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		<title>Ben Lamm &#8211; Wild Business Growth Podcast #356: Woolly Mammoth De-Extinction, Colossal Biosciences</title>
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<p>Bringing back woolly mammoths. That&#8217;s the story of this week&#8217;s <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth</em></a>&nbsp;podcast guest, Ben Lamm. Ben is the Founder &amp; CEO of Colossal Biosciences. Listen to the episode on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wild-business-growth-podcast/id1422144338?mt=2" target="_blank">Apple Podcasts</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6mSUsqYobBljhKIuK9sKJV" target="_blank">Spotify</a>, and your other favorite <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">podcast platforms</a>, and watch on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPJ7ovuCpHVg7SJchnF2BZg" target="_blank">YouTube</a>.</p>



<ul><li><a href="#episode-summary">Episode Summary &amp; Player</a></li><li><a href="#full-transcript">Full Transcript</a></li><li><a href="#show-notes">Show Notes</a></li><li><a href="#podcast-summary"><em>Wild Business Growth </em>podcast Summary</a></li></ul>



<h2 id="episode-summary">Episode 356: Ben Lamm &#8211; Woolly Mammoth De-Extinction, Colossal Biosciences</h2>



<p>Ben Lamm, the Founder &amp; CEO of Colossal Biosciences, joins the show to share his journey from 5 successful exits to creating the company trying to de-extinct the woolly mammoth. Hear how to become a serial entrepreneur, the impact of bringing back woolly mammoths, whether the world is ready for de-extinction, mind-blowing aspects of genetics &amp; DNA, and the other species Ben wants to bring back.&nbsp;This episode covers everything from the dire wolf to artificial wombs. Here&#8217;s a small sample of what you will hear in this episode:</p>



<ul><li>What is mass extinction</li><li>How would woolly mammoths help the environment</li><li>What needs to happen to bring back the woolly mammoth</li><li>Big Hairy Audacious Goals</li><li>What would Ben&#8217;s college-aged Accounting-studying self think about present day Ben</li></ul>



<p>Connect with Ben at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://colossal.com/" target="_blank">Colossal.com</a>, on X <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://x.com/colossal" target="_blank">@Colossal</a>, and on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/benlamm/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a>.</p>



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<p>Enjoy the shoooooow! Check out the show notes below for much more detail. You can also find the full transcript <a href="https://maxpodcasting.com/ben-lamm-transcript/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">here</a>.</p>



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<h2 id="show-notes"><strong>Show Notes</strong></h2>



<ul><li><strong>Intro &amp; Serial Entrepreneurship</strong><ul><li>[0:28] Email me at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="mailto:m&#97;x&#64;&#104;&#105;p&#112;o&#100;&#105;r&#101;&#99;&#116;&#46;c&#111;&#109;" target="_blank">ma&#120;&#64;m&#97;&#120;&#112;od&#99;&#97;&#115;ting.&#99;&#111;&#109;</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool</li></ul><ul><li>[0:39] Connect with Ben at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://colossal.com/" target="_blank">Colossal.com</a>, on X <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://x.com/colossal" target="_blank">@Colossal</a>, and on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/benlamm/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a></li><li>[2:22] How do you have successful exits as an <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank">entrepreneur</a></li><li>[4:38] How do you become a <a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/tomchavez/2023/07/25/what-it-takes-to-be-a-successful-serial-entrepreneur/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">serial entrepreneur</a> </li></ul></li></ul>



<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-large is-resized"><img loading="lazy" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/SquadShot-Ben-Lamm-1024x538.png" alt="SquadShot Ben Lamm" class="wp-image-11496" width="689" height="362" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/SquadShot-Ben-Lamm-1024x538.png 1024w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/SquadShot-Ben-Lamm-400x210.png 400w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/SquadShot-Ben-Lamm-768x403.png 768w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/SquadShot-Ben-Lamm-500x263.png 500w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/SquadShot-Ben-Lamm-400x210@2x.png 800w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/SquadShot-Ben-Lamm.png 1200w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/SquadShot-Ben-Lamm-500x263@2x.png 1000w" sizes="(max-width: 689px) 100vw, 689px" /><figcaption>Ben &amp; friends</figcaption></figure></div>



<ul><li><strong>The Colossal Biosciences Story</strong><ul><li>[5:32] Betty Brennan – <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/betty-brennan/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth</em> podcast #116</a>: Museum Experience Mogul, Founder of <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://taylorstudios.com/" target="_blank">Taylor Studios</a></li><li>[6:26] What is <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://colossal.com/" target="_blank">Colossal Biosciences</a></li><li>[6:45] What is <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://colossal.com/de-extinction/" target="_blank">mass extinction</a></li><li>[9:35] How would <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://colossal.com/mammoth/" target="_blank">woolly mammoths</a> help the environment</li><li>[11:33] Is the world ready for <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://colossal.com/de-extinction/" target="_blank">de-extinction</a></li><li>[14:26] How does de-extinction work</li><li>[18:38] How similar is the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://colossal.com/direwolf/" target="_blank">dire wolf</a> to the gray wolf</li><li>[21:28] What needs to happen to bring back the woolly mammoth</li><li>[23:09] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://colossal.com/george-church/" target="_blank">George Church</a></li><li>[23:25] <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/b/big-hairy-audacious-goal-bhag.asp" target="_blank">Big Hairy Audacious Goals</a> (BHAG)</li><li>[23:38] The <em>Wild Business Growth</em> podcast is on YouTube! <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/@maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Subscribe @MaxBranstetter</a> to watch full video interviews with Wild entrepreneurs like Ben every Friday</li></ul><ul><li>[23:40] Sign up for the <em>Podcasting to the Max</em> newsletter at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/newsletter/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/Newsletter</a> and receive <em>How to Edit Your Podcast in Audacity</em>. It&#8217;s where podcasting meets entrepreneurship &#8211; and terrible puns</li><li>[23:41] Such an honor speaking at Podcast Movement &#8217;23 in Denver! Sign up to grab the slides from my session at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/PM23/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/PM23</a></li></ul></li></ul>



<div class="wp-block-image"><figure class="aligncenter size-large is-resized"><img loading="lazy" src="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/Dire-Wolf-1024x781.jpg" alt="Dire Wolf" class="wp-image-11498" width="609" height="464" srcset="https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/Dire-Wolf-1024x781.jpg 1024w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/Dire-Wolf-400x305.jpg 400w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/Dire-Wolf-768x586.jpg 768w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/Dire-Wolf-500x382.jpg 500w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/Dire-Wolf-400x305@2x.jpg 800w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/Dire-Wolf-1280x977.jpg 1280w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/Dire-Wolf-1920x1465.jpg 1920w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/Dire-Wolf-768x586@2x.jpg 1536w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/Dire-Wolf-1024x781@2x.jpg 2048w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/Dire-Wolf-500x382@2x.jpg 1000w, https://maxpodcasting.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/Dire-Wolf-800x610@2x.jpg 1600w" sizes="(max-width: 609px) 100vw, 609px" /><figcaption>The Dire Wolf</figcaption></figure></div>



<ul><li><strong>Rapid-Fire Q&amp;A</strong><ul><li>[23:48] What&#8217;s something surprising about <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://colossal.com/de-extinction/" target="_blank">genetics</a> &amp; DNA</li><li>[24:52] What other animals does Ben want to <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://colossal.com/species/" target="_blank">de-extinct</a></li><li>[25:31] What would his college-aged <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://admissions.web.baylor.edu/degrees/accounting" target="_blank">Accounting</a>-studying self think about present day Ben</li><li>[26:07] Connect with Ben at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://colossal.com/" target="_blank">Colossal.com</a>, on X <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://x.com/colossal" target="_blank">@Colossal</a>, and on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/benlamm/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a></li></ul><ul><li>[26:25] What are Ben&#8217;s Final Thoughts</li></ul><ul><li>[27:10] Follow the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth</em></a> podcast and tell a friend about the podcast. And show love (or roast me) by leaving 5 stars on Apple Podcasts and/or Spotify</li></ul><ul><li>[27:17] The <em>Wild Business Growth</em> podcast is on YouTube! <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.youtube.com/@maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Subscribe @MaxBranstetter</a> to watch full video interviews with Wild entrepreneurs like Ben</li></ul><ul><li>[27:26] Check out the <em>Wild Business Growth</em> podcast<em> </em>on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.goodpods.com/" target="_blank">Goodpods</a>, where you can see what your favorite people are listening to</li><li>[27:27] Connect with me on <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/max-branstetter-74150a57/" target="_blank">LinkedIn</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.instagram.com/maxbranstetter/" target="_blank">Instagram</a>, <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Twitter</a> (aka <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://twitter.com/maxbranstetter" target="_blank">X</a>), and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.threads.net/@maxbranstetter" target="_blank">Threads</a> @MaxBranstetter and <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.tiktok.com/@wildbusinessgrowth" target="_blank">TikTok</a> @WildBusinessGrowth</li></ul><ul><li>[27:28] Save time with your high-quality podcast. Email me at <a href="mailto:&#109;a&#120;&#64;m&#97;&#120;po&#100;cast&#105;&#110;g.&#99;&#111;&#109;">max&#64;&#109;ax&#112;&#111;d&#99;&#97;s&#116;in&#103;.c&#111;m</a> to bring your podcast to life and use it as a business-building tool</li><li>[27:29] Sign up for the <em>Podcasting to the Max</em> newsletter at <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/newsletter/" target="_blank">MaxPodcasting.com/Newsletter</a> and receive <em>How to Edit Your Podcast in Audacity</em>. It&#8217;s where podcasting meets entrepreneurship &#8211; and terrible puns</li><li>Theme music: Freestyle Percussion Magik &#8211; &#8220;Jungle Tribe&#8221; &#8211; provided by Jamendo</li></ul></li></ul>



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<h2 id="podcast-summary"><strong>What is the <em>Wild Business Growth</em> podcast?</strong></h2>



<p>Wild ideas. Wild growth. Every Wednesday morning a new entrepreneur joins the <em>Wild Business Growth </em>podcast to share the wildly creative and unusual ways they grew their business &#8211; and teaches you how to do it, too. Hear the minds behind WordPress, Stacy&#8217;s Pita Chips, Drybar, NFL RedZone, Big Mouth Billy Bass, the voice of Bart Simpson, and more Wild stories. Hosted by <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/about/" target="_blank">Max Branstetter</a> (that&#8217;s me), Founder and Podcast Producer at MaxPodcasting.</p>



<h2><strong>How do you start a podcast?</strong></h2>



<p>Interested in starting a professional-sounding and professional-looking podcast for your brand, but don&#8217;t want to deal with the time commitment of all those behind-the-scenes details? I’ve got you covered. Email me at <a href="mailto:m&#97;&#120;&#64;&#109;&#97;&#120;&#112;&#111;&#100;&#99;a&#115;&#116;&#105;&#110;g.&#99;&#111;&#109;">&#109;a&#120;&#64;&#109;axpod&#99;&#97;st&#105;&#110;g&#46;&#99;&#111;m</a> to save time with your high-quality podcast and use it as a business-building tool.</p>



<p>Thanks for listening to Ben Lamm on the <em>Wild Business Growth</em> podcast.<em> </em>To hear more Wild stories like this one every Wednesday morning, follow the <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://maxpodcasting.com/wild-business-growth-podcast/" target="_blank"><em>Wild Business Growth</em></a> podcast and tell a friend about it. And talk about your favorite Late Pleistocene species with them. Until next time, Let your business Run Wild&#8230;and <strong><em>Bring on the Bongos!!</em></strong></p>
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