=GQUXAMY73JFRVJHE#:~:text=Amazon%20calculates%20a%20product's%20star,the%20authenticity%20of%20the%20feedback." target="_blank">Amazon Ratings</a></li><li>[30:31] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.nike.com/" target="_blank">Nike</a></li><li>[30:55] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://hinative.com/en-US/questions/17473078#:~:text=what%20they%20should.-,An%20owner%20owns%20a%20business%2D%20it%20belongs%20to%20them.,others%20do%20what%20they%20should.&amp;text=Manager%20is%20someone%20who%20oversees%2Fsupervises%20others.,-%E5%BA%97%E9%95%B7%20(shop)%20or" target="_blank">Manager vs. Owner</a></li><li>[31:37] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/surprise-and-delight#:~:text=Surprise%20and%20delight%20is%20a,increasing%20profitability%20as%20a%20result." target="_blank">Surprise &amp; Delight</a> (S&amp;D)</li></ul></li></ul>



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<ul><li><strong>Rapid-Fire Q&amp;A</strong><ul><li>[31:51] What is a quirk John has</li><li>[32:01] Shoutout John&#8217;s wife!</li><li>[32:11] What is something about becoming a bestselling author that&#8217;s surprised John</li><li>[32:38] <a href="https://www.snowboarder.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Snowboarding</a>, <a href="https://www.imba.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Mountain Biking</a>, <a href="https://windsurf.star-board.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Windsurfing</a></li><li>[33:04] Connect with John at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://learn.builttosell.com/wild/?podcast=Wild%20Business%20Growth" target="_blank">BuiltToSell.com/Wild</a></li></ul><ul><li>[33:32] Follow the <em style="color: var(--color); font-family: var(--fontFamily); font-size: var(--fontSize); font-weight: var(--fontWeight); letter-spacing: var(--letterSpacing); text-transform: var(--textTransform);"><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">Wild Business Growth Podcast</a></em><span style="color: var(--color); font-family: var(--fontFamily); font-size: var(--fontSize); font-style: var(--fontStyle, inherit); font-weight: var(--fontWeight); letter-spacing: var(--letterSpacing); text-transform: var(--textTransform);"> and tell a friend about the podcast</span></li></ul><ul><li>[33:41] Check out the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast </em>on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.goodpods.com/" target="_blank">GoodPods</a>, where you can see what your favorite people are listening to</li><li>[33:43] Connect with me on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/maxbranstetter/" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/max-branstetter-74150a57/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a> at @MaxBranstetter</li><li>[33:46] Save time with your high-quality podcast. Email me at <a href="mailto:&#109;ax&#64;&#109;&#97;&#120;po&#100;&#99;&#97;s&#116;in&#103;.com">m&#97;&#120;&#64;m&#97;&#120;&#112;&#111;d&#99;&#97;st&#105;&#110;g&#46;c&#111;&#109;</a> to bring your podcast to life and use it as a business-building tool</li><li>Theme music: Freestyle Percussion Magik &#8211; Jungle Tribe &#8211; provided by Jamendo</li></ul></li></ul>



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<h2 id="podcast-summary"><strong>What is the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em>?</strong></h2>



<p>Wild ideas. Wild growth. Every Wednesday morning a new entrepreneur or innovator joins the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast</em> to share the crazy creative and unusual ways they grew their business, and provides tips for you to do it, too. Hear the woman who became the voice of Siri, the man who’s reinventing the sandcastle, how GaryVee’s partners are turning the wine world upside down, and more wild stories. Hosted by <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/about/" target="_blank">Max Branstetter</a> (that&#8217;s me), Founder and Podcast Producer at MaxPodcasting.</p>



<h2><strong>How do you start a podcast?</strong></h2>



<p>Interested in starting a professional-sounding podcast for your brand, but don&#8217;t want to deal with the time commitment? I’ve got you covered. Email me at <a href="mailto:m&#97;x&#64;&#109;&#97;&#120;p&#111;&#100;c&#97;s&#116;i&#110;&#103;&#46;&#99;o&#109;">m&#97;x&#64;&#109;&#97;x&#112;&#111;dc&#97;st&#105;n&#103;&#46;&#99;&#111;&#109;</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool.</p>



<p>Thanks for listening to John Warrillow on the <em>Wild Business Growth Podcast. </em>To hear more Wild stories like this one every Wednesday morning, follow the <em><a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">Wild Business Growth Podcast</a></em> and tell a friend about it. Until next time, Let your business Run Wild&#8230;and <em><strong>Bring on the Bongos!!</strong></em></p>
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